date:20110628

Hi :)
Is that still LO 3.3.3 on 64 bit Win7 ?

Can you re-name your current user-profile to get it all back to "factory 
defaults"?
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile
For Win7 i think the pathname is 
\Users\\AppData\Roaming\libreoffice\3\user 
I think i would rename the whole folder at the 3 point changing
\Users\\AppData\Roaming\libreoffice\3
to 
\Users\\AppData\Roaming\libreoffice\2011-06-28
The reverse date as a folder name means you can keep track of what the back-ups 
mean.  If renaming the profile works then you can copy chunks of your old 
profile back into the newer one.  The advantage with renaming is that you keep 
everything in the galleries and temp folders.  Also it allows you to compare 
and 
contrast to pinpoint where the problem happened if you have time at some future 
date.

Regards from
Tom :)




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> From: ian_mcquay 
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Sent: Tue, 28 June, 2011 2:53:44
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice won't start
> 
> Can't believe it.
> 
> Now the same commandline will not start LibreOffice. I  get the splash screen
> but no program window. I also get nothing in the Task  Manager Processes.
> 
> Ian
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice won't start

Hi :)
If you still have the downloads for 3.3.3 and 3.4.0 then it might be 
interesting 
to install both alongside each other so that if 1 is not quite doing what you 
want then you have easy access to the other
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel
Regards from
Tom :)




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> From: ian_mcquay 
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Sent: Tue, 28 June, 2011 2:35:08
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice won't start
> 
> Sigrid said: While in the Task Manager, just delete soffice.bin, this  should
> also automatically delete the two other processes. 
> 
> Thanks that  works.
> 
> 
> Sigrid said:  If you see the recovery assistant again,  instead of saying
> "yes, recover my files" just click on "cancel" and LibO  should start anew
> with a new document or at least with the startcenter open. 
> 
> There is no Cancel button just OK. The close [X] in the top corner does  not
> work either.
> 
> Sigrid said:  I can see that this is frustrating  - please try the above
> mentioned methods and report back if it has helped  you. 
> 
> Not so far.  Sorry for the delay for got to watch this email  for responses.
> I checked the MD5 on my download an that is fine.
> I have  tried repair but that did not change anything. 
> I did a new install over the  top and it started calc once but not again.
> I did an uninstall (twice) and  re-install. One allowed me to start calc then
> writer but then it was back to  recovery. The other time it was straight to
> recovery.
> 
> I am downloading  3.4.0
> 
> Ian
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: RTF support

Hi :)
LibreOffice is more highly developed, it is developing faster and has a more 
certain future.  Substantial clean-up of the code has made it about 30% smaller 
so it's faster to download and since it is more streamlined, hopefully it runs 
a 
bit faster.  


The main increased functionality that i remember is the improved vector 
graphics 
capability but there is a list of release notes somewhere that gives a better 
idea of how much faster LibreOffice is fixing and developing things.
Regards from
Tom :)




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> Sent: Mon, 27 June, 2011 23:46:32
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: RTF support
> 
> Is Libre Office the same/identical application as Open Office or are  they
> separate projects?
> The names and icons of the applications look  identical.
> 
> If not, can you briefly explain the difference.
> Thanks,  Tracey
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Re: [libreoffice-users] RTF support

Hi :)
Things have moved on a lot in the last few years.  MS Office can read the older 
ODFs and LibreOffice / OpenOffice can read the older ".doc" and ".xls" etc.  
The 
newer ".docX" and ".xlsX" etc do often work but sometimes create problems with 
images and text-boxes and stuff.  You can change the defaults in LibreOffice.  

Word-processor formats will often display slightly differently on different 
machines and in different versions of word-processors but it's easy to edit.  
This still happens with Rtfs too.  The pdf (= Portable Document Format) 
displays 
the same on every machine but it's not so easy to edit.  LibreOffice can export 
to Pdf so you can keep 2 versions; one to edit the other so people can see how 
it should look.  If you need to collaborate with other people that all need to 
make edits to a document then Google-Docs might be a good option, or else just 
give them all links to download LibreOffice or ask your IT department to 
roll-out onto all machines.  

MS Office is less sophisticated about placing pictures and text-boxes and stuff 
like that so sometimes pictures and things get moved around a bit.  This does 
also happen between any 2 versions of MS Office.  However, documents created in 
1 version of LibreOffice look the same in other versions.  

Trying to convince MS Office users to use formats that everyone can read is "an 
uphill struggle".  They seem unable to use "Save As ..." and they are 
suspicious 
of any other format.  Oddly it is only their default formats that have carried 
malware.  

