RE: Does operator uid() have to be unique across all jobs?

2019-10-25 Thread min.tan
Thank you for your reply.

Any tool enables us to inspect (list) statically all the "uid"ed operators or 
all the operators? for a jar?

Also addSink and addSource are not on the operator list 
https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.9/dev/stream/operators/

But they both have an uid method. Are these two an operator or not?

Regards,

Min


From: Dian Fu [mailto:dian0511...@gmail.com]
Sent: Freitag, 25. Oktober 2019 10:24
To: Tan, Min
Cc: John Smith; user@flink.apache.org
Subject: [External] Re: Does operator uid() have to be unique across all jobs?

It means that there is an operator state which has no corresponding operator in 
the new job. It usually indicates that the uid of a stateful operator has 
changed.

在 2019年10月25日,下午4:12,mailto:min@ubs.com>> 
mailto:min@ubs.com>> 写道:

Thanks for your reply.

Our sources and sinks are connected to Kafka, therefore they are statful.

We did not set uid on them but only name().

The log says
Caused by: java.lang.IllegalStateException: Failed to rollback to 
checkpoint/savepoint 
file:/var/flink/data-remote/savepoint-00-dae014102550.
 Cannot map checkpoint/savepoint state for operator 
484df1f961bd0cff95fd39b290ba9c03 to the new program, because the operator is 
not available in the new program. If you want to allow to skip this, you can 
set the --allowNonRestoredState option on the CLI.

Regards,

Min


From: Dian Fu [mailto:dian0511...@gmail.com]
Sent: Freitag, 25. Oktober 2019 10:04
To: Tan, Min
Cc: John Smith; user
Subject: [External] Re: Does operator uid() have to be unique across all jobs?

Hi Min,

It depends on the source/sink implementation. If the source/sink implementation 
uses state, uid should be set. So you can always set the uid in this case and 
then you don't need to care about the implementation details of the source/sink 
you used.

name() doesn't have such functionality.

Regarding to the uid mismatch you encountered, could you share the exception 
log?

Regards,
Dian

在 2019年10月25日,下午3:38,min@ubs.com<mailto:min@ubs.com> 写道:

Thank you very much for your helpful response.

Our new production release complains about the an uid mismatch (we use exactly 
once checkpoints).
I hope I understand  your correctly: map and print are certainly stateless, 
therefore no uid is required. What about addSink and addSoure? Do they need an 
uid? Or a name() has a similar function?

Regards,

Min

From: Dian Fu [mailto:dian0511...@gmail.com]
Sent: Freitag, 25. Oktober 2019 03:52
To: Tan, Min
Cc: John Smith; user
Subject: [External] Re: Does operator uid() have to be unique across all jobs?

Hi Min,

The uid is used to matching the operator state stored in the 
checkpoint/savepoint to an operator[1]. So you only need to specify the uid for 
stateful operators.
1) If you have not specified the uid for an operator, it will generate a uid 
for it in a deterministic way[2] for it. The generated uid doesn't change for 
the same job.
2) However, it's encouraged to set uid for stateful operators to allow for job 
evolution. The dynamically generated uid is not guaranteed to remain the same 
if the job has changed, i.e. adding/removing operators in the job graph. If you 
want to reuse state after job evolution, you need to set the uid explicitly.

So for the example you give, I think you don't need to specify the uid for the 
map and print operator.

[1] 
https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-master/ops/upgrading.html#matching-operator-state
[2] 
https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/fd511c345eac31f03b801ff19dbf1f8c86aae760/flink-streaming-java/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/streaming/api/graph/StreamGraphHasherV2.java#L78<https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=c9015cfc22fe1401.c9017582-6f89734a5e8c7c21=https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/fd511c345eac31f03b801ff19dbf1f8c86aae760/flink-streaming-java/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/streaming/api/graph/StreamGraphHasherV2.java#L78>

在 2019年10月24日,下午11:22,min@ubs.com<mailto:min@ubs.com> 写道:

Hi,

I have some simple questions on the uid as well.

1)  Do we add a uid for every operator e.g. print(), addSink and addSource?
2)  For chained operators, do we need to uids for each operator? Or just 
the last operator?
e.g. .map().uid("some-id").print().uid("print-id");


Regards,

Min

From: John Smith [mailto:java.dev@gmail.com]
Sent: Donnerstag, 24. Oktober 2019 16:32
To: Dian Fu
Cc: user
Subject: [External] Re: Does operator uid() have to be unique across all jobs?

