Re: Bug or new feature? - It's A Big Bug!

2005-06-08 Thread Richard Gaskin

Ken Ray wrote:

On 6/7/05 8:09 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Ken, Eric,
I have not moved to 2.6, and this would be enough reason not to do so.
Does the following also fail in 2.6?

on mouseUp (or some other command)
ask 
if the result is "Cancel" then exit mouseUp (or whatever command)
continueDoingStuff
end mouseUp



Yes, it fails. The reason is that the result is now empty and not the string
"cancel", so code like this (and code like I use) would not match the 'if'
check.

I hope RunRev fixes this in 2.6.1...


I read a report from Ivan Aufulich in which he said the Ministry of
Woolen Underwear has received a mandate from the Kremlin to use actual 
wool in their undergarments.  It seems Pravda wrote strongly about the 
papyrus debacle, in which some in the Ministry felt they could meet 
unmeetable deadlines by taking advantage of their special relationship 
with oil-producing nations, using papyrus instead of wool. Can we say 
itch?  A member of the Duma has leaked a memo to Ivan saying "The 
Siberians will have a warmer summer," which of course is Kremlinspeak 
for "The problem will be corrected and the people will no longer itch." 
 Ivan's report included a reference to "the duck is being cooked, and 
already it's savory", which this reporter took to mean he has obtained 
one of the new woolen undergarments through circuitous channels and is 
now more comfortable.



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Re: Bug or new feature? - It's A Big Bug!

2005-06-07 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 6/7/05 8:43 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:


Dennis Brown wrote:


On Jun 7, 2005, at 9:29 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:

Of course my scripts are failing also.  I write a lot of "if it is  
empty then exit mouseUp"


I traced through this and found that the it variable appeared to be  
empty after I hit Cancel.  However, the if empty would fail.  When  I 
manually select the contents of the it variable in the variable  
watcher and delete, the test succeeds.  So the it variable is being  
set to something that looks empty, but isn't.


This is critical! I would expect RunRev to have a fix for this in  
the next 24 hours!  This might point to why I have been  experiencing 
not so nice behavior in the IDE.  Back to 2.5 untill  the 2.6.1 version.


 >
 > Is there a different, parallel path to notify RunRev of something a
 > serious as this so they can get started on it right away?

Anyone try an email to Tech Support?



Argh. Don't -- you will just get me, and I will have to tell you to 
bug-report it.


But don't worry. Mark W is reading the list (as I am) and he keen to 
clean up this sort of thing. USAians should remember that it is the dead 
of night over in Scotland right now. I'll ask Mark tomorrow if he saw this.


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Re: Bug or new feature? - It's A Big Bug!

2005-06-07 Thread Brian Yennie

FWIW:

ask "?"
put (it is empty)
put length(it)&&charToNum(it)

Reveals that hitting cancels returns a string with length of 1, but a 
null byte.

Even testing "char 1 of it" gives this same nasty 1-byte nothing!

Sounds to me like someone stomped on the length pointer for "it" in the 
engine when they return from that ask dialog...


- Brian


Dennis Brown wrote:
It says don't send them bugs, but you can pay big buck to get help  
from them. I am not one of the big buck guys --just DreamCard.


My bad.  I forgot about the support limitations.

I just forwarded the thread

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Dennis
On Jun 7, 2005, at 9:43 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:

Dennis Brown wrote:


On Jun 7, 2005, at 9:29 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:

Of course my scripts are failing also.  I write a lot of "if it  
is  empty then exit mouseUp"


I traced through this and found that the it variable appeared to  
be  empty after I hit Cancel.  However, the if empty would fail.   
When  I manually select the contents of the it variable in the  
variable  watcher and delete, the test succeeds.  So the it  
variable is being  set to something that looks empty, but isn't.


This is critical! I would expect RunRev to have a fix for this  in 
 the next 24 hours!  This might point to why I have been   
experiencing not so nice behavior in the IDE.  Back to 2.5  untill 
 the 2.6.1 version.



>
> Is there a different, parallel path to notify RunRev of something a
> serious as this so they can get started on it right away?

Anyone try an email to Tech Support?


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Re: Bug or new feature? - It's A Big Bug!

