Re: Logo Proposal
Hi, I tried logo option #4 on the website. Screenshot located at: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTZ0FFM2I0WnpwWlE As you can see, the dragon itself works well due to the fact that the bulk of the body is of a darker blue. Alas, the font family doesn't work well with Telex ( https://www.google.com/fonts/specimen/Telex), which is what the web site uses via the bootswatch theme. Overall, the font in the logo would be too hard to read if applied to the overall website. The light-blue color on the word "Apache" doesn't work either; it's better to use the dark color from the dragon's body. The "Transactional-SQL-on-Hadoop" slogan is lost due to the black font color of "Trafodion", which is why I suggest a singular color for all of "Apache Trafodion" — it's easy to add slogans underneath the logo with text that way. To me, this experiment validates that the logo itself is fine but there's a little more work on the text associated with the logo to finish the job. I am not suggesting to use the font in my earlier mockup but would like to try Telex together with the darker text to see how that fits. It's too late for me to try that experiment at this time so maybe tomorrow. My two cents, Gunnar On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:50 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I suggest that we limit the number of colors used. > > A simple change: > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTT3NNMTZ0dmhqQm8 > > Thanks, > > Gunnar > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Trina Krug <trina.k...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Option 4!! >> >> Trina >> >> On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well. Though I would >> prefer a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out >> and I'm not fond of it overall... >> >> But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at >> all >> >> Thanks Ken! >> >> -Carol P. >> >> --- >> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com >> Twitter: @CarolP222 >> --- >> >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both. >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < >>> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look. >>>> The dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com] >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM >>>> >>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion. Like the dragon to sit on the >>>> right, not on top of Trafodion. But the font in #4 looks more professional >>>> (perhaps also in lower case). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Weishiun >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM >>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), >>>> but with the placement of option 6. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> That said, either one is fine. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com] >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM >>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> +1 option 4 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM >>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>&
Re: Logo Proposal
-1 Check out the other logos I sent to the internal dlist. Rohit Original message From: Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> Date: 02/12/2016 12:50 AM (GMT-06:00) To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Logo Proposal Hi, I suggest that we limit the number of colors used. A simple change: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTT3NNMTZ0dmhqQm8 Thanks, Gunnar On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Trina Krug <trina.k...@gmail.com> wrote: Option 4!! Trina On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote: Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well. Though I would prefer a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out and I'm not fond of it overall... But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at all Thanks Ken! -Carol P. ---Email: carol.pearson...@gmail.com Twitter: @CarolP222--- On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> wrote: Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both. On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look. The dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J From: Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com] Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Logo Proposal +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion. Like the dragon to sit on the right, not on top of Trafodion. But the font in #4 looks more professional (perhaps also in lower case). Weishiun From: Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Logo Proposal Hi, I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), but with the placement of option 6. That said, either one is fine. Dave From: Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com] Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Logo Proposal +1 option 4 From: Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Logo Proposal +1 option 4 From: Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Logo Proposal Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that.But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. Option 4https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing Option 6https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited field testing!Comments on 4 & 6? Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well. From: Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Logo Proposal +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my favorite). Hans On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com> wrote:By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and post another version of that. Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense.Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:+1 on dragon. On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote:+1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon carries. St.Ack -Carol P. -
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I wonder if we could also consider a mod to option 4 where only the dragon and the word trafodion are present. See the two images attached. I sampled a couple apache project logs and found they do not have the word APACHE in their logos (e.g., HIVE, MONGODB, AVRO, SPARK). With this approach, it is possible to put the Trafodion logo into the "power by Apache" logo, see URL here <http://www.apache.org/foundation/press/kit/>, without the duplication of "Apache". It also simplifies the design and allows a good focus. Thanks --Qifan On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:19 AM, Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com> wrote: > -1 > > Check out the other logos I sent to the internal dlist. > > Rohit > > > Original message > From: Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> > Date: 02/12/2016 12:50 AM (GMT-06:00) > To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Logo Proposal > > Hi, > > I suggest that we limit the number of colors used. > > A simple change: > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTT3NNMTZ0dmhqQm8 > > Thanks, > > Gunnar > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Trina Krug <trina.k...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Option 4!! >> >> Trina >> >> On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well. Though I would >> prefer a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out >> and I'm not fond of it overall... >> >> But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at >> all >> >> Thanks Ken! >> >> -Carol P. >> >> --- >> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com >> Twitter: @CarolP222 >> --- >> >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both. >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < >>> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look. >>>> The dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com] >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM >>>> >>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion. Like the dragon to sit on the >>>> right, not on top of Trafodion. But the font in #4 looks more professional >>>> (perhaps also in lower case). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Weishiun >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM >>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), >>>> but with the placement of option 6. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> That said, either one is fine. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com] >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM >>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> +1 option 4 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM >>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> +1 option 4 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM >>>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>>> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal >>>> >>>
Re: Logo Proposal
It depends on how much value you think Apache adds to Trafodion, as compared to those other logos that perhaps already have some cachet. I feel that it adds quite a bit of value to Trafodion. Rohit Original message From: Qifan Chen <qifan.c...@esgyn.com> Date: 02/12/2016 8:34 AM (GMT-06:00) To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org Cc: Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Logo Proposal I wonder if we could also consider a mod to option 4 where only the dragon and the word trafodion are present. See the two images attached. I sampled a couple apache project logs and found they do not have the word APACHE in their logos (e.g., HIVE, MONGODB, AVRO, SPARK). With this approach, it is possible to put the Trafodion logo into the "power by Apache" logo, see URL here, without the duplication of "Apache". It also simplifies the design and allows a good focus. Thanks --Qifan On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:19 AM, Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com> wrote: -1 Check out the other logos I sent to the internal dlist. Rohit Original message From: Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> Date: 02/12/2016 12:50 AM (GMT-06:00) To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Logo Proposal Hi, I suggest that we limit the number of colors used. A simple change: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTT3NNMTZ0dmhqQm8 Thanks, Gunnar On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Trina Krug <trina.k...@gmail.com> wrote: Option 4!! Trina On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote: Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well. Though I would prefer a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out and I'm not fond of it overall... But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at all Thanks Ken! -Carol P. ---Email: carol.pearson...@gmail.com Twitter: @CarolP222--- On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> wrote: Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both. On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look. The dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J From: Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com] Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Logo Proposal +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion. Like the dragon to sit on the right, not on top of Trafodion. But the font in #4 looks more professional (perhaps also in lower case). Weishiun From: Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Logo Proposal Hi, I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), but with the placement of option 6. That said, either one is fine. Dave From: Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com] Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Logo Proposal +1 option 4 From: Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Logo Proposal +1 option 4 From: Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Logo Proposal Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that.But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. Option 4https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing Option 6https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited field testing!Comments on 4 & 6? Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan <sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote:I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well. From: Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Logo Proposal +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my favorite). Hans On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com> wrote:By the
RE: Logo Proposal
It seems we might need multiple votes: -One color or multiple colors? -Thin font or thick font? -One font or two fonts? -Apache or not… What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? J -clr *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Cc:* Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal -1 all same color. I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting to remove Apache But I still like it the way it is Sent from my iPhone On Feb 12, 2016, at 7:15 AM, Qifan Chen <qifan.c...@esgyn.com> wrote: But is it obvious that Trafodion is an Apache project, if one starts to read about it? On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com> wrote: It depends on how much value you think Apache adds to Trafodion, as compared to those other logos that perhaps already have some cachet. I feel that it adds quite a bit of value to Trafodion. Rohit Original message From: Qifan Chen <qifan.c...