Re: OpenMeetings in clusterings mode
Okay, I see. Thanks Mr Maxim Best Regards Le ven. 24 sept. 2021 à 05:08, Maxim Solodovnik a écrit : > > > On Wed, 15 Sept 2021 at 19:43, Aom Jeff Root > wrote: > >> Hi Mr Maxim >> >>> *I hope my description makes sense :)* >>> >>> Of course after several tests performed and conclusion, I had the same >> result. >> >> Thanks Mr Sebatian. >> >>> *Il y a eu une autre discussion récente (plus technique) sur les >>> différents modes/questions de regroupement sur cette liste de diffusion qui >>> pourrait valoir la peine d'être lue :* >>> *https://markmail.org/message/w55hh7ri2tmtlnvt* >>> <https://markmail.org/message/w55hh7ri2tmtlnvt> >>> >>> *Surtout aussi autour de l'aspect des tests de performance et de la >>> mesure des limites de capacité. Ainsi que comment optimiser l'utilisation >>> du matériel/réseau lorsque la demande augmente.* >>> >> >> >> with the cluster mode, each node has an url/ip. Can we configure >> hazelcast.xml or elsewhere something (unique url) users will access and >> they will not know if they are redirected or not. Like when one node is >> down, they will continue work but on nodes available (up) ? To make >> availability service. >> > > This *might be* possible, but will complicate the configuration > And will require to change source code and recompile > > >> Kind regards, >> Jeffrey. >> >> Le mer. 8 sept. 2021 à 21:57, seba.wag...@gmail.com < >> seba.wag...@gmail.com> a écrit : >> >>> There was another recent (more technical) discussion about different >>> clustering modes/questions on this mailing list that might be worth reading: >>> https://markmail.org/message/w55hh7ri2tmtlnvt >>> >>> Especially also around the performance testing aspect >>> and measuring capacity limits. As well as how to optimise the >>> hardware/network usage when demand scales up. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Sebastian >>> >>> Sebastian Wagner >>> Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com >>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ >>> https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server Hosting for HTML5 >>> Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings >>> >>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> >>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, 9 Sept 2021 at 03:27, Maxim Solodovnik >>> wrote: >>> >>>> The current balancer is hardcoded and have no options for tuning (maybe >>>> yet, ideas are welcome) >>>> >>>> The clustering is room-based >>>> So if you have 2 nodes >>>> >>>> First user accessing the roomA will use node1, >>>> all other users entering roomA will be redirected to node1 >>>> >>>> If userB will enter roomB he/she will be redirected to node2 >>>> As well as all other users entering roomB >>>> >>>> if userC will enter roomC - the clustering logic will check >>>> 1) if free nodes exists >>>> 2) IF NOT: roomA and roomB capacity will be checked >>>> Node with smaller total capacity will be used >>>> >>>> i.e. if roomA is personal room for max. 15 users and roomB is public >>>> room with max. 150 users >>>> roomC will be opened at node1 >>>> >>>> I hope my description makes sense :) >>>> >>>> On Fri, 3 Sept 2021 at 09:46, Aom Jeff Root >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> I have some questions about cluster of om >>>>> >>>>> In cluster mode, how is the redirection of users to the room >>>>> appropriate for the server? >>>>> What are the criteria? >>>>> Are there any configurations to be made at the cluster level to know >>>>> when it should redirect users ? >>>>> We have which advantages with the cluster with 2 or more om ? >>>>> >>>>> thanks in advance. >>>>> >>>>> Kind regards, >>>>> Jeffrey >>>>> >>>>> Le jeu. 2 sept. 2021 à 06:29, Aom Jeff Root >>>>> a écrit : >>>>> >>>>>> In the scenario where the second instance is not turned off manually. >>>>>> I.e. they are in a meeting and sud
Re: Cluster OpenMeetings For Single Access
Hello Mr. Sebastian, I have taken note and I have read the previous thread (kurento media/kms,streaming,load balancing). I will set the nginx load balancer to do single access; my servers are not cloud servers. kind regards, Jeffrey Le jeu. 23 sept. 2021 à 08:14, seba.wag...@gmail.com a écrit : > Hi Jeffrey, > > I assume you mean you have two OpenMeetings Tomcat Servers. The way to > make those look like a single URL and load balance it is the same like any > other Java Tomcat Application Server. > > You need a LoadBalancer. For example I previously used AWS/Application > Load Balancer: > > https://docs.aws.amazon.com/elasticloadbalancing/latest/application/introduction.html > > Or you can build your own custom one using NGINX (although the Open Source > NGINX doesn't do dynamic registering of nodes but requires a restart when > config changes) > > If you refer to clustering and load balancing Kurento/KMS for the video > streaming part of OpenMeetings please have a read of this message/reply > previously summarising some of the discussion: > https://markmail.org/message/w55hh7ri2tmtlnvt > > Thanks > Sebastian > > Sebastian Wagner > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server Hosting for HTML5 > Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> > > > On Thu, 23 Sept 2021 at 18:15, Aom Jeff Root > wrote: > >> Ok, thank you. >> >> Le mer. 22 sept. 2021 à 22:13, Ali Alhaidary >> a écrit : >> >>> Hi Jeffrey, >>> >>> Unfortunately, I am not the expert in that, however, I have CCed the >>> user group where you can find help. >>> >>> Ali >>> >>> On 9/22/21 8:26 PM, Aom Jeff Root wrote: >>> > Hi Mr Ali, I work on clustering openmeetings with two nodes and I want >>> > to make single access to the group server. But I don't know how to; >>> > Can I have help from you please ? Since I asked, I don't have a >>> > response yet. >>> > >>> > >>> > Kind regards, >>> > Jeffrey. >>> >>
