Open-source: Presentation software

2005-01-06 Thread Mark Talluto
Some time ago I created a commercial product called Multimedia 
Generator.  This is presentation software that was designed for the 
education market.  We ended up getting users in many different markets 
over time.  The software is pretty easy to use, but does lack some 
polish and features from talented folks like you.

If you are interested in joining an open-source effort to make a better 
presentation tool using Rev, please join the group I have created at 
Yahoo:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mmgen/

Thanks for taking a look!
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Re: Open-source: Presentation software

2005-01-06 Thread Gordon Webster
Mark

I checked out your Yahoo groups page - the project
sounds potentially interesting but it's hard to know
how interesting in the absence of more info.

Best

Gordon

--- Mark Talluto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Some time ago I created a commercial product called
 Multimedia 
 Generator.  This is presentation software that was
 designed for the 
 education market.  We ended up getting users in many
 different markets 
 over time.  The software is pretty easy to use, but
 does lack some 
 polish and features from talented folks like you.
 
 If you are interested in joining an open-source
 effort to make a better 
 presentation tool using Rev, please join the group I
 have created at 
 Yahoo:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mmgen/
 
 Thanks for taking a look!
 
 -- 
 Best regards,
 Mark Talluto
 http://www.canelasoftware.com
 
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RE: Open-source: Presentation software

2005-01-06 Thread Lynch, Jonathan
What kind of objects does your presentation software use? By that, I
mean, I assume it does fields, pictures, audio, and video. Any other
types of objects? I have been thinking that a 3-D object viewer would be
a great object. (I hope no one objects to my overuse of the word
'object' here, which, objectively speaking, I am definitely overusing).

I also think a 3-D animated character generator that speaks to the
viewer, using whatever text is sent to it from a handler, would be
nifty.

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Some time ago I created a commercial product called Multimedia 
Generator.  This is presentation software that was designed for the 
education market.  We ended up getting users in many different markets 
over time.  The software is pretty easy to use, but does lack some 
polish and features from talented folks like you.

If you are interested in joining an open-source effort to make a better 
presentation tool using Rev, please join the group I have created at 
Yahoo:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mmgen/

Thanks for taking a look!

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Mark Talluto
http://www.canelasoftware.com

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Re: Open-source: Presentation software

2005-01-06 Thread Mark Talluto
On Jan 6, 2005, at 11:32 AM, Gordon Webster wrote:
Mark
I checked out your Yahoo groups page - the project
sounds potentially interesting but it's hard to know
how interesting in the absence of more info.

Hi Gordon,
I am very new at working in an open-source project.  Ask me what you 
want to know and I'll tell you what I can.  I am probably missing all 
the key marketing phrases to excite the senses.  It really is pretty 
simple though.  I am no longer selling my commercial presentation 
software called Multimedia Generator.  I have decided to open up the 
code to those that are interested in improving it.  Some of you might 
just want to download it and use it for your own use.  Others might 
have a bent on making it one of the best alternatives to Keynote or 
Powerpoint.

My intended user base was educators.  They did not want a huge product 
that could do everything under the sun.  Most just wanted to import 
pictures of their students for end of the year presentations.  Others 
used it as a HyperStudio replacement when they switched to OS X.

It has become difficult to compete with the big guys and their 
offerings.  Price and simplicity are its key features.

It is lacking in certain areas.  It could really use a visual 
representation of each slide as an example.

Beginners may like taking it apart and seeing how things work.  As I 
look at it years later, I shake my head and ask What was I thinking?  
As we grow in skill, we find that there is always more than one way to 
do a task.  It seems that my early years chose some pretty strange yet 
effective methods.  The good part is that it is commented pretty well.

I am working on putting in the license on the about screen.  I just 
gutted the registration code so that anyone can use it.  I'll post the 
stack on the yahoo group in about 20 minutes.

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Re: Open-source: Presentation software

2005-01-06 Thread Mark Talluto
On Jan 6, 2005, at 11:32 AM, Lynch, Jonathan wrote:
What kind of objects does your presentation software use? By that, I
mean, I assume it does fields, pictures, audio, and video. Any other
types of objects? I have been thinking that a 3-D object viewer would 
be
a great object. (I hope no one objects to my overuse of the word
'object' here, which, objectively speaking, I am definitely overusing).

I also think a 3-D animated character generator that speaks to the
viewer, using whatever text is sent to it from a handler, would be
nifty.
It supports static fields (they do not move...yet), images, audio for 
each slide, background audio for all slides, video, and simple draw 
graphics.  It supports formats that QT supports.  Thus it would be 
possible to use QTVR as well as Flash 4.  A 3-D control would be very 
cool!

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RE: Open-source: Presentation software

2005-01-06 Thread Lynch, Jonathan
Well, if you need an autoflow script, to allow formatted text to
automatically continue from one field to another, I can offer that. It
is useful for creating text that wraps around pictures, or columns that
continue across different pages.

I also have a script for resizing pictures with the mouse while keeping
the aspect ratio the same.

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On Jan 6, 2005, at 11:32 AM, Lynch, Jonathan wrote:

 What kind of objects does your presentation software use? By that, I
 mean, I assume it does fields, pictures, audio, and video. Any other
 types of objects? I have been thinking that a 3-D object viewer would 
 be
 a great object. (I hope no one objects to my overuse of the word
 'object' here, which, objectively speaking, I am definitely
overusing).

 I also think a 3-D animated character generator that speaks to the
 viewer, using whatever text is sent to it from a handler, would be
 nifty.

It supports static fields (they do not move...yet), images, audio for 
each slide, background audio for all slides, video, and simple draw 
graphics.  It supports formats that QT supports.  Thus it would be 
possible to use QTVR as well as Flash 4.  A 3-D control would be very 
cool!

