RE: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
Peter, I used MCI with MetaCard a long time ago and it worked; it allows you to play from a position to another position, so it may be a good approach for you. Scott Rossi has a reference at his site: http://www.tactilemedia.com/info/MCI_Control_Info.html Although this doesn't help on the Mac... Ken Ray Thanks for the link Ken. Do you have any simple MC/Rev coding examples of the use of this stuff? Also, do you know if the linked document is still reliable (for current Windows) given that it is dated 1991 and refers to OS/2 as well as Windows?! I'm OK with the Mac side as I simply use the Rev QT facilities. I switch the code according to current platform during execution - if Win do this otherwise to that! This works fine as long as the overall approach is broadly the same, i.e. a video clip viewing area within a Rev window. However, if I were to use altBrowser that Chipp mentions, then the interface model changes significantly, with the Mac and Win user interfaces being significantly different. In this case, I'd rather switch to the browser model for both platforms since they would then remain essentially the same. I'd need a Mac version of altBrowser in order to do this of course! Regards Peter -- Peter Reid Reid-IT Limited, Loughborough, Leics., UK Tel: +44 (0)1509 268843 Fax: +44 (0)8700 527576 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.reidit.co.uk http://www.reidit.demon.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
At 08:31 10.03.2004 +, you wrote: Peter, I used MCI with MetaCard a long time ago and it worked; it allows you to play from a position to another position, so it may be a good approach for you. Scott Rossi has a reference at his site: http://www.tactilemedia.com/info/MCI_Control_Info.html Although this doesn't help on the Mac... Ken Ray Thanks for the link Ken. Do you have any simple MC/Rev coding examples of the use of this stuff? Also, do you know if the linked document is still reliable (for current Windows) given that it is dated 1991 and refers to OS/2 as well as Windows?! I use mci to record and play audio (wave files) on Windows XP using MC. It still works perfectly in 2004. In MC you use get mciSendString() For instance: put open quote orglyd quote type waveaudio alias myAudio into tstring get mciSendString(tstring) get mciSendString (status myAudio length) There are two stacks in the Developers area: mciSendString and mciMidi. These may put you on the right track. Signe Marie Sanne 1. amanuensis Signe Marie Sanne e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Romansk Institutttel: +47 55 58 21 27 Øisteins gt. 1 5007 Bergen http://www.hf.uib.no/hfolk/mlab/hjem/default.html Norway ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
I use mci to record and play audio (wave files) on Windows XP using MC. It still works perfectly in 2004. In MC you use get mciSendString() For instance: put open quote orglyd quote type waveaudio alias myAudio into tstring get mciSendString(tstring) get mciSendString (status myAudio length) There are two stacks in the Developers area: mciSendString and mciMidi. These may put you on the right track. Signe Marie Sanne Thanks Signe. Please could you give me the link to the developers area, it's so long since I've been to the MC site, I don't have the link anymore and it's not referenced directly on the site itself! Regards Peter -- Peter Reid Reid-IT Limited, Loughborough, Leics., UK Tel: +44 (0)1509 268843 Fax: +44 (0)8700 527576 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.reidit.co.uk http://www.reidit.demon.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
At 10:44 10.03.2004 +, you wrote: I use mci to record and play audio (wave files) on Windows XP using MC. It still works perfectly in 2004. In MC you use get mciSendString() For instance: put open quote orglyd quote type waveaudio alias myAudio into tstring get mciSendString(tstring) get mciSendString (status myAudio length) There are two stacks in the Developers area: mciSendString and mciMidi. These may put you on the right track. Signe Marie Sanne Thanks Signe. Please could you give me the link to the developers area, it's so long since I've been to the MC site, I don't have the link anymore and it's not referenced directly on the site itself! Actually I wanted to provide the links for you, but did not find them. However, using Go_RevNet under Web Links I found this one: http://www.flexiblelearning.com/xtalk.htm. Look under Utilities. I also have a stack MCIRecorder, can't remember where I found it. Perhaps someone else on the list may help us. 1. amanuensis Signe Marie Sanne e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Romansk Institutttel: +47 55 58 21 27 Øisteins gt. 1 5007 Bergen http://www.hf.uib.no/hfolk/mlab/hjem/default.html Norway ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
The problem we have is corporate clients who don't want to install ANYTHING on their workstations in order to run training packages with multimedia content! Thus they say it's OK as long as it uses the standard media facilities in Windows!! Given the variations in Windows standards for media, this is nothing short of a joke, but it's what they say! On a windows computer, you are sure that Internet Explorer AND the Flash plugin are installed, they are standard media facilities in windows. I dont remember exactly, but i believe that Internet Explorer is delivered with Flash plugin 4. You have to check that by your customers. If you use altBrowser.dll from altuit, you can display a flash movie within a html page directly in Revolution. For me it works perfectly. I use altBrowser to replace the player object and sometime even the field object (when i need a better typographical layout than with a field but i dont need interactivity with the content of the field). You have nothing to install, just reference the dll in your stack and deliver the dll in the same folder as your stack. Of course the interactivity must be programmed in the flash movie because there is no communication between the flash movie and your stack. Claude ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