Re: Cluster OpenMeetings For Single Access
Ok, thank you. Le mer. 22 sept. 2021 à 22:13, Ali Alhaidary a écrit : > Hi Jeffrey, > > Unfortunately, I am not the expert in that, however, I have CCed the > user group where you can find help. > > Ali > > On 9/22/21 8:26 PM, Aom Jeff Root wrote: > > Hi Mr Ali, I work on clustering openmeetings with two nodes and I want > > to make single access to the group server. But I don't know how to; > > Can I have help from you please ? Since I asked, I don't have a > > response yet. > > > > > > Kind regards, > > Jeffrey. >
Re: OpenMeetings in clusterings mode
Hi Mr Maxim > *I hope my description makes sense :)* > > Of course after several tests performed and conclusion, I had the same result. Thanks Mr Sebatian. > *Il y a eu une autre discussion récente (plus technique) sur les > différents modes/questions de regroupement sur cette liste de diffusion qui > pourrait valoir la peine d'être lue :* > *https://markmail.org/message/w55hh7ri2tmtlnvt* > <https://markmail.org/message/w55hh7ri2tmtlnvt> > > *Surtout aussi autour de l'aspect des tests de performance et de la mesure > des limites de capacité. Ainsi que comment optimiser l'utilisation du > matériel/réseau lorsque la demande augmente.* > with the cluster mode, each node has an url/ip. Can we configure hazelcast.xml or elsewhere something (unique url) users will access and they will not know if they are redirected or not. Like when one node is down, they will continue work but on nodes available (up) ? To make availability service. Kind regards, Jeffrey. Le mer. 8 sept. 2021 à 21:57, seba.wag...@gmail.com a écrit : > There was another recent (more technical) discussion about different > clustering modes/questions on this mailing list that might be worth reading: > https://markmail.org/message/w55hh7ri2tmtlnvt > > Especially also around the performance testing aspect > and measuring capacity limits. As well as how to optimise the > hardware/network usage when demand scales up. > > Thanks > Sebastian > > Sebastian Wagner > Director Arrakeen Solutions, OM-Hosting.com > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > https://om-hosting.com - Cloud & Server Hosting for HTML5 > Video-Conferencing OpenMeetings > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> > > > On Thu, 9 Sept 2021 at 03:27, Maxim Solodovnik > wrote: > >> The current balancer is hardcoded and have no options for tuning (maybe >> yet, ideas are welcome) >> >> The clustering is room-based >> So if you have 2 nodes >> >> First user accessing the roomA will use node1, >> all other users entering roomA will be redirected to node1 >> >> If userB will enter roomB he/she will be redirected to node2 >> As well as all other users entering roomB >> >> if userC will enter roomC - the clustering logic will check >> 1) if free nodes exists >> 2) IF NOT: roomA and roomB capacity will be checked >> Node with smaller total capacity will be used >> >> i.e. if roomA is personal room for max. 15 users and roomB is public room >> with max. 150 users >> roomC will be opened at node1 >> >> I hope my description makes sense :) >> >> On Fri, 3 Sept 2021 at 09:46, Aom Jeff Root >> wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> I have some questions about cluster of om >>> >>> In cluster mode, how is the redirection of users to the room appropriate >>> for the server? >>> What are the criteria? >>> Are there any configurations to be made at the cluster level to know >>> when it should redirect users ? >>> We have which advantages with the cluster with 2 or more om ? >>> >>> thanks in advance. >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> Jeffrey >>> >>> Le jeu. 2 sept. 2021 à 06:29, Aom Jeff Root a >>> écrit : >>> >>>> In the scenario where the second instance is not turned off manually. >>>> I.e. they are in a meeting and suddenly he had a crash users connected to >>>> this instance will not have access to the application (i.e. the server will >>>> be offline) >>>> >>>> Le jeu. 2 sept. 2021 à 03:17, Maxim Solodovnik >>>> a écrit : >>>> >>>>> Hello Jeffrey, >>>>> >>>>> since taking cluster node offline is manual process I would expect it >>>>> will happen while there will be no load >>>>> I can imagine no mechanism to more users to other node >>>>> >>>>> might require some "Cluster admin" or something like this >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, 2 Sept 2021 at 01:07, Aom Jeff Root >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi dear all, >>>>>> Need help - clarifications on setting up cluster - OM >>>>>> >>>>>> When two OM instances are in cluster mode, is it normal that if one >>>>>> is turned off, the meeting (access) is no longer available for the users >>>>>> connected to this instance? >>>>>> Isn't there a way to switch them automatically to the instance that >>>>>> is active? >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> Jeffrey >>>>>> >>>>>> Le mar. 31 août 2021 à 06:12, Aom Jeff Root >>>>>> a écrit : >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi dear all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When two OM instances are in cluster mode, is it normal that if one >>>>>>> is turned off, the meeting (access) is no longer available for the users >>>>>>> connected to this instance? >>>>>>> Isn't there a way to switch them to the instance that is >>>>>>> automatically active? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>> Jeffrey >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Maxim >>>>> >>>> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Maxim >> >
Re: [DISCUSSION] Calendar look'n'feel
I personally find the ui of the old version much better than the new one Le ven. 3 sept. 2021 à 02:08, Maxim Solodovnik a écrit : > Hello All, > > recently we updated the version of bootstrap > As a result Calendar looks a bit differently > Can you check 2 versions: > > NEW https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/#user/calendar > OLD https://om.alteametasoft.com/openmeetings/#user/calendar > > And tell me which one would you prefer? :) > > > -- > Best regards, > Maxim >
Re: OpenMeetings in clusterings mode
Hello, I have some questions about cluster of om In cluster mode, how is the redirection of users to the room appropriate for the server? What are the criteria? Are there any configurations to be made at the cluster level to know when it should redirect users ? We have which advantages with the cluster with 2 or more om ? thanks in advance. Kind regards, Jeffrey Le jeu. 2 sept. 2021 à 06:29, Aom Jeff Root a écrit : > In the scenario where the second instance is not turned off manually. I.e. > they are in a meeting and suddenly he had a crash users connected to this > instance will not have access to the application (i.e. the server will be > offline) > > Le jeu. 2 sept. 2021 à 03:17, Maxim Solodovnik a > écrit : > >> Hello Jeffrey, >> >> since taking cluster node offline is manual process I would expect it >> will happen while there will be no load >> I can imagine no mechanism to more users to other node >> >> might require some "Cluster admin" or something like this >> >> On Thu, 2 Sept 2021 at 01:07, Aom Jeff Root >> wrote: >> >>> Hi dear all, >>> Need help - clarifications on setting up cluster - OM >>> >>> When two OM instances are in cluster mode, is it normal that if one is >>> turned off, the meeting (access) is no longer available for the users >>> connected to this instance? >>> Isn't there a way to switch them automatically to the instance that is >>> active? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Jeffrey >>> >>> Le mar. 31 août 2021 à 06:12, Aom Jeff Root a >>> écrit : >>> >>>> Hi dear all, >>>> >>>> When two OM instances are in cluster mode, is it normal that if one is >>>> turned off, the meeting (access) is no longer available for the users >>>> connected to this instance? >>>> Isn't there a way to switch them to the instance that is automatically >>>> active? >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Jeffrey >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Maxim >> >
Re: OpenMeetings in clusterings mode
In the scenario where the second instance is not turned off manually. I.e. they are in a meeting and suddenly he had a crash users connected to this instance will not have access to the application (i.e. the server will be offline) Le jeu. 2 sept. 2021 à 03:17, Maxim Solodovnik a écrit : > Hello Jeffrey, > > since taking cluster node offline is manual process I would expect it will > happen while there will be no load > I can imagine no mechanism to more users to other node > > might require some "Cluster admin" or something like this > > On Thu, 2 Sept 2021 at 01:07, Aom Jeff Root > wrote: > >> Hi dear all, >> Need help - clarifications on setting up cluster - OM >> >> When two OM instances are in cluster mode, is it normal that if one is >> turned off, the meeting (access) is no longer available for the users >> connected to this instance? >> Isn't there a way to switch them automatically to the instance that is >> active? >> >> Best regards, >> Jeffrey >> >> Le mar. 31 août 2021 à 06:12, Aom Jeff Root a >> écrit : >> >>> Hi dear all, >>> >>> When two OM instances are in cluster mode, is it normal that if one is >>> turned off, the meeting (access) is no longer available for the users >>> connected to this instance? >>> Isn't there a way to switch them to the instance that is automatically >>> active? >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Jeffrey >>> >> > > -- > Best regards, > Maxim >
Re: OpenMeetings in clusterings mode