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RE: 3D Object Viewer (was: Open-source: Presentation software)

2005-01-06 Thread Gordon Webster
A 3D object viewer for rev, now you're talking!

My personal dream would be to see a set of openGL
bindings for rev that would allow you to create a 3D
viewport window on a rev stack - perhaps embedded in
an image object the way Chipp's altBrowser is.

BTW: OpenGL is cross-platform too :-)

Gordon


--- Lynch, Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What kind of objects does your presentation software
 use? By that, I
 mean, I assume it does fields, pictures, audio, and
 video. Any other
 types of objects? I have been thinking that a 3-D
 object viewer would be
 a great object. (I hope no one objects to my overuse
 of the word
 'object' here, which, objectively speaking, I am
 definitely overusing).
 
 I also think a 3-D animated character generator that
 speaks to the
 viewer, using whatever text is sent to it from a
 handler, would be
 nifty.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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 Talluto
 Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 2:24 PM
 To: Revolution use Revolution
 Subject: Open-source: Presentation software
 
 Some time ago I created a commercial product called
 Multimedia 
 Generator.  This is presentation software that was
 designed for the 
 education market.  We ended up getting users in many
 different markets 
 over time.  The software is pretty easy to use, but
 does lack some 
 polish and features from talented folks like you.
 
 If you are interested in joining an open-source
 effort to make a better 
 presentation tool using Rev, please join the group I
 have created at 
 Yahoo:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mmgen/
 
 Thanks for taking a look!
 
 -- 
 Best regards,
 Mark Talluto
 http://www.canelasoftware.com
 
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Re: Open-source: Presentation software

2005-01-06 Thread Mark Talluto
On Jan 6, 2005, at 11:48 AM, Lynch, Jonathan wrote:
Well, if you need an autoflow script, to allow formatted text to
automatically continue from one field to another, I can offer that. It
is useful for creating text that wraps around pictures, or columns that
continue across different pages.
I also have a script for resizing pictures with the mouse while keeping
the aspect ratio the same.
Both of those features would be very useful.  Please join the group and 
post your ideas and code there.  That way we will have a record of 
ideas and access to your code.  We might start out by creating a list 
of features that you want to see implemented.  I have a list of small 
bugs and feature requests from users as well.

I want to make one thing super clear.  I do not expect anything from 
anyone.  Joining the group is not a binding act in any way.  :)  It is 
just a place where we can meet when you have time, talk about 
improvements, and make them happen.  Everyone has their day job 
including myself.  MMG has been slipping and has not been touched in 
three years.  I would like to work on it in the wee hours when time 
permits and improve it.

Now that you know there are no dotted lines to sign onjoin up and 
download it and see what we have to work with.  It should be up very 
soon now.

-Mark
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RE: 3D Object Viewer (was: Open-source: Presentation software)

2005-01-06 Thread Lynch, Jonathan
I have been thinking extensively about that very idea!

It would require having custom properties for each object that would
appear in the 3-D space that defines that object's location in 3-D
space.

Then, when the card preloads, you take the data for all objects inside
the group with the image that will show the 3-D picture, and create an
array of all 3-D pixels. Empty/transparent pixels would not be included
in the array (otherwise it would get too large to be practical).
Although this interim array step would slow down the loading up of a
card, it would speed up the calculations needed for navigating in the
3-D space.

Then, a script calculates a line that is perpendicular to each point on
an imaginary plane (the imaginary plane being the view perspective).
Whatever point in the array of points that is closest to the imaginary
plane, along the line that is perpendicular to that point, is placed in
the Z-buffer.

When the Z-buffer is full, and thus the entire viewpoint for the
imaginary plane has been mapped out, then the Z-buffer is transferred
into the viewing image.

It sounds easy, but there is a lot to consider - like optimizing
calculations so that moving through the 3-D space does not take forever,
and figuring out the parallax equations, so that large objects appear to
taper into the distance.

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A 3D object viewer for rev, now you're talking!

My personal dream would be to see a set of openGL
bindings for rev that would allow you to create a 3D
viewport window on a rev stack - perhaps embedded in
an image object the way Chipp's altBrowser is.

BTW: OpenGL is cross-platform too :-)

Gordon


--- Lynch, Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What kind of objects does your presentation software
 use? By that, I
 mean, I assume it does fields, pictures, audio, and
 video. Any other
 types of objects? I have been thinking that a 3-D
 object viewer would be
 a great object. (I hope no one objects to my overuse
 of the word
 'object' here, which, objectively speaking, I am
 definitely overusing).
 
 I also think a 3-D animated character generator that
 speaks to the
 viewer, using whatever text is sent to it from a
 handler, would be
 nifty.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mark
 Talluto
 Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 2:24 PM
 To: Revolution use Revolution
 Subject: Open-source: Presentation software
 
 Some time ago I created a commercial product called
 Multimedia 
 Generator.  This is presentation software that was
 designed for the 
 education market.  We ended up getting users in many
 different markets 
 over time.  The software is pretty easy to use, but
 does lack some 
 polish and features from talented folks like you.
 
 If you are interested in joining an open-source
 effort to make a better 
 presentation tool using Rev, please join the group I
 have created at 
 Yahoo:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mmgen/
 
 Thanks for taking a look!
 
 -- 
 Best regards,
 Mark Talluto
 http://www.canelasoftware.com
 
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Re: 3D Object Viewer (was: Open-source: Presentation software)

2005-01-06 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Gordon Webster wrote:

 A 3D object viewer for rev, now you're talking!
 
 My personal dream would be to see a set of openGL
 bindings for rev that would allow you to create a 3D
 viewport window on a rev stack

The iGame3D guys have it.  The developed a game for uDevGames with it here:
http://www.igame3d.com/

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, Development  Design
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