To change the default formats in LibreOffice / OpenOffice go to 
Tools - Options - Load/Save - General 
to change the default ODF to the older 1.0/1.1.  Alternatively at the bottom of 
the same screen perhaps change the 2 drop-downs to save "Text Documents" to 
"Word 97/2000/Xp" by rolling back up the list 1 place.  For Spreadsheets and 
Presentations roll back up the list 2 places to avoid saving as templates.  

Regards from
Tom :)

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> From: Dennis E. Hamilton 
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Sent: Mon, 27 June, 2011 23:37:22
> Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] RTF support
> 
> It says "Are You Sure" for HTML too.  It is not that it has checked the  
>features you are using.  I believe it is a knee-jerk warning. (Something  that 
>Microsoft Office apparently set the precedent for.)
> 
>  -  Dennis
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: planas [mailto:jsloz...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Monday, June  27, 2011 15:13
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject:  Re: [libreoffice-users] RTF support
> 
> Tracey,
> 
> On Mon, 2011-06-27 at  11:15 -0700, tracey002 wrote:
> 
> > I had discovered that Open Office  Writer does NOT really support functional
> > RTF features (the ones that I  tried anyway).
> > When I posted issues to an OpenOffice Users Group, I was  re-directed to
> > Libre Office.
> > Can I help in some way?
> >  Please advise.
> > Thanks, Tracey
> > As an End User, my experience has  been to export (Documents and/or Data) in
> > simple HTML or RTF text format  for other End Users to use in their word
> > Processor or  Spreadsheet.
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> 
> Try  FILE>>SAVE AS and select RTF as the file type. You will get a  dialog
> box asking if you are sure. I do not know the which version of RTF  LO
> fully supports currently. The last version released is 1.9.1. 
> 
> My  understanding is this will be the last release of the RTF standard by
> MS.  Depending on what you other users have, their software may not
> support the  current version. 
> 
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[libreoffice-users] Feature request: Cross-references in complex documents

2011-06-28 Thread rdb

Hi all,

I'm not really sure how to go about lodging a feature request, so I'll just
disguise this as a question.

I'm trying to write a fairly long book with OpenOffice and in general things
go very smoothly. So far, I'm pretty happy that I ditched Word (very fickle
with long documents) for LibreOffice. The problems start when I have to
insert cross-references:

There is no obvious way to change how your cross-reference is formatted or
represented. For example, my sub-headings are like this:
1.
and the dot will show in my in-text cross-reference, whatever I'm trying to
do to make it go away.
There is no search option in 'Headings' or 'Numbered paragraphs'. Why would
you need that? Well, wait till you're writing something with 20 chapters,
200 section headings, and 2000 numbered example sentences.
The only option then is to scroll through all items in the pane on the
right-hand side. Problem is, you can't resize the pane and scrolling takes a
while with hundreds or thousands of items.
If I'm not mistaken, LibreOffice does not have an obvious way to search for
broken cross-reference links, unlike Word, which turns your link into a
bolded "Error! Blablalbalbla". That's a problem if you just changed all
headings in Chapter 20 and you want to check if all references to it in
Chapter 1 are still ok.

Does anybody have similar problems? Are there any plugins to give you more
versatile cross-ref options? Am I overlooking some clever tricks?

Best,
Rik

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature request: Cross-references in complex documents

2011-06-28 Thread Frieder Delor

Hi Ric
2011/6/28 rdb 

> Hi all,
>
>
> I'm not really sure how to go about lodging a feature request, so I'll just
> disguise this as a question.
>
>
> I'm trying to write a fairly long book with OpenOffice and in general
> things
> go very smoothly. So far, I'm pretty happy that I ditched Word (very fickle
> with long documents) for LibreOffice. The problems start when I have to
> insert cross-references:
>
>


 Hi

I know, that is not what you want to hear, but LibreOffice, OpenOffice or
Word are not the best tools to write a book with cross-references, numbered
paragraphs, and all thee other things you may need to write a book.

The best tool I know for this is *Lyx ( http://www.lyx.org/ )*

Quote fron: * http://www.lyx.org/
*

“LyX is a document processor that encourages an approach to writing based on
the *structure* of your documents
(WYSIWYM)
and not simply their appearance
(WYSIWYG).


