Getting up-to-date w/ RunRev 1.1.1 and Mac OS X Panther
First, let me thank Heather for being kind enough to get me squared away on my not having licensed the copy of 1.1.1 I got on the MacWorld ``Total Panther'' DVD from almost two years ago. I've managed to code up a basic little app (a numeric version of a graphic design ``proportion wheel''), but have somewhat stumbled when it came time to build it to distribute it. Building the Windows version (I also bought a copy of PC Pro UK way back when which also had 1.1.1 for Windows ;) went fine. Build options for the Mac version are kind of limited though, and while the built app works okay in Mac OS X 10.2 ``Jaguar'' in 10.3 ``Panther'' it opens up in Classic mode --- is there a fix or work-around for this? (Which doesn't involve shelling out hundreds of dollars for an updated version---hard to justify that when I should arguably be learning Objective-C and using Apple's free developer tools instead---by the way, what happened to the ``Free Edition''? Is there a copy of it archived somewhere for download?) William ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting up-to-date w/ RunRev 1.1.1 and Mac OS X Panther
Building the Windows version (I also bought a copy of PC Pro UK way back when which also had 1.1.1 for Windows ;) went fine. Build options for the Mac version are kind of limited though, and while the built app works okay in Mac OS X 10.2 ``Jaguar'' in 10.3 ``Panther'' it opens up in Classic mode --- is there a fix or work-around for this? (Which doesn't involve shelling out hundreds of dollars for an updated version---hard to justify that when I should arguably be learning Objective-C and using Apple's free developer tools instead---by the way, what happened to the ``Free Edition''? Is there a copy of it archived somewhere for download?) Trying to remember back to 1.1.1 :-) Check the Get Info window for the built app. It may have the "Open in the Classic environment" checkbox ticked. Rev 1.1. did not build true OS X bundles, but made Carbon apps that can run in both environments, so this setting needs to be checked. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting up-to-date w/ RunRev 1.1.1 and Mac OS X Panther
In a message dated 1/26/05 11:15:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Trying to remember back to 1.1.1 :-) > Check the Get Info window for the built app. It may have the "Open in > the Classic environment" checkbox ticked. > Unfortunately, it doesn't have such a checkbox (I've built two apps to check). I _can_ find that in other apps, e.g., FreeHand 10. > Rev 1.1. did not build true OS X bundles, but made Carbon apps that can > run in both environments, so this setting needs to be checked. > Unfortunately, the apps when built are listed as ``Classic Application''s. The Build Distribution window offers options for: Mac OS fat Mac OS 68k Mac OS PPC Mac OS X It's that last I've been using. I've tried all and they are listed as ``Classic Application'' (not Carbon) and none of the resulting apps have the ``open in Classic'' checkbox. It does offer an option to set the Creator Signature in the Mac OS tab (defaults to RApp. and another to allow dynamic memory management. Would it be possible to delete the build engine for Mac OS X and re-download it to update it? Or maybe just download? The only engines listed (in Revolution 1.1.1/components/engines) are: MacOS68k MacOSFAT MacOSPPC Shouldn't there be a MacOSX one? Could that be the problem? William ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting up-to-date w/ RunRev 1.1.1 and Mac OS X Panther
On 1/28/05 3:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/26/05 11:15:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Trying to remember back to 1.1.1 :-) Check the Get Info window for the built app. It may have the "Open in the Classic environment" checkbox ticked. Unfortunately, it doesn't have such a checkbox (I've built two apps to check). I _can_ find that in other apps, e.g., FreeHand 10. Rev 1.1. did not build true OS X bundles, but made Carbon apps that can run in both environments, so this setting needs to be checked. Unfortunately, the apps when built are listed as ``Classic Application''s. Get Info on the Rev app itself and see if it calls itself a Classic application. It sounds to me like you are running the Classic version. Looking at the copies I have here, Rev 1.1.1 for Mac was released as two separate downloads -- one was Classic and the other was OS X. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting up-to-date w/ RunRev 1.1.1 and Mac OS X Panther
In a message dated 1/28/05 9:33:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Get Info on the Rev app itself and see if it calls itself a Classic > application. It sounds to me like you are running the Classic version. > Looking at the copies I have here, Rev 1.1.1 for Mac was released as two > separate downloads -- one was Classic and the other was OS X. > Name: Revolution Kind: Application Size: 2 MB on disk (2,123,920 bytes) Created: Friday, December 7, 2001 4:17 PM Modified: Monday, April 1, 2002 4:31 PM Version: 1.1.1, Copyright (c) 2000-2002 Runtime Revolution Ltd. Revolution 1.1.1 itself runs native in Mac OS X in both Jaguar and Panther on my wife's PowerBook, and the built apps run native in Jaguar, but not in Panther --- just trying to find a work-around for that last so I can distribute things for people who are current in their OS X upgrades. William ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting up-to-date w/ RunRev 1.1.1 and Mac OS X Panther
This was a problem with 1.1.1 that was never fixed. It IS a native app (CARBON vs. Cocoa) but is misidentified as a classic app. Panther seems to be more strict at taking the application at its word. There was some discussion about this before and someone gave the fix which correctly identifies the application but I don't remember what it was. Obviously this is corrected on more recent versions of Revolution. Bill Vlahos On Jan 28, 2005, at 7:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/28/05 9:33:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Get Info on the Rev app itself and see if it calls itself a Classic application. It sounds to me like you are running the Classic version. Looking at the copies I have here, Rev 1.1.1 for Mac was released as two separate downloads -- one was Classic and the other was OS X. Name: Revolution Kind: Application Size: 2 MB on disk (2,123,920 bytes) Created: Friday, December 7, 2001 4:17 PM Modified: Monday, April 1, 2002 4:31 PM Version: 1.1.1, Copyright (c) 2000-2002 Runtime Revolution Ltd. Revolution 1.1.1 itself runs native in Mac OS X in both Jaguar and Panther on my wife's PowerBook, and the built apps run native in Jaguar, but not in Panther --- just trying to find a work-around for that last so I can distribute things for people who are current in their OS X upgrades. William ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting up-to-date w/ RunRev 1.1.1 and Mac OS X Panther
In a message dated 05-1-29 12:57:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > This was a problem with 1.1.1 that was never fixed. It IS a native app > (CARBON vs. Cocoa) but is misidentified as a classic app. Panther seems > to be more strict at taking the application at its word. There was some > discussion about this before and someone gave the fix which correctly > identifies the application but I don't remember what it was. > > Obviously this is corrected on more recent versions of Revolution. > > Thanks! Don't know how I didn't find this before. Re: Rev 1.1 apps launching Classic on OS X 10.3 Ian Wood Mon, 08 Dec 2003 06:16:46 -0800 With a bit of work (otherwise known as cheating), I've got Rev 1.1.1 standalones to work in Panther. I opened up an existing OS X app package, replaced the icon and app files with mine, then manually edited the Info.plist and InfoPlist.strings to point towards the correct new filenames. A bit of a long-winded process but it works. If other people would find it useful I can put up a zipped copy of the .app with basic instructions on what to change in the files. So I'll look into doing that myself. Thanks! William ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution