Re: Windows VM performance in ACS

[Jayanth Babu A]

Hello Alexandru,
Alright. Please past the output of # virsh dumpxml 

Thanks,
Jayanth


From: Alexandru Stan 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 2:01:35 am
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org 
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

Did that and I'm not really sure that the situation is improved. Right after 
booting I started installing the latest CU for May and it was done in 1 hour 
and 30 minutes. I know that these things sometimes take a while to install but 
this seems way too much...


-Original Message-
From: Jayanth Babu A 
Sent: 23 May, 2024 21:55
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: Windows VM performance in ACS

Hello Alexandru,
Thanks for sharing. The reason could be that the VM is using IDE instead of 
virtio. Please stop the VM and add the key "rootDiskController" with value 
"virtio" and see the difference. You'll have to ensure that virtio drivers are 
installed on the VM so that it would be able to detect the disks.

Thanks,
Jayanth


From: Alexandru Stan 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 12:21:03 am
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org 
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

Hi Jayanth,

I don't have that key. In the settings section of the vm there are 2 keys, 
Message.ReservedCapacityFreed.Flag and rootdisksize.
I don't have a template yet, actually this vm was installed from a Windows ISO 
(that is registered as Windows PV in ACS) and I was hoping to transform it into 
a template with cloudbase-init, but since the performance is so bad I didn't 
get past the updates phase...

Alex


-Original Message-
From: Jayanth Babu A 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 4:54 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: Windows VM performance in ACS

Hello Alexandru,
I’m not able to see the image. Would you please check the value for the key 
“rootDiskController” in both template and the Windows VM if the template OS 
type is “Windows PV” already? You’ll find it in the settings section.

Regards,
Jayanth Reddy

From: Alexandru Stan 
Date: Thursday, 23 May 2024 at 5:53 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org 
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS Yes, I installed the guest tools 
right at first boot.

[cid:image001.png@01DAAD25.1CAA02B0]

From: Gary Dixon 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 2:32 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

Have you checked in the VM's device manager that all devices are using virtio 
drivers (disk, disk controller, nic adapter etc) 
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From: Alexandru Stan 
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Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 11:17 AM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

Hi Gary,

That’s what I used when registering the ISO. Doesn’t seem to help at all 
unfortunately.


From: Gary Dixon 
mailto:gary.di...@quadris.co.uk.INVALID>>
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 1:14 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

HI Alexandru

We use "Windows PV" OS type on our Windows VM's - this provides the Hyper-V 
enlightenments.

BR

Gary

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Re: Windows VM performance in ACS

[Wei ZHOU]

Changing os type to "Windows PV" looks better. The nic will use virtio
device instead of default e1000 device

-Wei


On Thursday, May 23, 2024, Alexandru Stan
 wrote:

> Did that and I'm not really sure that the situation is improved. Right
> after booting I started installing the latest CU for May and it was done in
> 1 hour and 30 minutes. I know that these things sometimes take a while to
> install but this seems way too much...
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jayanth Babu A 
> Sent: 23 May, 2024 21:55
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Windows VM performance in ACS
>
> Hello Alexandru,
> Thanks for sharing. The reason could be that the VM is using IDE instead
> of virtio. Please stop the VM and add the key "rootDiskController" with
> value "virtio" and see the difference. You'll have to ensure that virtio
> drivers are installed on the VM so that it would be able to detect the
> disks.
>
> Thanks,
> Jayanth
>
> 
> From: Alexandru Stan 
> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 12:21:03 am
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org 
> Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS
>
> Hi Jayanth,
>
> I don't have that key. In the settings section of the vm there are 2 keys,
> Message.ReservedCapacityFreed.Flag and rootdisksize.
> I don't have a template yet, actually this vm was installed from a Windows
> ISO (that is registered as Windows PV in ACS) and I was hoping to transform
> it into a template with cloudbase-init, but since the performance is so bad
> I didn't get past the updates phase...
>
> Alex
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jayanth Babu A 
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 4:54 PM
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Windows VM performance in ACS
>
> Hello Alexandru,
> I’m not able to see the image. Would you please check the value for the
> key “rootDiskController” in both template and the Windows VM if the
> template OS type is “Windows PV” already? You’ll find it in the settings
> section.
>
> Regards,
> Jayanth Reddy
>
> From: Alexandru Stan 
> Date: Thursday, 23 May 2024 at 5:53 PM
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org 
> Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS Yes, I installed the guest
> tools right at first boot.
>
> [cid:image001.png@01DAAD25.1CAA02B0]
>
> From: Gary Dixon 
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 2:32 PM
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS
>
> Have you checked in the VM's device manager that all devices are using
> virtio drivers (disk, disk controller, nic adapter etc)
> [cid:image535355.png@39364AC9.99EC2427]
> Gary Dixon
> Quadris Cloud Manager
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> From: Alexandru Stan  alexandru.s...@lifeincloud.com.INVALID>>
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 11:17 AM
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS
>
> Hi Gary,
>
> That’s what I used when registering the ISO. Doesn’t seem to help at all
> unfortunately.
>
>
> From: Gary Dixon mailto:Gary.Dixon@
> quadris.co.uk.INVALID>>
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 1:14 PM
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS
>
> HI Alexandru
>
> We use "Windows PV" OS type on our Windows VM's - this provides the
> Hyper-V enlightenments.
>
> BR
>
> Gary
>
> [cid:image795113.png@DAEF2351.E3855BD4]
> Gary Dixon
> Quadris Cloud Manager
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> +44 (0) 161 537 4980
> +44 (0) 7989 717661
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> 

RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

[Alexandru Stan]

Did that and I'm not really sure that the situation is improved. Right after 
booting I started installing the latest CU for May and it was done in 1 hour 
and 30 minutes. I know that these things sometimes take a while to install but 
this seems way too much...


-Original Message-
From: Jayanth Babu A  
Sent: 23 May, 2024 21:55
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: Windows VM performance in ACS

Hello Alexandru,
Thanks for sharing. The reason could be that the VM is using IDE instead of 
virtio. Please stop the VM and add the key "rootDiskController" with value 
"virtio" and see the difference. You'll have to ensure that virtio drivers are 
installed on the VM so that it would be able to detect the disks.

Thanks,
Jayanth


From: Alexandru Stan 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 12:21:03 am
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org 
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

Hi Jayanth,

I don't have that key. In the settings section of the vm there are 2 keys, 
Message.ReservedCapacityFreed.Flag and rootdisksize.
I don't have a template yet, actually this vm was installed from a Windows ISO 
(that is registered as Windows PV in ACS) and I was hoping to transform it into 
a template with cloudbase-init, but since the performance is so bad I didn't 
get past the updates phase...

Alex


-Original Message-
From: Jayanth Babu A 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 4:54 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: Windows VM performance in ACS

Hello Alexandru,
I’m not able to see the image. Would you please check the value for the key 
“rootDiskController” in both template and the Windows VM if the template OS 
type is “Windows PV” already? You’ll find it in the settings section.

Regards,
Jayanth Reddy

From: Alexandru Stan 
Date: Thursday, 23 May 2024 at 5:53 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org 
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS Yes, I installed the guest tools 
right at first boot.

[cid:image001.png@01DAAD25.1CAA02B0]

From: Gary Dixon 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 2:32 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

Have you checked in the VM's device manager that all devices are using virtio 
drivers (disk, disk controller, nic adapter etc) 
[cid:image535355.png@39364AC9.99EC2427]
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Quadris Cloud Manager
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From: Alexandru Stan 
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Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 11:17 AM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

Hi Gary,

That’s what I used when registering the ISO. Doesn’t seem to help at all 
unfortunately.


From: Gary Dixon 
mailto:gary.di...@quadris.co.uk.INVALID>>
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 1:14 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

HI Alexandru

We use "Windows PV" OS type on our Windows VM's - this provides the Hyper-V 
enlightenments.

BR

Gary

[cid:image795113.png@DAEF2351.E3855BD4]
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Re: Windows VM performance in ACS

[Jayanth Babu A]

Hello Alexandru,
Thanks for sharing. The reason could be that the VM is using IDE instead of 
virtio. Please stop the VM and add the key "rootDiskController" with value 
"virtio" and see the difference. You'll have to ensure that virtio drivers are 
installed on the VM so that it would be able to detect the disks.

