Re: Who is chuck yeager? (OT)
This seems like the perfect opportunity to extoll the virtues of a web site I found recently: http://www.tinyurl.com It's a free site that takes long urls and provides a permanent redirect based on a much shorter url. You just paste the long url into the form, hit submit, and out pops the short alternative. So, for example, the picture linked below can now also be reached at: http://tinyurl.com/6hog5 It's one of those things that in retrospect seems so obvious. regards, Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sep 4, 2004, at 3:39 PM, Ken Norris (dialup) wrote: I reckon you guys have seen this famous picture of a F-18 Hornet. Once-in-a-lifetime shot, eh (watch linewraps)? http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/ships/carriers/constellation/con- sndbar .jpg Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Who is chuck yeager? (OT)
At 10:40 05/09/2004 -0700, Geoff Canyon wrote: This seems like the perfect opportunity to extoll the virtues of a web site I found recently: http://www.tinyurl.com It's a free site that takes long urls and provides a permanent redirect based on a much shorter url. You just paste the long url into the form, hit submit, and out pops the short alternative. So, for example, the picture linked below can now also be reached at: http://tinyurl.com/6hog5 It's one of those things that in retrospect seems so obvious. There's also snipurl.com They do the same thing, but allow you to choose a meaningful short url to use - much nicer, imho. But please, do also put the real url into any email, so that if those services disappear sometime in the future, the archive still allows readers to reach the site you want. -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Who is chuck yeager? (OT)
On Sunday, September 5, 2004, at 10:40 AM, Geoff Canyon wrote: http://tinyurl.com/6hog5 It's one of those things that in retrospect seems so obvious. regards, Geoff Canyon Yes. The birthing process of the F-18 Hornet hatching from its egg is one of the most amazing phenomenon's of nature. mb ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Wow, even better! regards, Geoff Canyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sep 5, 2004, at 11:33 AM, Alex Tweedly wrote: There's also snipurl.com They do the same thing, but allow you to choose a meaningful short url to use - much nicer, imho. But please, do also put the real url into any email, so that if those services disappear sometime in the future, the archive still allows readers to reach the site you want. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Hi Eric, Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 11:22:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Eric Engle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Who is chuck yeager? (OT) The jet you are refering to is the Me-262 (messerschmitt): it was not the only high speed jet aircraft, however it was the most reliable and produced in the greatest quantity. In fact, it was also the first jet to break the speed of sound. The first few pilots who had the misfortune to do so however were unable to recover control of their aircraft. Consequently, the german air force strictly forbade flying the 262 beyond certain speeds - also because high speed flight induced metal fatigue. However Hans Guido Mutke did break the speed of sound and survived to tell the tale. Here http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schallmauer I'd love to read it. Is it available in English? I guess it's a control issue, like with the Wright Bros. They weren't the first to fly a heavier-than-air powered aircraft, but they were the first to be able to control one in sustained flight. Just for fun: The Wright Bros. were credited with another important, albeit less notable, invention. What was it? Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Who is chuck yeager? (OT)
I reckon you guys have seen this famous picture of a F-18 Hornet. Once-in-a-lifetime shot, eh (watch linewraps)? http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/ships/carriers/constellation/con-sndbar .jpg Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Hi Mark, Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 15:55:50 -0700 From: Mark Brownell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Who is chuck yeager? (OT) then again I might just be kidding again. ;-) I wonder what the park rangers had to say about that. Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Hi Mark, Subject: Re: Who is chuck yeager? (OT) To: How to use Revolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, and one more historical item. I think he was the only fighter pilot at the end of WWII to shoot down the famous German jet from a piston-engine propellered aircraft (a P-51). So What? :-) Nearly impossible because it was very advanced for its time, and faster than any other manned aircraft. It wasn't heavily armed and had a short range, but it could outrun anything. But quality metals had become unavailable and fuel was a problem. A few years earlier and who knows? It's waaay off topic though, and I'd rather meet some people on this list than him anyway. So there. Take that ;-) Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Who is chuck yeager? (OT)
