Re: Startup question
The easy way to do this in Leopard is just drag any item to the Dock, right click on it and choose "Open at Login..." from the popup. To make it open in a specific (non default) application: select the file in a window or on the desktop; press command-I or right-click>" Get Info". Set "Open with" to whatever you like. You can also choose a new default app to open all documents of that file type there. Joe F. On Aug 10, 2009, at 2:05 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Colin, we thank you. Joe Wilkins On Aug 10, 2009, at 10:57 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: On Aug 10, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: However, this still doesn't allow me to stipulate a "document" as in the past; just the application. Bummer. Thats not true. Click the +, add in a document, and away you go. Now, having it open a document using an application that is not the normal application for that document type, can't be expressed in one line, but you could add in an AppleScript standalone instead, and that could do whatever you want it to do. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Startup question
Colin, we thank you. Joe Wilkins On Aug 10, 2009, at 10:57 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: On Aug 10, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: However, this still doesn't allow me to stipulate a "document" as in the past; just the application. Bummer. Thats not true. Click the +, add in a document, and away you go. Now, having it open a document using an application that is not the normal application for that document type, can't be expressed in one line, but you could add in an AppleScript standalone instead, and that could do whatever you want it to do. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Startup question
On Aug 10, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: However, this still doesn't allow me to stipulate a "document" as in the past; just the application. Bummer. Thats not true. Click the +, add in a document, and away you go. Now, having it open a document using an application that is not the normal application for that document type, can't be expressed in one line, but you could add in an AppleScript standalone instead, and that could do whatever you want it to do. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Startup question
Thanks for posting this, Colin. I am a relatively new Mac user and love these knowledge bites. Ed On Aug 10, 2009, at 12:38 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: On Aug 10, 2009, at 1:28 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Sorry, I should have asked Finder Help the same question. Indeed. And for anyone who wanted to know the answer: System Preferences/Accounts/Your Account/Login Items. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Startup question
Thanks, Colin, However, this still doesn't allow me to stipulate a "document" as in the past; just the application. Bummer. Joe Wilkins On Aug 10, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: On Aug 10, 2009, at 1:28 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Sorry, I should have asked Finder Help the same question. Indeed. And for anyone who wanted to know the answer: System Preferences/Accounts/Your Account/Login Items. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Startup question
On Aug 10, 2009, at 1:28 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Sorry, I should have asked Finder Help the same question. Indeed. And for anyone who wanted to know the answer: System Preferences/Accounts/Your Account/Login Items. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Startup question
Sorry, I should have asked Finder Help the same question. Joe Wilkins ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: startup question
Hi Stephen, I just used preOpenStack for all the stuff that has to happen on startup... works like a champ. Nothing can even see or touch the stack until everything is loaded. Just so you and anyone else who might go this route knows: Any reference to menus and menuItems in preOpenStack will not produce the desired result. One can reference a menu button by name, id, or number, and change the menuItems by changing the button's text. But references to "menu 'File'" or "menuItem 'Save'", etc. made prior to preOpenCard will fail. Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company "And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee." from "The Triple Foole" by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: startup question
A word of thanks goes out to all who suggested solutions to my startup problem; Jim Ault, Chipp Walters, David Burgun, Dave Cragg, and Rob Cozens. I just used preOpenStack for all the stuff that has to happen on startup... works like a champ. Nothing can even see or touch the stack until everything is loaded. All I can say is duh... and thanks. sqb -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: startup question
Hi Stephen,
I have a chicken-and-egg situation..
I have a stack startup handler that works fine until it does a 'start
using' for a library stack, and then immediately needs to use a
handler in that stack just included.
What happens is that the code keeps marching along, the lib isn't
active yet... and --- error.
I've put a 'wait 30 ticks' then a 'wait 60 ticks' before continuing.
Not long enough? I know, I know, cheesy too.
What's the best way to allow the lib to load.. and how do I wait or
hold for it?
I know there's an 'librarystack' message..
If this is the standard response from Revolution, my Foole's luck has
kept me from experiencing it: I have not checked all my stacks this
morning; however all but one I checked starts using the Library on
preOpenStack but doesn't call a Library handler until openStack.
Suppose you started using the library stack in preOpenStack and
transferred the library calls to the preOpenCard handler for the first
card opened in your main stack?