Thanks,
Jayanth


From: Alexandru Stan 
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 12:21:03 am
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org 
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

Hi Jayanth,

I don't have that key. In the settings section of the vm there are 2 keys, 
Message.ReservedCapacityFreed.Flag and rootdisksize.
I don't have a template yet, actually this vm was installed from a Windows ISO 
(that is registered as Windows PV in ACS) and I was hoping to transform it into 
a template with cloudbase-init, but since the performance is so bad I didn't 
get past the updates phase...

Alex


-Original Message-
From: Jayanth Babu A 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 4:54 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: Windows VM performance in ACS

Hello Alexandru,
I’m not able to see the image. Would you please check the value for the key 
“rootDiskController” in both template and the Windows VM if the template OS 
type is “Windows PV” already? You’ll find it in the settings section.

Regards,
Jayanth Reddy

From: Alexandru Stan 
Date: Thursday, 23 May 2024 at 5:53 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org 
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS Yes, I installed the guest tools 
right at first boot.

[cid:image001.png@01DAAD25.1CAA02B0]

From: Gary Dixon 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 2:32 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

Have you checked in the VM's device manager that all devices are using virtio 
drivers (disk, disk controller, nic adapter etc) 
[cid:image535355.png@39364AC9.99EC2427]
Gary Dixon
Quadris Cloud Manager
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+44 (0) 161 537 4980
 +44 (0) 7989 717661
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From: Alexandru Stan 
mailto:alexandru.s...@lifeincloud.com.INVALID>>
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 11:17 AM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

Hi Gary,

That’s what I used when registering the ISO. Doesn’t seem to help at all 
unfortunately.


From: Gary Dixon 
mailto:gary.di...@quadris.co.uk.INVALID>>
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 1:14 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

HI Alexandru

We use "Windows PV" OS type on our Windows VM's - this provides the Hyper-V 
enlightenments.

BR

Gary

[cid:image795113.png@DAEF2351.E3855BD4]
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Quadris Cloud Manager
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From: Alexandru Stan 

RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

[Alexandru Stan]

Hi Jayanth,

I don't have that key. In the settings section of the vm there are 2 keys, 
Message.ReservedCapacityFreed.Flag and rootdisksize. 
I don't have a template yet, actually this vm was installed from a Windows ISO 
(that is registered as Windows PV in ACS) and I was hoping to transform it into 
a template with cloudbase-init, but since the performance is so bad I didn't 
get past the updates phase...

Alex


-Original Message-
From: Jayanth Babu A  
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 4:54 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: Windows VM performance in ACS

Hello Alexandru,
I’m not able to see the image. Would you please check the value for the key 
“rootDiskController” in both template and the Windows VM if the template OS 
type is “Windows PV” already? You’ll find it in the settings section.

Regards,
Jayanth Reddy

From: Alexandru Stan 
Date: Thursday, 23 May 2024 at 5:53 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org 
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS Yes, I installed the guest tools 
right at first boot.

[cid:image001.png@01DAAD25.1CAA02B0]

From: Gary Dixon 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 2:32 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

Have you checked in the VM's device manager that all devices are using virtio 
drivers (disk, disk controller, nic adapter etc) 
[cid:image535355.png@39364AC9.99EC2427]
Gary Dixon
Quadris Cloud Manager
[cid:image073403.png@5F5163CD.BCC16405]
+44 (0) 161 537 4980
 +44 (0) 7989 717661
[cid:image544450.png@462E4508.F6776E5F]
gary.di...@quadris.co.uk
[cid:image958545.png@2524980D.56B1E4D4]
www.quadris.com
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Innovation House, 12‑13 Bredbury Business Park Bredbury Park Way, Bredbury, 
Stockport, SK6 2SN -Original Message-
From: Alexandru Stan 
mailto:alexandru.s...@lifeincloud.com.INVALID>>
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 11:17 AM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

Hi Gary,

That’s what I used when registering the ISO. Doesn’t seem to help at all 
unfortunately.


From: Gary Dixon 
mailto:gary.di...@quadris.co.uk.INVALID>>
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 1:14 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

HI Alexandru

We use "Windows PV" OS type on our Windows VM's - this provides the Hyper-V 
enlightenments.

