RE: Struts training...

2008-01-10 Thread Al Sutton
As an aside, if anyone is looking for training I'd advise them to post the
name of any trainers on this list. 

If  the trainer is not not subscribed to this list you're probably dealing
with someone who is either working off written material (which you could
probably get yourself for cheaper), or hasn't had the exposure to the
community needed to get a rounded picture of how to best use struts.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted
Husted
Sent: 09 January 2008 21:46
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Subject: Re: Struts training...

ATM, I don't think there are any public Struts 2 training courses being
offered anywhere. (Except maybe India!)

I believe Ian is researching venues for public courses, so if anyone is
interested in a public course, ping Ian with your locale.

A few of us do offer private on-site trainings. I believe Ian will travel,
and Dave mentioned he's available in the NYC area. I also offer private
training through www.StrutsMentor.com.

HTH, Ted.

On Jan 9, 2008 3:50 PM, Jack Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks Ted.  Do you know of any training in Toronto? Date: Tue, 8 Jan 
 2008 20:54:42 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
 user@struts.apache.org Subject: Re: Struts training...  As Dave 
 says, if you're trying to get hired, or trying to hire people, then 
 Struts 1 is the still the safe choice. More job postings mention 
 Struts (as in Struts 1) than all other Java web frameworks combined 
 (including JSF).  But, if you're asking which framework will make it 
 easier to create elegant, enterprise-ready applications, with less 
 work and fewer headaches, then Struts 2 is the better choice.  HTH, 
 Ted http://www.StrutsMentor.com/   On Jan 8, 2008 7:14 PM, Dave 
 Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  --- Jack Haynes 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I'm new to struts. I have very 
 limited knowledge of both struts 1 and 2.   I would like to learn 
 one of them in detail. Which is most common? Which   would be most 
 beneficial to have?   Not sure how to answer that.   *I* 
 wouldn't learn S1 now, but there are still a lot more S1 jobs than S2 
  jobs. S2 is a lot nicer to develop with, S1 has many more deployed 
 apps.   It just depends on your goals and interests, I think.  
  d.
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Re: Struts training...

2008-01-10 Thread Ted Husted
On Jan 9, 2008 5:42 PM, Jack Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey Ted,

 Thanks.  What do you charge for training through your site?

All the details are on the Struts Mentor site, and the materials are
hosted at www.StrutsUniversity.org.

HTH, Ted
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Re: Struts training...

2008-01-09 Thread Dave Newton
I provide on-site training in NYC; feel free to contact me off-list.

Dave

--- Antoine Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone know of struts training in New York city?
 
 On Jan 8, 2008 8:47 PM, Jack Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Thanks for the feedback Dave.
 
  Jack Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 16:14:43 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Struts training... To: user@struts.apache.org  --- Jack
  Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I'm new to struts. I have very
  limited knowledge of both struts 1 and 2.   I would like to learn one
 of
  them in detail. Which is most common? Which  would be most beneficial
 to
  have?  Not sure how to answer that.  *I* wouldn't learn S1 now, but
  there are still a lot more S1 jobs than S2 jobs. S2 is a lot nicer to
  develop with, S1 has many more deployed apps.  It just depends on your
  goals and interests, I think.  d. 
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RE: Struts training...

2008-01-09 Thread Deepak Kumar
HI,

We are providing Struts training all over India. Please check
http://www.roseindia.net/ittraining/Struts2Training.shtml

Thanks


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From: Dave Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Struts training...


I provide on-site training in NYC; feel free to contact me off-list.

Dave

--- Antoine Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone know of struts training in New York city?

 On Jan 8, 2008 8:47 PM, Jack Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  Thanks for the feedback Dave.
 
  Jack Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 16:14:43 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Struts training... To: user@struts.apache.org  --- Jack
  Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I'm new to struts. I have very
  limited knowledge of both struts 1 and 2.   I would like to learn one
 of
  them in detail. Which is most common? Which  would be most beneficial
 to
  have?  Not sure how to answer that.  *I* wouldn't learn S1 now, but
  there are still a lot more S1 jobs than S2 jobs. S2 is a lot nicer to
  develop with, S1 has many more deployed apps.  It just depends on your
  goals and interests, I think.  d. 
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RE: Struts training...

2008-01-09 Thread Dave Newton
--- Deepak Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We are providing Struts training all over India.

That's quite dissimilar to NYC.

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RE: Struts training...

2008-01-09 Thread Al Sutton
Please READ the original emails before spamming the list with adverts!!!

Your training in india is as relevant as a chocolate kettle to the
thread

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From: Deepak Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 09 January 2008 12:58
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: Struts training...