2005-06-07 Thread Richard Gaskin

Dennis Brown wrote:
It says don't send them bugs, but you can pay big buck to get help  from 
them. I am not one of the big buck guys --just DreamCard.


My bad.  I forgot about the support limitations.

I just forwarded the thread

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Dennis

On Jun 7, 2005, at 9:43 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:


Dennis Brown wrote:


On Jun 7, 2005, at 9:29 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:

Of course my scripts are failing also.  I write a lot of "if it  is  
empty then exit mouseUp"


I traced through this and found that the it variable appeared to  
be  empty after I hit Cancel.  However, the if empty would fail.   
When  I manually select the contents of the it variable in the  
variable  watcher and delete, the test succeeds.  So the it  
variable is being  set to something that looks empty, but isn't.


This is critical! I would expect RunRev to have a fix for this  in  
the next 24 hours!  This might point to why I have been   
experiencing not so nice behavior in the IDE.  Back to 2.5  untill  
the 2.6.1 version.



>
> Is there a different, parallel path to notify RunRev of something a
> serious as this so they can get started on it right away?

Anyone try an email to Tech Support?


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Re: Bug or new feature? - It's A Big Bug!

2005-06-07 Thread Dennis Brown
It says don't send them bugs, but you can pay big buck to get help  
from them. I am not one of the big buck guys --just DreamCard.


Dennis

On Jun 7, 2005, at 9:43 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:


Dennis Brown wrote:


On Jun 7, 2005, at 9:29 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:

Of course my scripts are failing also.  I write a lot of "if it  
is  empty then exit mouseUp"


I traced through this and found that the it variable appeared to  
be  empty after I hit Cancel.  However, the if empty would fail.   
When  I manually select the contents of the it variable in the  
variable  watcher and delete, the test succeeds.  So the it  
variable is being  set to something that looks empty, but isn't.


This is critical! I would expect RunRev to have a fix for this  
in  the next 24 hours!  This might point to why I have been   
experiencing not so nice behavior in the IDE.  Back to 2.5  
untill  the 2.6.1 version.



>
> Is there a different, parallel path to notify RunRev of something a
> serious as this so they can get started on it right away?

Anyone try an email to Tech Support?

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Re: Bug or new feature? - It's A Big Bug!

2005-06-07 Thread Richard Gaskin

Dennis Brown wrote:

On Jun 7, 2005, at 9:29 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:

Of course my scripts are failing also.  I write a lot of "if it is  
empty then exit mouseUp"


I traced through this and found that the it variable appeared to be  
empty after I hit Cancel.  However, the if empty would fail.  When  I 
manually select the contents of the it variable in the variable  
watcher and delete, the test succeeds.  So the it variable is being  
set to something that looks empty, but isn't.


This is critical! I would expect RunRev to have a fix for this in  the 
next 24 hours!  This might point to why I have been  experiencing not 
so nice behavior in the IDE.  Back to 2.5 untill  the 2.6.1 version.

>
> Is there a different, parallel path to notify RunRev of something a
> serious as this so they can get started on it right away?

Anyone try an email to Tech Support?

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Re: Bug or new feature? - It's A Big Bug!

2005-06-07 Thread Dennis Brown
Is there a different, parallel path to notify RunRev of something a  
serious as this so they can get started on it right away?


Dennis

On Jun 7, 2005, at 9:29 PM, Dennis Brown wrote:

Of course my scripts are failing also.  I write a lot of "if it is  
empty then exit mouseUp"


I traced through this and found that the it variable appeared to be  
empty after I hit Cancel.  However, the if empty would fail.  When  
I manually select the contents of the it variable in the variable  
watcher and delete, the test succeeds.  So the it variable is being  
set to something that looks empty, but isn't.


This is critical! I would expect RunRev to have a fix for this in  
the next 24 hours!  This might point to why I have been  
experiencing not so nice behavior in the IDE.  Back to 2.5 untill  
the 2.6.1 version.