BR

Gary

[cid:image795113.png@DAEF2351.E3855BD4]
Gary Dixon
Quadris Cloud Manager
[cid:image752066.png@3A68EBBE.280BF225]
+44 (0) 161 537 4980
+44 (0) 7989 717661
[cid:image143416.png@CD1E068B.3BF4E714]
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http://www.quadris.com/>
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Stockport, SK6 2SN -Original Message-
From: Alexandru Stan 
mailto:alexandru.s...@lifeincloud.com.INVALID>>
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 10:40 AM
To: 
users@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: Windows VM performance in ACS

Hi everyone,

Is there anything that must be done to improve the performance of Windows VMs 
in ACS? I tried to deploy a W10 instance, with the virtio drivers, and the 
performance is very, very poor (for example it took almost 3 hours to install a 
CU, the actual setup took about 50 minutes and so on). The hypervisor kvm on a 
HP server, with ssd's for storage. In other apps there are those hyper-v 
enlightments that can be enabled for Windows guests and it really makes a 
difference, but I have no idea if this is a thing in ACS too. If someone has 
some info on this, please share.

Thank you!
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[Marty Godsey]

Hello all,

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snapshots, etc. until the storage is back up, correct? Other than this, are 
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Second question. I am currently using the Advanced networking type on XCP-NG.  
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[Suresh Anaparti]

Hi João Jandre,

I think, it's better to do 4.19.1.0 before 4.20.0.0, and schedule 4.20.0.0 
release a month or two after 4.19.1.0 release. Considering the 4.19.1.0 
timelines proposed [1], you can target 4.20.0.0 in Q3, around Aug end (or early 
Sept). Please let me know your thoughts.

[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/fo8s9qzh625c4fk8rgzjhpdn9kfgoqsp


Regards,
Suresh

From: João Jandre 
Date: Monday, 6 May 2024 at 7:37 PM
To: d...@cloudstack.apache.org , 
users@cloudstack.apache.org 
Subject: [PROPOSAL] Update the 4.20.0.0 release schedule
Hi all,

Regarding the original 4.20.0.0 release schedule proposed here:
https://lists.apache.org/thread/nyoddmwydz2t59hsfs7gf0vozlf7n434, I
would like to propose an update to it.

Considering that:
1. The community expended a lot of time working to fix the CVEs that
were recently found;
2. The community is busy with 4.19.1.0;
3. The original schedule would put the COCEU 2024 and the RC1 on the
same week;

I think we should postpone the 4.20.0.0 release for at least a month.
That being said, here is the updated schedule I propose:

- On the first week of July, we freeze the main branch. That means any
feature must be in by the last week of June. Only accept
critical/blocker issues until the second week of July.
- On the second week of July, cut 4.20.0.0 RC1 and further RCs if
necessary, start/conclude vote, and finish release work.

What are your thoughts?

Best Regards,
João Jandre

 

Re: [PROPOSE] RM for 4.19.1.0

[Suresh Anaparti]

Hi All,

It's been few months since the proposal, and we've fixed/tested/merged 139 
Issues and PRs in the 4.19.1.0 milestone [1]. Currently, we've 202 open items 
in the 4.19.1.0 milestone, tracked/triaged through the GitHub project 'Apache 
CloudStack 4.19.1' [2].

We can target for the "Must have" - 14 [3] and "Should have" - 23 [4] items. 
Feel free to work on "Good to have" / any other items in case anyone wants it 
in 4.19.1.0. Ping me (@sureshanaparti) on your issues and PRs, that are to be 
included in 4.19.1.0.

With that target, I propose the following timelines for 4.19.1.0 release, which 
is targeted for end of Q2 2024. Please let me know if you have any feedback, 
thoughts.

- (Ongoing) till Mid-Jun 2024, 16-Jun: Accept all bugs, issues, minor 
improvements allowed in LTS [5]
- (1 week) 17-Jun till 23-Jun: Accept only critical/blocker fixes if any, and 
stabilise 4.19 branch
- (1 week) from 24-Jun Onwards: Cut 4.19.1.0 RC1 (and further RCs if 
necessary), start/conclude vote, and finish release work

Looking forward for your support on bug fixes, reviews, tests, etc. Thanks.