HI,

We are providing Struts training all over India. Please check
http://www.roseindia.net/ittraining/Struts2Training.shtml

Thanks


-Original Message-
From: Dave Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 6:09 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: Struts training...


I provide on-site training in NYC; feel free to contact me off-list.

Dave

--- Antoine Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone know of struts training in New York city?

 On Jan 8, 2008 8:47 PM, Jack Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  Thanks for the feedback Dave.
 
  Jack Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 16:14:43 -0800 From: 
  Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: Struts training... To: user@struts.apache.org  --- 
  Jack Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I'm new to struts. I 
  have very limited knowledge of both struts 1 and 2.   I would like 
  to learn one
 of
  them in detail. Which is most common? Which  would be most 
  beneficial
 to
  have?  Not sure how to answer that.  *I* wouldn't learn S1 now, 
  but there are still a lot more S1 jobs than S2 jobs. S2 is a lot 
  nicer to develop with, S1 has many more deployed apps.  It just 
  depends on your goals and interests, I think.  d. 
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RE: Struts training...

2008-01-09 Thread Jack Haynes

Thanks Ted.  Do you know of any training in Toronto? Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 
20:54:42 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: user@struts.apache.org Subject: 
Re: Struts training...  As Dave says, if you're trying to get hired, or 
trying to hire people, then Struts 1 is the still the safe choice. More job 
postings mention Struts (as in Struts 1) than all other Java web frameworks 
combined (including JSF).  But, if you're asking which framework will make 
it easier to create elegant, enterprise-ready applications, with less work and 
fewer headaches, then Struts 2 is the better choice.  HTH, Ted 
http://www.StrutsMentor.com/   On Jan 8, 2008 7:14 PM, Dave Newton [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] wrote:  --- Jack Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I'm new 
to struts. I have very limited knowledge of both struts 1 and 2.   I would 
like to learn one of them in detail. Which is most common? Which   would be 
most beneficial to have?   Not sure how to answer that.   *I* wouldn't 
learn S1 now, but there are still a lot more S1 jobs than S2  jobs. S2 is a 
lot nicer to develop with, S1 has many more deployed apps.   It just 
depends on your goals and interests, I think.   d.
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Re: Struts training...

2008-01-09 Thread Ted Husted
ATM, I don't think there are any public Struts 2 training courses
being offered anywhere. (Except maybe India!)

I believe Ian is researching venues for public courses, so if anyone
is interested in a public course, ping Ian with your locale.

A few of us do offer private on-site trainings. I believe Ian will
travel, and Dave mentioned he's available in the NYC area. I also
offer private training through www.StrutsMentor.com.

HTH, Ted.

On Jan 9, 2008 3:50 PM, Jack Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks Ted.  Do you know of any training in Toronto? Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 
 20:54:42 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: user@struts.apache.org Subject: 
 Re: Struts training...  As Dave says, if you're trying to get hired, or 
 trying to hire people, then Struts 1 is the still the safe choice. More job 
 postings mention Struts (as in Struts 1) than all other Java web frameworks 
 combined (including JSF).  But, if you're asking which framework will make 
 it easier to create elegant, enterprise-ready applications, with less work 
 and fewer headaches, then Struts 2 is the better choice.  HTH, Ted 
 http://www.StrutsMentor.com/   On Jan 8, 2008 7:14 PM, Dave Newton 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  --- Jack Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   
 I'm new to struts. I have very limited knowledge of both struts 1 and 2.   
 I would like to learn one of them in detail. Which is most common? Which   
 would be most beneficial to have?   Not sure how to answer that.   
 *I* wouldn't learn S1 now, but there are still a lot more S1 jobs than S2  
 jobs. S2 is a lot nicer to develop with, S1 has many more deployed apps.  
  It just depends on your goals and interests, I think.   d.
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RE: Struts training...

2008-01-09 Thread Jack Haynes

Hey Ted,
 
Thanks.  What do you charge for training through your site?
 
