Re: What are the specifics steps for manual deployment ?
David Thanks for the clarification, I will try to follow the hints, Viola and you gave me. Regards Carlos djencks wrote: > > > On Jun 19, 2009, at 6:04 PM, caof2005 wrote: > >> >> Hello folks, >> >> With a newbe questions/request: >> >> Can anybody refer me to any document/link which indicate me which >> are the >> steps to do a manual deployment without using the deployment tool >> (deploy ) >> ? >> >> I'm using Geronimo 2.1.3 with Tomcat 6 >> >> I tried to follow the oldie/classic example of building a dynamic >> project by >> hand (no IDE's, nor deploy tool at all) just using the java, javac >> and jar >> command line tools. > > Why? I can't begin to enumerate all the mistakes you can make setting > up even a simple javaee project with these tools. At least use maven, > it will make it much more plausible that you will end up with a > correct artifact structure. > > Since you seem to be interested in using spec-compliant tools you > should use our jsr-88 deployer. This is the only spec-compliant way > to deploy an ee application to an ee server. The command line > interface of our deployer is not specified by the spec but the > communication between the tool and the server is, so you can use > another jsr-88 deployer if you can find one. > >> >> So I tried to manually define the basic directory deployment >> structure shown >> in 4.X, 5.X versions of Tomcat: >> >> webapps >> --MyApp_Directory >> ---WEB-INF >> web.xml >> geronimo-web.xml >> lib >> classes >> com >> example >> ---web >> --classA.class >> ---model >> --classB.class >> >> But I couldn't find any "tomcat" directory in Geronimo installation >> directory which I can define inside that structure. > > Tomcat's deployment mechanism is proprietary and not related to any ee > specs. We don't use it. > >> >> So the question is am I assuming correctly that I can manually >> define >> the deployment structure as I can do it in older versions of Tomcat? > no. When an app is deployed in geronimo it constructs a geronimo > plugin which in particular includes a file of serialized component > configuration. You can't construct one of these without deploying the > app in geronimo. > >> Or do I have to use the deployment tool (deploy) in order to >> manually deploy >> any application ? >> > > There's a hot deploy directory but I really recommend against using > it. It's really not tooling friendly: for example there's no way to > tell if deployment has started, finished, or failed without using > something like the deploy tool with more complicated instructions that > deploying the app would use. > > You can use the gshell based deploy commands, deploy from maven, the > command line deployer, the console. > > My favorite is to build a geronimo plugin using maven and the car- > maven-plugin and assemble a server around your application that has > exactly the functionality needed for the app. > > I hope this relates to your questions > > thanks > david jencks > > >> Any guidance would be very appreciated. >> Regards >> Carlos >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/What-are-the-specifics-steps-for-manual-deployment---tp24120872s134p24120872.html >> Sent from the Apache Geronimo - Users mailing list archive at >> Nabble.com. >> > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/What-are-the-specifics-steps-for-manual-deployment---tp24120872s134p24137265.html Sent from the Apache Geronimo - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: What are the specifics steps for manual deployment ?
On Jun 21, 2009, at 12:09 AM, caof2005 wrote: Thanks viola So just to confirm. I can see the $your_geronimo_install_Dir\repository\org\apache\tomcat directory you indicate me,... but please excuse my clumsiness because I see inside "tomcat" directory others subdirectories: -catalina 6.0.14-G614585 ---catalina-6.0.14-G614585 -catalina-ha -coyote -extras -jasper -jasper-el -jasper-dt -juli -tribes So I found difficult to know which is the correct one... (I mean the one that I should consider as CATALINA_HOME/webapps ). If I use catalina as CATALINA_HOME, do I have to define inside the webapps directory ? There is no "webapps" directory in Geronimo. However, you can treat the /deploy directory as the equivalent. Place your war or MyApp_Directory in the /deploy/ directory, instead. --kevan
Re: What are the specifics steps for manual deployment ?