@esgyn.com> Date: 02/12/2016 8:34 AM (GMT-06:00) To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org Cc: Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Logo Proposal I wonder if we could also consider a mod to option 4 where only the dragon and the word trafodion are present. See the two images attached. I sampled a couple apache project logs and found they do not have the word APACHE in their logos (e.g., HIVE, MONGODB, AVRO, SPARK). With this approach, it is possible to put the Trafodion logo into the "power by Apache" logo, see URL here <http://www.apache.org/foundation/press/kit/>, without the duplication of "Apache". It also simplifies the design and allows a good focus. Thanks --Qifan On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:19 AM, Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com> wrote: -1 Check out the other logos I sent to the internal dlist. Rohit Original message From: Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> Date: 02/12/2016 12:50 AM (GMT-06:00) To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Logo Proposal Hi, I suggest that we limit the number of colors used. A simple change: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTT3NNMTZ0dmhqQm8 Thanks, Gunnar On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Trina Krug <trina.k...@gmail.com> wrote: Option 4!! Trina On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote: Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well. Though I would prefer a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out and I'm not fond of it overall... But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at all Thanks Ken! -Carol P. --- Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com Twitter: @CarolP222 --- On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> wrote: Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both. On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look. The dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J *From:* Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion. Like the dragon to sit on the right, not on top of Trafodion. But the font in #4 looks more professional (perhaps also in lower case). Weishiun *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal Hi, I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), but with the placement of option 6. That said, either one is fine. Dave *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal +1 option 4 *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal +1 option 4 *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. Option 4 https://drive.google.com
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I know there has been some talk of using lower case in Trafodion, but do we want to extend that to Apache? I’ve done some non-exhaustive searches and can’t find any instance where the leading ‘A’ is not capitalized. I think we should follow that pattern. Regards, Sean *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 12:31 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal Hi, Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to propose the following draft as a candidate: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google Fonts: Telex Regular. As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm sure it'll meet the other criteria, too. Thanks, Gunnar On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote: We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion fits into the puzzle ;-) . I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our traffic comes from. Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday? -Carol P. --- Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com Twitter: @CarolP222 --- On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy < venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote: Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are serious. Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the website, presentation slides and any brochures if you will. Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name. Venkat *From:* Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Cc:* Rohit Jain <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper < tapper.gun...@gmail.com> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal It seems we might need multiple votes: - One color or multiple colors? - Thin font or thick font? - One font or two fonts? - Apache or not… What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? J -clr *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Cc:* Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal -1 all same color. I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting to remove Apache But I still like it the way it is Sent from my iPhone On Feb 12, 2016, at 7:15 AM, Qifan Chen <qifan.c...@esgyn.com> wrote: But is it obvious that Trafodion is an Apache project, if one starts to read about it? On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com> wrote: It depends on how much value you think Apache adds to Trafodion, as compared to those other logos that perhaps already have some cachet. I feel that it adds quite a bit of value to Trafodion. Rohit Original message From: Qifan Chen <qifan.c...@esgyn.com> Date: 02/12/2016 8:34 AM (GMT-06:00) To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org Cc: Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Logo Proposal I wonder if we could also consider a mod to option 4 where only the dragon and the word trafodion are present. See the two images attached. I sampled a couple apache project logs and found they do not have the word APACHE in their logos (e.g., HIVE, MONGODB, AVRO, SPARK). With this approach, it is possible to put the Trafodion logo into the "power by Apache" logo, see URL here <http://www.apache.org/foundation/press/kit/>, without the duplication of "Apache". It also simplifies the design and allows a good focus. Thanks --Qifan On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:19 AM, Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com> wrote: -1 Check out the other logos I sent to the internal dlist. Rohit Original message From: Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> Date: 02/12/2016 12:50 AM (GMT-06:00) To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Logo Proposal Hi, I suggest that we limit the number of colors used. A simple change: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNh
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'A' or 'a' doesn't matter I'd say. St.Ack On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> wrote: > It's better to stand out as long as it doesn't violates some rule... :) > Carol might know the answer to whether lowercase does. > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 1:37 PM, Sean Broeder <sean.broe...@esgyn.com> > wrote: > >> I know there has been some talk of using lower case in Trafodion, but do >> we want to extend that to Apache? I’ve done some non-exhaustive searches >> and can’t find any instance where the leading ‘A’ is not capitalized. I >> think we should follow that pattern. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Sean >> >> >> >> *From:* Gunnar Tapper [mailto:tapper.gun...