I'm having a group problem
I'm sorry to keep coming back with what must seem like stupid questions. This one has me really confused. I've created a group that contains summary information in a small band that goes on each card. I have set the behavior to background. There is a field filled in on the first card (where I created the group in the first place). When I created a second card, the group does get added to the card but when I switch between the two cards, the summary data on each card (which is part of the group) is different! I thought the group (when set to act like a background) would not only carry the design of the group but the contents of the fields too. Is this not correct? Len Morgan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I'm having a group problem
Len, I'm pretty sure that you need to check the shared property of the field for its contents to appear on all cards. Joe Wilkins On Mar 22, 2007, at 9:32 AM, Len Morgan wrote: I'm sorry to keep coming back with what must seem like stupid questions. This one has me really confused. I've created a group that contains summary information in a small band that goes on each card. I have set the behavior to background. There is a field filled in on the first card (where I created the group in the first place). When I created a second card, the group does get added to the card but when I switch between the two cards, the summary data on each card (which is part of the group) is different! I thought the group (when set to act like a background) would not only carry the design of the group but the contents of the fields too. Is this not correct? Len Morgan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I'm having a group problem
Hi Len, I'm sorry to keep coming back with what must seem like stupid questions. This one has me really confused. I've created a group that contains summary information in a small band that goes on each card. I have set the behavior to background. There is a field filled in on the first card (where I created the group in the first place). When I created a second card, the group does get added to the card but when I switch between the two cards, the summary data on each card (which is part of the group) is different! I thought the group (when set to act like a background) would not only carry the design of the group but the contents of the fields too. Is this not correct? Make sure that the sharedtext property of these fileds is checked! Grouped fields can have different content on different cards if there sharedtext prop is NOT checked, which is the default for most fields! Same applies to buttons (checkboxes and radiobuttons), see the sharedhilite property. Len Morgan Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: I'm having a group problem
On 3/22/07 9:32 AM, Len Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry to keep coming back with what must seem like stupid questions. This one has me really confused. I've created a group that contains summary information in a small band that goes on each card. I have set the behavior to background. There is a field filled in on the first card (where I created the group in the first place). When I created a second card, the group does get added to the card but when I switch between the two cards, the summary data on each card (which is part of the group) is different! I thought the group (when set to act like a background) would not only carry the design of the group but the contents of the fields too. Is this not correct? Fields are like records in a database. Fields on a card usually contains different information. Setting the 'shared text ' for a field will mean that the same text will show in all instances of the field, whether on a card, or in a group on a card. I think that the text that will be shared is the current instance of the field when set to true. This means that if you forget to set to true, add text to several cards, then set to true, the current card value is used on all cards. Setting to false again, will show the individual values again. I don't have much experience with this. Label fields have the shared set to true. Be careful of setting the shared to true, then false, then later back to true, you might lose data. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Group Problem
Hi Everyone, I'm using Mac OSX. I cut a group of fields and buttons from one stack and pasted it into another. However, I want that group in the new stack to appear on all existing and new cards. That's not happening. What did I do wrong? I checked off Act like background but that didn't do it. Joe Orlando, FL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Group Problem
On Nov 4, 2006, at 12:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cut a group of fields and buttons from one stack and pasted it into another. However, I want that group in the new stack to appear on all existing and new cards. That's not happening. What did I do wrong? I checked off Act like background but that didn't do it. The Act like background does not place (--jargon) the group on all cards. It puts the group behind the card in the message path for most messages and it places itself on new cards created when it is on the current card. More than one group on a card can have backgroundBehavior set. See backgroundBehavior in the dictionary. See section 4.2.25 in the User Guide for a practical view of the term background. If there are aspects to being a background that you don't want, then the group can be pasted to each card. Maybe it would be handy to have an option in the Object menu to place a group on all cards. Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Group Problem
I posted this 5 days ago: Create your button on the first card of your stack, select it, choose Group Selected from the Object menu and run the following script: put the short id of the last grp into myID -- following line shows grp if new cards -- are created afterwards set the bgBehavior of the last grp to true repeat with x = 2 to number of cards place bg id myID onto cd x end repeat Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 4-nov-2006, om 20:35 heeft [EMAIL PROTECTED] het volgende geschreven: Hi Everyone, I'm using Mac OSX. I cut a group of fields and buttons from one stack and pasted it into another. However, I want that group in the new stack to appear on all existing and new cards. That's not happening. What did I do wrong? I checked off Act like background but that didn't do it. Joe Orlando, FL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Edit Group problem