Hi Claude Thanks for the suggestion. On a windows computer, you are sure that Internet Explorer AND the Flash plugin are installed, they are standard media facilities in windows. I dont remember exactly, but i believe that Internet Explorer is delivered with Flash plugin 4. You have to check that by your customers. True, this is what I mean about the standard Windows install - it isn't standard and is likely to be an old version!! If you use altBrowser.dll from altuit, you can display a flash movie within a html page directly in Revolution. For me it works perfectly. I use altBrowser to replace the player object and sometime even the field object (when i need a better typographical layout than with a field but i dont need interactivity with the content of the field). You have nothing to install, just reference the dll in your stack and deliver the dll in the same folder as your stack. Of course the interactivity must be programmed in the flash movie because there is no communication between the flash movie and your stack. Claude Thanks for the tip. However, I'd need a Mac version as well (which is under consideration, but NOT under development as far as I know). Also, it's not clear how much it would cost to deploy a single program to many 100s of users at a corporate client location, would this cost me $30/$45 per seat? The web page: http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/altBrowser.htm doesn't really give such licensing details. Cheers Peter -- Peter Reid Reid-IT Limited, Loughborough, Leics., UK Tel: +44 (0)1509 268843 Fax: +44 (0)8700 527576 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.reidit.co.uk http://www.reidit.demon.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
On 3/9/04 1:48 AM, Peter Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want my clips to appear within a Rev window with other components on display, not as part of a separate floating window/app. Also, I would need to get agreement to install the Flash Player as a separate app anyway. But the main point is that I want the video clips as part of my app not separate to it. I don't understand -- Flash displays video, so why would your clips have to be separate from your app? http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/productinfo/features/static_tour/me dia/index.html#03 Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Development Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
I don't understand -- Flash displays video, so why would your clips have to be separate from your app? http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/productinfo/features/static_tour/me dia/index.html#03 Regards, Scott Rossi As I understand it, I'd have to launch the Flash standalone player in order to play Flash clips from Rev. Rev itself ONLY supports Flash IF you have QuickTime, which is my problem - corporate world's total aversion to installing QuickTime!! If I launch a separate player then is can appear anywhere on screen obscuring my Rev window and I can't control it or determine its progress. Also, if you play a Flash file (swf) directly from Rev, you can't control it in the same way as a QT file - no easy stop/start/drag etc. However if you make a QT file with an EMBEDDED Flash track, then you get the benefits of Flash with the controllability of QT! This works VERY well. I have a single QT clip with three embedded tracks - Flash video, QT sound, QT text caption. I can now enable/disable any of these to provide whatever combination is required. Unfortunately all this good stuff ONLY works with QT, which my corporate clients won't install!! Cheers Peter -- Peter Reid Reid-IT Limited, Loughborough, Leics., UK Tel: +44 (0)1509 268843 Fax: +44 (0)8700 527576 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.reidit.co.uk http://www.reidit.demon.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
I don't understand -- Flash displays video, so why would your clips have to be separate from your app? http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/productinfo/features/static_tour/me dia/index.html#03 As I understand it, I'd have to launch the Flash standalone player in order to play Flash clips from Rev. Rev itself ONLY supports Flash IF you have QuickTime, which is my problem - corporate world's total aversion to installing QuickTime!! If I launch a separate player then is can appear anywhere on screen obscuring my Rev window and I can't control it or determine its progress. OK but what I'm saying is, if you're at the mercy of your corporate client, why not create the entire set of media and deliver in Flash, using one (Flash) player. Sure it might be easier to use Rev, but from what you're describing it sounds like that's not an option for you. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Development Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
