Getting up-to-date w/ RunRev 1.1.1 and Mac OS X Panther

2005-01-26 Thread WillAdams
First, let me thank Heather for being kind enough to get me squared away on 
my not having licensed the copy of 1.1.1 I got on the MacWorld ``Total 
Panther'' DVD from almost two years ago.

I've managed to code up a basic little app (a numeric version of a graphic 
design ``proportion wheel''), but have somewhat stumbled when it came time to 
build it to distribute it.

Building the Windows version (I also bought a copy of PC Pro UK way back when 
which also had 1.1.1 for Windows ;) went fine. Build options for the Mac 
version are kind of limited though, and while the built app works okay in Mac 
OS X 
10.2 ``Jaguar'' in 10.3 ``Panther'' it opens up in Classic mode --- is there 
a fix or work-around for this? (Which doesn't involve shelling out hundreds of 
dollars for an updated version---hard to justify that when I should arguably 
be learning Objective-C and using Apple's free developer tools instead---by 
the way, what happened to the ``Free Edition''? Is there a copy of it archived 
somewhere for download?)

William
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Re: Getting up-to-date w/ RunRev 1.1.1 and Mac OS X Panther

2005-01-26 Thread Sarah Reichelt
Building the Windows version (I also bought a copy of PC Pro UK way 
back when
which also had 1.1.1 for Windows ;) went fine. Build options for the 
Mac
version are kind of limited though, and while the built app works okay 
in Mac OS X
10.2 ``Jaguar'' in 10.3 ``Panther'' it opens up in Classic mode --- is 
there
a fix or work-around for this? (Which doesn't involve shelling out 
hundreds of
dollars for an updated version---hard to justify that when I should 
arguably
be learning Objective-C and using Apple's free developer tools 
instead---by
the way, what happened to the ``Free Edition''? Is there a copy of it 
archived
somewhere for download?)
Trying to remember back to 1.1.1 :-)
Check the Get Info window for the built app. It may have the "Open in 
the Classic environment" checkbox ticked.
Rev 1.1. did not build true OS X bundles, but made Carbon apps that can 
run in both environments, so this setting needs to be checked.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: Getting up-to-date w/ RunRev 1.1.1 and Mac OS X Panther

2005-01-28 Thread WillAdams

In a message dated 1/26/05 11:15:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> Trying to remember back to 1.1.1 :-)
> Check the Get Info window for the built app. It may have the "Open in
> the Classic environment" checkbox ticked.
> 
Unfortunately, it doesn't have such a checkbox (I've built two apps to 
check). I _can_ find that in other apps, e.g., FreeHand 10.

> Rev 1.1. did not build true OS X bundles, but made Carbon apps that can
> run in both environments, so this setting needs to be checked.
> 
Unfortunately, the apps when built are listed as ``Classic Application''s.

The Build Distribution window offers options for:

Mac OS fat
Mac OS 68k
Mac OS PPC
Mac OS X

It's that last I've been using. I've tried all and they are listed as 
``Classic Application'' (not Carbon) and none of the resulting apps have the 
``open 
in Classic'' checkbox.

It does offer an option to set the Creator Signature in the Mac OS tab 
(defaults to RApp.

and another to allow dynamic memory management.

Would it be possible to delete the build engine for Mac OS X and re-download 
it to update it?

Or maybe just download?

The only engines listed (in Revolution 1.1.1/components/engines) are:
MacOS68k
MacOSFAT
MacOSPPC

Shouldn't there be a MacOSX one? Could that be the problem?

William

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Re: Getting up-to-date w/ RunRev 1.1.1 and Mac OS X Panther

2005-01-28 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/28/05 3:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/26/05 11:15:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Trying to remember back to 1.1.1 :-)
Check the Get Info window for the built app. It may have the "Open in
the Classic environment" checkbox ticked.
Unfortunately, it doesn't have such a checkbox (I've built two apps to 
check). I _can_ find that in other apps, e.g., FreeHand 10.