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:38:44 -0500, Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First of all, I would avoid editing the group and just address items in the group directly if you can. For example, if you do: delete image face.gif of grp TheGroup you don't need to be in editing mode to do it; you can be just on the card with the browse tool when the command executes and it will work. However, to get new images *into* a group from the clipboard, there's not much more you can do that what you're already doing unless you know the dimensions of the image (width and height) ahead of time. Ken, thanks for this info. I didn't realise you could edit the individual objects of a group without putting the group into edit mode - if this is in the docs, I ain't seen it. As to your second point, what do you mean by the last sentence - what if I **did** know the dimensions of the image? I'm sorry but I don't quite grasp your meaning here. The fact is I have a lot of little images I want to do this to, and for other reasons I was thinking of making them all the same size - so this technique might be relevant to me. TIA Graham -- --- Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK France ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Edit Group problem
Hi Graham, On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:38:44 -0500, Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First of all, I would avoid editing the group and just address items in the group directly if you can. For example, if you do: delete image face.gif of grp TheGroup you don't need to be in editing mode to do it; you can be just on the card with the browse tool when the command executes and it will work. However, to get new images *into* a group from the clipboard, there's not much more you can do that what you're already doing unless you know the dimensions of the image (width and height) ahead of time. Ken, thanks for this info. I didn't realise you could edit the individual objects of a group without putting the group into edit mode - if this is in the docs, I ain't seen it. As to your second point, what do you mean by the last sentence - what if I **did** know the dimensions of the image? I'm sorry but I don't quite grasp your meaning here. The fact is I have a lot of little images I want to do this to, and for other reasons I was thinking of making them all the same size - so this technique might be relevant to me. Even if the images (not referenced!) are not of the same size, you can always do: ... put image face.gif into img placeholder image of grp TheGroup ... placeholder image will resize to fit the new content... Check it out, very handy feature, no problems so far... (And a bit less complicated than using imagedata ;-) Hope that helps... TIA Graham Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Edit Group problem
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 11:40:16 +0200, Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even if the images (not referenced!) are not of the same size, you can always do: ... put image face.gif into img placeholder image of grp TheGroup ... placeholder image will resize to fit the new content... Check it out, very handy feature, no problems so far... Fantastic! Does just what I want. AND I found that I can get rid of the image while keeping the placeholder mechanism by put empty into img placeholder image of grp TheGroup so now I can add and delete stuff painlessly. Thanks a lot - not sure if I would ever have found this in the docs... Graham -- --- Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK France ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Edit Group problem
I'm experimenting to see how easy it is to add items to a group temporarily (to facilitate moving the items round the screen together, either by script of by the user dragging them and the group reacting to a 'grab' command) and later removing the items again. I've succeeded in adding an image to the group by : on mouseUp copy image face.gif start editing grp TheGroup paste set the bottom of image face.gif to the bottom of grc Graphic 2 -- the above line refers to objects inside the group stop editing background TheGroup end mouseUp However, when I want to get rid of the new item from the group, this script (in another button) doesn't work. on mouseUp start editing grp TheGroup delete image face.gif of grp TheGroup stop editing background TheGroup paste end mouseUp Not only does the image not get deleted, but the whole display seems to stay in 'group edit' mode until I switch from browse to select mode and back in the IDE's tool palette. I tried just doing delete image face.gif even though I could see this might have picked up the wrong copy of the image, but anyway it didn't work either. It all works perfectly well in the IDE, using the tools provided and selecting the image via the mouse. Can't see what I'm doing wrong. TIA Graham BTW I find it kind of odd that I have to use the word 'background' in the 'stop editing'but not elsewhere (it's in the TD). -- --- Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK France ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Edit Group problem
Graham, First of all, I would avoid editing the group and just address items in the group directly if you can. For example, if you do: delete image face.gif of grp TheGroup you don't need to be in editing mode to do it; you can be just on the card with the browse tool when the command executes and it will work. However, to get new images *into* a group from the clipboard, there's not much more you can do that what you're already doing unless you know the dimensions of the image (width and height) ahead of time. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Samuel Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 1:38 PM To: Revolution user discussion Subject: Edit Group problem I'm experimenting to see how easy it is to add items to a group temporarily (to facilitate moving the items round the screen together, either by script of by the user dragging them and the group reacting to a 'grab' command) and later removing the items again. I've succeeded in adding an image to the group by : on mouseUp copy image face.gif start editing grp TheGroup paste set the bottom of image face.gif to the bottom of grc Graphic 2 -- the above line refers to objects inside the group stop editing background TheGroup end mouseUp However, when I want to get rid of the new item from the group, this script (in another button) doesn't work. on mouseUp start editing grp TheGroup delete image face.gif of grp TheGroup stop editing background TheGroup paste end mouseUp Not only does the image not get deleted, but the whole display seems to stay in 'group edit' mode until I switch from browse to select mode and back in the IDE's tool palette. I tried just doing delete image face.gif even though I could see this might have picked up the wrong copy of the image, but anyway it didn't work either. It all works perfectly well in the IDE, using the tools provided and selecting the image via the mouse. Can't see what I'm doing wrong. TIA Graham BTW I find it kind of odd that I have to use the word 'background' in the 'stop editing'but not elsewhere (it's in the TD). -- --- Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK France ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use- revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
