Re: Is it a good idea to delete / move the default configuration xml file ?

[Chris MacKenzie]

Hi thanks for that, much appreciated.

I guess they are in the jar files then ;O) I was really surprised to see
the default configs pulled in, especially considering I thought I was in
full control, I did a file search on an installation and saw the files and
jumped to the wrong conclusion.

I feel like a real idiot some times, but there is so much conflicting
information out there that later you realise that questions asked seem non
sensical but at the time they feel valid ;O)


Thanks for your tolerance,

Chris MacKenzie
telephone: 0131 332 6967
email: stu...@chrismackenziephotography.co.uk
corporate: www.chrismackenziephotography.co.uk









On 21/07/2014 09:46, "Chris MacKenzie"
 wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>I have just realised that my implementation of hadoop-2.4.1 is pulling in
>all the default.xml files.
>
>I have three copies of each in different directories, obviously at least
>one of those is on the class path.
>
>Anyway with all the effort to set up a site, it seems strange to me that I
>would use settings I had no idea existed and that may not be how I would
>choose to set them up.
>
>
>Regards,
>
>Chris MacKenzie
>telephone: 0131 332 6967
>email: stu...@chrismackenziephotography.co.uk
>corporate: www.chrismackenziephotography.co.uk
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Is it a good idea to delete / move the default configuration xml file ?

[Chris Mawata]

I suspect someone wanted to read through them to know tge defaults.
Chris
On Jul 21, 2014 2:16 PM, "Chris Nauroth"  wrote:

> That's a good point.  I'm not sure how bare *-default.xml files would be
> showing up on a deployment outside the jars.
>
> Chris Nauroth
> Hortonworks
> http://hortonworks.com/
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Chris Mawata 
> wrote:
>
>> Aren't the *-default.xml files supposed to be inside the jars rather than
>> loose files?
>> Cheers
>> Chris Mawata
>> On Jul 21, 2014 12:59 PM, "Chris Nauroth" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I recommend against deleting or moving *-default.xml, because these
>>> files may be supplying reasonable default values for configuration
>>> properties that you haven't set in *-site.xml.  We also put defaults into
>>> the code itself in case a configuration property is found to be completely
>>> missing, but I'm not aware of any actual testing of deployments that have
>>> deleted *-default.xml.
>>>
>>> Chris Nauroth
>>> Hortonworks
>>> http://hortonworks.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 1:46 AM, Chris MacKenzie <
>>> stu...@chrismackenziephotography.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
 Hi All,

 I have just realised that my implementation of hadoop-2.4.1 is pulling
 in
 all the default.xml files.

 I have three copies of each in different directories, obviously at least
 one of those is on the class path.

 Anyway with all the effort to set up a site, it seems strange to me
 that I
 would use settings I had no idea existed and that may not be how I would
 choose to set them up.


 Regards,

 Chris MacKenzie
 telephone: 0131 332 6967
 email: stu...@chrismackenziephotography.co.uk
 corporate: www.chrismackenziephotography.co.uk
 
 
 



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Re: Is it a good idea to delete / move the default configuration xml file ?

[Chris Nauroth]

That's a good point.  I'm not sure how bare *-default.xml files would be
showing up on a deployment outside the jars.

Chris Nauroth
Hortonworks
http://hortonworks.com/



On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Chris Mawata 
wrote:

> Aren't the *-default.xml files supposed to be inside the jars rather than
> loose files?
> Cheers
> Chris Mawata
> On Jul 21, 2014 12:59 PM, "Chris Nauroth" 
> wrote:
>
>> I recommend against deleting or moving *-default.xml, because these files
>> may be supplying reasonable default values for configuration properties
>> that you haven't set in *-site.xml.  We also put defaults into the code
>> itself in case a configuration property is found to be completely missing,
>> but I'm not aware of any actual testing of deployments that have deleted
>> *-default.xml.
>>
>> Chris Nauroth
>> Hortonworks
>> http://hortonworks.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 1:46 AM, Chris MacKenzie <
>> stu...@chrismackenziephotography.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I have just realised that my implementation of hadoop-2.4.1 is pulling in
>>> all the default.xml files.
>>>
>>> I have three copies of each in different directories, obviously at least
>>> one of those is on the class path.
>>>
>>> Anyway with all the effort to set up a site, it seems strange to me that
>>> I
>>> would use settings I had no idea existed and that may not be how I would
>>> choose to set them up.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Chris MacKenzie
>>> telephone: 0131 332 6967
>>> email: stu...@chrismackenziephotography.co.uk
>>> corporate: www.chrismackenziephotography.co.uk
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Is it a good idea to delete / move the default configuration xml file ?

[Chris Mawata]

Aren't the *-default.xml files supposed to be inside the jars rather than
loose files?
Cheers
Chris Mawata
On Jul 21, 2014 12:59 PM, "Chris Nauroth"  wrote:

> I recommend against deleting or moving *-default.xml, because these files
> may be supplying reasonable default values for configuration properties
> that you haven't set in *-site.xml.  We also put defaults into the code
> itself in case a configuration property is found to be completely missing,
> but I'm not aware of any actual testing of deployments that have deleted
> *-default.xml.
>
> Chris Nauroth
> Hortonworks
> http://hortonworks.com/
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 1:46 AM, Chris MacKenzie <
> stu...@chrismackenziephotography.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have just realised that my implementation of hadoop-2.4.1 is pulling in
>> all the default.xml files.
>>
>> I have three copies of each in different directories, obviously at least
>> one of those is on the class path.
>>
>> Anyway with all the effort to set up a site, it seems strange to me that I
>> would use settings I had no idea existed and that may not be how I would
>> choose to set them up.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Chris MacKenzie
>> telephone: 0131 332 6967
>> email: stu...@chrismackenziephotography.co.uk
>> corporate: www.chrismackenziephotography.co.uk
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Is it a good idea to delete / move the default configuration xml file ?

[Chris Nauroth]

I recommend against deleting or moving *-default.xml, because these files
may be supplying reasonable default values for configuration properties
that you haven't set in *-site.xml.  We also put defaults into the code
itself in case a configuration property is found to be completely missing,
but I'm not aware of any actual testing of deployments that have deleted
*-default.xml.

Chris Nauroth
Hortonworks
http://hortonworks.com/



On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 1:46 AM, Chris MacKenzie <
stu...@chrismackenziephotography.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I have just realised that my implementation of hadoop-2.4.1 is pulling in
> all the default.xml files.
>
> I have three copies of each in different directories, obviously at least
> one of those is on the class path.
>
> Anyway with all the effort to set up a site, it seems strange to me that I
> would use settings I had no idea existed and that may not be how I would
> choose to set them up.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Chris MacKenzie
> telephone: 0131 332 6967
> email: stu...@chrismackenziephotography.co.uk
> corporate: www.chrismackenziephotography.co.uk
> 
> 
> 
>
>
>

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Is it a good idea to delete / move the default configuration xml file ?

[Chris MacKenzie]

Hi All,

I have just realised that my implementation of hadoop-2.4.1 is pulling in
all the default.xml files.

I have three copies of each in different directories, obviously at least
one of those is on the class path.

Anyway with all the effort to set up a site, it seems strange to me that I
would use settings I had no idea existed and that may not be how I would
choose to set them up.


Regards,

Chris MacKenzie
telephone: 0131 332 6967
email: stu...@chrismackenziephotography.co.uk
corporate: www.chrismackenziephotography.co.uk