Ok cool. Thanks

BTW this seems a bit cumbersome...

.map().uid("some-id").name("some-id");

On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 21:13, Dian Fu 
mailto:dian0511...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yes, you can use it in another job. The uid needs only to be unique within a 
job.

> 在 2019年10月24日,上午5:42,John Smith 
> mailto:java.dev@gmail.com>> 写道:
>
> When setting uid() of an operator does it have to be unique

RE: Does operator uid() have to be unique across all jobs?

2019-10-25 Thread min.tan
Thanks for your reply.

Our sources and sinks are connected to Kafka, therefore they are statful.

We did not set uid on them but only name().

The log says
Caused by: java.lang.IllegalStateException: Failed to rollback to 
checkpoint/savepoint 
file:/var/flink/data-remote/savepoint-00-dae014102550.
 Cannot map checkpoint/savepoint state for operator 
484df1f961bd0cff95fd39b290ba9c03 to the new program, because the operator is 
not available in the new program. If you want to allow to skip this, you can 
set the --allowNonRestoredState option on the CLI.

Regards,

Min


From: Dian Fu [mailto:dian0511...@gmail.com]
Sent: Freitag, 25. Oktober 2019 10:04
To: Tan, Min
Cc: John Smith; user
Subject: [External] Re: Does operator uid() have to be unique across all jobs?

Hi Min,

It depends on the source/sink implementation. If the source/sink implementation 
uses state, uid should be set. So you can always set the uid in this case and 
then you don't need to care about the implementation details of the source/sink 
you used.

name() doesn't have such functionality.

Regarding to the uid mismatch you encountered, could you share the exception 
log?

Regards,
Dian

在 2019年10月25日,下午3:38,min@ubs.com<mailto:min@ubs.com> 写道:

Thank you very much for your helpful response.

Our new production release complains about the an uid mismatch (we use exactly 
once checkpoints).
I hope I understand  your correctly: map and print are certainly stateless, 
therefore no uid is required. What about addSink and addSoure? Do they need an 
uid? Or a name() has a similar function?

Regards,

Min

From: Dian Fu [mailto:dian0511...@gmail.com]
Sent: Freitag, 25. Oktober 2019 03:52
To: Tan, Min
Cc: John Smith; user
Subject: [External] Re: Does operator uid() have to be unique across all jobs?

Hi Min,

The uid is used to matching the operator state stored in the 
checkpoint/savepoint to an operator[1]. So you only need to specify the uid for 
stateful operators.
1) If you have not specified the uid for an operator, it will generate a uid 
for it in a deterministic way[2] for it. The generated uid doesn't change for 
the same job.
2) However, it's encouraged to set uid for stateful operators to allow for job 
evolution. The dynamically generated uid is not guaranteed to remain the same 
if the job has changed, i.e. adding/removing operators in the job graph. If you 
want to reuse state after job evolution, you need to set the uid explicitly.

So for the example you give, I think you don't need to specify the uid for the 
map and print operator.

[1] 
https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-master/ops/upgrading.html#matching-operator-state
[2] 
https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/fd511c345eac31f03b801ff19dbf1f8c86aae760/flink-streaming-java/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/streaming/api/graph/StreamGraphHasherV2.java#L78<https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=c9015cfc22fe1401.c9017582-6f89734a5e8c7c21=https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/fd511c345eac31f03b801ff19dbf1f8c86aae760/flink-streaming-java/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/streaming/api/graph/StreamGraphHasherV2.java#L78>

在 2019年10月24日,下午11:22,min@ubs.com<mailto:min@ubs.com> 写道:

Hi,

I have some simple questions on the uid as well.

1)  Do we add a uid for every operator e.g. print(), addSink and addSource?
2)  For chained operators, do we need to uids for each operator? Or just 
the last operator?
e.g. .map().uid("some-id").print().uid("print-id");


Regards,

Min

From: John Smith [mailto:java.dev@gmail.com]
Sent: Donnerstag, 24. Oktober 2019 16:32
To: Dian Fu
Cc: user
Subject: [External] Re: Does operator uid() have to be unique across all jobs?