Dennis

On Jun 7, 2005, at 9:02 PM, Ken Ray wrote:



On 6/7/05 1:23 PM, "Éric Miclo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





on myCommand
   ask question "What do you look for?" as sheet
   if it is empty or the result is "Cancel" or the result is  
empty then

 do nothing
   else
 do something
   end if
end myCommand

In my opinion, after having a sight at the documentation, it is a
bug. Am I wrong?




No, Eric, you're right! And this is a bug that will probably bite  
a lot of

people (including me)...

I can't tell you how many places I've said stuff like:

  ask 
  if the result is not "Cancel" then
put it into tString

  end if

NOW, this will totally fail. It of course works properly in 2.5.1,  
so it's
definitely a 2.6 bug. Eric, if you don't log it in Bugzilla let me  
know and

I'll log it. Please mark it as "severe".

Thanks,

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
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Re: Bug or new feature? - It's A Big Bug!

2005-06-07 Thread Dennis Brown
Of course my scripts are failing also.  I write a lot of "if it is  
empty then exit mouseUp"


I traced through this and found that the it variable appeared to be  
empty after I hit Cancel.  However, the if empty would fail.  When I  
manually select the contents of the it variable in the variable  
watcher and delete, the test succeeds.  So the it variable is being  
set to something that looks empty, but isn't.


This is critical! I would expect RunRev to have a fix for this in the  
next 24 hours!  This might point to why I have been experiencing not  
so nice behavior in the IDE.  Back to 2.5 untill the 2.6.1 version.


Dennis

On Jun 7, 2005, at 9:02 PM, Ken Ray wrote:


On 6/7/05 1:23 PM, "Éric Miclo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




on myCommand
   ask question "What do you look for?" as sheet
   if it is empty or the result is "Cancel" or the result is empty  
then

 do nothing
   else
 do something
   end if
end myCommand

In my opinion, after having a sight at the documentation, it is a
bug. Am I wrong?



No, Eric, you're right! And this is a bug that will probably bite a  
lot of

people (including me)...

I can't tell you how many places I've said stuff like:

  ask 
  if the result is not "Cancel" then
put it into tString

  end if

NOW, this will totally fail. It of course works properly in 2.5.1,  
so it's
definitely a 2.6 bug. Eric, if you don't log it in Bugzilla let me  
know and

I'll log it. Please mark it as "severe".

Thanks,

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: Bug or new feature? - It's A Big Bug!

2005-06-07 Thread Ken Ray
On 6/7/05 8:09 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ken, Eric,
>  I have not moved to 2.6, and this would be enough reason not to do so.
> Does the following also fail in 2.6?
> 
> on mouseUp (or some other command)
>  ask 
>  if the result is "Cancel" then exit mouseUp (or whatever command)
>  continueDoingStuff
> end mouseUp

Yes, it fails. The reason is that the result is now empty and not the string
"cancel", so code like this (and code like I use) would not match the 'if'
check.

I hope RunRev fixes this in 2.6.1...


Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
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Re: Bug or new feature? - It's A Big Bug!

2005-06-07 Thread SimPLsol
Ken, Eric,
 I have not moved to 2.6, and this would be enough reason not to do so. 
Does the following also fail in 2.6?

on mouseUp (or some other command)
 ask 
 if the result is "Cancel" then exit mouseUp (or whatever command)
 continueDoingStuff
end mouseUp

Thanks for the warning.
Paul Looney
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Re: Bug or new feature? - It's A Big Bug!

2005-06-07 Thread Ken Ray
On 6/7/05 1:23 PM, "Éric Miclo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> on myCommand
>ask question "What do you look for?" as sheet
>if it is empty or the result is "Cancel" or the result is empty then
>  do nothing
>else
>  do something
>end if
> end myCommand
> 
> In my opinion, after having a sight at the documentation, it is a
> bug. Am I wrong?

No, Eric, you're right! And this is a bug that will probably bite a lot of
people (including me)...

I can't tell you how many places I've said stuff like:

  ask 
  if the result is not "Cancel" then
put it into tString

  end if

NOW, this will totally fail. It of course works properly in 2.5.1, so it's
definitely a 2.6 bug. Eric, if you don't log it in Bugzilla let me know and
I'll log it. Please mark it as "severe".

Thanks,

Ken Ray
Sons of Thunder Software
Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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