[1] https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/milestone/31
[2] https://github.com/orgs/apache/projects/341
[3] 
https://github.com/orgs/apache/projects/341/views/1?filterQuery=repo%3Aapache%2Fcloudstack+milestone%3A4.19.1.0++priority%3A%22Must+have%22+-status%3ADone
[4] 
https://github.com/orgs/apache/projects/341/views/1?filterQuery=repo%3Aapache%2Fcloudstack+milestone%3A4.19.1.0+priority%3A%22Should+have%22+-status%3ADone
[5] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/LTS


Regards,
Suresh

From: Suresh Anaparti 
Date: Monday, 12 February 2024 at 5:19 PM
To: d...@cloudstack.apache.org , 
users@cloudstack.apache.org 
Subject: [PROPOSE] RM for 4.19.1.0
Hi All,

CloudStack 4.19.0.0 is the latest LTS release. There are already some open 
issues [1]  and pull requests [2] targeted for 4.19.1.0 [3] release.

I'd like to propose and put myself forward as the release manager for 4.19.1.0 
if no objections there. Please ping me (@sureshanaparti) on GitHub, in case you 
want to include any Issue/PR in 4.19.1.0.

I propose to have a window of at least 8 weeks (2 months), which allows the 
community / users to test, use 4.19.0.0 and report any issues. We can aim to 
cut RC1 in Q2 2024 (maybe, sometime in May-2024). I'll propose the timeline 
details soon. I hope to have your support.

Please let me know if you have any thoughts/comments.

[1] 
https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+milestone%3A4.19.1.0
[2] 
https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pulls?q=is%3Apr+milestone%3A4.19.1.0+is%3Aopen
[3] https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/milestone/31


Regards,
Suresh

 

Re: Windows VM performance in ACS

[Jayanth Babu A]

Hello Alexandru,
I’m not able to see the image. Would you please check the value for the key 
“rootDiskController” in both template and the Windows VM if the template OS 
type is “Windows PV” already? You’ll find it in the settings section.

Regards,
Jayanth Reddy

From: Alexandru Stan 
Date: Thursday, 23 May 2024 at 5:53 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org 
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS
Yes, I installed the guest tools right at first boot.

[cid:image001.png@01DAAD25.1CAA02B0]

From: Gary Dixon 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 2:32 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

Have you checked in the VM's device manager that all devices are using virtio 
drivers (disk, disk controller, nic adapter etc)
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Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 11:17 AM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

Hi Gary,

That’s what I used when registering the ISO. Doesn’t seem to help at all 
unfortunately.


From: Gary Dixon 
mailto:gary.di...@quadris.co.uk.INVALID>>
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 1:14 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

HI Alexandru

We use "Windows PV" OS type on our Windows VM's - this provides the Hyper-V 
enlightenments.

BR

Gary

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Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 10:40 AM
To: 
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Subject: Windows VM performance in ACS

Hi everyone,

Is there anything that must be done to improve the performance of Windows VMs 
in ACS? I tried to deploy a W10 instance, with the virtio drivers, and the 
performance is very, very poor (for example it took almost 3 hours to install a 
CU, the actual setup took about 50 minutes and so on). The hypervisor kvm on a 
HP server, with ssd's for storage. In other apps there are those hyper-v 
enlightments that can be enabled for Windows guests and it really makes a 
difference, but I have no idea if this is a thing in ACS too. If someone has 
some info on this, please share.

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RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

[Alexandru Stan]

Yes, I installed the guest tools right at first boot.

[cid:image001.png@01DAAD25.1CAA02B0]

From: Gary Dixon 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 2:32 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

Have you checked in the VM's device manager that all devices are using virtio 
drivers (disk, disk controller, nic adapter etc)

[cid:image535355.png@39364AC9.99EC2427]
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From: Alexandru Stan 
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Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 11:17 AM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

Hi Gary,

That’s what I used when registering the ISO. Doesn’t seem to help at all 
unfortunately.


From: Gary Dixon 
mailto:gary.di...@quadris.co.uk.INVALID>>
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 1:14 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

HI Alexandru

We use "Windows PV" OS type on our Windows VM's - this provides the Hyper-V 
enlightenments.