Ok cool. Thanks

BTW this seems a bit cumbersome...

.map().uid("some-id").name("some-id");

On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 21:13, Dian Fu 
mailto:dian0511...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yes, you can use it in another job. The uid needs only to be unique within a 
job.

> 在 2019年10月24日,上午5:42,John Smith 
> mailto:java.dev@gmail.com>> 写道:
>
> When setting uid() of an operator does it have to be unique across all jobs 
> or just unique within a job?
>
> For example can I use env.addSource(myKafkaConsumer).uid("kafka-consumer") in 
> another job?

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Re: Does operator uid() have to be unique across all jobs?

2019-10-25 Thread Dian Fu
Hi Min,

It depends on the source/sink implementation. If the source/sink implementation 
uses state, uid should be set. So you can always set the uid in this case and 
then you don't need to care about the implementation details of the source/sink 
you used.

name() doesn't have such functionality.

Regarding to the uid mismatch you encountered, could you share the exception 
log? 

Regards,
Dian

> 在 2019年10月25日,下午3:38,min@ubs.com 写道:
> 
> Thank you very much for your helpful response.
>  
> Our new production release complains about the an uid mismatch (we use 
> exactly once checkpoints).
> I hope I understand  your correctly: map and print are certainly stateless, 
> therefore no uid is required. What about addSink and addSoure? Do they need 
> an uid? Or a name() has a similar function?
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Min
>  
> From: Dian Fu [mailto:dian0511...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Freitag, 25. Oktober 2019 03:52
> To: Tan, Min
> Cc: John Smith; user
> Subject: [External] Re: Does operator uid() have to be unique across all jobs?
>  
> Hi Min,
>  
> The uid is used to matching the operator state stored in the 
> checkpoint/savepoint to an operator[1]. So you only need to specify the uid 
> for stateful operators.
> 1) If you have not specified the uid for an operator, it will generate a uid 
> for it in a deterministic way[2] for it. The generated uid doesn't change for 
> the same job.
> 2) However, it's encouraged to set uid for stateful operators to allow for 
> job evolution. The dynamically generated uid is not guaranteed to remain the 
> same if the job has changed, i.e. adding/removing operators in the job graph. 
> If you want to reuse state after job evolution, you need to set the uid 
> explicitly.
>  
> So for the example you give, I think you don't need to specify the uid for 
> the map and print operator.
>  
> [1] 
> https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-master/ops/upgrading.html#matching-operator-state
>  
> <https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-master/ops/upgrading.html#matching-operator-state>
> [2] 
> https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/fd511c345eac31f03b801ff19dbf1f8c86aae760/flink-streaming-java/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/streaming/api/graph/StreamGraphHasherV2.java#L78
>  
> <https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=c9015cfc22fe1401.c9017582-6f89734a5e8c7c21=https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/fd511c345eac31f03b801ff19dbf1f8c86aae760/flink-streaming-java/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/streaming/api/graph/StreamGraphHasherV2.java#L78>
>  
> 在 2019年10月24日,下午11:22,min@ubs.com <mailto:min@ubs.com> 写道:
>  
> Hi,
>  
> I have some simple questions on the uid as well.
>  
> 1)  Do we add a uid for every operator e.g. print(), addSink and 
> addSource?
> 2)  For chained operators, do we need to uids for each operator? Or just 
> the last operator?
> e.g. .map().uid("some-id").print().uid("print-id");
>  
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Min
>  
> From: John Smith [mailto:java.dev@gmail.com 
> <mailto:java.dev@gmail.com>] 
> Sent: Donnerstag, 24. Oktober 2019 16:32
> To: Dian Fu
> Cc: user
> Subject: [External] Re: Does operator uid() have to be unique across all jobs?
>  
> Ok cool. Thanks
> 
> BTW this seems a bit cumbersome...
> 
> .map().uid("some-id").name("some-id");
>  
> On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 21:13, Dian Fu  <mailto:dian0511...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Yes, you can use it in another job. The uid needs only to be unique within a 
> job.
> 
> > 在 2019年10月24日,上午5:42,John Smith  > <mailto:java.dev@gmail.com>> 写道:
> > 
> > When setting uid() of an operator does it have to be unique across all jobs 
> > or just unique within a job?
> > 
> > For example can I use env.addSource(myKafkaConsumer).uid("kafka-consumer") 
> > in another job?
> 
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RE: Does operator uid() have to be unique across all jobs?

