Re: Rev On Rockets On Dreamhost - Does it work there?
Stephen, Sorry for being late on this thread. And thanks for your support of Rev On Rockets initiative. The error you're having is a permission error. You must be sure you set the correct permissions on the file and also the correct user and group with chown command. chown user:group filename suEXEC needs the correct user and group. Just log in by SSH to your dreamhost account and do a ls -l to see which user and group is being used on your account (they are not standard, they are unique to each dreamhost account). You can enable Shell Access on your Dreamhost account by going into the accounts setup in the control panel. They have something like: Full access which you need to enable so you can use shell access. There you'll see the user and group for your given www user. Then you need to set the rest of the files to the same user and group or Dreamhost suEXEC will complain and refuse to run. Try that and get back to me. Cheers andre On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Richard. That's good to know. Yes, I've been looking at the logs and I always get this error: suexec policy violation: see suexec log for more details, referer: http://cms3.mitchmarcusmusic.com/ I have no suexec log. the only other error is the error for not having the error page! I've sent a support ticket to the Dreamhost techs, they're pretty good about things. You're idea for the send script to and return logs is a good one. I'll incorporate that into my future cgi sandbox. By the way, doesn't FTP in Rev send passwords in plain text? How do you work around that? sqb I run Rev CGIs on Dreamhost daily. Once you find the culprit you'll have a great time. Have you checked your error.log from the server's logs folder? I write my CGIs in a simple stack I made for doing so, which has a button to upload the script so I take care of several small steps in one click. A few weeks ago I had trouble debugging a script's execution on the server, and added another button that downloads my error.log file and displays its contents - total time-saver, well worth the five minutes to set it up. The truth is out there - you just need to find where it's being reported. :) -- Richard Gaskin -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev On Rockets On Dreamhost - Does it work there?
Just make sure you set the execute bits (chmod +xxx .) so that it can be a program! Best wishes Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux (540) 242 0911 - Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at www.abrohamnealsoftware.com - $15.99 - For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com - See the FlexRadio Systems Flex-5000a in action at www.flex-videos.com On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mark, No, ROR doesn't require RevHTTP. I'm not using that part of the demonstration. I've seen and tried that, and wanted to get it into the Apache world. I'm strictly following Andre's instructions and can't even get hello world to work. He did it in front of people and video at the last RevCon. Thanks for the thumbs up on the 3.0 engine. Perhaps I made a mistake in engine. I'll try again. thanks sqb Stephen, I've not run RoR, but I am having no problems running the 3.0 engine (Linux of course) for cgi on Dreamhost. Does RoR act as web-server? Would that mean disabling Apache? Best, Mark -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev On Rockets On Dreamhost - Does it work there?
thanks, Neal and everyone else who responded, I couldn't forget the permissions after Andre said on the Revcon video I almost had a t-shirt made with chmod 755 in big letters so you won't forget! I still can't get a rise out of the executable, except errors. echo.mt (from Jacque's site, changed to echo.cgi) doesn't seem to respond as well as ROR not responding. I've tried the 2.9, 3.0 and 3.5 Linux 86 engines. I'll be sure to let everyone know what it is if I find it. This is basic stuff, it should work. I'm still blaming the operator here. This is the only clue in the logs: suexec policy violation: see suexec log for more details, referer: http://cms3.mitchmarcusmusic.com/ There doesn't appear to be any such suexec log, at least at my security level. That kinda looks like a permission problem.. Once I get it to say hello I'm on my way. sqb Just make sure you set the execute bits (chmod +xxx .) so that it can be a program! Best wishes Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux (540) 242 0911 -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev On Rockets On Dreamhost - Does it work there?