LyX combines the power and flexibility of TeX
/LaTeX  with the ease of use of a
graphical interface. This results in world-class support for creation of
mathematical content (via a fully integrated equation editor) and structured
documents like academic articles, theses, and books. In addition, staples of
scientific authoring such as reference list and index creation come
standard. But you can also use LyX to create a letter or a novel or a
theatre play or film script. A broad array of ready, well-designed document
layouts are built in.

LyX is for people who want their writing to look great, right out of the
box. No more endless tinkering with formatting details, “finger painting”
font attributes or futzing around with page boundaries. You just write. On
screen, LyX looks like any word processor; its printed output — or richly
cross-referenced PDF, just as readily produced — looks like nothing else.

LyX is released under a Free Software/Open Source
license,
runs on Linux/Unix, Windows, and Mac OS X, and is available in several
languages . “


 End Quote


 I hope this answer was helpful to you


 Regards

Frieder

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature request: Cross-references in complex documents

2011-06-28 Thread David Nelson

Hi Rik,

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 1:42 PM, rdb  wrote:
> I'm not really sure how to go about lodging a feature request, so I'll just
> disguise this as a question.
>
> I'm trying to write a fairly long book with OpenOffice and in general things
> go very smoothly. So far, I'm pretty happy that I ditched Word (very fickle
> with long documents) for LibreOffice. The problems start when I have to
> insert cross-references:
>
>
> There is no obvious way to change how your cross-reference is formatted or
> represented. For example, my sub-headings are like this:
> 1.
>  and the dot will show in my in-text cross-reference, whatever I'm trying to
> do to make it go away.
> There is no search option in 'Headings' or 'Numbered paragraphs'. Why would
> you need that? Well, wait till you're writing something with 20 chapters,
> 200 section headings, and 2000 numbered example sentences.
> The only option then is to scroll through all items in the pane on the
> right-hand side. Problem is, you can't resize the pane and scrolling takes a
> while with hundreds or thousands of items.
> If I'm not mistaken, LibreOffice does not have an obvious way to search for
> broken cross-reference links, unlike Word, which turns your link into a
> bolded "Error! Blablalbalbla". That's a problem if you just changed all
> headings in Chapter 20 and you want to check if all references to it in
> Chapter 1 are still ok.
>
> Does anybody have similar problems? Are there any plugins to give you more
> versatile cross-ref options? Am I overlooking some clever tricks?

The LibreOffice docs team writes some long user guides. We use the
approach of one document per chapter, and then agglomerate all that
within a global document.

Maybe this would work for you?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: RTF support

2011-06-28 Thread Ernest Kurtz

'Lo :(
As one who uses only Writer on LO and OO, roughly on alternate days, never at 
the same time, I find LO to be less stable, crashing about every other time.  
OO crashes are rare, maybe one in ten use-days. 
But I keep hoping, as it appears there is more current work on LO.
BTW, I save all files in RTF. 
ernie kurtz 

On Jun 28, 2011, at 5:45 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

> Hi :)
> LibreOffice is more highly developed, it is developing faster and has a more 
> certain future.  Substantial clean-up of the code has made it about 30% 
> smaller 
> so it's faster to download and since it is more streamlined, hopefully it 
> runs a 
> bit faster.  
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: RTF support

2011-06-28 Thread Stefano Fraccaro


Hi Ernest,
in our company we don't have any crash at all with LibreOffice 
3.4.x .   How many pc have this behaviour? Which is the system 
configuration?


Best regards
Stefano



Il 28/06/2011 15.38, Ernest Kurtz ha scritto:

'Lo :(
As one who uses only Writer on LO and OO, roughly on alternate days, never at 
the same time, I find LO to be less stable, crashing about every other time.  
OO crashes are rare, maybe one in ten use-days.
But I keep hoping, as it appears there is more current work on LO.
BTW, I save all files in RTF.
ernie kurtz




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: RTF support

Hi
That doesn't sound pleasant :(  I don't use OpenOffice at all anymore.  
LibreOffice has not crashed on me at all.  I don't use it every day tho.  Which 
version do you use, the 3.4.0?  I stick with the 3.3.2 on Ubuntu still.
Regards from
Tom :)




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> Sent: Tue, 28 June, 2011 14:38:48
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: RTF support
> 
> 'Lo :(
> As one who uses only Writer on LO and OO, roughly on alternate days,  never 
> at 
>the same time, I find LO to be less stable, crashing about every other  time.  
>OO crashes are rare, maybe one in ten use-days. 
>
> But I keep  hoping, as it appears there is more current work on LO.
> BTW, I save all files  in RTF. 
> ernie kurtz 
> 
> On Jun 28, 2011, at 5:45 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:
> 
> > Hi :)
> > LibreOffice is more highly developed, it is  developing faster and has a 
> > more 
>
> > certain future.  Substantial  clean-up of the code has made it about 30% 
>smaller 
>
> > so it's faster to  download and since it is more streamlined, hopefully it 
>runs a 
>
> > bit  faster.  
> > 
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: RTF support