Regards,
Jack Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 16:46:08 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
user@struts.apache.org Subject: Re: Struts training...  ATM, I don't think 
there are any public Struts 2 training courses being offered anywhere. (Except 
maybe India!)  I believe Ian is researching venues for public courses, so if 
anyone is interested in a public course, ping Ian with your locale.  A few 
of us do offer private on-site trainings. I believe Ian will travel, and Dave 
mentioned he's available in the NYC area. I also offer private training 
through www.StrutsMentor.com.  HTH, Ted.  On Jan 9, 2008 3:50 PM, Jack 
Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Thanks Ted. Do you know of any training 
in Toronto? Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 20:54:42 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
user@struts.apache.org Subject: Re: Struts training...  As Dave says, if 
you're trying to get hired, or trying to hire people, then Struts 1 is the 
still the safe choice. More job postings mention Struts (as in Struts 1) than 
all other Java web frameworks combined (including JSF).  But, if you're 
asking which framework will make it easier to create elegant, enterprise-ready 
applications, with less work and fewer headaches, then Struts 2 is the better 
choice.  HTH, Ted http://www.StrutsMentor.com/   On Jan 8, 2008 7:14 
PM, Dave Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  --- Jack Haynes [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] wrote:   I'm new to struts. I have very limited knowledge of 
both struts 1 and 2.   I would like to learn one of them in detail. Which is 
most common? Which   would be most beneficial to have?   Not sure how to 
answer that.   *I* wouldn't learn S1 now, but there are still a lot more S1 
jobs than S2  jobs. S2 is a lot nicer to develop with, S1 has many more 
deployed apps.   It just depends on your goals and interests, I think.  
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Re: Struts training...

2008-01-08 Thread Martin Gainty
pretty sure sun microsystems offers training in santa clara..is that too far
away?
http://developers.sun.com/events/techdays/self_paced_labs.jsp

anyone else?
M-
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 Can some suggest a good training class for Struts around the Bay Area -
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Re: Struts training...

2008-01-08 Thread Ian Roughley
I'm looking into providing some public training, at the moment I'm 
scouting out cities and locations that can accommodate training.  Of 
course, if its private training, then that's easy!


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Martin Gainty wrote:

pretty sure sun microsystems offers training in santa clara..is that too far
away?
http://developers.sun.com/events/techdays/self_paced_labs.jsp

anyone else?
M-
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Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 9:18 PM
Subject: Struts training...


  

Can some suggest a good training class for Struts around the Bay Area -


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RE: Struts training...

2008-01-08 Thread Jack Haynes

Hi All,
 
I'm new to struts.  I have very limited knowledge of both struts 1 and 2.  I 
would like to learn one of them in detail.  Which is most common?  Which would 
be most beneficial to have?
 
Jack Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 18:18:39 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
user@struts.apache.org Subject: Struts training...  Can some suggest a good 
training class for Struts around the Bay Area - CA? Thanks! -Narayan
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RE: Struts training...

2008-01-08 Thread Dave Newton
--- Jack Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm new to struts.  I have very limited knowledge of both struts 1 and 2. 
 I would like to learn one of them in detail.  Which is most common?  Which
 would be most beneficial to have?

Not sure how to answer that.

*I* wouldn't learn S1 now, but there are still a lot more S1 jobs than S2
jobs. S2 is a lot nicer to develop with, S1 has many more deployed apps.

It just depends on your goals and interests, I think.

d.

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RE: Struts training...

2008-01-08 Thread Jack Haynes

Thanks for the feedback Dave.
 
Jack Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 16:14:43 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 
RE: Struts training... To: user@struts.apache.org  --- Jack Haynes [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] wrote:  I'm new to struts. I have very limited knowledge of both 
struts 1 and 2.   I would like to learn one of them in detail. Which is most 
common? Which  would be most beneficial to have?  Not sure how to answer 
that.  *I* wouldn't learn S1 now, but there are still a lot more S1 jobs than 
S2 jobs. S2 is a lot nicer to develop with, S1 has many more deployed apps.  
It just depends on your goals and interests, I think.  d.  
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Re: Struts training...

2008-01-08 Thread Ted Husted
As Dave says, if you're trying to get hired, or trying to hire people,
then Struts 1 is the still the safe choice. More job postings mention
Struts (as in Struts 1) than all other Java web frameworks combined
(including JSF).

But, if you're asking which framework will make it easier to create
elegant, enterprise-ready applications, with less work and fewer
headaches, then Struts 2 is the better choice.

HTH, Ted
http://www.StrutsMentor.com/


On Jan 8, 2008 7:14 PM, Dave Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- Jack Haynes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm new to struts.  I have very limited knowledge of both struts 1 and 2.
  I would like to learn one of them in detail.  Which is most common?  Which
  would be most beneficial to have?

 Not sure how to answer that.

 *I* wouldn't learn S1 now, but there are still a lot more S1 jobs than S2
 jobs. S2 is a lot nicer to develop with, S1 has many more deployed apps.

 It just depends on your goals and interests, I think.

 d.


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Re: Struts training...

2008-01-07 Thread stanlick
Struts 1.x or Struts 2?  I might be able to help you out.

On Jan 7, 2008 8:18 PM, Narayan Mandaleeka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can some suggest a good training class for Struts around the Bay Area -
 CA?
 Thanks!
 -Narayan




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RE: Struts training...