I said "all but one" because sdbTools plugIn contains:
on preopenStack
startLibrary "Serendipity_Library.rev"
if the result then
beep
answer warning sdbNoLibraryWarning
close this stack
exit preopenStack
end if
put field "Source Database" of card "Translation" into
translationSource
get the sdbFile of this stack
put it into savedDatabase
put char 1 to -5 of item -1 it into referenceSource
if referenceSource <> translationSource then
put referenceSource into field "Source Database" of card
"Translation"
put empty into field "Destination Database" of card "Translation"
get empty -- trigger db save
end if
if it is not savedDatabase then save this stack
set the icon of button "Serendipity" of card 1 to 103010
try
revGoToFramePaused "GrowBook",1
catch anyError
set the rect of image "Closed book.gif" to 380,45,765,508
end try
getSDBClientId mainStackClientId -- library call
getSDBDbId mainStackDbId -- library call
logInSDBClient (the platform),(the rIPCMode of this stack) -- library
call
checkSDBResult (the result) -- library call
get the result
if word 1 of it then
close this stack
exit preopenStack
end if
put word 2 of it into referenceClientId
put the sdbFile of this stack into savedDatabase
openSDBFile sdbBuffer,false,true,,"None",false,empty -- library call
checkSDBResult (the result) -- library call
get the result
if word 1 of it then
close this stack
exit preopenStack
end if
if the sdbFile of this stack is not savedDatabase then save this stack
put word 2 of it into referenceDbId
put referenceDbId into field "Source Db Id" of card "Translation"
loadToolTips
end preopenStack
This logic has always worked for moi. Perhaps because it isn't
preOpenStack that contains the start using statement, but rather the
startLibrary handler called by preOpenStack. So you might try:
on preOpenStack
...
...
startLibrary "My Library"
callLibraryHandler
...
...
end preOpenStack
startLibrary could be as simple as...
on startLibrary libraryName
start using stack libraryName
return the result
end startLibrary
Mine is more complex:
on startLibrary libraryName
set the itemDelimiter to "/"
put the effective fileName of this stack into libraryPath
put libraryName into item -1 of libraryPath
if there is a stack libraryPath then
start using stack libraryPath
return empty
end if
put "PlugIns" into item -1 of libraryPath
put "/"&libraryName after libraryPath
if there is a stack libraryPath then
start using stack libraryPath
return empty
end if
switch (the platform)
case "Win32"
get specialFolderPath("Documents")&"/"&libraryName
if there is a stack it then
start using stack it
return empty
end if
break
case "MacOS"
if char 1 of the systemVersion < 7 then
delete item -5 to -3 of libraryPath
if there is a stack libraryPath then
start using stack libraryPath
return empty
end if
delete item -2 of libraryPath
if there is a stack libraryPath then
start using stack libraryPath
return empty
end if
end if
break
end switch
return true -- = error
end startLibrary
This is because I want developers who use Serendipity Library to have
multiple optional locations for library placement when bundling it with
their apps.
Rob Cozens
CCW, Serendipity Software Company
"And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three;
Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee."
from "The Triple Foole" by John Donne (1572-1631)
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Re: startup question
On 13 Apr 2006, at 02:32, Stephen Barncard wrote: I have a chicken-and-egg situation.. I have a stack startup handler that works fine until it does a 'start using' for a library stack, and then immediately needs to use a handler in that stack just included. What happens is that the code keeps marching along, the lib isn't active yet... and --- error. I've put a 'wait 30 ticks' then a 'wait 60 ticks' before continuing. Not long enough? I know, I know, cheesy too. What's the best way to allow the lib to load.. and how do I wait or hold for it? I know there's an 'librarystack' message.. I don't have a solution, but I'm surprised at the behavior. Generally, libraries called in this way are available immediately. (I'm thinking of cgi scripts that start using a library in the startup handler.) Do you know of anything in the library itself that might be causing this? Right now, the only thing I can think of is the library calling one of the Rev library handlers (commands beginning with rev, or a url request requiring liburl), as the Rev libraries don't load until after startup. Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: startup question
Hi,
One way of doing it is like this:
put "stack " & quote & myStackFilePath & "LibStack.rev" & quote
into myTempStackFilePathName
get value("LibStartUsing(" & theParam1 & "," & theParam2 &
")",myTempStackFilePathName)
Then in LibStack:
function LibStartUsing theParam1, theParam2
start using me
end LibStartUsing
That way the Stack is loaded before the start using is actually run.
