Re: OT: Parallels or VMWare Fusion?
I use Virtual Box, its free and works perfectly. But I would never dream of not testing an app on a real physical machine, if I were a professional developing for that platform. Peter -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/OT-Parallels-or-VMWare-Fusion-tp1560956p1562421.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Parallels or VMWare Fusion?
True and never more than 3-4% while PC's apps are on idle ;-) Kind Regards, P. Le 19 févr. 10 à 15:00, Andre Garzia a écrit : Pierre, Smaller processor's time needs means it doesn't lock the computer all time like parallels used to? :D On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Pierre Sahores wrote: Same here after a direct switch from Parallels 3.0 to Virtual Box, because its smallest processor's time needs and because it never crashes ;-) Le 19 févr. 10 à 14:32, Andre Garzia a écrit : I've used Parallels, VMWare Fusion and Virtual Box, in that order, now, I use only virtual box even as I've paid for Fusion 1.0 and Parallels from 1.0 to 3.0. Best Regards, -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Parallels or VMWare Fusion?
Pierre, Smaller processor's time needs means it doesn't lock the computer all time like parallels used to? :D On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Pierre Sahores wrote: > Same here after a direct switch from Parallels 3.0 to Virtual Box, because > its smallest processor's time needs and because it never crashes ;-) > > Le 19 févr. 10 à 14:32, Andre Garzia a écrit : > >> I've used Parallels, VMWare Fusion and Virtual Box, in that order, >> now, I use only virtual box even as I've paid for Fusion 1.0 and >> Parallels from 1.0 to 3.0. > > Best Regards, > > -- > Pierre Sahores > mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 > > www.wrds.com > www.sahores-conseil.com > > > > > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Parallels or VMWare Fusion?
Same here after a direct switch from Parallels 3.0 to Virtual Box, because its smallest processor's time needs and because it never crashes ;-) Le 19 févr. 10 à 14:32, Andre Garzia a écrit : I've used Parallels, VMWare Fusion and Virtual Box, in that order, now, I use only virtual box even as I've paid for Fusion 1.0 and Parallels from 1.0 to 3.0. Best Regards, -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Parallels or VMWare Fusion?
I've used Parallels, VMWare Fusion and Virtual Box, in that order, now, I use only virtual box even as I've paid for Fusion 1.0 and Parallels from 1.0 to 3.0. One good thing I like in virtualbox is that I have it on my mac and on my linux machines, so I can test things on my macbook or fat pc and keep working on the other machine. Also the FREE part is appealing. :D On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Bernard Devlin wrote: > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 10:50 PM, wrote: > i am in the process of switching from Windows to Mac.Not really > switching, but i want to develop on Mac OS X. As i am using some > tools, which are not available for Mac, i need to run a virtual > machine also on my mac. On my windows machines i am running several > virtual machines on VmWare Workstation and i am really satisfied with > it. > <<< > > There's one other option. QEMU and it's free. I dismissed this for a > long time, but after I'd had problems with both VMWare and VirtualBox > (both of which I otherwise liked) I tried QEMU. It appears that QEMU > is the basis for VirtualBox and for the XEN hypervisor, i.e. they are > some fork of QEMU. > > Bernard > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Parallels or VMWare Fusion?
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 10:50 PM, wrote: >>> i am in the process of switching from Windows to Mac.Not really switching, but i want to develop on Mac OS X. As i am using some tools, which are not available for Mac, i need to run a virtual machine also on my mac. On my windows machines i am running several virtual machines on VmWare Workstation and i am really satisfied with it. <<< There's one other option. QEMU and it's free. I dismissed this for a long time, but after I'd had problems with both VMWare and VirtualBox (both of which I otherwise liked) I tried QEMU. It appears that QEMU is the basis for VirtualBox and for the XEN hypervisor, i.e. they are some fork of QEMU. Bernard ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Parallels or VMWare Fusion?