2008-01-07 Thread Jack Haynes

Which is more in demand?  Struts 1 or 2?
 
Thanks,
Jack Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 20:21:23 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
user@struts.apache.org Subject: Re: Struts training...  Struts 1.x or Struts 
2? I might be able to help you out.  On Jan 7, 2008 8:18 PM, Narayan 
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Re: Struts training

2004-11-30 Thread Vic
I teach it for $ on client site and you can google for 12 more places. 
Email offline if you need more.
.V

 Hi,
 Could somebody recommend a good, advanced Struts
 classroom training course in the US,that covers
topics
 like Tiles/JSTL, JSF et al?

 Thanks,
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Re: Struts training

2004-11-30 Thread M. Bitner
DevelopMentor offers a Struts class:

http://www.develop.com/us/training/course.aspx?id=202

I haven't taken this particular class but I've gone to two of their
other classes and was really impressed with them.

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Re: Struts training

2004-11-30 Thread Eddie Bush
quote
You will be introduced to Struts, the primary MVC framework for building 
Java Web Applications.
/quot

Doesn't sound like they go into it very deeply.  It may be a very good class 
for a person that hasn't done any web development using Java technologies 
though.

quot
You should have approximately three months Java experience. No web 
development or XML experience is necessary, but would be useful. snip /
/quot

A person really needs to know web development fairly decently before they 
can be introduced to, and expected to understand, Struts.  That's a lot to 
fit into five days, especially considering they expect to start the course 
with people being relatively ignorant of the things they're teaching.

I'm not knocking them :-)  Just saying that it sounds as though that 
particular course is aimed more at POSAs (Plain Ol'e Servlet Applications) 
with a sprinkling of Struts.

Eddie
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DevelopMentor offers a Struts class:
http://www.develop.com/us/training/course.aspx?id=202
I haven't taken this particular class but I've gone to two of their
other classes and was really impressed with them.
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Re: Struts training

2004-11-30 Thread M. Bitner
You're right - I should have looked more closely. Sorry about that.


On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 19:38:15 -0600, Eddie Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 quote
 You will be introduced to Struts, the primary MVC framework for building
 Java Web Applications.
 /quot
 
 Doesn't sound like they go into it very deeply.  It may be a very good class
 for a person that hasn't done any web development using Java technologies
 though.
 
 quot
 You should have approximately three months Java experience. No web
 development or XML experience is necessary, but would be useful. snip /
 /quot
 
 A person really needs to know web development fairly decently before they
 can be introduced to, and expected to understand, Struts.  That's a lot to
 fit into five days, especially considering they expect to start the course
 with people being relatively ignorant of the things they're teaching.
 
 I'm not knocking them :-)  Just saying that it sounds as though that
 particular course is aimed more at POSAs (Plain Ol'e Servlet Applications)
 with a sprinkling of Struts.
 
 Eddie
 
 
 
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  DevelopMentor offers a Struts class:
 
  http://www.develop.com/us/training/course.aspx?id=202
 
  I haven't taken this particular class but I've gone to two of their
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Re: Struts training

2004-11-28 Thread Shyam Anand
James,

Thanks for the info...Look forward to your training
course.

Shyam

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 If there is enough real interest in this, I will
 bump it up on my priority 
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  Hi,
  Could somebody recommend a good, advanced Struts
  classroom training course in the US,that covers
 topics
  like Tiles/JSTL, JSF et al?
 
  Thanks,
  Shyam
 
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Re: Struts training

2004-11-28 Thread Erik Weber
I'm in Atlanta (but not a member of any user groups) and would be 
interested in helping out or possibly taking a course.

Erik
James Mitchell wrote:
Was your question ever answered?
There was talk about this among the Struts-Atlanta (Struts users 
group) members and I have considered putting something like this 
together, but like everything else, it has taken a back seat to other 
plans.

If there is enough real interest in this, I will bump it up on my 
priority list.

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Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist
EdgeTech, Inc.
678.910.8017
AIM: jmitchtx
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Hi,
Could somebody recommend a good, advanced Struts
classroom training course in the US,that covers topics
like Tiles/JSTL, JSF et al?
Thanks,
Shyam
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Re: Struts training

2004-11-27 Thread James Mitchell
Was your question ever answered?
There was talk about this among the Struts-Atlanta (Struts users group) 
members and I have considered putting something like this together, but like 
everything else, it has taken a back seat to other plans.

If there is enough real interest in this, I will bump it up on my priority 
list.

--
James Mitchell
Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist
EdgeTech, Inc.
678.910.8017
AIM: jmitchtx
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Hi,
Could somebody recommend a good, advanced Struts
classroom training course in the US,that covers topics
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Shyam
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