The jet you are refering to is the Me-262 (messerschmitt): it was not the only high speed jet aircraft, however it was the most reliable and produced in the greatest quantity. In fact, it was also the first jet to break the speed of sound. The first few pilots who had the misfortune to do so however were unable to recover control of their aircraft. Consequently, the german air force strictly forbade flying the 262 beyond certain speeds - also because high speed flight induced metal fatigue. However Hans Guido Mutke did break the speed of sound and survived to tell the tale. Here http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schallmauer Mutke died very recently (http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/0,1518,295132,00.html) http://hans-guido-mutke.wikiverse.org/ ___ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Who is chuck yeager? (OT)
On Friday, September 3, 2004, at 11:22 AM, Eric Engle wrote: However Hans Guido Mutke did break the speed of sound and survived to tell the tale. Here http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schallmauer Hans Guido Mutke claimed to have broken the sound barrier before Yeager, on April 9, 1945 in a Messerschmitt Me 262. However, this claim is disputed by most experts and lacks a scientific foundation. Interesting. The only way they could have done that is by diving the plane. The jet engines where tested at length after the war and the Me 262 never had the power to drag ratio to reach the speed of sound. The plane also did not have a proper elevator control for supersonic flight. This was also a problem with the first Russian Migs. Now mention the Messerschmitt Me 163 rocket fighter and you are talking about the ride of the century. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On Friday, September 3, 2004, at 11:02 AM, Ken Norris (dialup) wrote: So What? :-) Nearly impossible because it was very advanced for its time, and faster than any other manned aircraft. It wasn't heavily armed and had a short range, but it could outrun anything. But quality metals had become unavailable and fuel was a problem. A few years earlier and who knows? Well the Tuskeegee Airmen are claiming three of the five that got shot down and another website says that more than 120 of them where shot down during the war. I'm impressed that there are several claims out there. It's waaay off topic though, and I'd rather meet some people on this list than him anyway. So there. Take that ;-) Ken N. I'm not sure you would want to meet me or not. I have a sense of humor that often surprises people at times. Once, by navigating through a storm I worked my way on top of Half Dome in Yosemite in a stunt plane. A passenger/friend when answering yes to Would you like to go down there? dropped his teeth through the roof of his head when I dropped the right wing and proceeded to dive down the face of Half Dome ten feet away from the face. Having been a rock-climber for more than ten years back then I wanted to see what a falling climber would see after cutting loose during a equipment failure. The fun part was pulling out over mirror lake/meadows with a prop tips that were definitely breaking the sound barrier and then climbing strait up the east side of Washington's Column... then again I might just be kidding again. mb ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Hi Ken, Hi Klaus, Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 20:03:59 +0200 From: Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Who is chuck yeager? Hi Marian, Famous (and highly daring) fighter jock/test pilot... a key figure in the movie The Right Stuff. Actually, the most important achievment of Chuck Yeager, and for which he is most well known, is that he was the _first_ pilot to break the sound barrier. He did it on October 14, 1947, in an experimental mission-specific rocket-powered aircraft called the X-1, built by Bell Aviation, which was mounted to, and launched from, the belly of a B-29. He named it Glamorous Glennis II after his wife (the first Glamorous Glennis was a P-51 Mustang) Ah, yes, i remember the X-1 and the sound barrier... But not the name Chuck Yeager... (Sorry Mark ;-) At the time, he was purported to have had a dislocated shoulder, but he knew the flight surgeon would ground him, so he didn't report it, made the flight in a lot of pain. Oh my god! He's a hero! In 1990, while I was in the Civil Air Patrol, Lake Tahoe Sqdn, I met him in person at an aerospace education conference (10,000 teachers, high-ranking NASA, FAA, USAF personnel, and other 'living legend' historical figures in aviation) which lasted three days in Reno, Nevada. I consider it a priviledge. Oh, and one more historical item. I think he was the only fighter pilot at the end of WWII to shoot down the famous German jet from a piston-engine propellered aircraft (a P-51). Thank you for this one, very compassionate! :-D Ken N. Regards Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Hi Mark, On Wednesday, September 1, 2004, at 05:17 PM, Ken Norris (dialup) wrote: Actually, the most important achievment of Chuck Yeager, and for which he is most well known, is that he was the _first_ pilot to break the sound barrier. He did it on October 14, 1947, in an experimental mission-specific rocket-powered aircraft called the X-1, built