Need Win Applications in my job. Started with Parallels and was quit satisfied BUT since version 4 networking doesn´t work satisfactory so I went to Fusion and its works well. Perhaps Par.version 5 works better?!?!!?!? Parallels had better Mac like look. Regards, Ernst ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Parallels or VMWare Fusion?
Yeah, I got Sun Vbox when I downloaded the Linux package that Andre arranged. I tried to get the package working, but the image I downloaded was not recognized so I didn't get to try the virtualizer yet. Andre said "point it (the virtualizer) to the package" but I couldn't get it to show up. Does someone know the trick? thanks sqb - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 18 February 2010 19:11, Len Morgan wrote: > You might also want to take a look at "VirtualBox" by Sun. It's free, > fast, and cross platform. > > http://www.virtualbox.org > > len > > > On 2/18/2010 6:53 PM, runrev260...@m-r-d.de wrote: > >> Thanks for all your comments. >> So the best is i have to look at both programs. Maybe there are trial >> versions available. >> >> Now i have to wait about 14 days for my mac to arrive. There seems to be >> delivery problems with the iMac. But i can treat with that. What are 14 days >> compared to the time i am waiting for the conference dvds. ;-) >> >> Matthias >> >> >> Original Message >> Subject: OT: Parallels or VMWare Fusion? (18-Feb-2010 23:53) >> From:runrev260...@m-r-d.de >> To: runrev260...@m-r-d.de >> >> >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> i am in the process of switching from Windows to Mac.Not really >>> switching, >>> but i want to develop on Mac OS X. As i am using some tools, which are >>> not >>> available for Mac, i need to run a virtual machine also on my mac. On my >>> windows machines i am running several virtual machines on VmWare >>> Workstation and i am really satisfied with it. So i would prefer VmWare >>> Fusion. especially because i could move my existing virtual machines also >>> to the Mac. But this is not a requirement. Are there any users on the >>> list, >>> which are using one or maybe both of the programs and could tell me, if >>> there are any problems with the programs especially using Revstandalones >>> under virtual Windows machines? >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Matthias >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> use-revolution mailing list >>> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> >> >> >> > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Parallels or VMWare Fusion?
You might also want to take a look at "VirtualBox" by Sun. It's free, fast, and cross platform. http://www.virtualbox.org len On 2/18/2010 6:53 PM, runrev260...@m-r-d.de wrote: Thanks for all your comments. So the best is i have to look at both programs. Maybe there are trial versions available. Now i have to wait about 14 days for my mac to arrive. There seems to be delivery problems with the iMac. But i can treat with that. What are 14 days compared to the time i am waiting for the conference dvds. ;-) Matthias Original Message -------- Subject: OT: Parallels or VMWare Fusion? (18-Feb-2010 23:53) From:runrev260...@m-r-d.de To: runrev260...@m-r-d.de Dear all, i am in the process of switching from Windows to Mac.Not really switching, but i want to develop on Mac OS X. As i am using some tools, which are not available for Mac, i need to run a virtual machine also on my mac. On my windows machines i am running several virtual machines on VmWare Workstation and i am really satisfied with it. So i would prefer VmWare Fusion. especially because i could move my existing virtual machines also to the Mac. But this is not a requirement. Are there any users on the list, which are using one or maybe both of the programs and could tell me, if there are any problems with the programs especially using Revstandalones under virtual Windows machines? Regards, Matthias ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Parallels or VMWare Fusion?
There was a recent review on the web of Parallels, Fusion and the freebie one - forget the name. Parallels was judged the quickest. I have Fusion on one Mac, using the Bootcamp (Apple's scheme for running Windows) partition. Parallels on another machine (same speed CPU) using its own install of WinXP, not Bootcamp. I don't notice much of a difference in speed when running apps, but Parallels is much, much faster at start up and shut down. Not sure if that is the result of using/not using the Bootcamp partition, but because of that I like Parallels a lot better. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan runrev260...@m-r-d.de wrote: > Thanks for all your comments. > So the best is i have to look at both programs. Maybe there are trial > versions available. > > Now i have to wait about 14 days for my mac to arrive. There seems to be > delivery problems with the iMac. But i can treat with that. What are 14 days > compared to the time i am waiting for the conference dvds. ;-) > > Matthias > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Parallels or VMWare Fusion?
