Re: Corrupted Stack!
Tim Bleiler wrote: Hi, I've used Rev/Metacard for years and I've never had this happen before. I've got a corrupted stack. When I try to open the stack I get the following message Unable to open stack: stack is corrupted, check for ~backup file. I do have a backup but I've been through that once and the stack becomes corrupted again after a couple of saves. I work with several stacks and I'm not having problems with any of the others. Anyone have any suggestions on causes or solutions? The main thing I've seen so far that can cause this is an imported image in a non-standard format. Not all image apps create images the same way. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Corrupted Stack!
Thanks Jacqueline, I don't have any imported images in the stack. I do have some image controls on a few cards but their file name is set at runtime and never saved with the stack. All of the controls in the stack have customProperties and I've started saving arrays into some of them. Maybe a bug somewhere using this very new feature? Tim Bleiler University at Buffalo On Jan 8, 2009, at 5:45 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Tim Bleiler wrote: Hi, I've used Rev/Metacard for years and I've never had this happen before. I've got a corrupted stack. When I try to open the stack I get the following message Unable to open stack: stack is corrupted, check for ~backup file. I do have a backup but I've been through that once and the stack becomes corrupted again after a couple of saves. I work with several stacks and I'm not having problems with any of the others. Anyone have any suggestions on causes or solutions? The main thing I've seen so far that can cause this is an imported image in a non-standard format. Not all image apps create images the same way. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Corrupted Stack
Is the Structure of a Stack File published anywhere? Thanks Dave KOPP Ed wrote: I searched the archives, but didn't find the silver bullet I was looking for. I've distributed a standalone stack (Windows) that calls another in the splash screen style. The second stack is my data stack and it's corrupted. It can no longer be opened by my standalone app. When I try to open this data stack directly from Revolution, I get a message There was a problem opening that stack: stack is corrupted; check for ~ backup file. Of course, there's no backup file. Is there any way to ignore the scripting and just retrieve the data that's stored in the various fields on the cards? Hwe go seven years with close to zero corruption, and in the last two months I've read about three cases. RunRev -- what's happening? Ed, before you go down the arduous route of rebuilding the stack, you might try seeing if there's some way to delete any images in it first. In most cases corruption is related to images embedded in the stack, and it may be possible to delete those without truly opening it (the engine does less work with a stack when it doesn't actually open it) with something like this (off the top of my head, so maybe it'll need revision): on mouseUp answer file Select the bad stack: if it is empty then exit to top put it into tStackFile -- repeat with i = 1 to the number of cards in stack tStackFile repeat with j = the number of images \ of cd i of stack tStackFile down to 1 delete img 1 of cd i of stack tStackFile end repeat end repeat end mouseUp -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Corrupted Stack
David Burgun wrote: Is the Structure of a Stack File published anywhere? Not to my knowledge, as with most commercial formats it's considered proprietary. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Corrupted Stack
Piece of cake! If you strip any character that's above or below a certain ASCII level, you should have a text file with the content of your stack that can be easily parsed to restore the stack. Most objects are delimited. I've done so a zillion times it seems... But to be honest, I haven't written the stack to recuperate or fix corrupted stacks yet, but i have lots of hypercard stacks I can't port - including a 14000 Mac icon library that's a shame to throw away... But c'est la vie... The funniest is that my script extractor HC stack is corrupted too ;) Challenge: For 1500 EUs or a free ticket 1-2 week trip to Luxembourg-Chicago-Monterey-Luxembourg, i'll write an opensource free stack parser/stack reconstructor... Monterey or bust! ;) cheers Xav -- http://Monsieurx.Com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Gaskin Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 17:41 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Corrupted Stack David Burgun wrote: Is the Structure of a Stack File published anywhere? Not to my knowledge, as with most commercial formats it's considered proprietary. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation __ Rev tools and more: http://www.fourthworld.com/rev ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Corrupted Stack
--- KOPP Ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, there's no backup file. Is there any way to ignore the scripting and just retrieve the data that's stored in the various fields on the cards? see if this works: put the text of field 1 of cd 1 of stack myCorruption into msg if it works, make a handler with repeats for all cards and fields. good luck, Erik Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Corrupted Stack