OK but what I'm saying is, if you're at the mercy of your corporate client, why not create the entire set of media and deliver in Flash, using one (Flash) player. Sure it might be easier to use Rev, but from what you're describing it sounds like that's not an option for you. Regards, Scott Rossi The main app has quizzes and questionnaires, data written back to a corporate database, printing of certificates and feedback forms etc, password controlled user access with use look-up from corporate database, user tracking over years, etc. So the video clips are just a part of the product, the rest of which definitely needs Rev-type capabilities - straight Flash isn't good enough for everything, only the media stuff. I just wish I could get past the corporate white stick that stops them seeing anything other than vanilla Microsoft stuff! I haven't completely dismissed the idea of a floating media window using the standalone Flash player, but it's definitely not my first choice and will be a much harder sell to the client who's funding this product development! Cheers Peter -- Peter Reid Reid-IT Limited, Loughborough, Leics., UK Tel: +44 (0)1509 268843 Fax: +44 (0)8700 527576 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.reidit.co.uk http://www.reidit.demon.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
Thanks for the tip. However, I'd need a Mac version as well (which is under consideration, but NOT under development as far as I know). Hi Peter, Yes, you are correct. Unfortunately, there is not a Mac version at this time. We're hoping to have the browser embedded into the RR engine in a future release. No timetable set yet. Also, it's not clear how much it would cost to deploy a single program to many 100s of users at a corporate client location, would this cost me $30/$45 per seat? The web page: http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/altBrowser.htm doesn't really give such licensing details. That's my fault. With altBrowser, you pay only once and you can distribute it with any of your standalones as many times as you like royalty free. The only thing we ask is you not 'resell' it to other developers -- they should purchase their own copy:-) I need to put a real license up there. best, Chipp Cheers Peter ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
That's my fault. With altBrowser, you pay only once and you can distribute it with any of your standalones as many times as you like royalty free. The only thing we ask is you not 'resell' it to other developers -- they should purchase their own copy:-) I need to put a real license up there. best, Chipp Thanks Chipp, that makes it clear, all I need now is a Mac version ;) Best regards Peter -- Peter Reid Reid-IT Limited, Loughborough, Leics., UK Tel: +44 (0)1509 268843 Fax: +44 (0)8700 527576 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.reidit.co.uk http://www.reidit.demon.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
Has anyone had any success using the MCISendString feature of Rev to control playback of a videoclip under Win without using QuickTime? Peter, I used MCI with MetaCard a long time ago and it worked; it allows you to play from a position to another position, so it may be a good approach for you. Scott Rossi has a reference at his site: http://www.tactilemedia.com/info/MCI_Control_Info.html Although this doesn't help on the Mac... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
--- Claude Lemmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you use altBrowser.dll from altuit, you can display a flash movie within a html page directly in Revolution. For me it works perfectly. any duration constraints on the video? = [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
On 3/9/04 4:51 PM, Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, I used MCI with MetaCard a long time ago and it worked; it allows you to play from a position to another position, so it may be a good approach for you. Scott Rossi has a reference at his site: http://www.tactilemedia.com/info/MCI_Control_Info.html Although this doesn't help on the Mac... But yet, one doesn't need to worry about lack of QuickTime on a Mac... :-) Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Development Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
If you use altBrowser.dll from altuit, you can display a flash movie within a html page directly in Revolution. For me it works perfectly. any duration constraints on the video? I did not test. But as Flash streams the video, i guess that there is no constrain about the length of the video. The constrain is that you have to open in the same time the Rev engine, the IExplorer engine and the Flash engine. That works well on standard computer, but i could be difficult on computers very low on memory. Claude ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AVI/WMV Playback Control?
As far as I know, control over video is pretty minimal if you don't use QT so I don't believe you can do what you want without QT. I may be wrong but I've run into the same issue you describe. Regards, Scott Rossi Hmm, thanks Scott for the feedback. Has anyone had any success using the MCISendString feature of Rev to control playback of a videoclip under Win without using QuickTime? All I'm looking for is simple stop/start/pause, go to start/end, and drag positioning. With my current set up I have a to-start, to-end and play/pause buttons together with a scrollbar that shows current position during playback and allows me to drag to any position from start to end but NOT restart at the dragged position. Cheers Peter -- Peter Reid Reid-IT Limited, Loughborough, Leics., UK Tel: +44 (0)1509 268843 Fax: +44 (0)8700 527576 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.reidit.co.uk http://www.reidit.demon.co.uk ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