Thanks for all your comments. So the best is i have to look at both programs. Maybe there are trial versions available. Now i have to wait about 14 days for my mac to arrive. There seems to be delivery problems with the iMac. But i can treat with that. What are 14 days compared to the time i am waiting for the conference dvds. ;-) Matthias Original Message Subject: OT: Parallels or VMWare Fusion? (18-Feb-2010 23:53) From:runrev260...@m-r-d.de To: runrev260...@m-r-d.de > Dear all, > > i am in the process of switching from Windows to Mac.Not really switching, > but i want to develop on Mac OS X. As i am using some tools, which are not > available for Mac, i need to run a virtual machine also on my mac. On my > windows machines i am running several virtual machines on VmWare > Workstation and i am really satisfied with it. So i would prefer VmWare > Fusion. especially because i could move my existing virtual machines also > to the Mac. But this is not a requirement. Are there any users on the list, > which are using one or maybe both of the programs and could tell me, if > there are any problems with the programs especially using Revstandalones > under virtual Windows machines? > > Regards, > > Matthias > > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > > > > To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Parallels or VMWare Fusion?
> i am in the process of switching from Windows to Mac.Not really switching, > but i want to develop on Mac OS X. As i am using some tools, which are not > available for Mac, i need to run a virtual machine also on my mac. On my > windows machines i am running several virtual machines on VmWare Workstation > and i am really satisfied with it. So i would prefer VmWare Fusion. > especially because i could move my existing virtual machines also to the Mac. > But this is not a requirement. Are there any users on the list, which are > using one or maybe both of the programs and could tell me, if there are any > problems with the programs especially using Revstandalones under virtual > Windows machines? I used to use Fusion, but since I rarely use it, I didn't see the value in paying for the recent upgrade. Now I use Sun's Virtual Box which is free. I don't think it gives the same level of performance as either Fusion or Parallels but is fine for testing standalones, creating icons, building Windows installers etc. Parallels & Fusion have both released recent upgrades and I think they are quite similar, although I seem to remember reading that Parallels now has the performance edge. It really depends what you want to do. My kids play all the latest PC games using BootCamp. If you need graphics performance, then BootCamp is the way to go. If you don't use high-end graphics, then any of the virtualisation programs will do a good job. Since you already have VMware virtual machines, I would go with Fusion or Virtual Box (which can also read these vm's). Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Parallels or VMWare Fusion?
Hi Stephen, I'm using Fusion WITH Bootcamp, so I could boot directly into Windows if I wanted, but prefer the Fusion connection so I can bounce back and forth between XP and OSX. Most of the time I'm using XP to read the California Building Code which doesn't come in a Mac version. I find what I need, copy it, go to my OSX applications and paste the text, and/or graphics (screen shots) where needed. Fusion minimizes to the dock when I go to OSX. Only reason for doing this is that Spotlight doesn't find anything on XP docs. At one point, I tried to transfer the entire code into a Mac doc, but it's just too huge. Joe Lewis Wilkins Architect On Feb 18, 2010, at 3:32 PM, stephen barncard wrote: > This would be a good time to find out what people are using for x-platform > dev with macs-- > > What is the most 'centric' version of Windows to allow one develop in a > virtualized space with minimum fuss (if that's possible with Windows). I'm > considering the free Sun virtualizer - what are the pros and cons vs the > others? ( and I don't want to use Boot Camp - too inconvenient) > > thanks > - > Stephen Barncard > San Francisco > http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev > > > On 18 February 2010 14:56, Jeff Massung wrote: > >> I've used both and definitely liked VMware far more than Parallels. But, >> Parallels has since gone from version 3 to 5, and perhaps it's improved. >> >> Jeff M. >> ___ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Parallels or VMWare Fusion?