by Bell Aviation, which was mounted to, and launched from, the belly of a B-29. He named it Glamorous Glennis II after his wife (the first Glamorous Glennis was a P-51 Mustang) At the time, he was purported to have had a dislocated shoulder, but he knew the flight surgeon would ground him, so he didn't report it, made the flight in a lot of pain. In 1990, while I was in the Civil Air Patrol, Lake Tahoe Sqdn, I met him in person at an aerospace education conference (10,000 teachers, high-ranking NASA, FAA, USAF personnel, and other 'living legend' historical figures in aviation) which lasted three days in Reno, Nevada. I consider it a priviledge. Oh, and one more historical item. I think he was the only fighter pilot at the end of WWII to shoot down the famous German jet from a piston-engine propellered aircraft (a P-51). Ken N. So What? :-) Oh, c'mon, you started this :-D Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On Thursday, September 2, 2004, at 01:04 AM, Klaus Major wrote: At the time, he was purported to have had a dislocated shoulder, but he knew the flight surgeon would ground him, so he didn't report it, made the flight in a lot of pain. Oh my god! He's a hero! In 1990, while I was in the Civil Air Patrol, Lake Tahoe Sqdn, I met him in person at an aerospace education conference (10,000 teachers, high-ranking NASA, FAA, USAF personnel, and other 'living legend' historical figures in aviation) which lasted three days in Reno, Nevada. I consider it a priviledge. Oh, and one more historical item. I think he was the only fighter pilot at the end of WWII to shoot down the famous German jet from a piston-engine propellered aircraft (a P-51). Thank you for this one, very compassionate! :-D Ken N. Regards Klaus Major Hilarious ! Chuck Yeager, scourge of the mighty Luftwaffa. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On Thursday, September 2, 2004, at 01:07 AM, Klaus Major wrote: Oh, c'mon, you started this :-D Best Klaus Major I just woke up, so if I remember correctly, I answered a who is Chuck Yeager question brought up by you asking about what someone else had said here using Chuck Yeager as an export in the metaphor of flying instructor or aviator. Shot down another German Ace, tack-A, tack-A, tack-A, tack-A, tack-A, tack-A... :-) Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Hi Mark, ... Hilarious ! Chuck Yeager, scourge of the mighty Luftwaffa. Yes, haha, actually it is Luftwaffel ehm Luftwaffe :-D Mark Best Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.major-k.de ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Who is chuck yeager? (OT)
Hi Klaus, Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 20:03:59 +0200 From: Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Who is chuck yeager? Hi Marian, Famous (and highly daring) fighter jock/test pilot... a key figure in the movie The Right Stuff. Actually, the most important achievment of Chuck Yeager, and for which he is most well known, is that he was the _first_ pilot to break the sound barrier. He did it on October 14, 1947, in an experimental mission-specific rocket-powered aircraft called the X-1, built by Bell Aviation, which was mounted to, and launched from, the belly of a B-29. He named it Glamorous Glennis II after his wife (the first Glamorous Glennis was a P-51 Mustang) At the time, he was purported to have had a dislocated shoulder, but he knew the flight surgeon would ground him, so he didn't report it, made the flight in a lot of pain. In 1990, while I was in the Civil Air Patrol, Lake Tahoe Sqdn, I met him in person at an aerospace education conference (10,000 teachers, high-ranking NASA, FAA, USAF personnel, and other 'living legend' historical figures in aviation) which lasted three days in Reno, Nevada. I consider it a priviledge. Oh, and one more historical item. I think he was the only fighter pilot at the end of WWII to shoot down the famous German jet from a piston-engine propellered aircraft (a P-51). Ken N. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Who is chuck yeager? (OT)
On Wednesday, September 1, 2004, at 05:17 PM, Ken Norris (dialup) wrote: Actually, the most important achievment of Chuck Yeager, and for which he is most well known, is that he was the _first_ pilot to break the sound barrier. He did it on October 14, 1947, in an experimental mission-specific rocket-powered aircraft called the X-1, built by Bell Aviation, which was mounted to, and launched from, the belly of a B-29. He named it Glamorous Glennis II after his wife (the first Glamorous Glennis was a P-51 Mustang) At the time, he was purported to have had a dislocated shoulder, but he knew the flight surgeon would ground him, so he didn't report it, made the flight in a lot of pain. In 1990, while I was in the Civil Air Patrol, Lake Tahoe Sqdn, I met him in person at an aerospace education conference (10,000 teachers, high-ranking NASA, FAA, USAF personnel, and other 'living legend' historical figures in aviation) which lasted three days in Reno, Nevada. I consider it a priviledge. Oh, and one more historical item. I think he was the only fighter pilot at the end of WWII to shoot down the famous German jet from a piston-engine propellered aircraft (a P-51). Ken N. So What? :-) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
