Re: File/Picture Chooser Widgets available for Windows XP
Andre Garzia wrote: >I don't have a windows machine so I didn't saw your stacks, if you >could point us to shots would be cool! To Andre and other non-Windows XP users who might be curious about the appearance of the file/picture chooser widgets currently in beta: http://www.howsoft.com/runrev/stacks.htm Take a butcher's at the page above. Best, Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: File/Picture Chooser Widgets available for Windows XP
Thanks Xav! Yes, when the picture widget's preview picture is shown, it flashes. This is because the picture is loaded at normal size first, to get the aspect, and is then (usually) reduced to a smaller size, in the correct ratio, for display in the preview. Obviously, the normal and very simple solution to this is to hide the picture while this is taking place, and only show it again when it is ready. However, when I do this, Rev crashes! During the development of this project, many examples of this kind have occurred. The great problem is that a great many things appear to work normally, but that within a certain context, they don't. For example, it would be very easy to demonstrate in a test stack that loading and re-sizing a picture box invisibly before showing it works 100%. The difficult part is explaining why it doesn't work in my program! Temporarily, I have left the preview picture visible, until I can find a workaround that does not cause Rev to crash. Once the dust has settled during this initial phase, I would like to raise some of the issues arising from the project with the Rev community, to see whether bugs ought to be reported or whether workarounds can be found. Another example: In the test stack I have provided, there is a shell call to the widget EXEs. I say "shell" because when I tried the simpler "launch" command with the widget EXEs, it would work sometimes, but not others. So I tried "launching" another program in a test stack, and it worked perfectly every time! Thanks again for your feedback. To the other Windows XP users, PLEASE test my widgets and let me know what happens! Regards, Bob MisterX wrote: Bob works perfectly here - the exes... well, almost... some flashing updates here or there... both the exes works like a charm... winxp... 1gb ram, 3GHz... rev 261 cheers Xav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Warren Sent: Wednesday, 18 January, 2006 17:37 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: File/Picture Chooser Widgets available for Windows XP Dear Windows XP Users (and others), This is a quick status report on the testing of the file and picture chooser widgets available for download at http://www.howsoft.com/downloads/runrev . On my machines, these widgets work perfectly. However, for some reason yet to be discovered, they do not work on Ken Ray's machine. In order to help with the diagnosis, I have released a copy of the file chooser stack to him. In the meantime, I suggest that the widgets as they stand should be used for testing purposes, but not for distribution in any way. I need to discover whether the difficulty on Ken's machine is an isolated incident or whether it represents the tip of an iceberg. So far, Ken has been extremely helpful. But what I need at this moment is for other Windows XP users to test the widgets and to tell me how they behave on their machines and their particular flavour of Windows XP. The sooner I get this issue solved, the sooner I can get to work on the Linux versions and arrange for a conversion to MAC. RR sadly lacks a picture chooser with preview, so whatever you can do to help would be of potential benefit to all. Thanks guys. Regards, Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: File/Picture Chooser Widgets available for Windows XP
Bob No I hadn't tried - just the standard usage test. But changing them ini's don't see to work either ;) Filters ini don't seem to work either... cheers Xavier > -Original Message- > From: Bob Warren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, 18 January, 2006 21:57 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Subject: Re: File/Picture Chooser Widgets available for Windows XP > > Xav: > > Ken reported that when he tried altering the INI parameters > to change the size of the widget's window, etc., not all the > parameters were correctly actioned. Have you tried altering > these parameters? If so, were they all actioned correctly? > > Thanks, > Bob > > > > MisterX wrote: > > >Bob > > > >works perfectly here - the exes... > > > >well, almost... some flashing updates here or there... > > > >both the exes works like a charm... > > > >winxp... 