I tried put the text of fld 1 of cd 1 of stack... and got the following: Message execution error: Error Description: Chunk: can't find stack. I double checked to make sure that I was giving it the correct stack name. To make sure, I modified the code slightly to the following: Answer file which stack?; put the text of fld 1 of cd 1 of stack it into msg. The code works fine if I select a good stack. It doesn't recognize my corrupted stack. :-( -Original Message- From: Erik Hansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 10:07 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Corrupted Stack --- KOPP Ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, there's no backup file. Is there any way to ignore the scripting and just retrieve the data that's stored in the various fields on the cards? see if this works: put the text of field 1 of cd 1 of stack myCorruption into msg if it works, make a handler with repeats for all cards and fields. good luck, Erik Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Corrupted Stack
Try opening the stack in a text editor. You might see the scripts field text there and be able to rescue most of it. Sarah On 4 May 2005, at 1:03 PM, KOPP Ed wrote: I searched the archives, but didn't find the silver bullet I was looking for. I've distributed a standalone stack (Windows) that calls another in the splash screen style. The second stack is my data stack and it's corrupted. It can no longer be opened by my standalone app. When I try to open this data stack directly from Revolution, I get a message There was a problem opening that stack: stack is corrupted; check for ~ backup file. Of course, there's no backup file. Is there any way to ignore the scripting and just retrieve the data that's stored in the various fields on the cards? Ed ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Corrupted Stack
KOPP Ed wrote: I searched the archives, but didn't find the silver bullet I was looking for. I've distributed a standalone stack (Windows) that calls another in the splash screen style. The second stack is my data stack and it's corrupted. It can no longer be opened by my standalone app. When I try to open this data stack directly from Revolution, I get a message There was a problem opening that stack: stack is corrupted; check for ~ backup file. Of course, there's no backup file. Is there any way to ignore the scripting and just retrieve the data that's stored in the various fields on the cards? Hwe go seven years with close to zero corruption, and in the last two months I've read about three cases. RunRev -- what's happening? Ed, before you go down the arduous route of rebuilding the stack, you might try seeing if there's some way to delete any images in it first. In most cases corruption is related to images embedded in the stack, and it may be possible to delete those without truly opening it (the engine does less work with a stack when it doesn't actually open it) with something like this (off the top of my head, so maybe it'll need revision): on mouseUp answer file Select the bad stack: if it is empty then exit to top put it into tStackFile -- repeat with i = 1 to the number of cards in stack tStackFile repeat with j = the number of images \ of cd i of stack tStackFile down to 1 delete img 1 of cd i of stack tStackFile end repeat end repeat end mouseUp -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Corrupted stack
When a stack starts to crash runrev or becomes corrupted, there's only one satisfactory solution. Rebuilt it from scratch. Dont even think of copy pasting the controls (if you can) because the corrupted part might creep in. If you didn't password lock your stack, you can find your scripts back by reading the stack file with a text editor like BBEdit Mac) or UltraEdit (PC). Make sure you dont copy paste control or hidden characters, they might cause invisible problems later. This from experience... Fortunately, it almost never happens! But a good rule of thumb to avoid this is: - Save often with new version numbers each time. - Import images after you finish the GUI. Cheers Xavier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Vogelaar (de Mare) Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 05:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Corrupted stack Hi, I have a stack I worked on for several days, but appears to be corrupted. According to RR, I should try to open the backup file. I have several from different stages of development, but all give the same error. It contains a lot of lay-outed text and a few small PNGs in the file. I suspect the pictures to cause the problem. I imported the images in the morning and I saved the stack several times without any problem (so there is no ~stackname.rev file). Only the stacks cannot be reopened. That is why all the backup files of that day are corrupted as well. I've had corrupted stacks before after importing pictures to them before when trying to open image-containing stacks on a Windows machine, so I thought it was just a cross-platform problem (since I am a Mac OSX user). Strangely enough, attempt #2 of course didn't contain these pictures, but also became corrupted. Is there anything I can do to save some work from these corrupted files? BTW, the file size became surprisingly large; although it contains about 10 Mb of data I can think of, the file size is almost 48 Mb. Terry ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: corrupted stack
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:49:31 -0700 From: Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: corrupted stack I've run into a couple more instances of my project getting corrupted recently. Hi Alex, I may have missed the original posting here but the word corrupted anywhere within a mile of project or stack brings back nightmare nights of yonder SC and HC years. If you have already covered this could you please let me know some specifics about the corruption off-list? I am just distributing a fairly large stack inside a corporation. Thanx Frans Schoffelen -- Frans Schoffelen Dynamic Language Acquisition BV Software Training http://www.dynamicLanguage.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: corrupted stack