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 12:31 PM >> >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> Based on the input from several people in this thread, I'd like to >> propose the following draft as a candidate: >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTQV85eDlyc0RxWGc >> >> >> >> I'm hoping that Ken, Sandhya, or someone else can make a real version for >> consideration rather than my PowerPoint hack. It needs a bit of work on the >> gray hue (s;lightly darker IMO), size of dragon, and alignment but that's >> better done in a real designer program. The font was downloaded from Google >> Fonts: Telex Regular. >> >> >> >> As mentioned, the draft fits into the overall website well: >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTczNMLTRjYUVXSkE and I'm >> sure it'll meet the other criteria, too. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Gunnar >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Carol Pearson < >> carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> We also need our logo to look good on our customers' and users' and >> ecosystem denizens' websites so they're eager to show off that Trafodion >> fits into the puzzle ;-) . >> >> >> >> I don't think we're quite converged and ready for a real vote, and to be >> honest, I hate to call for a 3 day vote on this over a long weekend in the >> US and at the end of a holiday week in China since that's where most of our >> traffic comes from. >> >> >> >> Further discussion over the weekend and final vote on Tuesday? >> >> >> >> -Carol P. >> >> >> --- >> >> Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com >> >> Twitter: @CarolP222 >> >> --- >> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Venkat Muthuswamy < >> venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com> wrote: >> >> Having Apache in our logo, brings a lot of credibility and shows we are >> serious. >> >> Let’s also keep in mind that the logo/text should look good on the >> website, presentation slides and any brochures if you will. >> >> Certainly we need multiple colors to bring attention to the product name. >> >> >> >> Venkat >> >> >> >> *From:* Christophe LeRouzo [mailto:c...@esgyn.com] >> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:59 AM >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Cc:* Rohit Jain <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper < >> tapper.gun...@gmail.com> >> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> It seems we might need multiple votes: >> >> - One color or multiple colors? >> >> - Thin font or thick font? >> >> - One font or two fonts? >> >> - Apache or not… >> >> >> >> What was Selva saying about engineers and votes? J >> >> -clr >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] >> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 7:21 AM >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Cc:* Rohit <rohit.j...@esgyn.com>; Gunnar Tapper < >> tapper.gun...@gmail.com> >> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> -1 all same color. >> >> >> >> I still like option 4 the way it was/is but I can understand wanting to >> remove Apache But I still like it the way it is >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >&g
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Hi, I suggest that we limit the number of colors used. A simple change: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxlwNhWxn8iTT3NNMTZ0dmhqQm8 Thanks, Gunnar On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Trina Krug <trina.k...@gmail.com> wrote: > Option 4!! > > Trina > > On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well. Though I would > prefer a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out > and I'm not fond of it overall... > > But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at > all > > Thanks Ken! > > -Carol P. > > --- > Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com > Twitter: @CarolP222 > --- > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both. >> >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < >> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: >> >>> Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look. >>> The dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM >>> >>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion. Like the dragon to sit on the >>> right, not on top of Trafodion. But the font in #4 looks more professional >>> (perhaps also in lower case). >>> >>> >>> >>> Weishiun >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM >>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), >>> but with the placement of option 6. >>> >>> >>> >>> That said, either one is fine. >>> >>> >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM >>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> +1 option 4 >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM >>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> +1 option 4 >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM >>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. >>> >>> But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. >>> >>> >>> >>> Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. >>> >>> >>> >>> Option 4 >>> >>> >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing >>> >>> >>> >>> Option 6 >>> >>> >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing >>> >>> >>> >>> Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited >>> field testing! >>> >>> Comments on 4 & 6? >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers, Ken >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < >>> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: >>> >>> I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we >>> could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different >>> color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as >>> well. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Hans Zelle
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Hi, I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), but with the placement of option 6. That said, either one is fine. Dave *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal +1 option 4 *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal +1 option 4 *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. Option 4 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing Option 6 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited field testing! Comments on 4 & 6? Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well. *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my favorite). Hans On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com> wrote: By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and post another version of that. Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote: +1 on dragon. On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote: +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon carries. St.Ack -Carol P. --- Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com Twitter: @CarolP222 --- On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: +1 for Dragon. The Trafodion cursive writing and color -1. IMHO we need to rework the writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and complicated with the cursive. *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +10 for dragon! Very cute! Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else likes... I give it a +0 On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo <c...@esgyn.com> wrote: Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements really well the yellow elephant! Regards, -clr *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal Hi, I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s too much alike. Would be nice to switch to another font that doesn’t have that issue. Dave *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:48 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Logo Proposal Hi All, Apache Trafodion needs a logo. I believe there was some discussion about a logo for Trafodion quite some time ago, but we never really resolved it. In the very early days of Trafodion, before becoming an Apache project (incubating) I devised a logo that leveraged the Welsh connection of the project name, and that was a simple cute dragon. I now have a much improved version of that original logo and propose that we use this