1gb ram, 3GHz... rev 261 > > > >cheers > >Xav > > > > > > > >>-Original Message- > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob > >>Warren > >>Sent: Wednesday, 18 January, 2006 17:37 > >>To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > >>Subject: Re: File/Picture Chooser Widgets available for Windows XP > >> > >>Dear Windows XP Users (and others), > >> > >>This is a quick status report on the testing of the file > and picture > >>chooser widgets available for download at > >> > >>http://www.howsoft.com/downloads/runrev . > >> > >>On my machines, these widgets work perfectly. However, for > some reason > >>yet to be discovered, they do not work on Ken Ray's > machine. In order > >>to help with the diagnosis, I have released a copy of the > file chooser > >>stack to him. > >> > >>In the meantime, I suggest that the widgets as they stand should be > >>used for testing purposes, but not for distribution in any > way. I need > >>to discover whether the difficulty on Ken's machine is an isolated > >>incident or whether it represents the tip of an iceberg. > >> > >>So far, Ken has been extremely helpful. But what I need at > this moment > >>is for other Windows XP users to test the widgets and to > tell me how > >>they behave on their machines and their particular flavour > of Windows > >>XP. > >> > >>The sooner I get this issue solved, the sooner I can get to work on > >>the Linux versions and arrange for a conversion to MAC. RR > sadly lacks > >>a picture chooser with preview, so whatever you can do to > help would > >>be of potential benefit to all. > >> > >>Thanks guys. > >> > >>Regards, > >>Bob > >> > >>___ > >>use-revolution mailing list > >>use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > >>Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >>subscription preferences: > >>http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: File/Picture Chooser Widgets available for Windows XP
Great! Thanks very much Alex. I think you've just defined #2 for me! Just about everything you asked for is desirable. I'll keep your list, and when the times comes I'll try to include as much as I can. As you will appreciate, at the moment I need to concentrate on achieving the stability of #1 in its current primitive form, but as soon as I can I will return to the task of improving the widgets. Please do experiment with the INI parameters and let me know whether they work OK on your machine. I hope you don't mind if I post this reply to the list, as I think most other potential users will be interested in the features you have asked for. Also, your much appreciated interest might encourage others to try out this first version of the widgets. OK? Regards, Bob Alex Tweedly wrote: Bob Warren wrote: Dear Windows XP Users (and others), This is a quick status report on the testing of the file and picture chooser widgets available for download at http://www.howsoft.com/downloads/runrev . Hi Bob. I've started testing, but haven't yet experimented with changing the .ini values. However, I do have some suggestions One Bug (imho) : fix what happens when user hits TAB and shift-TAB TAB should step the focus through the various controls. Currently it moves focus from folder-list to file-list and then to "Cancel", but although focus is on cancel, it leaves the most recent file highlighted. Goes nowhere after the filter-list (Windows would normally cycle back to first control). shift-TAB is apparently ignored. some suggestions (these would be almost essential for me): allow more flexible filters (see Rev docs) should at least allow, e.g. *.jpg;*.jpeg JPEG files but would be even better to allow the full flexibility allowed by "answer file" allow multi-file selection (with ctrl and shift click, or shift+arrow) accept up-arrow and down-arrow keys in folder and file lists clicking on a different directory should remove the preview of the photo suggestions (these would be nice): RETURN should be equivalent to clicking OK (or cancel if that's your preferred default - but there should be a default). accept page-up and page down in folder and file lists accept up/down arrow in filter list allow "incremental search" in folder and file lists (or at least initial letter selection) make the preview optional (it's noticeably slow on 6Mb files, esp across the wifi network :-) allow left/right arrow to select between disks (a c d etc.) make the window be sizable allow user to change space allocation between list windows (or change the space automatically ??) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: File/Picture Chooser Widgets available for Windows XP
Bob Warren wrote: Dear Windows XP Users (and others), This is a quick status report on the testing of the file and picture chooser widgets available for download at http://www.howsoft.com/downloads/runrev . Hi Bob. I've started testing, but haven't yet experimented with changing the .ini values. However, I do have some suggestions One Bug (imho) : fix what happens when user hits TAB and shift-TAB TAB should step the focus through the various controls. Currently it moves focus from folder-list to file-list and then to "Cancel", but although focus is on cancel, it leaves the most recent file highlighted. Goes nowhere after the filter-list (Windows would normally cycle back to first control). shift-TAB is apparently ignored. some suggestions (these would be almost essential for me): allow more flexible filters (see Rev docs) should at least allow, e.g. *.jpg;*.jpeg JPEG files but would be even better to allow the full flexibility allowed by "answer file" allow multi-file selection (with ctrl and shift click, or shift+arrow) accept up-arrow and down-arrow keys in folder and file lists clicking on a different directory should remove the preview of the photo suggestions (these would be nice): RETURN should be equivalent to clicking OK (or cancel if that's your preferred default - but there should be a default). accept page-up and page down in folder and file lists accept up/down arrow in filter list allow "incremental search" in folder and file lists (or at least initial letter selection) make the preview optional (it's noticeably slow on 6Mb files, esp across the wifi network :-) allow left/right arrow to select between disks (a c d etc.) make the window be sizable allow user to change space allocation between list windows (or change the space automatically ??) -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.20/233 - Release Date: 18/01/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: File/Picture Chooser Widgets available for Windows XP