On Nov 21, 2003, at 12:43 AM, Frans Schoffelen wrote: Hi Alex, I may have missed the original posting here but the word corrupted anywhere within a mile of project or stack brings back nightmare nights of yonder SC and HC years. If you have already covered this could you please let me know some specifics about the corruption off-list? I am just distributing a fairly large stack inside a corporation. Frans, I'll let you know the details off-list. To be clear though- I seem to be in the definite minority in experiencing this, and the corruption is so infrequent that I'm still very productive, and the corruption only seems to happen when working in the IDE. Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: corrupted stack
On Oct 30, 2003, at 10:27 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I would bug it. The engine itself seems generally reliable in this regard, so it may be something in the interactions with the IDE. As an additional data point, since 1997 I've only had one corrupted stack with MC, and in all cases where a save was terminated (fatal error elsewhere in the system, power outage, me doing something stupid) there was a ~ copy to work from. I've run into a couple more instances of my project getting corrupted recently. Since I use altArchive plugin, I just have to look in my archive folder for the most recent non-corrupted stack. In this case however 3 of the archived stacks were corrupted also and I had to go back to the 4th archive stack. So whatever is happening, the IDE is continuing to work with the corrupted stack, allowing revArchive to make copies of it. This makes me uneasy. Just more data points if you are listening RR # corrupted archived versions: -rw-r--r-- 1 alex admin 7345301 18 Nov 14:37 FacCalc000155.rev -rw-r--r-- 1 alex admin 7345301 18 Nov 14:29 FacCalc000154.rev -rw-r--r-- 1 alex admin 7345501 18 Nov 14:21 FacCalc000153.rev # not-corrupted archive versions: -rw-r--r-- 1 alex admin 6959978 17 Nov 10:54 FacCalc000152.rev -rw-r--r-- 1 alex admin 6977865 17 Nov 10:36 FacCalc000151.rev -rw-r--r-- 1 alex admin 7010443 14 Nov 16:27 FacCalc000150.rev ... Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: corrupted stack
On Oct 23, 2003, at 6:50 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Is there a copy of the stack in the same directory with a tidle after its name? (e.g., MtStack.rv~) if so, that's a backup created bythe engine as a temp file when doing saves -- if you have such a file you should be able to just remove the tilde and get back to work. This ~ file is starting to take on mythic proportions for me. I've had stacks get corrupted several times, and not once have I been able to see a ~ backup file. Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: corrupted stack
On Oct 30, 2003, at 10:03 AM, Alex Rice wrote: This ~ file is starting to take on mythic proportions for me. I've had stacks get corrupted several times, and not once have I been able to see a ~ backup file. continuing that thought... So is there, or should there be a bugzilla bug for stacks being corrupted with no ~ backup stack existing for recovery? Chipp's revArchive pluging is saving my A%% again. Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: corrupted stack
Alex Rice wrote: On Oct 30, 2003, at 10:03 AM, Alex Rice wrote: This ~ file is starting to take on mythic proportions for me. I've had stacks get corrupted several times, and not once have I been able to see a ~ backup file. continuing that thought... So is there, or should there be a bugzilla bug for stacks being corrupted with no ~ backup stack existing for recovery? I would bug it. The engine itself seems generally reliable in this regard, so it may be something in the interactions with the IDE. As an additional data point, since 1997 I've only had one corrupted stack with MC, and in all cases where a save was terminated (fatal error elsewhere in the system, power outage, me doing something stupid) there was a ~ copy to work from. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge: Publish any database on any Web site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: corrupted stack
Hi Alex, I've similar experiences as Richard with this. Since using Rev, I've (knock on wood) *never* experienced a corrupted stack --and I've crashed Rev a bunch ;-) On those rare occasions when I couldn't get a stack to open, I lock messages and open the stack, then comment out all the on preOpenStack on openStack on startup handlers and go from there. Usually it's something in one of those handlers. As I'm sure you know, Rev loads your whole stack(s) in memory and works with them while in memory. So, the *only* time a stack can get corrupted is during a save or save as (or virus). I'm using XP. You're mileage may vary if on Mac. altArchive has saved by *%$ quite a few times also! For those of you who may be lurking and don't know, altArchive is a free plugin which saves iterative versions of your stack and puts them in an 'archive folder' at the same level as your stack. More can be found at: http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Rev2.0Plugins.htm -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: corrupted stack
Chipp Walters wrote: I've similar experiences as Richard with this. Since using Rev, I've (knock on wood) *never* experienced a corrupted stack --and I've crashed Rev a bunch ;-) That raises a good question: could there be anything unique to the stack file in question or its scripts that makes it more prone to corruption? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge: Publish any database on any Web site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: corrupted stack