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I am not able to paste it here and preserve the font. But on the website, http://trafodion.apache.org/, the Trafodion on the top left upper corner in red has a lowercase font with the ‘F’ going down. We could try that to see if it looks better than 4 which is already pretty close/popular. Sandhya *From:* Atanu Mishra [mailto:atanumis...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:06 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal I like Hans' suggestion for lower-case letters for Trafodion. Both options were better than the previous, but not quite there. Getting close. Regards, Atanu Atanu Mishra On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Eric Owhadi <eric.owh...@esgyn.com> wrote: +1 option 4 *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal +1 option 4 *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. Option 4 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing Option 6 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited field testing! Comments on 4 & 6? Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well. *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my favorite). Hans On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com> wrote: By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and post another version of that. Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote: +1 on dragon. On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote: +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon carries. St.Ack -Carol P. --- Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com Twitter: @CarolP222 --- On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: +1 for Dragon. The Trafodion cursive writing and color -1. IMHO we need to rework the writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and complicated with the cursive. *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +10 for dragon! Very cute! Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else likes... I give it a +0 On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo <c...@esgyn.com> wrote: Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements really well the yellow elephant! Regards, -clr *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal Hi, I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s too much alike. Would be nice to switch to another font that doesn’t have that issue. Dave *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:48 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Logo Proposal Hi A
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+1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion. Like the dragon to sit on the right, not on top of Trafodion. But the font in #4 looks more professional (perhaps also in lower case). Weishiun *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal Hi, I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), but with the placement of option 6. That said, either one is fine. Dave *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal +1 option 4 *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal +1 option 4 *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. Option 4 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing Option 6 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited field testing! Comments on 4 & 6? Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well. *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my favorite). Hans On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com> wrote: By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and post another version of that. Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote: +1 on dragon. On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote: +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon carries. St.Ack -Carol P. --- Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com Twitter: @CarolP222 --- On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: +1 for Dragon. The Trafodion cursive writing and color -1. IMHO we need to rework the writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and complicated with the cursive. *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +10 for dragon! Very cute! Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else likes... I give it a +0 On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo <c...@esgyn.com> wrote: Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements really well the yellow elephant! Regards, -clr *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal Hi, I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s too much alike. Would be nice to switch to another font that doesn’t have that issue. Dave *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:48 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Logo Proposal Hi All, Apache Trafodion needs a logo. I believe there was some discussion ab
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I like Hans' suggestion for lower-case letters for Trafodion. Both options were better than the previous, but not quite there. Getting close. Regards, Atanu Atanu Mishra On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 3:02 PM, Eric Owhadi <eric.owh...