Thanks to your valuable feedback, I now know what tasks are immediately ahead in order to make the widgets acceptable for your use. I'll be going offline for a while now to concentrate on getting these things sorted out as soon as possible, and I'll let you know as soon as the widgets are hopefully "ready" again. My aim for #1 is to give Windows XP users a simple, stable and acceptable pair of widgets. This involves: 1) Getting rid of "Ken's bug" so that on computers where it appears the user has no further trouble either running the widgets or altering the INI parameters effectively. 2) Minimizing all "flashing" effects which are particularly apparent on slower machines. 3) Allowing the operator to re-size the widgets manually, and to move the central division between the left and right panes. 4) Removing the last picture previewed when the operator clicks on the folders list in the left pane. 4) Eliminating the functions of keys which do not lead to a useful result. 5) Important "etceteras" as they arise. My aim for #2 is to incorporate improvements suggested by Alex and others, and some of my own. For example, I have already paved the way for allowing the user to include his own background picture (usually some coloured pattern): this would also involve allowing the user to alter the colour of the text, to provide a satisfactory contrast. As soon as I finish #1 for Windows XP, I will begin work on #1 for Linux, simultaneously working on #2 for Windows. Quite possibly, when #1 for Linux is ready, much of the work achieved on #2 for Windows can be transferred immediately to Linux. Finally, I can arrange for #2 of Linux to be adapted to MAC (or another option would be to arrange the adaption of #1 to MAC as soon as it is ready, and then do #2 afterwards). I'll probably be back online again if I need help over the technical aspects. Regards, Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: File/Picture Chooser Widgets available for Windows XP
Apart from my Windows machine, I have only one other old PC at the moment that I use for Linux. Last night, in order to try and reproduce "Ken's bug" (since I thought it might be connected to the use of a slower machine), I ripped out my Linux and installed Win XP. Unfortunately, the widgets worked perfectly! The only thing I noted was the greater flashing that Xavier complained about. But all is not lost! I got my son #3 to run the widgets on his laptop, and lo-and-behold the problem appeared! All I need to do now is to try and kidnap his machine for a while so that I can find a cure. Just thought you might like to know... Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: File/Picture Chooser Widgets available for Windows XP
Xav: Ken reported that when he tried altering the INI parameters to change the size of the widget's window, etc., not all the parameters were correctly actioned. Have you tried altering these parameters? If so, were they all actioned correctly? Thanks, Bob MisterX wrote: Bob works perfectly here - the exes... well, almost... some flashing updates here or there... both the exes works like a charm... winxp... 1gb ram, 3GHz... rev 261 cheers Xav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Warren Sent: Wednesday, 18 January, 2006 17:37 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: File/Picture Chooser Widgets available for Windows XP Dear Windows XP Users (and others), This is a quick status report on the testing of the file and picture chooser widgets available for download at http://www.howsoft.com/downloads/runrev . On my machines, these widgets work perfectly. However, for some reason yet to be discovered, they do not work on Ken Ray's machine. In order to help with the diagnosis, I have released a copy of the file chooser stack to him. In the meantime, I suggest that the widgets as they stand should be used for testing purposes, but not for distribution in any way. I need to discover whether the difficulty on Ken's machine is an isolated incident or whether it represents the tip of an iceberg. So far, Ken has been extremely helpful. But what I need at this moment is for other Windows XP users to test the widgets and to tell me how they behave on their machines and their particular flavour of Windows XP. The sooner I get this issue solved, the sooner I can get to work on the Linux versions and arrange for a conversion to MAC. RR sadly lacks a picture chooser with preview, so whatever you can do to help would be of potential benefit to all. Thanks guys. Regards, Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: File/Picture Chooser Widgets available for Windows XP
