Re: Voting the new release

2014-03-24 Thread Pierre Smits
Jacques,

It is generally better to resolve the existing bugs before the release is
cut. Specifically those regarding security. Having a release with security
issues is an easy target for competing products (marketing wise).

And, throwing the special purpose apps out before means are available to
put them back in is like throwing your shoes out before you have new ones.

Regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services  Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail  Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com


Re: Voting the new release

2014-03-24 Thread Pierre Smits
Jacques,

When you look at the list of the issues related to R13.07, you'll see that
the majority of that list existed before the start of the vote procedure
and patches are available.

These issues (with patches) could have easily been tested, committed (when
good) and resolved before the cut date. Thus giving (new) users the best
experience possible with the new release.

Regards,


Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services  Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail  Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com


Re: Voting the new release

2014-03-22 Thread Jacques Le Roux

Pierre,

Le 20/03/2014 16:28, Pierre Smits a écrit :

Jacopo,

Thank you for making the OFBiz 13.07.01 release available for download and
testing.

I have run the tests available in the release and only 1 failed.
Test 'testCreateManyAndStoreOneAtATime' in entitytests raised a failure,
but given the description of the failure it can be regarded as a minor
issue.

Also, testing for the multi-tenancy aspect (as per
OFBIZ-4130https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4130and
OFBIZ-5319 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-5319), the
security threat - as described in those issues - still exists. It is a pity
that resolving this didn't make it before the cutoff date of this release.
But I trust you will mention the potential threat in the release notes
after the conclusion of the vote and the subsequent release.


No worries, if they are bugs they will be backported to releases


As for not including good special purpose apps, I trust that mechanisms
will be put in place  (in short time) to ensure that users can still access
and apply those applications in their 13.07 setup, without having to go
through the developer way of working (checkout and code adjustment). Such
mechanisms would show that OFBiz there is more to it than current release
does.


This is a good idea, but It will not happen all of the sudden. We need to 
organize things around to have a least a hope something will happen...
To begin, I suggest a Jira with requirements and ideas how to do.



It is a pity that formal voting on each of the special purpose applications
- to ensure due process - didn't occur in the dev ML, given the
controversies as stated in mail thread
http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Lose-Weight-Program-for-OFBiz-td4481845i40.html.
It would also have ensured that creation and/or adjustment of policy and
other document(s) could be planned and effect to reflect the new situation.


Everyone can begin a vote (even if only committers voices count). Of course 
it's too late now...

Jacques



Regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services  Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail  Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com


On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Jacopo Cappellato 
jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com wrote:


Hi all,

this is just to inform you that in the dev mailing list (
d...@ofbiz.apache.org) it is taking place a vote to issue the new release
Apache OFBiz 13.07.01 (the vote will last for 5 days).
If you are interested in getting more involved with the project then
testing the release and participating to the vote is a good way to start.

Here are a few miscellaneous tasks that you could do to help:
* download the candidate release files
* check the signatures
* verify the integrity of the zip file
* build the system (with seed data only and/or with demo data)
* verify if the automated tests pass
* test the applications (at least some of the workflows you are more
comfortable with)
* check if the LICENSE and NOTICE files are complete

When you finally cast your vote, it would be great to mention the tests
that you did.
For any doubts or questions please use this thread rather than the voting
thread in the dev list.

Thanks,

Jacopo




Re: Voting the new release

2014-03-20 Thread Vyom Jain
Hi Jacopo,

I've been doing random tests, the major issue that has noticed  reported
is OFBIZ-5565 [https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-5565], in case
if we don't have an immediate for the same, then might be good to mention
this in an open issues section.

I also think the data migration as indicated by Adam Heath [
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ofbiz-user/201403.mbox/%3C53193B72.2060902%40brainfood.com%3E]
should be mentioned in Revisions Requiring Data Migration (upgrade ofbiz)
[https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=7045166].
Adrian Crum had also shared a link [
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ofbiz-user/201311.mbox/%3c5290b01c.8090...@sandglass-software.com%3E]
for password migration.