Rev 1.1. did not build true OS X bundles, but made Carbon apps that can
run in both environments, so this setting needs to be checked.
Unfortunately, the apps when built are listed as ``Classic Application''s.
Get Info on the Rev app itself and see if it calls itself a Classic 
application. It sounds to me like you are running the Classic version. 
Looking at the copies I have here, Rev 1.1.1 for Mac was released as two 
separate downloads -- one was Classic and the other was OS X.

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Re: Getting up-to-date w/ RunRev 1.1.1 and Mac OS X Panther

2005-01-28 Thread WillAdams
In a message dated 1/28/05 9:33:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Get Info on the Rev app itself and see if it calls itself a Classic
> application. It sounds to me like you are running the Classic version.
> Looking at the copies I have here, Rev 1.1.1 for Mac was released as two
> separate downloads -- one was Classic and the other was OS X.
> 

Name: Revolution
Kind: Application
Size: 2 MB on disk
(2,123,920 bytes)
Created: Friday, December 7, 2001 4:17 PM
Modified: Monday, April 1, 2002 4:31 PM
Version: 1.1.1, Copyright (c) 2000-2002 Runtime Revolution Ltd.

Revolution 1.1.1 itself runs native in Mac OS X in both Jaguar and Panther on 
my wife's PowerBook, and the built apps run native in Jaguar, but not in 
Panther --- just trying to find a work-around for that last so I can distribute 
things for people who are current in their OS X upgrades.

William
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Re: Getting up-to-date w/ RunRev 1.1.1 and Mac OS X Panther

2005-01-28 Thread Bill Vlahos
This was a problem with 1.1.1 that was never fixed. It IS a native app 
(CARBON vs. Cocoa) but is misidentified as a classic app. Panther seems 
to be more strict at taking the application at its word. There was some 
discussion about this before and someone gave the fix which correctly 
identifies the application but I don't remember what it was.

Obviously this is corrected on more recent versions of Revolution.
Bill Vlahos
On Jan 28, 2005, at 7:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/28/05 9:33:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Get Info on the Rev app itself and see if it calls itself a Classic
application. It sounds to me like you are running the Classic version.
Looking at the copies I have here, Rev 1.1.1 for Mac was released as 
two
separate downloads -- one was Classic and the other was OS X.

Name: Revolution
Kind: Application
Size: 2 MB on disk
(2,123,920 bytes)
Created: Friday, December 7, 2001 4:17 PM
Modified: Monday, April 1, 2002 4:31 PM
Version: 1.1.1, Copyright (c) 2000-2002 Runtime Revolution Ltd.
Revolution 1.1.1 itself runs native in Mac OS X in both Jaguar and 
Panther on
my wife's PowerBook, and the built apps run native in Jaguar, but not 
in
Panther --- just trying to find a work-around for that last so I can 
distribute
things for people who are current in their OS X upgrades.

William
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Re: Getting up-to-date w/ RunRev 1.1.1 and Mac OS X Panther

2005-01-29 Thread WillAdams

In a message dated 05-1-29 12:57:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> This was a problem with 1.1.1 that was never fixed. It IS a native app
> (CARBON vs. Cocoa) but is misidentified as a classic app. Panther seems
> to be more strict at taking the application at its word. There was some
> discussion about this before and someone gave the fix which correctly
> identifies the application but I don't remember what it was.
> 
> Obviously this is corrected on more recent versions of Revolution.
> 
> 

Thanks! Don't know how I didn't find this before.

Re: Rev 1.1 apps launching Classic on OS X 10.3
Ian Wood
Mon, 08 Dec 2003 06:16:46 -0800

With a bit of work (otherwise known as cheating), I've got Rev 1.1.1 
standalones to work in Panther.

I opened up an existing OS X app package, replaced the icon and app files 
with mine, then manually edited the Info.plist and InfoPlist.strings to point 
towards the correct new filenames.

A bit of a long-winded process but it works. If other people would find it 
useful I can put up a zipped copy of the .app with basic instructions on what 
to 
change in the files.



So I'll look into doing that myself.

Thanks!

William
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