Dear Windows XP Users (and others), This is a quick status report on the testing of the file and picture chooser widgets available for download at http://www.howsoft.com/downloads/runrev . On my machines, these widgets work perfectly. However, for some reason yet to be discovered, they do not work on Ken Ray's machine. In order to help with the diagnosis, I have released a copy of the file chooser stack to him. In the meantime, I suggest that the widgets as they stand should be used for testing purposes, but not for distribution in any way. I need to discover whether the difficulty on Ken's machine is an isolated incident or whether it represents the tip of an iceberg. So far, Ken has been extremely helpful. But what I need at this moment is for other Windows XP users to test the widgets and to tell me how they behave on their machines and their particular flavour of Windows XP. The sooner I get this issue solved, the sooner I can get to work on the Linux versions and arrange for a conversion to MAC. RR sadly lacks a picture chooser with preview, so whatever you can do to help would be of potential benefit to all. Thanks guys. Regards, Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: File/Picture Chooser Widgets available for Windows XP
OK, thanks Ken. All I can do now is to try and find an XP machine that gives a similar result. I'll let you know what I turn up. Bob Ken Ray wrote: On 1/17/06 1:08 PM, "Bob Warren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ken: I have just run the widgets on my wife's machine: Win XP, SP2, Portuguese. The programs ran perfectly. I also tried changing every parameter in every INI file. They were all actioned correctly. There is something going on here that I don't understand. Could it be what I suggested about running the progs from the Documents and Settings? Sorry, but no... I even moved the files into c:\kentemp and got the same result. It's odd that some settings work (setting the indent, setting the disk), and others don't. I changed all of the "size" lines to 1000 just to make sure I didn't do anything subtle that might be missed, but to no avail. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: File/Picture Chooser Widgets available for Windows XP
Dear Sivakatirswami, If you are working with MAC, the stacks wouldn't do you much good at the moment. This is on account of the fact that the Mac file system is vastly different from the Windows one. My plan is to convert the Windows XP version to Linux first, and I anticipate that this might cause me a considerable amount of work. But I possess a Linux machine and I can do the job. Thereafter, conversion to the Mac file system should be easier, but I cannot do it myself because I do not have a Macintosh computer. Nor am I likely to acquire one in the near future. Even the $500 Mac Mini costs about 3 times the US price here in Brazil, not only in general practice but also according to the manufacturer's recommendation! So if a MAC version is eventually to see the light of day, somebody else would have to do the conversion (from the proposed Linux version). The standalone widgets for Windows XP are free, and I have no commercial ambitions. Nor do I intend to commercailise the proposed Linux and Mac versions. Also, I hope to become progressively more involved in Linux, which suggests the appropriateness of "open source" and such. However, what concerns me is that these widgets should be available to the RR community and that they should work reliably. At the moment, I am entirely responsible for their reliability. Once I allow all and sundry to muck about with my stacks, I can no longer be responsible for them. Whether or not, or at what point, I will make the widget stacks available to the RR community is still an open question though. I may change my mind in the future. Regarding the MAC version, which I am unable to achieve myself (unless you buy me a computer), I would prefer to pass on the future Linux version to a single individual or body for conversion. This way, responsibility would be strictly limited and, hopefully, a more reliable result would be achieved. On top of what I have said, I would also like to point out that these stacks are far from trivial. At first sight, one would think that such widgets should be simple. In fact, they are quite complex, and it took me months to write them. (Of course, I have very little experience in Rev, so I am prepared to believe that another programmer might be able to produce better widgets in a much more efficient way. However, for some reason, nobody appears to have done it so far, and I wonder if it might have something to do with the complexity of the task, among other things.) With the Linux version ready, I would be quite happy to pass the stacks across to the RR team for conversion to MAC. However, adapting someone else's complicated program is a daunting task, even for the experts on the RR team, and anyway they are busy people. Somehow, I can't see it happening. Regards, Bob -- Sivakatirswami wrote: Mac user here: OSX. I work with images on a daily basis, 20 days a month, so I'm always interested in tools. basically I have three little apps that load pix, preview pix, allow re-naming files in the directory, re-order, build html around them set captions etc. and would always like to see more handlers in this vein as my