Thanks viola So just to confirm. I can see the $your_geronimo_install_Dir\repository\org\apache\tomcat directory you indicate me,... but please excuse my clumsiness because I see inside "tomcat" directory others subdirectories: -catalina 6.0.14-G614585 ---catalina-6.0.14-G614585 -catalina-ha -coyote -extras -jasper -jasper-el -jasper-dt -juli -tribes So I found difficult to know which is the correct one... (I mean the one that I should consider as CATALINA_HOME/webapps ). If I use catalina as CATALINA_HOME, do I have to define inside the webapps directory ? Could you just guide me on this, please? Thank you. Carlos viola.lu wrote: > > You should use deploy command or hot deploy(just copy your app to deloy > folder like in tomcat) to deploy your application following > http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC22/deploying-and-undeploying-applications.html > > And in geronimo, tomcat is in > $your_geronimo_install_Dir\repository\org\apache\tomcat > > Your web app structure seems fine(geronimo web app structure same as > tomcat, just an extra geronimo-web.xml. which is geronimo specific > deployment plan), i recommend your can use Geronimo Eclipse plugin in > eclipse to simplify your develop work, you can install GEP follwoing > http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC21/how-to-install-geronimo-eclipse-plugin.html, > and how to develop in it follwoing > http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC21/how-to-use-geronimo-eclipse-plugin.html#HowtoUseGeronimoEclipsePlugin-DeployRunUndeployandRedeployanApplication. > > You can find out more help from Geronimo 2.1 doc link: > http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC21/ in your development process. > > > Your > > I think whether > > caof2005 wrote: >> >> Hello folks, >> >> With a newbe questions/request: >> >> Can anybody refer me to any document/link which indicate me which are the >> steps to do a manual deployment without using the deployment tool (deploy >> ) ? >> >> I'm using Geronimo 2.1.3 with Tomcat 6 >> >> I tried to follow the oldie/classic example of building a dynamic project >> by hand (no IDE's, nor deploy tool at all) just using the java, javac and >> jar command line tools. >> >> So I tried to manually define the basic directory deployment structure >> shown in 4.X, 5.X versions of Tomcat: >> >> webapps >> --MyApp_Directory >> ---WEB-INF >> web.xml >> geronimo-web.xml >> lib >> classes >> com >> example >> ---web >> --classA.class >> ---model >> --classB.class >> >> But I couldn't find any "tomcat" directory in Geronimo installation >> directory which I can define inside that structure. >> >> So the question is am I assuming correctly that I can manually >> define the deployment structure as I can do it in older versions of >> Tomcat? >> Or do I have to use the deployment tool (deploy) in order to manually >> deploy any application ? >> >> Any guidance would be very appreciated. >> Regards >> Carlos >> > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/What-are-the-specifics-steps-for-manual-deployment---tp24120872s134p24131430.html Sent from the Apache Geronimo - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: What are the specifics steps for manual deployment ?
On Jun 19, 2009, at 6:04 PM, caof2005 wrote: Hello folks, With a newbe questions/request: Can anybody refer me to any document/link which indicate me which are the steps to do a manual deployment without using the deployment tool (deploy ) ? I'm using Geronimo 2.1.3 with Tomcat 6 I tried to follow the oldie/classic example of building a dynamic project by hand (no IDE's, nor deploy tool at all) just using the java, javac and jar command line tools. Why? I can't begin to enumerate all the mistakes you can make setting up even a simple javaee project with these tools. At least use maven, it will make it much more plausible that you will end up with a correct artifact structure. Since you seem to be interested in using spec-compliant tools you should use our jsr-88 deployer. This is the only spec-compliant way to deploy an ee application to an ee server. The command line interface of our deployer is not specified by the spec but the communication between the tool and the server is, so you can use another jsr-88 deployer if you can find one. So I tried to manually define the basic directory deployment structure shown in 4.X, 5.X versions of Tomcat: webapps --MyApp_Directory ---WEB-INF web.xml geronimo-web.xml lib classes com example ---web --classA.class ---model --classB.class But I couldn't find any "tomcat" directory in Geronimo installation directory which I can define inside that structure. Tomcat's deployment mechanism is proprietary and not related to any ee specs. We don't use it. So the question is am I assuming correctly that I can manually define the deployment structure as I can do it in older versions of Tomcat? no. When an app is deployed in geronimo it constructs a geronimo plugin which in particular includes a file of serialized component configuration. You can't construct one of these without deploying the app in geronimo. Or do I have to use the deployment tool (deploy) in order to manually deploy any application ? There's a hot deploy directory but I really recommend against using it. It's really not tooling friendly: for example there's no way to tell if deployment has started, finished, or failed without using something like the deploy tool with more complicated instructions that deploying the app would use. You can use the gshell based deploy commands, deploy from maven, the command line deployer, the console. My favorite is to build a geronimo plugin using maven and the car- maven-plugin and assemble a server around your application that has exactly the functionality needed for the app. I hope this relates to your questions thanks david jencks Any guidance would be very appreciated. Regards Carlos -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/What-are-the-specifics-steps-for-manual-deployment---tp24120872s134p24120872.html Sent from the Apache Geronimo - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: What are the specifics steps for manual deployment ?
