Re: OT: Morfik is now free
On 11/12/2010 08:38 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: All- Morfik 3 has just been released, the licensing restrictions are gone, and it's now free. http://www.morfik.com/ Jolly good: although when one goes to the Morfik website it does not tell one which operating systems Morfik functions on; typically arrogant Windows-centric viewpoint!!! It also doesn't seem to indicate which OSes it builds for. Won't function under WINE 1.3.6 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Morfik is now free
It's for making WEB apps (sites really) not desktop... On 12 November 2010 03:26, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/12/2010 08:38 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: All- Morfik 3 has just been released, the licensing restrictions are gone, and it's now free. http://www.morfik.com/ Jolly good: although when one goes to the Morfik website it does not tell one which operating systems Morfik functions on; typically arrogant Windows-centric viewpoint!!! It also doesn't seem to indicate which OSes it builds for. Won't function under WINE 1.3.6 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: Morfik is now free
All- Morfik 3 has just been released, the licensing restrictions are gone, and it's now free. http://www.morfik.com/ -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Morfik
Chipp, My apologies - I was a bit grumpier than necessary. With that said, I thought the thread was about standards compliance. I know exactly what you're talking about with WebKit, but Apple's developer API for embedding doesn't have much to do with the original issues, which was Morfik / Safari compatibility. Embedding and compliance are two totally different things. IE was designed to be embedded in everything, in fact that's a big part of Microsoft's legal troubles =)... I have no doubt Safari has been a pain in the you-know-what for altBrowser! Brian, Not necessary to get all worked up. I was just responding to Stephen's comment about not working with Safari. And yes, here at Altuit we do have LOTS OF EXPERIENCE WITH SAFARI and Macs. In fact, too much. Turns out every darn dot release, Apple changes WebKit another bit and throws poor Chris back into 'fix' mode. Whereas our IE version of altBrowser hardly ever needed updating. So, I guess you can say my particular view of Safari isn't all that great. -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Morfik
Mikey- Thursday, November 30, 2006, 1:04:13 PM, you wrote: Mark, You'll second what - my comment or the one I'm responding to (oh crap - am I wrong again?) g Er... I was agreeing with your comment. Morfik's quite an impressive tool. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Morfik
Its not working with Safari at all and the $5000 price tag was all I had to see this wasn't for me. Also, as expected, the standalones are pc-only. In this day and age it's silly for a company to pretend the mac user base doesn't exist.. I mean their product should at least create SITES that Safari can render! BTW, Talking with Chris today, he mentioned he checked a Morfik a bit, and wants to look at it further. He compared it to a web-based version of FileMaker or Access. He said it creates standalone .exe's and ALSO uploads files to existing web servers as well. He thought it was pretty interesting and he's not very easily impressed. I imagine he'll take the free version for a spin and I'll hear more about it. -Chipp -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Morfik
Or... putting it another way... You'd think in this day and age, Apple would make Safari a compliant browser, especially since Mozilla Firefox is open source, works on Macs and complies to the latest standards (perhaps it may even be considered the standard at this point). Guess it depends upon one's viewpoint. ;-) On 12/1/06, Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In this day and age it's silly for a company to pretend the mac user base doesn't exist.. I mean their product should at least create SITES that Safari can render! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Morfik
You'd think in this day and age, Apple would make Safari a compliant browser, especially since Mozilla Firefox is open source, works on Macs and complies to the latest standards (perhaps it may even be considered the standard at this point). Hey, Chipp, I don't know why Morfik doesn't work on Safari. They (Morfik) says it's a bug, but I don't know enough about it to comment one way or the other. Granted Safari is in a teeny-ish minority (I believe somewhere around 10% at last count, if I recall correctly), and Opera, FF, and IE (and I believe that BumperCar, Camino and iCab do, too, although I think BumperCar and Camino are both based on FF's codebase) all seem to work, but I guess without knowing why there is a problem I don't know if we can say one way or another that it's Apple's fault. You would think they would go out of their way to behave in a similar way to the others, but I'm not sure why they don't. There may be a really good design reason. Regardless, Morfik claims they're going to fix the Safari issue shortly. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Morfik