@esgyn.com> wrote: > +1 option 4 > > > > *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM > > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal > > > > +1 option 4 > > > > *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal > > > > Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. > > But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. > > > > Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. > > > > Option 4 > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing > > > > Option 6 > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing > > > > Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited > field testing! > > Comments on 4 & 6? > > > > Cheers, Ken > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < > sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: > > I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we could > try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different color > like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well. > > > > *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM > > > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal > > > > +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another > somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the > trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my > favorite). > > > Hans > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a > vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, > which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. > > > > I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and > post another version of that. > > > > Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. > > Cheers, Ken > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote: > > +1 on dragon. > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! > > > > On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it > separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? > > > > > > Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is > always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the > cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon > carries. > > > > St.Ack > > > > > > > > -Carol P. > > > --- > > Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com > > Twitter: @CarolP222 > > ----------- > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan < > sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: > > +1 for Dragon. > > The Trafodion cursive writing and color -1. IMHO we need to rework the > writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and > complicated with the cursive. > > > > > > *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal > > > > +10 for dragon! Very cute! > > > > Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else > likes... I give it a +0 > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo <c...@esgyn.com> > wrote: > > Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements really > well the yellow elephant! > > > > Regards, > > -clr > > > > > > *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM > *To:* use
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Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look. The dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J *From:* Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion. Like the dragon to sit on the right, not on top of Trafodion. But the font in #4 looks more professional (perhaps also in lower case). Weishiun *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal Hi, I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), but with the placement of option 6. That said, either one is fine. Dave *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal +1 option 4 *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal +1 option 4 *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. Option 4 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing Option 6 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited field testing! Comments on 4 & 6? Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well. *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my favorite). Hans On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com> wrote: By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and post another version of that. Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. Cheers, Ken On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote: +1 on dragon. On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote: +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon carries. St.Ack -Carol P. --- Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com Twitter: @CarolP222 --- On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: +1 for Dragon. The Trafodion cursive writing and color -1. IMHO we need to rework the writing for sure and try various colors. It’s looking cluttered and complicated with the cursive. *From:* Amanda Moran [mailto:amanda.mo...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:13 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal +10 for dragon! Very cute! Not a huge fan of the cursive writing myself... but if everyone else likes... I give it a +0 On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Christophe LeRouzo <c...@esgyn.com> wrote: Thanks Ken, the standalone dragon looks really good. It complements really well the yellow elephant! Regards, -clr *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 9:53 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal Hi, I like both. I do agree that the font for “Trafodion” makes a’s and o’s too much alike. Would be nice
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Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well. Though I would prefer a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out and I'm not fond of it overall... But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at all Thanks Ken! -Carol P. --- Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com Twitter: @CarolP222 --- On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> wrote: > Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both. > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < > sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: > >> Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look. >> The dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J >> >> >> >> *From:* Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com] >> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM >> >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion. Like the dragon to sit on the right, >> not on top of Trafodion. But the font in #4 looks more professional >> (perhaps also in lower case). >> >> >> >> Weishiun >> >> >> >> *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] >> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), but >> with the placement of option 6. >> >> >> >> That said, either one is fine. >> >> >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com] >> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> +1 option 4 >> >> >> >> *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] >> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> +1 option 4 >> >> >> >> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. >> >> But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. >> >> >> >> Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. >> >> >> >> Option 4 >> >> >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing >> >> >> >> Option 6 >> >> >> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing >> >> >> >> Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited >> field testing! >> >> Comments on 4 & 6? >> >> >> >> Cheers, Ken >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < >> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: >> >> I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we >> could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different >> color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as >> well. >> >> >> >> *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM >> >> >> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal >> >> >> >> +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another >> somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the >> trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my >> favorite). >> >> >> Hans >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a >> vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, >> which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. >> >> >> >> I'll make a stab at changing the font and size