own tool set I consider relatively primitive. Why not just post the app as a stack? then anyone of us on any platform can test it? Or are you going for commercial--and therefore need to keep the code locked up? Sivakatirswami Dear Windows XP Users, I have produced 2 standalone widgets for the selection of files or pictures (with preview). They are free, and you can use them as you wish. To download the demo pack, please navigate to:- http://www.howsoft.com/downloads/runrev/ - where you will find the file: RunRev_Chooser_Widgets_DEMO_PACK_1.zip This ZIP archive contains a readme file which gives full instructions for use and testing. My real intention is to produce similar widgets for Linux, but I thought it would be easier to do a Windows XP version first to gain experience, since I am more familar with Windows. I will be working on the Linux versions as of now. Once the similar Linux versions have been produced, I will almost certainly beautify the widgets in #2, allowing the user to include his own background image and perhaps using little pictures for the HD tree nodes instead of the symbols "+" and "--" that I have used in #1. Thereafter, if the demand exists, we can look into the problem of producing versions for MAC - facilitated by the existence of the Linux versions. Unfortunately, I don't possess a Macintosh computer, nor am I likely to on account of their very high price in Brazil. But first things first, let's see if you think the widgets are worth developing further! Best, Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your
Re: File/Picture Chooser Widgets available for Windows XP
Ken: I have just run the widgets on my wife's machine: Win XP, SP2, Portuguese. The programs ran perfectly. I also tried changing every parameter in every INI file. They were all actioned correctly. There is something going on here that I don't understand. Could it be what I suggested about running the progs from the Documents and Settings? I've not tried it here 'cos I'm a bit afraid to. I've never tried running ordinary apps in this way. The point is that the widgets can actually write their output files on the disk. I don't know (or even really want to know) what Windows thinks about that. Anyway, perhaps the situation will clarify when you tell me what happens when you run the widgets from a "normal" directory. Best, Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: File/Picture Chooser Widgets available for Windows XP
Mac user here: OSX. I work with images on a daily basis, 20 days a month, so I'm always interested in tools. basically I have three little apps that load pix, preview pix, allow re-naming files in the directory, re-order, build html around them set captions etc. and would always like to see more handlers in this vein as my own tool set I consider relatively primitive. Why not just post the app as a stack? then anyone of us on any platform can test it? Or are you going for commercial--and therefore need to keep the code locked up? Sivakatirswami Dear Windows XP Users, I have produced 2 standalone widgets for the selection of files or pictures (with preview). They are free, and you can use them as you wish. To download the demo pack, please navigate to:- http://www.howsoft.com/downloads/runrev/ - where you will find the file: RunRev_Chooser_Widgets_DEMO_PACK_1.zip This ZIP archive contains a readme file which gives full instructions for use and testing. My real intention is to produce similar widgets for Linux, but I thought it would be easier to do a Windows XP version first to gain experience, since I am more familar with Windows. I will be working on the Linux versions as of now. Once the similar Linux versions have been produced, I will almost certainly beautify the widgets in #2, allowing the user to include his own background image and perhaps using little pictures for the HD tree nodes instead of the symbols "+" and "--" that I have used in #1. Thereafter, if the demand exists, we can look into the problem of producing versions for MAC - facilitated by the existence of the Linux versions. Unfortunately, I don't possess a Macintosh computer, nor am I likely to on account of their very high price in Brazil. But first things first, let's see if you think the widgets are worth developing further! Best, Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: File/Picture Chooser Widgets available for Windows XP
Dear Ken, I do hope that all of this doesn't add up to a programming principle I learned many years ago. On a different machine, even with the same operating system, a program can still crash for reasons which are not immediately apparent. We just have to test, test, and test again, on machines of all shapes and sizes. The problem might, for example, be one of timing. The machine I used to create the widgets is a particularly fast one, with a dual processor. If your machine is slower, this might somehow cause problems. Another interesting piece of data is the fact that although the widget stacks and standalones work perfectly here on my machine using Win XP Pro (SP1), I have Windows ME installed on the same machine, and the widgets don't run at all under Win ME! All kinds of crazy things occurred. For example, a simple call to a handler on card "Card3" from the stack script just caused everything to freeze. But