David

Thanks for the clarification, I will try to follow the hints, Viola and you
gave me.

Regards
Carlos



djencks wrote:
> 
> 
> On Jun 19, 2009, at 6:04 PM, caof2005 wrote:
> 
>>
>> Hello folks,
>>
>> With a newbe questions/request:
>>
>> Can anybody refer me to any document/link which indicate me which  
>> are the
>> steps to do a manual deployment without using the deployment tool  
>> (deploy )
>> ?
>>
>> I'm using Geronimo 2.1.3 with Tomcat 6
>>
>> I tried to follow the oldie/classic example of building a dynamic  
>> project by
>> hand (no IDE's, nor deploy tool at all) just using the java, javac  
>> and jar
>> command line tools.
> 
> Why?  I can't begin to enumerate all the mistakes you can make setting  
> up even a simple javaee project with these tools. At least use maven,  
> it will make it much more plausible that you will end up with a  
> correct artifact structure.
> 
> Since you seem to be interested in using spec-compliant tools you  
> should use our jsr-88 deployer.  This is the only spec-compliant way  
> to deploy an ee application to an ee server.  The command line  
> interface of our deployer is not specified by the spec but the  
> communication between the tool and the server is, so you can use  
> another jsr-88 deployer if you can find one.
> 
>>
>> So I tried to manually define the basic directory deployment  
>> structure shown
>> in 4.X, 5.X versions of Tomcat:
>>
>> webapps
>> --MyApp_Directory
>> ---WEB-INF
>> ----web.xml
>> ----geronimo-web.xml
>> ----lib
>> ----classes
>> ----com
>> ----example
>> -------web
>> ----------classA.class
>> -------model
>> ----------classB.class
>>
>> But I couldn't find any "tomcat" directory in Geronimo installation
>> directory which I can define inside that structure.
> 
> Tomcat's deployment mechanism is proprietary and not related to any ee  
> specs.  We don't use it.
> 
>>
>> So the question is .... am I assuming correctly that I can manually  
>> define
>> the deployment structure as I can do it in older versions of Tomcat?
> no.  When an app is deployed in geronimo it constructs a geronimo  
> plugin which in particular includes a file of serialized component  
> configuration.  You can't construct one of these without deploying the  
> app in geronimo.
> 
>> Or do I have to use the deployment tool (deploy) in order to  
>> manually deploy
>> any application ?
>>
> 
> There's a hot deploy directory but I really recommend against using  
> it.  It's really not tooling friendly: for example there's no way to  
> tell if deployment has started, finished, or failed without using  
> something like the deploy tool with more complicated instructions that  
> deploying the app would use.
> 
> You can use the gshell based deploy commands, deploy from maven, the  
> command line deployer, the console.
> 
> My favorite is to build a geronimo plugin using maven and the car- 
> maven-plugin and assemble a server around your application that has  
> exactly the functionality needed for the app.
> 
> I hope this relates to your questions....
> 
> thanks
> david jencks
> 
> 
>> Any guidance would be very appreciated.
>> Regards
>> Carlos
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