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Option 4 looks good. The other one is not "serious" enough for my taste. Just my 2 cents. Enis On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 7:05 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote: > Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well. Though I would > prefer a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out > and I'm not fond of it overall... > > But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at > all > > Thanks Ken! > > -Carol P. > > --- > Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com > Twitter: @CarolP222 > --- > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both. >> >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < >> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: >> >>> Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look. >>> The dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM >>> >>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion. Like the dragon to sit on the >>> right, not on top of Trafodion. But the font in #4 looks more professional >>> (perhaps also in lower case). >>> >>> >>> >>> Weishiun >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM >>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), >>> but with the placement of option 6. >>> >>> >>> >>> That said, either one is fine. >>> >>> >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM >>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> +1 option 4 >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM >>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> +1 option 4 >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] >>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM >>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. >>> >>> But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. >>> >>> >>> >>> Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. >>> >>> >>> >>> Option 4 >>> >>> >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing >>> >>> >>> >>> Option 6 >>> >>> >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing >>> >>> >>> >>> Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited >>> field testing! >>> >>> Comments on 4 & 6? >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers, Ken >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < >>> sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: >>> >>> I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we >>> could try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different >>> color like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as >>> well. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM >>> >>> >>> *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>&g
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Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both. On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: > Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look. The > dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J > > > > *From:* Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM > > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal > > > > +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion. Like the dragon to sit on the right, > not on top of Trafodion. But the font in #4 looks more professional > (perhaps also in lower case). > > > > Weishiun > > > > *From:* Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal > > > > Hi, > > > > I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), but > with the placement of option 6. > > > > That said, either one is fine. > > > > Dave > > > > *From:* Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal > > > > +1 option 4 > > > > *From:* Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal > > > > +1 option 4 > > > > *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal > > > > Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. > > But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. > > > > Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. > > > > Option 4 > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing > > > > Option 6 > > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing > > > > Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited > field testing! > > Comments on 4 & 6? > > > > Cheers, Ken > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan < > sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: > > I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we could > try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different color > like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well. > > > > *From:* Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM > > > *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org > *Subject:* Re: Logo Proposal > > > > +1 for the dragon as well. We used to have an informal logo with another > somewhat cursive font, it shows in one of the carousel pictures on the > trafodion.apache.org site. That might be better (although still not my > favorite). > > > Hans > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Ken Holt <knhknhknh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > By the way, the size of the example logo is arbitrary. The original is a > vector graphics file that will scale up or down with no loss of quality, > which I will make available when the debate has settled on something. > > > > I'll make a stab at changing the font and size relative to the dragon and > post another version of that. > > > > Agree that separating the dragon from the name/font makes sense. > > Cheers, Ken > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:49 AM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote: > > +1 on dragon. > > > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > +1 on the Dragon!!! Looks great! > > > > On the writing, cursive is hard to read, so I'm up for replacing it > separately. Maybe we vote on each separately (as Sandhya and Amanda did)? > > > > > > Voting separately is a good idea. Having engineers vote on 'designs' is > always a tough one. Sounds like folks like the dragon but not the > cursive... so suggest splitting out what we vote on so at least the dragon > carries. > > > > St.Ack > > > > > > > > -Carol P. > > > ------- > > Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com > > Twitter: @CarolP222 > > ---