2019-10-25 Thread min.tan
Thank you very much for your helpful response.

Our new production release complains about the an uid mismatch (we use exactly 
once checkpoints).
I hope I understand  your correctly: map and print are certainly stateless, 
therefore no uid is required. What about addSink and addSoure? Do they need an 
uid? Or a name() has a similar function?

Regards,

Min

From: Dian Fu [mailto:dian0511...@gmail.com]
Sent: Freitag, 25. Oktober 2019 03:52
To: Tan, Min
Cc: John Smith; user
Subject: [External] Re: Does operator uid() have to be unique across all jobs?

Hi Min,

The uid is used to matching the operator state stored in the 
checkpoint/savepoint to an operator[1]. So you only need to specify the uid for 
stateful operators.
1) If you have not specified the uid for an operator, it will generate a uid 
for it in a deterministic way[2] for it. The generated uid doesn't change for 
the same job.
2) However, it's encouraged to set uid for stateful operators to allow for job 
evolution. The dynamically generated uid is not guaranteed to remain the same 
if the job has changed, i.e. adding/removing operators in the job graph. If you 
want to reuse state after job evolution, you need to set the uid explicitly.

So for the example you give, I think you don't need to specify the uid for the 
map and print operator.

[1] 
https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-master/ops/upgrading.html#matching-operator-state
[2] 
https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/fd511c345eac31f03b801ff19dbf1f8c86aae760/flink-streaming-java/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/streaming/api/graph/StreamGraphHasherV2.java#L78<https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=c9015cfc22fe1401.c9017582-6f89734a5e8c7c21=https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/fd511c345eac31f03b801ff19dbf1f8c86aae760/flink-streaming-java/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/streaming/api/graph/StreamGraphHasherV2.java#L78>

在 2019年10月24日,下午11:22,min@ubs.com<mailto:min@ubs.com> 写道:

Hi,

I have some simple questions on the uid as well.

1)  Do we add a uid for every operator e.g. print(), addSink and addSource?
2)  For chained operators, do we need to uids for each operator? Or just 
the last operator?
e.g. .map().uid("some-id").print().uid("print-id");


Regards,

Min

From: John Smith [mailto:java.dev@gmail.com]
Sent: Donnerstag, 24. Oktober 2019 16:32
To: Dian Fu
Cc: user
Subject: [External] Re: Does operator uid() have to be unique across all jobs?

Ok cool. Thanks

BTW this seems a bit cumbersome...

.map().uid("some-id").name("some-id");

On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 21:13, Dian Fu 
mailto:dian0511...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yes, you can use it in another job. The uid needs only to be unique within a 
job.

> 在 2019年10月24日,上午5:42,John Smith 
> mailto:java.dev@gmail.com>> 写道:
>
> When setting uid() of an operator does it have to be unique across all jobs 
> or just unique within a job?
>
> For example can I use env.addSource(myKafkaConsumer).uid("kafka-consumer") in 
> another job?

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Re: Does operator uid() have to be unique across all jobs?

2019-10-25 Thread Victor Wong
Hi,
  “uid” is mainly useful when you upgrade your application. It’s used to match 
the operator state stored in the savepoint.
  As suggested in [1], “it is highly recommended to assign unique IDs to all 
operators of an application that might be upgraded in the future.”

  [1]. 
https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-stable/ops/upgrading.html#matching-operator-state

From: "min@ubs.com" 
Date: Thursday, 24 October 2019 at 11:31 PM
To: "java.dev@gmail.com" , "dian0511...@gmail.com" 

Cc: "user@flink.apache.org" 
Subject: RE: Does operator uid() have to be unique across all jobs?

Hi,

I have some simple questions on the uid as well.


  1.  Do we add a uid for every operator e.g. print(), addSink and addSource?
  2.  For chained operators, do we need to uids for each operator? Or just the 
last operator?

e.g. .map().uid("some-id").print().uid("print-id");




Regards,


Min

From: John Smith [mailto:java.dev@gmail.com]
Sent: Donnerstag, 24. Oktober 2019 16:32
To: Dian Fu
Cc: user
Subject: [External] Re: Does operator uid() have to be unique across all jobs?