2011-06-28 Thread Davide Dozza

Il 28/06/2011 15:50, Stefano Fraccaro ha scritto:
> Hi Ernest,
> in our company we don't have any crash at all with LibreOffice 3.4.x
> .   How many pc have this behaviour? Which is the system configuration?
> 

3.4.x is a development version and it's not suggested for production
environment but just for early adopters.

http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-notes/

Davide


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[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and Microsoft Office files - MIME type problem

Hi,

I have looked for a solution to an issue I am seeing, but without any luck - 
hopefully someone has seen this before and can provide a workaround.

A client  is using LibreOffice on Windows XP PCs, running IE8.  They use LO to 
save in the Microsoft formats (.doc, .xls, etc) which is working fine.

However, when they try to upload one of those files to web servers, the MIME 
type of those files is always reported as 'application/octect-stream', rather 
than
the real mime type - IE can't figure out the type as it would if Office was 
installed.

This also affects files that weren't created by LO, such as ones that were sent 
via email, that were created in Microsoft Office.

Is there a way to register some type of LO handler with Windows so that the 
file types are properly recognized?

Thanks in advance,
Ian

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[libreoffice-users] Reduce the size of LibreOffice for headless use only

2011-06-28 Thread Petroy

Hi,

I'm planning to use LibreOffice in combination with JODConverter (or just
via command-line) to convert some ODT files that my Java application
generates to PDF. It would be great if the users didn't need to have
LibreOffice installed for this task, so I'd like to include it into my
application. But LibreOffice is a few hundred megabytes heavy.

Is there a way to reduce the size of LibreOffice? Maybe there are files the
program doesn't need when I plan to just use it in headless mode for
conversion tasks.

Regards,
Petroy

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: RTF support

2011-06-28 Thread Ernest Kurtz

Hi2--
I am using aMacBook3,1; Intel Core 2 Duo;  2.2 GHz;  L2 Cache:  4 MB;  Memory:4 
GB;  Bus Speed: 800 MHz;
LibreOffice 3.3.; OOO330m19 (Build:202); tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2
Thanks for the several quick comments. 
ernie kurtz

On Jun 28, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

> Hi
> That doesn't sound pleasant :(  I don't use OpenOffice at all anymore.  
> LibreOffice has not crashed on me at all.  I don't use it every day tho.  
> Which 
> version do you use, the 3.4.0?  I stick with the 3.3.2 on Ubuntu still.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
> 
> - Original Message 
>> From: Ernest Kurtz 
>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>> Sent: Tue, 28 June, 2011 14:38:48
>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: RTF support
>> 
>> 'Lo :(
>> As one who uses only Writer on LO and OO, roughly on alternate days,  never 
>> at 
>> the same time, I find LO to be less stable, crashing about every other  
>> time.  
>> OO crashes are rare, maybe one in ten use-days. 
>> 
>> But I keep  hoping, as it appears there is more current work on LO.
>> BTW, I save all files  in RTF. 
>> ernie kurtz 
>> 
>> On Jun 28, 2011, at 5:45 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi :)
>>> LibreOffice is more highly developed, it is  developing faster and has a 
>>> more 
>> 
>>> certain future.  Substantial  clean-up of the code has made it about 30% 
>> smaller 
>> 
>>> so it's faster to  download and since it is more streamlined, hopefully it 
>> runs a 
>> 
>>> bit  faster.  
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: RTF support

2011-06-28 Thread Steve Edmonds

Hi. I use LO also on a makbook pro, every day. Firstly 3.3.2 and now 3.4 
and I have not had a crash.


I wonder if it is the RTF file format. When does LO crash (what activity).
steve

On 29/06/11 5:28 AM, Ernest Kurtz wrote:

Hi2--
I am using aMacBook3,1; Intel Core 2 Duo;  2.2 GHz;  L2 Cache:  4 MB;  Memory:4 
GB;  Bus Speed: 800 MHz;
LibreOffice 3.3.; OOO330m19 (Build:202); tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2
Thanks for the several quick comments.
ernie kurtz

On Jun 28, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Tom Davies wrote:


Hi
That doesn't sound pleasant :(  I don't use OpenOffice at all anymore.
LibreOffice has not crashed on me at all.  I don't use it every day tho.  Which
version do you use, the 3.4.0?  I stick with the 3.3.2 on Ubuntu still.
Regards from
Tom :)

- Original Message 

From: Ernest Kurtz
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 28 June, 2011 14:38:48
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: RTF support

'Lo :(
As one who uses only Writer on LO and OO, roughly on alternate days,  never at
the same time, I find LO to be less stable, crashing about every other  time.
OO crashes are rare, maybe one in ten use-days.