On Oct 30, 2003, at 11:00 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: Hi Alex, I've similar experiences as Richard with this. Since using Rev, I've (knock on wood) *never* experienced a corrupted stack --and I've crashed Rev a bunch ;-) I figured Richard is still using Metacard most of the time hence the good track record. You are lucky indeed. On those rare occasions when I couldn't get a stack to open, I lock messages and open the stack,... FWIW when you do get a corrupted stack you will see an error dialog There was a problem opening that stack: stack is corrupted, check for ~ backup file. This happens even with messages locked- you can't even open the stack at all. As I'm sure you know, Rev loads your whole stack(s) in memory and works with them while in memory. So, the *only* time a stack can get corrupted is during a save or save as (or virus). Which is why I think there must be a problem with Rev's save routines. These corrupted stacks have occurred on various different OS X installations with different hard disks, different CPUs, different OS versions, etc. No OS crashes or Revolution.app crashes have preceded the corrupted stack either. Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: corrupted stack
On Oct 30, 2003, at 10:27 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I would bug it. OK folks it's bug# 857. Please add your observations to it. summary: corrupted stacks are never accompanied by a ~ backup file. http://runrev.com/revolution/developers/bugdatabase/show_bug.cgi? id=857 Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: corrupted stack
On Oct 30, 2003, at 11:06 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: That raises a good question: could there be anything unique to the stack file in question or its scripts that makes it more prone to corruption? Yes and no. It's my project stack I've been working on for 18 months. I work on the project every work day in Revolution. There is nothing unusual about the 2-3 days out of 365 days when the project gets corrupted. It's not surprising it would be *this* project stack - because that's 90% of what I do in Revolution. Also the project's data stack was corrupted once (seperate stack) and the mainstack has been corrupted once or twice. So it's not just a single stack in question. Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com what a waste of thumbs that are opposable to make machines that are disposable -Ani DiFranco ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: corrupted stack
John mnic wrote: There was a problem opening that stack. file is not a stack I am not able to go to the stack. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to retrieve my data lost in this stack? Is there a copy of the stack in the same directory with a tidle after its name? (e.g., MtStack.rv~) if so, that's a backup created bythe engine as a temp file when doing saves -- if you have such a file you should be able to just remove the tilde and get back to work. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge: Publish any database on any Web site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Corrupted stack
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, I tryed to open a Revolution Stack with BBEdit Lite. Then, when I want to open this stack with Revolution, I have the message : this is a corrupted stack file. Is there a possibility to repair corrupted stack file ? Thank you. Edouard == Edouard, You OF COURSE made a copy of the stack file, then tried to open teh copy with BBEdit lite, R-I-G-H-T ? So, just delete the corrupted one and use the original! miscdas ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Corrupted stack
__-- Message: 9 Subject: Re: Corrupted stack From: Pierre Sahores [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Date: 22 Jul 2003 23:43:05 +0200 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 23:12, Jim Hurley wrote: Ouch! I lost a stack while working in 2.0 The stack still appears on my hard drive and is 572 K in size. So there is something there. I tried to open it in RR 1.1.1 and I got a message Stack corrupted; check for ~ backup. I searched my drive for a tilde file and found nothing. I'm afraid I've been spoiled by RR's reliability and took no precautions. Any ideas on recovery? Depressed, Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Try to see if a temporary backup issue of the corrupted stack is still available on the hard disk. If yes, save a copy of this stack and try to reopen it, directly. Test the revert command too of the corrupted stack. Both this methods have only chance to work if you did'nt quit the RR session along witch the stack has been saved in its actual corrupted state. If this don't work, try to restore the stack in searching among the temporary files you can see on your hard drive in using tools like Norton Utilites. Hope this can help. -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores Serveurs d'applications bases ACID SQL Penser et produire l'avantage compétitif Pierre, Thanks for the tips. I'll see what Norton can do for me. I am pessimistic however. I did something profoundly stupid. (I am a recovering Catholic; hence this need for confession.) I lost the stack in question while I was working on it. It just disappeared from the screen. I tried to reopen it from the open menu but Rev assumed it was already active. So I decided to shut down and start over. And, is my habit when closing RR, I *saved* all running stacks, thus, apparently saving the corruption. I suspect, therefore, that any files I find will also be corrupted. Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Corrupted stack
On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 17:06, Jim Hurley wrote: __-- Message: 9 Subject: Re: Corrupted stack From: Pierre Sahores [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Date: 22 Jul 2003 23:43:05 +0200 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 23:12, Jim Hurley wrote: Ouch! I lost a stack while working in 2.0 The stack still appears on my hard drive and is 572 K in size. So there is something there. I tried to open it in RR 1.1.1 and I got a message Stack corrupted; check for ~ backup. I searched my drive for a tilde file and found nothing. I'm afraid I've been spoiled by RR's reliability and took no precautions. Any ideas on recovery? Depressed, Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Try to see if a temporary backup issue of the corrupted stack is still available on the hard disk. If yes, save a copy of this stack and try to reopen it, directly. Test the revert command too of the corrupted stack. Both this methods have only chance to work if you did'nt quit the RR session along witch the stack has been saved in its actual corrupted state. If this don't work, try to restore the stack in searching among the temporary files you can see on your hard drive in using tools like Norton Utilites. Hope this can help. -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores Serveurs d'applications bases ACID SQL Penser et produire l'avantage compétitif Pierre, Thanks for the tips. I'll see what Norton can do for me. I am pessimistic however. I did something profoundly stupid. (I am a recovering Catholic; hence this need for confession.) I lost the stack in question while I was working on it. It just disappeared from the screen. If this occurs again, try always (from the message box) set the visible of window #stack xxx to true before any thing else. I tried to reopen it from the open menu but Rev assumed it was already active. So I decided to shut down and start over. And, is my habit when closing RR, I *saved* all running stacks, thus, apparently saving the corruption. I suspect, therefore, that any files I find will also be corrupted. Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores Serveurs d'applications bases ACID SQL Penser et produire l'avantage compétitif ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Corrupted stack
--- Pierre Sahores [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 17:06, Jim Hurley wrote: [snip] I am pessimistic however. I did something profoundly stupid. (I am a recovering Catholic; hence this need for confession.) I lost the stack in question while I was working on it. It just disappeared from the screen. If this occurs again, try always (from the message box) set the visible of window #stack xxx to true before any thing else. And also try from the message box : set the topLeft of stack Foobar to 100,100 just in case it got sent somewhere off-screen. Jan Schenkel. = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Corrupted stack
Message: 2 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 09:08:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Jan Schenkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Corrupted stack To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Pierre Sahores [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2003-07-23 at 17:06, Jim Hurley wrote: [snip] I am pessimistic however. I did something profoundly stupid. (I am a recovering Catholic; hence this need for confession.) I lost the stack in question while I was working on it. It just disappeared from the screen. If this occurs again, try always (from the message box) set the visible of window #stack xxx to true before any thing else. And also try from the message box : set the topLeft of stack Foobar to 100,100 just in case it got sent somewhere off-screen. Jan Schenkel. Jan and Pierre, You were both on the right track and thank you for the suggestions. It turned out to be quite tricky. I tried to open the file once again, and once again there was no visible stack. It wasn't even listed in the Window pull down menu. But this time it was the first stack I tried to open and lo and behold, I noticed that there was *another* stack and it was named Utilities. Where in the world did that come from? So I went to the Application browser and the property inspector and found that the stack Utilities had a width of 20 pixels and a height of 20 pixels. And the property inspector wouldn't allow me to increase these values. My stack had changed its name and permanently shrunk. Well, to make a long story short (actually too late for that) I discovered that I had originally been attempting to give a pull down menu (named Utilities) an icon. Apparently I had selected the *stack* and not the Utilities *button*. I had renamed the stack Utilities, and given it a 20x20 icon. So, of course, my stack disappeared, or rather shrank to a tiny icon and I just didn't see it. Furthermore when I tried to open it in RR 1..1 I got a message: stack corrupted, and I assumed the worst. (I know there is a value to giving the stack and the file different names, but this often trips me up. I was opening a file named Optics and getting a stack name Utilities.) Well, to make a long story story (again) I set the stack icon to 0 and renamed the stack, and so all is now well. Whew! Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Corrupted stack
On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 23:12, Jim Hurley wrote: Ouch! I lost a stack while working in 2.0 The stack still appears on my hard drive and is 572 K in size. So there is something there. I tried to open it in RR 1.1.1 and I got a message Stack corrupted; check for ~ backup. I searched my drive for a tilde file and found nothing. I'm afraid I've been spoiled by RR's reliability and took no precautions. Any ideas on recovery? Depressed, Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Try to see if a temporary backup issue of the corrupted stack is still available on the hard disk. If yes, save a copy of this stack and try to reopen it, directly. Test the revert command too of the corrupted stack. Both this methods have only chance to work if you did'nt quit the RR session along witch the stack has been saved in its actual corrupted state. If this don't work, try to restore the stack in searching among the temporary files you can see on your hard drive in using tools like Norton Utilites. Hope this can help. -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores Serveurs d'applications bases ACID SQL Penser et produire l'avantage compétitif ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