Ok cool. Thanks

BTW this seems a bit cumbersome...

.map().uid("some-id").name("some-id");

On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 21:13, Dian Fu 
mailto:dian0511...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yes, you can use it in another job. The uid needs only to be unique within a 
job.

> 在 2019年10月24日,上午5:42,John Smith 
> mailto:java.dev@gmail.com>> 写道:
>
> When setting uid() of an operator does it have to be unique across all jobs 
> or just unique within a job?
>
> For example can I use env.addSource(myKafkaConsumer).uid("kafka-consumer") in 
> another job?


Re: Does operator uid() have to be unique across all jobs?

2019-10-24 Thread Dian Fu
Just adding one more point: Changing the parallelism of the operators may 
affect the chaining of the operators, which will also affect the generated uid. 
So the uid of stateful operators should also be set in this case.

> 在 2019年10月25日,上午9:51,Dian Fu  写道:
> 
> Hi Min,
> 
> The uid is used to matching the operator state stored in the 
> checkpoint/savepoint to an operator[1]. So you only need to specify the uid 
> for stateful operators.
> 1) If you have not specified the uid for an operator, it will generate a uid 
> for it in a deterministic way[2] for it. The generated uid doesn't change for 
> the same job.
> 2) However, it's encouraged to set uid for stateful operators to allow for 
> job evolution. The dynamically generated uid is not guaranteed to remain the 
> same if the job has changed, i.e. adding/removing operators in the job graph. 
> If you want to reuse state after job evolution, you need to set the uid 
> explicitly.
> 
> So for the example you give, I think you don't need to specify the uid for 
> the map and print operator.
> 
> [1] 
> https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-master/ops/upgrading.html#matching-operator-state
>  
> <https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-master/ops/upgrading.html#matching-operator-state>
> [2] 
> https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/fd511c345eac31f03b801ff19dbf1f8c86aae760/flink-streaming-java/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/streaming/api/graph/StreamGraphHasherV2.java#L78
>  
> <https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/fd511c345eac31f03b801ff19dbf1f8c86aae760/flink-streaming-java/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/streaming/api/graph/StreamGraphHasherV2.java#L78>
>> 在 2019年10月24日,下午11:22,min@ubs.com <mailto:min@ubs.com> 写道:
>> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I have some simple questions on the uid as well.
>>  
>> 1)  Do we add a uid for every operator e.g. print(), addSink and 
>> addSource?
>> 2)  For chained operators, do we need to uids for each operator? Or just 
>> the last operator?
>> e.g. .map().uid("some-id").print().uid("print-id");
>>  
>>  
>> Regards,
>>  
>> Min
>>  
>> From: John Smith [mailto:java.dev@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:java.dev@gmail.com>] 
>> Sent: Donnerstag, 24. Oktober 2019 16:32
>> To: Dian Fu
>> Cc: user
>> Subject: [External] Re: Does operator uid() have to be unique across all 
>> jobs?
>>  
>> Ok cool. Thanks
>> 
>> BTW this seems a bit cumbersome...
>> 
>> .map().uid("some-id").name("some-id");
>>  
>> On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 21:13, Dian Fu > <mailto:dian0511...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Yes, you can use it in another job. The uid needs only to be unique within a 
>> job.
>> 
>> > 在 2019年10月24日,上午5:42,John Smith > > <mailto:java.dev@gmail.com>> 写道:
>> > 
>> > When setting uid() of an operator does it have to be unique across all 
>> > jobs or just unique within a job?
>> > 
>> > For example can I use env.addSource(myKafkaConsumer).uid("kafka-consumer") 
>> > in another job?
>> 
>> 
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Re: Does operator uid() have to be unique across all jobs?

2019-10-24 Thread Dian Fu
Hi Min,

The uid is used to matching the operator state stored in the 
checkpoint/savepoint to an operator[1]. So you only need to specify the uid for 
stateful operators.
1) If you have not specified the uid for an operator, it will generate a uid 
for it in a deterministic way[2] for it. The generated uid doesn't change for 
the same job.
2) However, it's encouraged to set uid for stateful operators to allow for job 
evolution. The dynamically generated uid is not guaranteed to remain the same 
if the job has changed, i.e. adding/removing operators in the job graph. If you 
want to reuse state after job evolution, you need to set the uid explicitly.