BR

Gary

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Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 10:40 AM
To: 
users@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: Windows VM performance in ACS

Hi everyone,

Is there anything that must be done to improve the performance of Windows VMs 
in ACS? I tried to deploy a W10 instance, with the virtio drivers, and the 
performance is very, very poor (for example it took almost 3 hours to install a 
CU, the actual setup took about 50 minutes and so on). The hypervisor kvm on a 
HP server, with ssd's for storage. In other apps there are those hyper-v 
enlightments that can be enabled for Windows guests and it really makes a 
difference, but I have no idea if this is a thing in ACS too. If someone has 
some info on this, please share.

Thank you!

RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

[Gary Dixon]

Have you checked in the VM's device manager that all devices are using virtio 
drivers (disk, disk controller, nic adapter etc)



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-Original Message-
From: Alexandru Stan 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 11:17 AM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

Hi Gary,

That’s what I used when registering the ISO. Doesn’t seem to help at all 
unfortunately.


From: Gary Dixon 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 1:14 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

HI Alexandru

We use "Windows PV" OS type on our Windows VM's - this provides the Hyper-V 
enlightenments.

BR

Gary

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From: Alexandru Stan 
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Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 10:40 AM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Windows VM performance in ACS

Hi everyone,

Is there anything that must be done to improve the performance of Windows VMs 
in ACS? I tried to deploy a W10 instance, with the virtio drivers, and the 
performance is very, very poor (for example it took almost 3 hours to install a 
CU, the actual setup took about 50 minutes and so on). The hypervisor kvm on a 
HP server, with ssd's for storage. In other apps there are those hyper-v 
enlightments that can be enabled for Windows guests and it really makes a 
difference, but I have no idea if this is a thing in ACS too. If someone has 
some info on this, please share.

Thank you!

RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

[Alexandru Stan]

Hi Gary,

That’s what I used when registering the ISO. Doesn’t seem to help at all 
unfortunately.


From: Gary Dixon 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 1:14 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

HI Alexandru

We use "Windows PV" OS type on our Windows VM's - this provides the Hyper-V 
enlightenments.

BR

Gary

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From: Alexandru Stan 
mailto:alexandru.s...@lifeincloud.com.INVALID>>
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 10:40 AM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Windows VM performance in ACS

Hi everyone,

Is there anything that must be done to improve the performance of Windows VMs 
in ACS? I tried to deploy a W10 instance, with the virtio drivers, and the 
performance is very, very poor (for example it took almost 3 hours to install a 
CU, the actual setup took about 50 minutes and so on). The hypervisor kvm on a 
HP server, with ssd's for storage. In other apps there are those hyper-v 
enlightments that can be enabled for Windows guests and it really makes a 
difference, but I have no idea if this is a thing in ACS too. If someone has 
some info on this, please share.

Thank you!

RE: Windows VM performance in ACS

[Gary Dixon]

HI Alexandru

We use "Windows PV" OS type on our Windows VM's - this provides the Hyper-V 
enlightenments.

BR

Gary



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-Original Message-
From: Alexandru Stan 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 10:40 AM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Windows VM performance in ACS

Hi everyone,

Is there anything that must be done to improve the performance of Windows VMs 
in ACS? I tried to deploy a W10 instance, with the virtio drivers, and the 
performance is very, very poor (for example it took almost 3 hours to install a 
CU, the actual setup took about 50 minutes and so on). The hypervisor kvm on a 
HP server, with ssd's for storage. In other apps there are those hyper-v 
enlightments that can be enabled for Windows guests and it really makes a 
difference, but I have no idea if this is a thing in ACS too. If someone has 
some info on this, please share.

Thank you!

Windows VM performance in ACS

[Alexandru Stan]

Hi everyone,

Is there anything that must be done to improve the performance of Windows VMs 
in ACS? I tried to deploy a W10 instance, with the virtio drivers, and the 
performance is very, very poor (for example it took almost 3 hours to install a 
CU, the actual setup took about 50 minutes and so on). The hypervisor kvm on a 
HP server, with ssd's for storage. In other apps there are those hyper-v 
enlightments that can be enabled for Windows guests and it really makes a 
difference, but I have no idea if this is a thing in ACS too. If someone has 
some info on this, please share.

Thank you!