You should use deploy command or hot deploy(just copy your app to deloy folder like in tomcat) to deploy your application following http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC22/deploying-and-undeploying-applications.html And in geronimo, tomcat is in $your_geronimo_install_Dir\repository\org\apache\tomcat Your web app structure seems fine(geronimo web app structure same as tomcat, just an extra geronimo-web.xml. which is geronimo specific deployment plan), i recommend your can use Geronimo Eclipse plugin in eclipse to simplify your develop work, you can install GEP follwoing http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC21/how-to-install-geronimo-eclipse-plugin.html, and how to develop in it follwoing http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC21/how-to-use-geronimo-eclipse-plugin.html#HowtoUseGeronimoEclipsePlugin-DeployRunUndeployandRedeployanApplication. You can find out more help from Geronimo 2.1 doc link: http://cwiki.apache.org/GMOxDOC21/ in your development process. Your I think whether caof2005 wrote: > > Hello folks, > > With a newbe questions/request: > > Can anybody refer me to any document/link which indicate me which are the > steps to do a manual deployment without using the deployment tool (deploy > ) ? > > I'm using Geronimo 2.1.3 with Tomcat 6 > > I tried to follow the oldie/classic example of building a dynamic project > by hand (no IDE's, nor deploy tool at all) just using the java, javac and > jar command line tools. > > So I tried to manually define the basic directory deployment structure > shown in 4.X, 5.X versions of Tomcat: > > webapps > --MyApp_Directory > ---WEB-INF > web.xml > geronimo-web.xml > lib > classes > com > example > ---web > --classA.class > ---model > --classB.class > > But I couldn't find any "tomcat" directory in Geronimo installation > directory which I can define inside that structure. > > So the question is am I assuming correctly that I can manually define > the deployment structure as I can do it in older versions of Tomcat? > Or do I have to use the deployment tool (deploy) in order to manually > deploy any application ? > > Any guidance would be very appreciated. > Regards > Carlos > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/What-are-the-specifics-steps-for-manual-deployment---tp24120872s134p24121051.html Sent from the Apache Geronimo - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
What are the specifics steps for manual deployment ?
Hello folks, With a newbe questions/request: Can anybody refer me to any document/link which indicate me which are the steps to do a manual deployment without using the deployment tool (deploy ) ? I'm using Geronimo 2.1.3 with Tomcat 6 I tried to follow the oldie/classic example of building a dynamic project by hand (no IDE's, nor deploy tool at all) just using the java, javac and jar command line tools. So I tried to manually define the basic directory deployment structure shown in 4.X, 5.X versions of Tomcat: webapps --MyApp_Directory ---WEB-INF web.xml geronimo-web.xml lib classes com example ---web --classA.class ---model --classB.class But I couldn't find any "tomcat" directory in Geronimo installation directory which I can define inside that structure. So the question is am I assuming correctly that I can manually define the deployment structure as I can do it in older versions of Tomcat? Or do I have to use the deployment tool (deploy) in order to manually deploy any application ? Any guidance would be very appreciated. Regards Carlos -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/What-are-the-specifics-steps-for-manual-deployment---tp24120872s134p24120872.html Sent from the Apache Geronimo - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