So for the example you give, I think you don't need to specify the uid for the 
map and print operator.

[1] 
https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-master/ops/upgrading.html#matching-operator-state
 
<https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-master/ops/upgrading.html#matching-operator-state>
[2] 
https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/fd511c345eac31f03b801ff19dbf1f8c86aae760/flink-streaming-java/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/streaming/api/graph/StreamGraphHasherV2.java#L78
 
<https://github.com/apache/flink/blob/fd511c345eac31f03b801ff19dbf1f8c86aae760/flink-streaming-java/src/main/java/org/apache/flink/streaming/api/graph/StreamGraphHasherV2.java#L78>
> 在 2019年10月24日,下午11:22,min@ubs.com 写道:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I have some simple questions on the uid as well.
>  
> 1)  Do we add a uid for every operator e.g. print(), addSink and 
> addSource?
> 2)  For chained operators, do we need to uids for each operator? Or just 
> the last operator?
> e.g. .map().uid("some-id").print().uid("print-id");
>  
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Min
>  
> From: John Smith [mailto:java.dev@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Donnerstag, 24. Oktober 2019 16:32
> To: Dian Fu
> Cc: user
> Subject: [External] Re: Does operator uid() have to be unique across all jobs?
>  
> Ok cool. Thanks
> 
> BTW this seems a bit cumbersome...
> 
> .map().uid("some-id").name("some-id");
>  
> On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 21:13, Dian Fu  <mailto:dian0511...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Yes, you can use it in another job. The uid needs only to be unique within a 
> job.
> 
> > 在 2019年10月24日,上午5:42,John Smith  > <mailto:java.dev@gmail.com>> 写道:
> > 
> > When setting uid() of an operator does it have to be unique across all jobs 
> > or just unique within a job?
> > 
> > For example can I use env.addSource(myKafkaConsumer).uid("kafka-consumer") 
> > in another job?
> 
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RE: Does operator uid() have to be unique across all jobs?

2019-10-24 Thread min.tan
Hi,

I have some simple questions on the uid as well.


1)  Do we add a uid for every operator e.g. print(), addSink and addSource?

2)  For chained operators, do we need to uids for each operator? Or just 
the last operator?

e.g. .map().uid("some-id").print().uid("print-id");




Regards,


Min

From: John Smith [mailto:java.dev@gmail.com]
Sent: Donnerstag, 24. Oktober 2019 16:32
To: Dian Fu
Cc: user
Subject: [External] Re: Does operator uid() have to be unique across all jobs?

Ok cool. Thanks

BTW this seems a bit cumbersome...

.map().uid("some-id").name("some-id");

On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 21:13, Dian Fu 
mailto:dian0511...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yes, you can use it in another job. The uid needs only to be unique within a 
job.

> 在 2019年10月24日,上午5:42,John Smith 
> mailto:java.dev@gmail.com>> 写道:
>
> When setting uid() of an operator does it have to be unique across all jobs 
> or just unique within a job?
>
> For example can I use env.addSource(myKafkaConsumer).uid("kafka-consumer") in 
> another job?

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Re: Does operator uid() have to be unique across all jobs?

2019-10-24 Thread John Smith
Ok cool. Thanks

BTW this seems a bit cumbersome...

.map().uid("some-id").name("some-id");

On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 at 21:13, Dian Fu  wrote:

> Yes, you can use it in another job. The uid needs only to be unique within
> a job.
>
> > 在 2019年10月24日,上午5:42,John Smith  写道:
> >
> > When setting uid() of an operator does it have to be unique across all
> jobs or just unique within a job?
> >
> > For example can I use
> env.addSource(myKafkaConsumer).uid("kafka-consumer") in another job?
>
>


Re: Does operator uid() have to be unique across all jobs?

2019-10-23 Thread Dian Fu
Yes, you can use it in another job. The uid needs only to be unique within a 
job.

> 在 2019年10月24日,上午5:42,John Smith  写道:
> 
> When setting uid() of an operator does it have to be unique across all jobs 
> or just unique within a job?
> 
> For example can I use env.addSource(myKafkaConsumer).uid("kafka-consumer") in 
> another job?