--
Vyom


On 20 March 2014 14:39, Jacopo Cappellato jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com
 wrote:

 Hi all,

 this is just to inform you that in the dev mailing list (
 d...@ofbiz.apache.org) it is taking place a vote to issue the new release
 Apache OFBiz 13.07.01 (the vote will last for 5 days).
 If you are interested in getting more involved with the project then
 testing the release and participating to the vote is a good way to start.

 Here are a few miscellaneous tasks that you could do to help:
 * download the candidate release files
 * check the signatures
 * verify the integrity of the zip file
 * build the system (with seed data only and/or with demo data)
 * verify if the automated tests pass
 * test the applications (at least some of the workflows you are more
 comfortable with)
 * check if the LICENSE and NOTICE files are complete

 When you finally cast your vote, it would be great to mention the tests
 that you did.
 For any doubts or questions please use this thread rather than the voting
 thread in the dev list.

 Thanks,

 Jacopo




RE: Voting the new release

2014-03-20 Thread Ejaz Ahmed
The candidate release files can be downloaded from here:
 
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/ofbiz/

Regards:

Ejaz Ahmed





 From: jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com
 Subject: Voting the new release
 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 10:09:58 +0100
 To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
 
 Hi all,
 
 this is just to inform you that in the dev mailing list 
 (d...@ofbiz.apache.org) it is taking place a vote to issue the new release 
 Apache OFBiz 13.07.01 (the vote will last for 5 days).
 If you are interested in getting more involved with the project then testing 
 the release and participating to the vote is a good way to start.
 
 Here are a few miscellaneous tasks that you could do to help:
 * download the candidate release files
 * check the signatures
 * verify the integrity of the zip file
 * build the system (with seed data only and/or with demo data)
 * verify if the automated tests pass
 * test the applications (at least some of the workflows you are more 
 comfortable with)
 * check if the LICENSE and NOTICE files are complete
 
 When you finally cast your vote, it would be great to mention the tests that 
 you did.
 For any doubts or questions please use this thread rather than the voting 
 thread in the dev list.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Jacopo
 
  

Re: Voting the new release

2014-03-20 Thread Pierre Smits
Jacopo,

Thank you for making the OFBiz 13.07.01 release available for download and
testing.

I have run the tests available in the release and only 1 failed.
Test 'testCreateManyAndStoreOneAtATime' in entitytests raised a failure,
but given the description of the failure it can be regarded as a minor
issue.

Also, testing for the multi-tenancy aspect (as per
OFBIZ-4130https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-4130and
OFBIZ-5319 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-5319), the
security threat - as described in those issues - still exists. It is a pity
that resolving this didn't make it before the cutoff date of this release.
But I trust you will mention the potential threat in the release notes
after the conclusion of the vote and the subsequent release.

As for not including good special purpose apps, I trust that mechanisms
will be put in place  (in short time) to ensure that users can still access
and apply those applications in their 13.07 setup, without having to go
through the developer way of working (checkout and code adjustment). Such
mechanisms would show that OFBiz there is more to it than current release
does.

It is a pity that formal voting on each of the special purpose applications
- to ensure due process - didn't occur in the dev ML, given the
controversies as stated in mail thread
http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/Lose-Weight-Program-for-OFBiz-td4481845i40.html.
It would also have ensured that creation and/or adjustment of policy and
other document(s) could be planned and effect to reflect the new situation.

Regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM http://www.orrtiz.com*
Services  Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail  Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com


On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Jacopo Cappellato 
jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 this is just to inform you that in the dev mailing list (
 d...@ofbiz.apache.org) it is taking place a vote to issue the new release
 Apache OFBiz 13.07.01 (the vote will last for 5 days).
 If you are interested in getting more involved with the project then
 testing the release and participating to the vote is a good way to start.

 Here are a few miscellaneous tasks that you could do to help:
 * download the candidate release files
 * check the signatures
 * verify the integrity of the zip file
 * build the system (with seed data only and/or with demo data)
 * verify if the automated tests pass
 * test the applications (at least some of the workflows you are more
 comfortable with)
 * check if the LICENSE and NOTICE files are complete

 When you finally cast your vote, it would be great to mention the tests
 that you did.
 For any doubts or questions please use this thread rather than the voting
 thread in the dev list.

 Thanks,

 Jacopo