before I go off and try to find other XP machines to test my widgets, I have a thought. I find it strange that you would have actually run the programs from Documents and Settings. In certain senses, this is a "special" folder that is protected in certain ways (but exactly how I can't really say). Please do me the favour of copying the the EXE and INI files to some other folder (e.g. C:\kentemp) and let me know if you still encounter the same problems. - Ken Ray wrote: On 1/17/06 11:41 AM, "Bob Warren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear Ken, Thanks very much indeed for the quick feedback. My hair began to stand on end at the bugs you seem to have found until I read the following: - Ken Ray wrote: For troubleshooting, I'm running WinXP Pro, SP2, and the path to the folder I downloaded and executed stuff from is: c:\Documents and >Desttings\Ken\Desktop\RunRev_Chooser_Widgets_DEMO_PACK_2 - I suspect that you might not have read "__readme.txt". Actually, I did, but... - The point is that the EXE files can be run from any folder, accompanied by their respective INI's. But if you run the DEMO stack, the default folder becomes that of Revolution itself, and the demo stack expects to find the widget EXEs in the same folder (i.e. that of Revolution). - Did you follow the instructions? If not, please try it. If so, please let me know as soon as you can so that I can look into the problems involved (somehow). Here, I am using WinXP Pro, SP1, and the widgets work perfectly in all respects. Actually I was not running the Rev file, but only the EXEs, which should work from any folder (as you identified). So unfortunately the bugs still stand. :-( 5) I really think it would be great to add a "resizable" option to the INI files, which would start at the predefined width/height, and allow the user at runtime to resize it if they wanted to. This is already in the pipeline for #2. Although the overall size of the widget can be changed through the INI file, the proportion of the widths of the left (folders) pane and the right (files) pane is fixed at 2/3:1/3. This may be more or less correct generically, but of course the convenience of this proportion depends heavily on the lengths of the user's folder names and file names! Another way of handling it would be to maintain the fixing of the overall window size in the INI file, but to allow the operator to drag the division between the left and right panes (e.g. as in the CHM-style RR Help). Or perhaps both would be better: allow the operator to re-size the window AND drag the division between the L-R panes. Agreed. - 6) I'd suggest making the INI files follow the real INI format (param=value), that way it eliminates potential issues with people wanting to change one param on line 5, but accidentally changing one on line 6. If you do that, you can use "split" to easily get the data into a readable form. I thought of doing it that way, but then decided against it. But I'm not being dogmatic about it. If you don't mind, I think I'll hang fire on that one for the moment until you get the existing version working and I see what the opinion of other users is. OK? Fine by me... - I have not received any Use_Revolution lists for over a day now, so I am not sure what feedback has/has not been published. I presume that you wrote to me off-list? Yes. I am sure you w
Re: File/Picture Chooser Widgets available for Windows XP
On 1/17/06 11:41 AM, "Bob Warren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Ken, > > Thanks very much indeed for the quick feedback. My hair began to stand > on end at the bugs you seem to have found until I read the following: > - > Ken Ray wrote: >> For troubleshooting, I'm running WinXP Pro, SP2, and the path to the >> folder I downloaded and executed stuff from is: > >> c:\Documents and >Desttings\Ken\Desktop\RunRev_Chooser_Widgets_DEMO_PACK_2 > > - > I suspect that you might not have read "__readme.txt". Actually, I did, but... > - > The point is that the EXE files can be run from any folder, accompanied > by their respective INI's. But if you run the DEMO stack, the default > folder becomes that of Revolution itself, and the demo stack expects to > find the widget EXEs in the same folder (i.e. that of Revolution). > - > Did you follow the instructions? If not, please try it. If so, please > let me know as soon as you can so that I can look into the problems > involved (somehow). Here, I am using WinXP Pro, SP1, and the widgets > work perfectly in all respects. Actually I was not running the Rev file, but only the EXEs, which should work from any folder (as you identified). So unfortunately the bugs still stand. :-( > >> 5) I really think it would be great to add a "resizable" option to > the INI >> files, which would start at the predefined width/height, and allow > the user >> at runtime to resize it if they wanted to. > > This is already in the pipeline for #2. > Although the overall size of the widget can be changed through the INI > file, the proportion of the widths of the left (folders) pane and the > right (files) pane is fixed at 2/3:1/3. This may be more or less correct > generically, but of course the convenience of this proportion depends > heavily on the lengths of the user's folder names and file names! > > Another way of handling it would