Hi dear all, Need help - clarifications on setting up cluster - OM When two OM instances are in cluster mode, is it normal that if one is turned off, the meeting (access) is no longer available for the users connected to this instance? Isn't there a way to switch them automatically to the instance that is active? Best regards, Jeffrey Le mar. 31 août 2021 à 06:12, Aom Jeff Root a écrit : > Hi dear all, > > When two OM instances are in cluster mode, is it normal that if one is > turned off, the meeting (access) is no longer available for the users > connected to this instance? > Isn't there a way to switch them to the instance that is automatically > active? > > Best regards, > Jeffrey >
OpenMeetings in clusterings mode
Hi dear all, When two OM instances are in cluster mode, is it normal that if one is turned off, the meeting (access) is no longer available for the users connected to this instance? Isn't there a way to switch them to the instance that is automatically active? Best regards, Jeffrey
Re: Generate invitation link : Guest users to join room meeting
Hi Mr. Maxim, Ahh! So perfect !Thanks :) Best regards, Jeffrey. <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Garanti sans virus. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#m_-818879195483636201_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> Le ven. 13 août 2021 à 02:19, Maxim Solodovnik a écrit : > Hello Jeffrey, > > you can invite any person to OM room > just enter their email address > (a bit tricky part: when the email is entered you should "choose" it in > drop down) > > no need to create user etc :) > > On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 at 19:30, Aom Jeff Root > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Since i reinstall OM 6.1.0 to make test and explore it, i truly seeking >> to generate invitation link to guest (external user without credentials) to >> join a room meeting. >> >> To do it, it simple : create new account on the server, this account wil >> be the management account ; cause being logged in with the administrator >> account, you couldn't do it, but with this management account you have >> created, it's easy. And so, can moderate the room and the guests that go >> with it. >> >> Maybe most people have already realized this, but for starters, this is a >> great help. >> >> Best regards, >> Jeffrey, sys/admin om starter. >> > > > -- > Best regards, > Maxim > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Garanti sans virus. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
Generate invitation link : Guest users to join room meeting
Hi all, Since i reinstall OM 6.1.0 to make test and explore it, i truly seeking to generate invitation link to guest (external user without credentials) to join a room meeting. To do it, it simple : create new account on the server, this account wil be the management account ; cause being logged in with the administrator account, you couldn't do it, but with this management account you have created, it's easy. And so, can moderate the room and the guests that go with it. Maybe most people have already realized this, but for starters, this is a great help. Best regards, Jeffrey, sys/admin om starter.
Re: Kms media server
Okay, right. Thanks. Jeffrey Best regards. Le mar. 10 août 2021 à 14:56, Maxim Solodovnik a écrit : > I'm afraid you need clustered KMS for this :( > > @Sebastian has commercial version: > https://openmeetings.apache.org/commercial-support.html#cloud-based-hosting-for-openmeetings > You might need to contact him :) > > On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 at 00:49, Jeffry Johnson > wrote: > >> RHEL CentOS 7. I'm the end we will support upwards of half a million >> users or more with clustering in 5 different regions. >> >> On Mon, Jul 26, 2021, 14:27 Sangeeta Verma >> wrote: >> >>> Lot of installations may be on same servers...but I would'nt say >>> typicak. In order for OM o perform well you need to see few things: >>> 1 How many users >>> 2. What is your memory size and server speed >>> 3. Is this just the OM server? >>> 4. What OS >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, July 26, 2021, 12:31:33 PM PDT, Jeffry Johnson < >>> jeffry.s.john...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Is it typical to have the media server installed on the same server as >>> the open meetings application? >>> >> > > -- > Best regards, > Maxim >
Re: Upgrade Apache OpenMeetings to the latest version
ansform(TransformerImpl.java:367) at org.apache.openmeetings.cli.ConnectionPropertiesPatcher.patch(ConnectionPropertiesPatcher.java:112) at org.apache.openmeetings.cli.ConnectionPropertiesPatcher.patch(ConnectionPropertiesPatcher.java:121) at org.apache.openmeetings.cli.Admin.processInstall(Admin.java:324) at org.apache.openmeetings.cli.Admin.process(Admin.java:259) at org.apache.openmeetings.cli.Admin.main(Admin.java:563)* ** Jeffrey, the openmeetings starter ;) student in computer science Sys/Admin Thank you in advance, Mr Maxim. Best regards. Le mar. 10 août 2021 à 09:38, Maxim Solodovnik a écrit : > In such case please provide > > 1 result of telten command > Full stack trace with the error :) > > from mobile (sorry for typos ;) > > > On Tue, Aug 10, 2021, 16:18 Aom Jeff Root wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Of course, MySQL listens on port 3306. >> >> Best regards. >> >
Upgrade Apache OpenMeetings to the latest version
Hello, Of course, MySQL listens on port 3306. Best regards.
