Re: smartDraw and alternatives
Hi Dominique, Looks interesting; particularly since it appears to have a programming language within it. I'll at least give it a tire kicking. Like all of the OSX apps, things are very difficult to see because of all the transparency. I hate that feature of OSX graphics. Cool, but very hard to see. Thanks, Joe Wilkins On May 7, 2007, at 11:23 AM, Dominique Bodin wrote: hello, i know this one: http://www.conceptdraw.com/en/products/cd5/main.php it's "only" $299 Dominique ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: smartDraw and alternatives
hello, i know this one: http://www.conceptdraw.com/en/products/cd5/main.php it's "only" $299 Dominique On Sun, 06 May 2007 22:58:27 +0200, Jim Ault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/6/07 10:50 AM, "Joe Lewis Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks for the observation, Jim. That was kind of what I thought might be possible, but not being familiar with Flash at all, had no idea exactly how it might be used. Is Flash expensive? Joe Yep, it is one of the big guys. And learning curve is a bit steep. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution __ Information NOD32 2245 (20070506) __ Ce message a ete verifie par NOD32 Antivirus System. http://www.nod32.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: smartDraw and alternatives
On 5/6/07 10:50 AM, "Joe Lewis Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for the observation, Jim. That was kind of what I thought > might be possible, but not being familiar with Flash at all, had no > idea exactly how it might be used. Is Flash expensive? > > Joe Yep, it is one of the big guys. And learning curve is a bit steep. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: smartDraw and alternatives
Thanks for the observation, Jim. That was kind of what I thought might be possible, but not being familiar with Flash at all, had no idea exactly how it might be used. Is Flash expensive? Joe On May 6, 2007, at 10:41 AM, Jim Ault wrote: On 5/6/07 10:01 AM, "Joe Lewis Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chipp, Just curious as to what kind of drawings you CAN do with Flash. Thanks, Joe My take is that it would not really good for the architectural tools you are used to, Joe. Not even close to Dreams, or the like. Old versions of Flash have a quite different way of working with drawing objects. Takes getting used to, and layer management is essential, but weak. Flash does have some amazingly good algorithms for rendering. You might think more about exporting from a good drawing program, then importing into Flash. Now you can apply Flash tools to get something that will render precisely. You could do a special effect of a before-home and an after-remodel where Flash does all the 'tweening' calculations to animate the change! Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: smartDraw and alternatives
On 5/6/07 10:01 AM, "Joe Lewis Wilkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chipp, > Just curious as to what kind of drawings you CAN do with Flash. > Thanks, > Joe > My take is that it would not really good for the architectural tools you are used to, Joe. Not even close to Dreams, or the like. Old versions of Flash have a quite different way of working with drawing objects. Takes getting used to, and layer management is essential, but weak. Flash does have some amazingly good algorithms for rendering. You might think more about exporting from a good drawing program, then importing into Flash. Now you can apply Flash tools to get something that will render precisely. You could do a special effect of a before-home and an after-remodel where Flash does all the 'tweening' calculations to animate the change! Jim Ault Las Vegas > On May 6, 2007, at 9:54 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: > >> Joe, perhaps you mean, 'can Flash be used to create architectural >> drawings'-- like a CAD app. The answer to that is NO. There are no >> real >> units in my version of Flash, and there certainly is not 'fillet' or >> 'chamfering' type tools. I wouldn't think anyone would use Flash to >> create >> mechanical or architectural blueprints. > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: smartDraw and alternatives
Chipp, Just curious as to what kind of drawings you CAN do with Flash. Thanks, Joe On May 6, 2007, at 9:54 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: Joe, perhaps you mean, 'can Flash be used to create architectural drawings'-- like a CAD app. The answer to that is NO. There are no real units in my version of Flash, and there certainly is not 'fillet' or 'chamfering' type tools. I wouldn't think anyone would use Flash to create mechanical or architectural blueprints. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: smartDraw and alternatives
Joe, perhaps you mean, 'can Flash be used to create architectural drawings'-- like a CAD app. The answer to that is NO. There are no real units in my version of Flash, and there certainly is not 'fillet' or 'chamfering' type tools. I wouldn't think anyone would use Flash to create mechanical or architectural blueprints. On 5/6/07, Chipp Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/5/07, Joe Lewis Wilkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Chipp, > > Can Flash be used for scaled drawings? Joe, I don't understand the question. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: smartDraw and alternatives
On 5/5/07, Joe Lewis Wilkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chipp, Can Flash be used for scaled drawings? Joe, I don't understand the question. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: smartDraw and alternatives
Chipp, Can Flash be used for scaled drawings? Joe Wilkins On May 5, 2007, at 1:07 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Believe it or not, I prefer Flash, as I can draw anything I like with it, and over the years I have created libraries which help me diagram. Frankly, I prefer Flash 4 as it's very simple to use. One of the great things about Flash is that it autoscales print results to any device. So, the Flash doc at: http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/ChicagoTitleExtranet/ ChicTitleBlueprint03.swf prints out on large 4' wide plotters which makes for excellent presentations. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: smartDraw and alternatives
Believe it or not, I prefer Flash, as I can draw anything I like with it, and over the years I have created libraries which help me diagram. Frankly, I prefer Flash 4 as it's very simple to use. One of the great things about Flash is that it autoscales print results to any device. So, the Flash doc at: http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/ChicagoTitleExtranet/ChicTitleBlueprint03.swf prints out on large 4' wide plotters which makes for excellent presentations. -Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: smartDraw and alternatives
I'll second that. I just used OmniGraffle to flowchart and visualize a really long convoluted handler. OmniGraffle for OS X is very, very nice. It came free with my Macs. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: smartDraw and alternatives
OmniGraffle for OS X is very, very nice. It came free with my Macs. On Windows/Solaris/HPUX there is VisualThought - which is abandonware, but they had the decency to produce a free license code for it when it was abandoned: http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/graphics/diagramming/confluent/ Bernard > what software for easy drawing eye-candy diagrams (Tree diagrams, ER, > block > diagrams from templates) do you usually use? I tried smartDraw (www > smartdraw.com) but for some reason it is very unstable and almost unusable > on my system, so decided to ask for your advice again on comparable > alternatives (MacOSX, Linux, Windows). Thanks in advance! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: smartDraw and alternatives
From: "Viktoras Didziulis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "How to use Revolution" Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 5:38 PM Subject: smartDraw and alternatives what software for easy drawing eye-candy diagrams (Tree diagrams, ER, block diagrams from templates) do you usually use? I tried smartDraw (www smartdraw.com) but for some reason it is very unstable and almost unusable on my system, so decided to ask for your advice again on comparable alternatives (MacOSX, Linux, Windows). Thanks in advance! Visio is nice (but expensive) for Windows only. Available from M$ and I think there is a trial version on their website. Scott Kane "Nothing is as powerful as an idea whose time has come." Victor Hugo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
smartDraw and alternatives
what software for easy drawing eye-candy diagrams (Tree diagrams, ER, block diagrams from templates) do you usually use? I tried smartDraw (www smartdraw.com) but for some reason it is very unstable and almost unusable on my system, so decided to ask for your advice again on comparable alternatives (MacOSX, Linux, Windows). Thanks in advance! Regards Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