be to maintain the fixing of the > overall window size in the INI file, but to allow the operator to drag > the division between the left and right panes (e.g. as in the CHM-style > RR Help). > > Or perhaps both would be better: allow the operator to re-size the > window AND drag the division between the L-R panes. Agreed. > - >> 6) I'd suggest making the INI files follow the real INI format >> (param=value), that way it eliminates potential issues with people > wanting >> to change one param on line 5, but accidentally changing one on line > 6. If >> you do that, you can use "split" to easily get the data into a readable >> form. > > I thought of doing it that way, but then decided against it. But I'm not > being dogmatic about it. If you don't mind, I think I'll hang fire on > that one for the moment until you get the existing version working and I > see what the opinion of other users is. OK? Fine by me... > - > I have not received any Use_Revolution lists for over a day now, so I am > not sure what feedback has/has not been published. I presume that you > wrote to me off-list? Yes. > I am sure you will not mind if I post this reply > to the List. Apart from stressing the importance of reading the README > file, I think the points you have raised would be of general interest. OK? Sure! > Once again, many thanks for your useful feedback (as always). No problem... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: File/Picture Chooser Widgets available for Windows XP
Dear Ken, Thanks very much indeed for the quick feedback. My hair began to stand on end at the bugs you seem to have found until I read the following: - Ken Ray wrote: >For troubleshooting, I'm running WinXP Pro, SP2, and the path to the >folder I downloaded and executed stuff from is: >c:\Documents and >Desttings\Ken\Desktop\RunRev_Chooser_Widgets_DEMO_PACK_2 - I suspect that you might not have read "__readme.txt". The relevant part is as follows: DEMO PACK The demo pack consists of the following files: 1) __readme.txt (this file) 2) _file_chooser.exe 3) _file_chooser.ini 4) _file_chooser_filters.ini 5) _picture_chooser.exe 6) _picture_chooser.ini 7) _picture_chooser_filters.ini 8) TEST_Launch_File_Choosers_Windows_46.rev You can copy the exe files to any folder and execute them. This will show you how the widgets run according to the defaults (i.e. with no ini parameter input). If you then copy the ini files to the same folder and after run the exe files, you can see how they run with an example set of ini parameters. To use TEST_Launch_File_Choosers_Windows_46.rev (8) above), copy files 2-7 to your Revolution folder (used as the default folder). You can then use this stack to alter all the ini parameters without effort and to launch the widgets to study the effects. - The point is that the EXE files can be run from any folder, accompanied by their respective INI's. But if you run the DEMO stack, the default folder becomes that of Revolution itself, and the demo stack expects to find the widget EXEs in the same folder (i.e. that of Revolution). - Did you follow the instructions? If not, please try it. If so, please let me know as soon as you can so that I can look into the problems involved (somehow). Here, I am using WinXP Pro, SP1, and the widgets work perfectly in all respects. > 5) I really think it would be great to add a "resizable" option to the INI > files, which would start at the predefined width/height, and allow the user > at runtime to resize it if they wanted to. This is already in the pipeline for #2. Although the overall size of the widget can be changed through the INI file, the proportion of the widths of the left (folders) pane and the right (files) pane is fixed at 2/3:1/3. This may be more or less correct generically, but of course the convenience of this proportion depends heavily on the lengths of the user's folder names and file names! Another way of handling it would be to maintain the fixing of the overall window size in the INI file, but to allow the operator to drag the division between the left and right panes (e.g. as in the CHM-style RR Help). Or perhaps both would be better: allow the operator to re-size the window AND drag the division between the L-R panes. - > 6) I'd suggest making the INI files follow the real INI format > (param=value), that way it eliminates potential issues with people wanting > to change one param on line 5, but accidentally changing one on line 6. If > you do that, you can use "split" to easily get the data into a readable > form. I thought of doing it that way, but then decided against it. But I'm not being dogmatic about it. If you don't mind, I think I'll hang fire on that one for the moment until you get the existing version working and I see what the opinion of other users is. OK? - I have not received any Use_Revolution lists for over a day now, so I am not sure what feedback has/has not been published. I presume that you wrote to me off-list? I am sure you will not mind if I post this reply to the List. Apart from stressing the importance of reading the README file, I think the points you have raised would be of general interest. OK? Once again, many thanks for your useful feedback (as always). Best regards, Bob - - Ken Ray wrote: > Bob, > > I took a look at your picture and file choosers - neat stuff! Just a couple > of bugs/quick suggestions: > > 1) It appears as though some of the settings in the INI file don't work (at > least for Picture Chooser). Turning off bold and Italic worked, as did > changing the drive letter, but nothing else seemed to. > > 2) When I changed the drive letter to d:, when the Picture Chooser came up, > it had both C: and D: highlighted. > > 3) The filters file for Picture Chooser didn't work either - it only > displayed "All Files" as an option in the filter popup, even