RE: Dynamic routing for routed mode IPv6 and IPv4 Isolated and VPC networks

[Alex Mattioli]

The idea is to allocate the AS number pools in the same way we allocate VLANs 
to a zone, with the possibility to enter the AS number manually per network 
(depending on offering, just like in the case of VLANs).

>This would solve most use-cases from the start:
>- BGP peer on zone level
 >  - override on network level
> AS number pool
>  - networks refer to this pool
>- BGP multihop enabled yes or no
>   - zone level
>   - network level override
>- BGP password

Definitely how we want to implement it, with a few additions, thanks for the 
input.

Cheers
Alex

 


-Original Message-
From: Wido den Hollander  
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2024 9:16 AM
To: Alex Mattioli ; d...@cloudstack.apache.org; 
users@cloudstack.apache.org; adietr...@ussignal.com
Subject: Re: Dynamic routing for routed mode IPv6 and IPv4 Isolated and VPC 
networks



Op 22/05/2024 om 14:55 schreef Alex Mattioli:
> Thanks for the input Wido,
> 
>> That said, you could also opt that you can specify BGP peers are zone level 
>> and override them at network level if one prefers. Nothing specified at >the 
>> network? The zone-level peers are used. If you do >specify them at the 
>> network level those are used. Again, think about multihop.
> 

Have you thought about the AS number pool? This pool could be assigned to a 
network. All networks can point to the same AS number pool or have multiple 
pools where you might make different choices.

On the network level this allows you to create specific BGP filters based on 
the AS number. When these are in fixed 'blocks' you can create better filters.

> That's exactly what I had in mind, the same way we set DNS for the zone but 
> can specify at network level as well. This way we keep self-service intact 
> for when end-users simply want a routed network that peers with whatever the 
> provider has setup upstream but also give the ability to either peer with an 
> user managed VNF upstream or an operator provided router.
> 
> I hope this way we can cater for most use cases, at least with a first simple 
> implementation.
> 
> Will definitely keep multihop in mind.

+ BGP password. This would solve most use-cases from the start:

- BGP peer on zone level
   - override on network level
- AS number pool
   - networks refer to this pool
- BGP multihop enabled yes or no
   - zone level
   - network level override
- BGP password

Wido

> 
> Cheers,
> Alex
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Wido den Hollander 
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 8:22 PM
> To: d...@cloudstack.apache.org; Alex Mattioli 
> ; users@cloudstack.apache.org; 
> adietr...@ussignal.com
> Subject: Re: Dynamic routing for routed mode IPv6 and IPv4 Isolated 
> and VPC networks
> 
> 
> 
> Op 20/05/2024 om 14:45 schreef Alex Mattioli:
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> In this scenario:
>>
>>> I think adding the ability to add network specific peers as mentioned in 
>>> one of >your prior replies would still allow the level of control some 
>>> operators (myself >included) may desire.
>>
>> How do you propose network specific peers to be implemented?
>>
> 
> I do agree with Alex (Dietrich) that I think BGP peers should be 
> configured per network. There is no guarantee that every VLAN/VNI
> (VXLAN) ends up at the same pair of routers. Technically there is also no 
> need to do so.
> 
> Let's say I have two VNI (VXLAN):
> 
> VNI 500:
> Router 1: 192.168.153.1 / 2001:db8::153:1 Router 2: 192.168.153.2 / 
> 2001:db8::153:2
> 
> VNI 600:
> Router 1: 192.168.155.1 / 2001:db8::155:1 Router 2: 192.168.155.2 / 
> 2001:db8::155:2
> 
> In these case you would say that the upstream BGP peers are .153.1/2,
> .155.1/2 (and their IPv6 addresses). No need for BGP multihop.
> 
> Talking about multihop, I would make that optional, people might want to have 
> two central BGP routers where each VR peers with (multihop) and those routers 
> distribute the routes into the network again.
> 
> Per network you create you also provide the ASN range, but even better would 
> be to refer to a pool. You can use one pool for your zone by referencing 
> every network to the same pool are simply use multiple pools if your network 
> requires so.
> 
> That said, you could also opt that you can specify BGP peers are peer level 
> and override them at network level if one prefers. Nothing specified at the 
> network? The zone-level peers are used. If you do specify them at the network 
> level those are used. Again, think about multihop.
> 
> Wido
> 
>> Regards
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Dietrich, Alex 
>> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 2:21 PM
>> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org; d...@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Dynamic routing for routed mode IPv6 and IPv4 Isolated 
>> and VPC networks
>>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> This may be a difference in perspective in implementation of BGP at the 
>> tenant level. I see the ability this would provide to seamlessly 
>> establishing those peering relationships with minimal intervention 