Sulinux is the secure kernel for your instance of Linux. You might want to google around and see if you can learn more about it and what you can do around it! If all else fails, contact your ISP! Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux (540) 242 0911 - Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at www.abrohamnealsoftware.com - $15.99 - For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com - See the FlexRadio Systems Flex-5000a in action at www.flex-videos.com On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks, Neal and everyone else who responded, I couldn't forget the permissions after Andre said on the Revcon video I almost had a t-shirt made with chmod 755 in big letters so you won't forget! I still can't get a rise out of the executable, except errors. echo.mt (from Jacque's site, changed to echo.cgi) doesn't seem to respond as well as ROR not responding. I've tried the 2.9, 3.0 and 3.5 Linux 86 engines. I'll be sure to let everyone know what it is if I find it. This is basic stuff, it should work. I'm still blaming the operator here. This is the only clue in the logs: suexec policy violation: see suexec log for more details, referer: http://cms3.mitchmarcusmusic.com/ There doesn't appear to be any such suexec log, at least at my security level. That kinda looks like a permission problem.. Once I get it to say hello I'm on my way. sqb Just make sure you set the execute bits (chmod +xxx .) so that it can be a program! Best wishes Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux (540) 242 0911 -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev On Rockets On Dreamhost - Does it work there?
On Dec 6, 2008, at 5:40 PM, Stephen Barncard wrote: thanks, Neal and everyone else who responded, I couldn't forget the permissions after Andre said on the Revcon video I almost had a t-shirt made with chmod 755 in big letters so you won't forget! I had a nightmare of getting a tattoo with 755 ;-) I still can't get a rise out of the executable, except errors. Does it need-ui Like the following? #!XhoutOut -ui on startup library makealert.rev end startup sims ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev On Rockets On Dreamhost - Does it work there?
Thanks Jim, yes I checked and of course ROR has it everywhere. I did add it to the old echo.mc script ( and changed the suffix to .cgi ). I'm writing a report to DH support. I'll let everyone know how it went. sqb On Dec 6, 2008, at 5:40 PM, Stephen Barncard wrote: thanks, Neal and everyone else who responded, I couldn't forget the permissions after Andre said on the Revcon video I almost had a t-shirt made with chmod 755 in big letters so you won't forget! I had a nightmare of getting a tattoo with 755 ;-) I still can't get a rise out of the executable, except errors. Does it need-ui Like the following? #!XhoutOut -ui on startup library makealert.rev end startup sims -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev On Rockets On Dreamhost - Does it work there?
I run Rev CGIs on Dreamhost daily. Once you find the culprit you'll have a great time. Have you checked your error.log from the server's logs folder? I write my CGIs in a simple stack I made for doing so, which has a button to upload the script so I take care of several small steps in one click. A few weeks ago I had trouble debugging a script's execution on the server, and added another button that downloads my error.log file and displays its contents - total time-saver, well worth the five minutes to set it up. The truth is out there - you just need to find where it's being reported. :) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev On Rockets On Dreamhost - Does it work there?
Thanks Richard. That's good to know. Yes, I've been looking at the logs and I always get this error: suexec policy violation: see suexec log for more details, referer: http://cms3.mitchmarcusmusic.com/ I have no suexec log. the only other error is the error for not having the error page! I've sent a support ticket to the Dreamhost techs, they're pretty good about things. You're idea for the send script to and return logs is a good one. I'll incorporate that into my future cgi sandbox. By the way, doesn't FTP in Rev send passwords in plain text? How do you work around that? sqb I run Rev CGIs on Dreamhost daily. Once you find the culprit you'll have a great time. Have you checked your error.log from the server's logs folder? I write my CGIs in a simple stack I made for doing so, which has a button to upload the script so I take care of several small steps in one click. A few weeks ago I had trouble debugging a script's execution on the server, and added another button that downloads my error.log file and displays its contents - total time-saver, well worth the five minutes to set it up. The truth is out there - you just need to find where it's being reported. :) -- Richard Gaskin -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev On Rockets On Dreamhost - Does it work there?
Stephen Barncard wrote: By the way, doesn't FTP in Rev send passwords in plain text? How do you work around that? Until Rev supports secure FTP there is no preventative solution. So I handle it as I do when using many other tools that don't provide secure FTP: I change my site's password weekly, and monitor the site for changed files daily. Of course the best answer would be to support secure FTP: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=6405 This wouldn't affect just those of us who make little tools for ourselves, but our customers as well, so overall we're looking at the security of tens of thousands of people hanging on this. I understand that it's challenging to implement, and not the sort of thing likely to be personally satisfying to work on. But I'd pay extra for it to see it in the engine and I'll be others would too. With 108 votes thus far, if we each chipped in US$100 for this that would be $10,800 in supplemental revenue. It'd be well worth a hundred bucks to me to be able to offer good security to my customers and clients. In the meantime, I've been considering ways to use POST as an alternative, but there are so many limitations with it that I don't imagine it'll be much of a substitute except for a few limited circumstances. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rev On Rockets On Dreamhost - Does it work there?