Re: Half-OT: I am not alone anymore (was Re: File/Picture Chooser Widgets available for Windows XP)
Hi Andre, We've "met" by e-mail before, but it was a long time ago and perhaps you don't remember because I was obliged to add a new e-mail service provider for the Use-Revolution lists ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). When RunRev upgraded their server last July, it couldn't manage to send stuff anymore to [EMAIL PROTECTED] My previous communications were from howsoft.com. Thanks for the kind offer of a Mac for testing purposes. That'll be great - when the time comes. As I said in the original thread, my main purpose is to produce the widgets for Linux. I don't know much about the Mac file system, but I imagine that once I have the Linux version in my hands, the adaption to Mac will be relatively easy. The conversion to Linux will take more than a few days though. These widgets are FAR from trivial, and it took me quite a few months to produce the Windows XP versions. Bear in mind though that I had never written a real Revolution app before. Now I've had a little practice in Rev, I just have to get used to Linux! The idea of a Brazilian Revolution User Group is an interesting idea, but if you don't mind I would like to leave it an open question at this very moment. There has been a lot of discussion on the Use-Revolution list recently about alternative/complementary user groups/forums etc. I didn't participate because I considered that few people seemed to appreciate the important concept of "good enough". The Use-Rev list has its drawbacks, but it also has some wonderful advantages. From a Brazilian point of view, I think that it is good because it forces users to try and communicate in English. That said though, it is easy for me because English is my mother tongue. And, taking into account that there may be quite a number of Brazilian RR users, we seem to be the only Brazilians participating on the U-R list But part of my motivation for not wanting to participate immediately in a Brazilian Revolution User Group is the question of time. I am an old man who thinks and works slowly, and at the moment I would prefer to serve Brazil by helping the country move towards Linux and actually producing some fundamental software for it. I live in Florianopolis, Santa Catarina, which as you know is a little island just off the coast. Have you ever been to Floripa? Who knows, one year RR might decide to hold one of their meetings here, preferably near one of the 40 odd beaches, but avoiding carnival time at the end of February on account of the flow of alcohol and the sight of the tiny bikinis which might be slightly distracting to the gringos! Best regards, Bob P.S. >I don't have a windows machine so I didn't saw your stacks, if you could point us to shots would be cool! If you are talking about screen shots, I have not yet had time to document the widgets properly at my site. However, very soon I hope to correct this and to provide the necessary screenshots. I'll let you know when it's ready. - Andre Garzia wrote: Oi Bob, I see by your mail that you're also in Brazil, good! I always wondered if I was the only brazilian on the list. I have a mac, so I can test your stuff if you need. I don't have a windows machine so I didn't saw your stacks, if you could point us to shots would be cool! cheers, Be welcome! Should we create Brazilian Revolution User Group? Andre On Jan 16, 2006, at 4:17 PM, Bob Warren wrote: Thereafter, if the demand exists, we can look into the problem of producing versions for MAC - facilitated by the existence of the Linux versions. Unfortunately, I don't possess a Macintosh computer, nor am I likely to on account of their very high price in Brazil. But first things first, let's see if you think the widgets are worth developing further! Best, Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Half-OT: I am not alone anymore (was Re: File/Picture Chooser Widgets available for Windows XP)
Oi Bob, I see by your mail that you're also in Brazil, good! I always wondered if I was the only brazilian on the list. I have a mac, so I can test your stuff if you need. I don't have a windows machine so I didn't saw your stacks, if you could point us to shots would be cool! cheers, Be welcome! Should we create Brazilian Revolution User Group? Andre On Jan 16, 2006, at 4:17 PM, Bob Warren wrote: Thereafter, if the demand exists, we can look into the problem of producing versions for MAC - facilitated by the existence of the Linux versions. Unfortunately, I don't possess a Macintosh computer, nor am I likely to on account of their very high price in Brazil. But first things first, let's see if you think the widgets are worth developing further! Best, Bob ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