What's with the Apple bashing, really? Mozilla is NOT the standard, the standard is the standard. Konqueror (on which Safari is based) is open source also, and no less compliant. Opera is probably the most compliant browser out there, and Safari was the first to pass the Acid2 test. There are no compliant browsers, period. Opera, FireFox and Safari all have high levels of compatibility but they aren't all the same. As a result, it still matters what browsers you test against. About the only certain thing is that you'll spend at least half of your time dealing with IE if you hope to be browser independent. Compliancy definitely has a lot of gray area because it's hideously complex to achieve, but saying that you'd expect Apple to produce something that nobody else has sounds like sour grapes. Even though it's a tired subject, it's also pretty hard to ignore the impact of IE pretty much destroying the efficiency of web developers seeking browser independence. Or... putting it another way... You'd think in this day and age, Apple would make Safari a compliant browser, especially since Mozilla Firefox is open source, works on Macs and complies to the latest standards (perhaps it may even be considered the standard at this point). Guess it depends upon one's viewpoint. ;-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Morfik
Brian, JavascriptCore and DOM support in general are slow and unreliable. Its gotten better in the last 10 months but Apples Javascript implementation is still not up to snuff when compared to Firefox or even IE. This is clearly evident on the webkit list and amongst a myriad of AJAX toolkits that support Firefox and IE out of the shoot and don't add safari support till months later. ACID2 compliance is certainly a measure of achievement but its definetely not the only yard stick worth looking at when we're discussing AJAX application performance. -- cb On 12/1/06, Brian Yennie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's with the Apple bashing, really? Mozilla is NOT the standard, the standard is the standard. Konqueror (on which Safari is based) is open source also, and no less compliant. Opera is probably the most compliant browser out there, and Safari was the first to pass the Acid2 test. There are no compliant browsers, period. Opera, FireFox and Safari all have high levels of compatibility but they aren't all the same. As a result, it still matters what browsers you test against. About the only certain thing is that you'll spend at least half of your time dealing with IE if you hope to be browser independent. Compliancy definitely has a lot of gray area because it's hideously complex to achieve, but saying that you'd expect Apple to produce something that nobody else has sounds like sour grapes. Even though it's a tired subject, it's also pretty hard to ignore the impact of IE pretty much destroying the efficiency of web developers seeking browser independence. Or... putting it another way... You'd think in this day and age, Apple would make Safari a compliant browser, especially since Mozilla Firefox is open source, works on Macs and complies to the latest standards (perhaps it may even be considered the standard at this point). Guess it depends upon one's viewpoint. ;-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Morfik
Brian, Not necessary to get all worked up. I was just responding to Stephen's comment about not working with Safari. And yes, here at Altuit we do have LOTS OF EXPERIENCE WITH SAFARI and Macs. In fact, too much. Turns out every darn dot release, Apple changes WebKit another bit and throws poor Chris back into 'fix' mode. Whereas our IE version of altBrowser hardly ever needed updating. So, I guess you can say my particular view of Safari isn't all that great. -Chipp On 12/1/06, Brian Yennie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's with the Apple bashing, really? ...saying that you'd expect Apple to produce something that nobody else has sounds like sour grapes. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Morfik
Mikey- Thursday, November 30, 2006, 8:03:16 AM, you wrote: The fact that Morfik apparently outputs a custom .exe file with the database and web server embedded sounds truly awful to me. So you're saying I can only run this on Windows, it won't scale, it won't conform to any normal Apache or Firebird documentation, I can't upgrade the web server or database without rebuilding my app, and I can't run this on 99% of the web hosts out there? Three words: Flat. Out. False. I've been a Morfik Pioneer for about a year now, and I'll second that. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Morfik
Mark, You'll second what - my comment or the one I'm responding to (oh crap - am I wrong again?) -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