runrev260...@m-r-d.de wrote: Dear all, i am in the process of switching from Windows to Mac.Not really switching, but i want to develop on Mac OS X. As i am using some tools, which are not available for Mac, i need to run a virtual machine also on my mac. On my windows machines i am running several virtual machines on VmWare Workstation and i am really satisfied with it. So i would prefer VmWare Fusion. especially because i could move my existing virtual machines also to the Mac. But this is not a requirement. Are there any users on the list, which are using one or maybe both of the programs and could tell me, if there are any problems with the programs especially using Revstandalones under virtual Windows machines? I've always used Parallels, and everything works fine there. Never had any issues. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Parallels or VMWare Fusion?
This would be a good time to find out what people are using for x-platform dev with macs-- What is the most 'centric' version of Windows to allow one develop in a virtualized space with minimum fuss (if that's possible with Windows). I'm considering the free Sun virtualizer - what are the pros and cons vs the others? ( and I don't want to use Boot Camp - too inconvenient) thanks - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://houseofcubes.com/disco.irev On 18 February 2010 14:56, Jeff Massung wrote: > I've used both and definitely liked VMware far more than Parallels. But, > Parallels has since gone from version 3 to 5, and perhaps it's improved. > > Jeff M. > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Parallels or VMWare Fusion?
Hi Matthias, I've completed a couple of standalones on a Mac, one with Tiger and a couple with SnowLeopard - MacOSX versions, Classic Mac for one of them, and Windows XP versions for all of them. This was a few months back. I was using Fusion 3 something in the beginning and then moved up to 4 with XP and the stand alones work OK, though I had deleted some of the features that the Mac Versions used, and I haven't redone it yet with Snow Leopard. I was able to run them OK. Some were basically just slide shows, but one was quite a bit more complex. My biggest problems were trying to get sound (music clips) and voices to work on the Windows stand alones. Since that was just frosting on the cake, I ended up getting rid of those features for the Window's versions. I've had a very good experience with Fusion. I never tried Parallels. Most of the programs are 50 or more MBs; mostly pictures with commentary. HTH, Joe Lewis Wilkins Architect On Feb 18, 2010, at 2:50 PM, runrev260...@m-r-d.de wrote: > Dear all, > > i am in the process of switching from Windows to Mac.Not really switching, > but i want to develop on Mac OS X. As i am using some tools, which are not > available for Mac, i need to run a virtual machine also on my mac. On my > windows machines i am running several virtual machines on VmWare Workstation > and i am really satisfied with it. So i would prefer VmWare Fusion. > especially because i could move my existing virtual machines also to the Mac. > But this is not a requirement. Are there any users on the list, which are > using one or maybe both of the programs and could tell me, if there are any > problems with the programs especially using Revstandalones under virtual > Windows machines? > > Regards, > > Matthias ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Parallels or VMWare Fusion?
I've used both and definitely liked VMware far more than Parallels. But, Parallels has since gone from version 3 to 5, and perhaps it's improved. Jeff M. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT: Parallels or VMWare Fusion?
Dear all, i am in the process of switching from Windows to Mac.Not really switching, but i want to develop on Mac OS X. As i am using some tools, which are not available for Mac, i need to run a virtual machine also on my mac. On my windows machines i am running several virtual machines on VmWare Workstation and i am really satisfied with it. So i would prefer VmWare Fusion. especially because i could move my existing virtual machines also to the Mac. But this is not a requirement. Are there any users on the list, which are using one or maybe both of the programs and could tell me, if there are any problems with the programs especially using Revstandalones under virtual Windows machines? Regards, Matthias ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