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Option 4!! Trina > On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Carol Pearson <carol.pearson...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Slightly late to the party, but +1 on option 4 as well. Though I would > prefer a slightly less formal font, the one in option 6 is too spaced out and > I'm not fond of it overall... > > But that's really a nit and this is infinitely better than no logo at all > > > Thanks Ken! > > -Carol P. > > --- > Email:carol.pearson...@gmail.com > Twitter: @CarolP222 > --- > >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Gunnar Tapper <tapper.gun...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> Neither. Keep the font the same for Apache and Trafodion. Bold them both. >> >>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan >>> <sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: >>> Perhaps we should try and see how lowercase with both placements look. The >>> dragon on top looks better to many. We can take votes again J >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Wei-Shiun Tsai [mailto:wei-shiun.t...@esgyn.com] >>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:13 PM >>> >>> >>> To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> Subject: RE: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> +1 for Dave’s and Hans’ suggestion. Like the dragon to sit on the right, >>> not on top of Trafodion. But the font in #4 looks more professional >>> (perhaps also in lower case). >>> >>> >>> >>> Weishiun >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Dave Birdsall [mailto:dave.birds...@esgyn.com] >>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:04 PM >>> To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> Subject: RE: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> I like the font for option 4 (perhaps lower cased as Hans mentioned), but >>> with the placement of option 6. >>> >>> >>> >>> That said, either one is fine. >>> >>> >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Eric Owhadi [mailto:eric.owh...@esgyn.com] >>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 3:02 PM >>> To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> Subject: RE: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> +1 option 4 >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Anuradha Hegde [mailto:anuradha.he...@esgyn.com] >>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:57 PM >>> To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> Subject: RE: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> +1 option 4 >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 2:51 PM >>> To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> Subject: Re: Logo Proposal >>> >>> >>> >>> Seems like the dragon logo itself is a winner - most everyone liked that. >>> >>> But the combined logo and name was definitely not popular. >>> >>> >>> >>> Here are a couple of new suggestions for the combined logo and name. >>> >>> >>> >>> Option 4 >>> >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4T3o3YVBDakNtQkU/view?usp=sharing >>> >>> >>> >>> Option 6 >>> >>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y082OHhNNXBwazA/view?usp=sharing >>> >>> >>> >>> Don't ask for options 1-3, & 5 - they didn't make it passed my limited >>> field testing! >>> >>> Comments on 4 & 6? >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers, Ken >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Sandhya Sundaresan >>> <sandhya.sundare...@esgyn.com> wrote: >>> >>> I’d say there is enough “curliness” going on with the dragon. So we could >>> try with a simple bold font . Perhaps with an outline of a different color >>> like Hadoop’s/Mahouts is and tie it in with the dragon’s colors as well. >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Hans Zeller [mailto:hans.zel...@esgyn.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:46 PM >>> >>> >>> To: user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org >>> Subject: Re: Logo Proposal >>>
RE: Logo Proposal
+1 on reduced size of the dragon. The Trafodion writing needs to be at a closer scale to the Dragon sort of like it is on the Apache Hadoop website for Hadoop logo and the elephant. It will make the writing standout more. *From:* Venkat Muthuswamy [mailto:venkat.muthusw...@esgyn.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2016 11:33 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* RE: Logo Proposal +1 on the logo. I tried a reduced size and it still rendered nicely ! I agree with the others on the font. We need a simple font that make the product name stand out. Maybe use the same font as the “APACHE” but in different color ? Venkat *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 09, 2016 9:48 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Logo Proposal Hi All, Apache Trafodion needs a logo. I believe there was some discussion about a logo for Trafodion quite some time ago, but we never really resolved it. In the very early days of Trafodion, before becoming an Apache project (incubating) I devised a logo that leveraged the Welsh connection of the project name, and that was a simple cute dragon. I now have a much improved version of that original logo and propose that we use this as the official Trafodion logo going forward. Dragon standalone - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4QmttYnBzZDdFSTQ/view?usp=sharing Trafodion name & dragon - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y3RRdVQwb0owSFU/view?usp=sharing I’m not thrilled with the font choice for “Trafodion” – the o’s and a’s look too similar. Thoughts? Should we vote on this? Cheers, Ken
RE: Logo Proposal
+1 on the logo. I tried a reduced size and it still rendered nicely ! I agree with the others on the font. We need a simple font that make the product name stand out. Maybe use the same font as the “APACHE” but in different color ? Venkat *From:* Ken Holt [mailto:knhknhknh...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, February 09, 2016 9:48 AM *To:* user@trafodion.incubator.apache.org *Subject:* Logo Proposal Hi All, Apache Trafodion needs a logo. I believe there was some discussion about a logo for Trafodion quite some time ago, but we never really resolved it. In the very early days of Trafodion, before becoming an Apache project (incubating) I devised a logo that leveraged the Welsh connection of the project name, and that was a simple cute dragon. I now have a much improved version of that original logo and propose that we use this as the official Trafodion logo going forward. Dragon standalone - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4QmttYnBzZDdFSTQ/view?usp=sharing Trafodion name & dragon - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9c1EkzsNnw4Y3RRdVQwb0owSFU/view?usp=sharing I’m not thrilled with the font choice for “Trafodion” – the o’s and a’s look too similar. Thoughts? Should we vote on this? Cheers, Ken