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Re: Dynamic routing for routed mode IPv6 and IPv4 Isolated and VPC networks

[Wido den Hollander]

Op 22/05/2024 om 14:55 schreef Alex Mattioli:

Thanks for the input Wido,


That said, you could also opt that you can specify BGP peers are zone level and 
override them at network level if one prefers. Nothing specified at >the network? 
The zone-level peers are used. If you do >specify them at the network level those 
are used. Again, think about multihop.




Have you thought about the AS number pool? This pool could be assigned 
to a network. All networks can point to the same AS number pool or have 
multiple pools where you might make different choices.


On the network level this allows you to create specific BGP filters 
based on the AS number. When these are in fixed 'blocks' you can create 
better filters.



That's exactly what I had in mind, the same way we set DNS for the zone but can 
specify at network level as well. This way we keep self-service intact for when 
end-users simply want a routed network that peers with whatever the provider 
has setup upstream but also give the ability to either peer with an user 
managed VNF upstream or an operator provided router.

I hope this way we can cater for most use cases, at least with a first simple 
implementation.

Will definitely keep multihop in mind.


+ BGP password. This would solve most use-cases from the start:

- BGP peer on zone level
  - override on network level
- AS number pool
  - networks refer to this pool
- BGP multihop enabled yes or no
  - zone level
  - network level override
- BGP password

Wido



Cheers,
Alex


  



-Original Message-
From: Wido den Hollander 
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 8:22 PM
To: d...@cloudstack.apache.org; Alex Mattioli ; 
users@cloudstack.apache.org; adietr...@ussignal.com
Subject: Re: Dynamic routing for routed mode IPv6 and IPv4 Isolated and VPC 
networks



Op 20/05/2024 om 14:45 schreef Alex Mattioli:

Hi Alex,

In this scenario:


I think adding the ability to add network specific peers as mentioned in one of 
>your prior replies would still allow the level of control some operators (myself 
>included) may desire.


How do you propose network specific peers to be implemented?



I do agree with Alex (Dietrich) that I think BGP peers should be configured per 
network. There is no guarantee that every VLAN/VNI
(VXLAN) ends up at the same pair of routers. Technically there is also no need 
to do so.

Let's say I have two VNI (VXLAN):

VNI 500:
Router 1: 192.168.153.1 / 2001:db8::153:1 Router 2: 192.168.153.2 / 
2001:db8::153:2

VNI 600:
Router 1: 192.168.155.1 / 2001:db8::155:1 Router 2: 192.168.155.2 / 
2001:db8::155:2

In these case you would say that the upstream BGP peers are .153.1/2,
.155.1/2 (and their IPv6 addresses). No need for BGP multihop.

Talking about multihop, I would make that optional, people might want to have 
two central BGP routers where each VR peers with (multihop) and those routers 
distribute the routes into the network again.

Per network you create you also provide the ASN range, but even better would be 
to refer to a pool. You can use one pool for your zone by referencing every 
network to the same pool are simply use multiple pools if your network requires 
so.

That said, you could also opt that you can specify BGP peers are peer level and 
override them at network level if one prefers. Nothing specified at the 
network? The zone-level peers are used. If you do specify them at the network 
level those are used. Again, think about multihop.

Wido


Regards
Alex


   



-Original Message-
From: Dietrich, Alex 
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2024 2:21 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org; d...@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: Dynamic routing for routed mode IPv6 and IPv4 Isolated
and VPC networks

Hi Alex,

This may be a difference in perspective in implementation of BGP at the tenant 
level. I see the ability this would provide to seamlessly establishing those 
peering relationships with minimal intervention (helping scalability).

I think adding the ability to add network specific peers as mentioned in one of 
your prior replies would still allow the level of control some operators 
(myself included) may desire.

Thanks,
Alex

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