Hope this helps
All the Best
Dave
On 13 Apr 2006, at 02:32, Stephen Barncard wrote:
I have a chicken-and-egg situation..
I have a stack startup handler that works fine until it does a
'start using' for a library stack, and then immediately needs to
use a handler in that stack just included.
What happens is that the code keeps marching along, the lib isn't
active yet... and --- error.
I've put a 'wait 30 ticks' then a 'wait 60 ticks' before
continuing. Not long enough? I know, I know, cheesy too.
What's the best way to allow the lib to load.. and how do I wait or
hold for it?
I know there's an 'librarystack' message..
thanks.
sqb
--
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s a n f r a n c i s c o
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Re: startup question
Stephen, Regarding my last comment, I may have addressed a problem you didn't have. You could have a callback message sent after the library has loaded, and trap it in the stack, then resume your startup code there, of course your openStack and other handlers would've already run. You might try 'wait 30 ticks with messages' and see if it doesn't help. Just an idea. best, Chipp Stephen Barncard wrote: I have a chicken-and-egg situation.. I have a stack startup handler that works fine until it does a 'start using' for a library stack, and then immediately needs to use a handler in that stack just included. What happens is that the code keeps marching along, the lib isn't active yet... and --- error. I've put a 'wait 30 ticks' then a 'wait 60 ticks' before continuing. Not long enough? I know, I know, cheesy too. What's the best way to allow the lib to load.. and how do I wait or hold for it? I know there's an 'librarystack' message.. thanks. sqb ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: startup question
I did not say this, but of course, in the repeat loop you need to get tEchoFromLib() wait 60 ticks with messages if tEchoFromLib <> "" then exit repeat to allow the call back from the library handler to take effect. function echoFromLib return "true" end echoFromLib Jim Ault Las Vegas On 4/12/06 7:16 PM, "Jim Ault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have not done this kind of event looping yet, but couldn't you add a > handler in the library that would call back that it was ready? Then in your > code, do a repeat until it echoed a response? > > HTH > Jim Ault > Las Vegas > > > On 4/12/06 6:32 PM, "Stephen Barncard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> I have a chicken-and-egg situation.. >> >> I have a stack startup handler that works fine until it does a 'start >> using' for a library stack, and then immediately needs to use a >> handler in that stack just included. >> >> What happens is that the code keeps marching along, the lib isn't >> active yet... and --- error. >> >> I've put a 'wait 30 ticks' then a 'wait 60 ticks' before continuing. >> Not long enough? I know, I know, cheesy too. >> >> What's the best way to allow the lib to load.. and how do I wait or >> hold for it? >> I know there's an 'librarystack' message.. >> >> thanks. >> >> sqb > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: startup question
Stephen Barncard wrote: I have a stack startup handler that works fine until it does a 'start using' for a library stack, and then immediately needs to use a handler in that stack just included. What's the best way to allow the lib to load.. and how do I wait or hold for it? Stephen, I use preOpenStack and openStack handlers in THE CARD SCRIPT of the stack to effectively handle startup stuff. If you put your start using code there it should work fine. Startup, for me, is only a necessary handler when setting the externals of a stack BEFORE the stack loads..as they can't be set (and used) AFTER the stack loads. best, Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: startup question
I have not done this kind of event looping yet, but couldn't you add a handler in the library that would call back that it was ready? Then in your code, do a repeat until it echoed a response? HTH Jim Ault Las Vegas On 4/12/06 6:32 PM, "Stephen Barncard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have a chicken-and-egg situation.. > > I have a stack startup handler that works fine until it does a 'start > using' for a library stack, and then immediately needs to use a > handler in that stack just included. > > What happens is that the code keeps marching along, the lib isn't > active yet... and --- error. > > I've put a 'wait 30 ticks' then a 'wait 60 ticks' before continuing. > Not long enough? I know, I know, cheesy too. > > What's the best way to allow the lib to load.. and how do I wait or > hold for it? > I know there's an 'librarystack' message.. > > thanks. > > sqb ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