But I keep  hoping, as it appears there is more current work on LO.
BTW, I save all files  in RTF.
ernie kurtz

On Jun 28, 2011, at 5:45 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:


Hi :)
LibreOffice is more highly developed, it is  developing faster and has a more
certain future.  Substantial  clean-up of the code has made it about 30%

smaller


so it's faster to  download and since it is more streamlined, hopefully it

runs a


bit  faster.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: RTF support

2011-06-28 Thread Ernest Kurtz

Steve:
Several things can trigger a crash, but especially importing a file into the 
document on which I am working.  Size seems to make no difference.
ek

On Jun 28, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:

> Hi. I use LO also on a makbook pro, every day. Firstly 3.3.2 and now 3.4 and 
> I have not had a crash.
> 
> I wonder if it is the RTF file format. When does LO crash (what activity).
> steve
> 
> On 29/06/11 5:28 AM, Ernest Kurtz wrote:
>> Hi2--
>> I am using aMacBook3,1; Intel Core 2 Duo;  2.2 GHz;  L2 Cache:   4 MB;  
>> Memory:4 GB;  Bus Speed: 800 MHz;
>> LibreOffice 3.3.; OOO330m19 (Build:202); tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2
>> Thanks for the several quick comments.
>> ernie kurtz
>> 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: RTF support

2011-06-28 Thread Steve Edmonds

Hi Ernest. On my office linux machine with LO 3.3.2, I get a crash on 
importing some older lotus files. Possibly it is the RTF format (or 
rather the import filter). Can you try using the odt format for a day to 
see if crashing stops and then may be a bug can be filed if the RTF 
import is the culprit.

steve

On 29/06/11 6:10 AM, Ernest Kurtz wrote:

Steve:
Several things can trigger a crash, but especially importing a file into the 
document on which I am working.  Size seems to make no difference.
ek

On Jun 28, 2011, at 1:49 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:


Hi. I use LO also on a makbook pro, every day. Firstly 3.3.2 and now 3.4 and I 
have not had a crash.

I wonder if it is the RTF file format. When does LO crash (what activity).
steve

On 29/06/11 5:28 AM, Ernest Kurtz wrote:

Hi2--
I am using aMacBook3,1; Intel Core 2 Duo;  2.2 GHz;  L2 Cache:  4 MB;  Memory:4 
GB;  Bus Speed: 800 MHz;
LibreOffice 3.3.; OOO330m19 (Build:202); tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2
Thanks for the several quick comments.
ernie kurtz





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: RTF support

2011-06-28 Thread Johnny Rosenberg

2011/6/28 Ernest Kurtz :
> 'Lo :(
> As one who uses only Writer on LO and OO, roughly on alternate days, never at 
> the same time, I find LO to be less stable, crashing about every other time.  
> OO crashes are rare, maybe one in ten use-days.
> But I keep hoping, as it appears there is more current work on LO.
> BTW, I save all files in RTF.

I did that too maybe 10 or 15 years ago, which I later regretted very
much. Fortunately I need very few (none, I think) of those old
documents today. Since then I always make sure no RTF files comes near
me ever.

Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ


> ernie kurtz
>
> On Jun 28, 2011, at 5:45 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
>
>> Hi :)
>> LibreOffice is more highly developed, it is developing faster and has a more
>> certain future.  Substantial clean-up of the code has made it about 30% 
>> smaller
>> so it's faster to download and since it is more streamlined, hopefully it 
>> runs a
>> bit faster.
>>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Command line (convert) parameter(s)

2011-06-28 Thread leif

Den 24-06-2011 23:31, NoOp skrev:
>
>   -convert-to pdf:writer_pdf_Export -outdir /home/user *.doc


*Hi,
For some reason I coulnd't make the *.doc to work. Instead I managed to
create a batch file:

for %%f in (*.odt) do C:\LibO\program\soffice -invisible -convert-to pdf
-outdir Output/ "%%f"

Cheers,
Leif Lodahl

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[libreoffice-users] Re: ODF format validity

2011-06-28 Thread Michael Meeks

Hi Milos,

Milos Sramek  gmail.com> writes:
> I want to point to a problem  regarding validity of the ODF documents
> produced by LO.