Hello Rev Nation, I was watching Andre's discussion of Rev On Rockets from the Vegas conferences, and got inspired to give it a go. It seemed so simple. It works great locally on the Mac. The hosting for me and my friends is Dreamhost, and I was certain that I heard that someone had successfully made it work there. I had saved the earliest ROR code that Andre put out a while ago, and which I tried to unsuccessfully get to work. Read the docs, placed the 2.9 x86 Linux standalone engine into the cgi-bin folder (after installing the www part of ROR into cgi-bin), set the permissions to 755, renamed Standalone to revolution (lower case), and brought up a browser looking at a subdomain I created for RevHTTP on the web. I zipped everything and used Terminal to expand in situ. Also just downloaded the newest version of Andre's code. Same thing. Errors, errors. It's obvious Rev is not being executed. Did anyone really get it to work at Dreamhost and what were the incantations? Did the aforementioned engine ever work? Will the 3.5 engine work? Should I try to go back in history and get a really old engine? I thought Rev had fixed this. Searches on the net of old list posts reveal Dan Shafer giving up in desperation and not many success stories. I'm sure it's me or my something about Dreamhost one or the other. I'm not sure they could help me unless I have some idea of what to do. This is one of two major gaps I have with rev. The other is getting SQLLite to do anything. (I work with SQL Fat every day) .. I'm off to watch Trevor's VEGAS 08 talk on just that topic. thanks, sqb -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev On Rockets On Dreamhost - Does it work there?
Stephen, I've not run RoR, but I am having no problems running the 3.0 engine (Linux of course) for cgi on Dreamhost. Does RoR act as web-server? Would that mean disabling Apache? Best, Mark On 6 Dec 2008, at 02:05, Stephen Barncard wrote: Hello Rev Nation, I was watching Andre's discussion of Rev On Rockets from the Vegas conferences, and got inspired to give it a go. It seemed so simple. It works great locally on the Mac. The hosting for me and my friends is Dreamhost, and I was certain that I heard that someone had successfully made it work there. I had saved the earliest ROR code that Andre put out a while ago, and which I tried to unsuccessfully get to work. Read the docs, placed the 2.9 x86 Linux standalone engine into the cgi-bin folder (after installing the www part of ROR into cgi-bin), set the permissions to 755, renamed Standalone to revolution (lower case), and brought up a browser looking at a subdomain I created for RevHTTP on the web. I zipped everything and used Terminal to expand in situ. Also just downloaded the newest version of Andre's code. Same thing. Errors, errors. It's obvious Rev is not being executed. Did anyone really get it to work at Dreamhost and what were the incantations? Did the aforementioned engine ever work? Will the 3.5 engine work? Should I try to go back in history and get a really old engine? I thought Rev had fixed this. Searches on the net of old list posts reveal Dan Shafer giving up in desperation and not many success stories. I'm sure it's me or my something about Dreamhost one or the other. I'm not sure they could help me unless I have some idea of what to do. This is one of two major gaps I have with rev. The other is getting SQLLite to do anything. (I work with SQL Fat every day) .. I'm off to watch Trevor's VEGAS 08 talk on just that topic. thanks, sqb -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev On Rockets On Dreamhost - Does it work there?
Hi Mark, No, ROR doesn't require RevHTTP. I'm not using that part of the demonstration. I've seen and tried that, and wanted to get it into the Apache world. I'm strictly following Andre's instructions and can't even get hello world to work. He did it in front of people and video at the last RevCon. Thanks for the thumbs up on the 3.0 engine. Perhaps I made a mistake in engine. I'll try again. thanks sqb Stephen, I've not run RoR, but I am having no problems running the 3.0 engine (Linux of course) for cgi on Dreamhost. Does RoR act as web-server? Would that mean disabling Apache? Best, Mark -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