Your report ended up as a bug report here:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37390 and was fixed, the fix will
be in 3.4.1 out soon.

Thanks.


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[libreoffice-users] Random crashes with Libre Office Writer (strace included)

2011-06-28 Thread Eric


Hi,

I've got one issue with LibreOffice 3.3.2 on Ubuntu 11.04 (LibreOffice 3.3.2 OOO330m19 (Build:202) tag 
libreoffice-3.3.2.2, Ubuntu package 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5).


I'm trying to edit a docx file, but writer crashes randomly, so I really can't work with. It may be relative to the 
review function.


I've made a strace to help more advanced users than me to figure out what's the 
problem.

How to fix it? :)

Regards,

Eric


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[libreoffice-users] Random crashes with Libre Office Writer (strace included)

2011-06-28 Thread Eric


Hi,

I've got one issue with LibreOffice 3.3.2 on Ubuntu 11.04 (LibreOffice 3.3.2 OOO330m19 (Build:202) tag 
libreoffice-3.3.2.2, Ubuntu package 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5).


I'm trying to edit a docx file, but writer crashes randomly, so I really can't work with. It may be relative to the 
review function.


I've made a strace to help more advanced users than me to figure out what's the 
problem.

How to fix it? :)

Regards,

Eric


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: RTF support

2011-06-28 Thread Nuno J. Silva

On 2011-06-28, Ernest Kurtz wrote:
> On Jun 28, 2011, at 5:45 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
>
>> Hi :)
>> LibreOffice is more highly developed, it is developing faster and has a more 
>> certain future.  Substantial clean-up of the code has made it about 30% 
>> smaller 
>> so it's faster to download and since it is more streamlined, hopefully it 
>> runs a 
>> bit faster.  
>> 
> As one who uses only Writer on LO and OO, roughly on alternate days,
> never at the same time, I find LO to be less stable, crashing about
> every other time.  OO crashes are rare, maybe one in ten use-days.
> But I keep hoping, as it appears there is more current work on LO.

It is expectable that LibO is more crash-prone: it has new features that
aren't as deeply tested as the rest of the code.

Also, the code cleanup may cause issues itself.

Keep your hope, more work means even if LibO has new issues, they'll be
fixed. 

The best you can do to help that happen without looking at the code is
(attempt to) indentify what triggers each crash and fill a bug report if
there's none yet.

If it's your first time filling a bug report, this may help:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport

("identify" means not filling "Writer crashed here!!!" reports without
some more information, like:
 - step-by-step instructions of what to do to raise the crash
 - stack trace
 - some office document (like a RTF file!) that causes a crash

That is, something that makes it easier to chase the problem.)

> BTW, I save all files in RTF. 

Please make sure you always keep the "main work copy" in OpenDocument
Format. Some other formats aren't completely implemented, may have some
issues. 

Dunno about RTF, but this is the case with Microsoft's Office Open XML.

Also, even if the format is 100% supported, it may not support some ODF
feature used by LibO.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: RTF support

2011-06-28 Thread Nuno J. Silva

On 2011-06-28, Tom Davies wrote:

> tracey002  wrote:
>
>> Is Libre Office the same/identical application as Open Office or are  they
>> separate projects?
>> The names and icons of the applications look  identical.
>> 
>> If not, can you briefly explain the difference.
>
> LibreOffice is more highly developed, it is developing faster and has a more 
> certain future.  Substantial clean-up of the code has made it about 30% 
> smaller 
> so it's faster to download and since it is more streamlined, hopefully it 
> runs a 
> bit faster.  

LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org separate projects.

Please note that some GNU/Linux distros distributed (distribute?)
OpenOffice.org with the Go-oo patches. Even if branded OpenOffice.org,
this is closer to LibreOffice than to OpenOffice.org.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Random crashes with Libre Office Writer (strace included)

2011-06-28 Thread Nuno J. Silva

On 2011-06-28, Eric wrote:

> I've got one issue with LibreOffice 3.3.2 on Ubuntu 11.04 (LibreOffice
> 3.3.2 OOO330m19 (Build:202) tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2, Ubuntu package
> 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5).
>
> I'm trying to edit a docx file, but writer crashes randomly, so I
> really can't work with. It may be relative to the review function.

So that's the *only* file which causes a crash?

> I've made a strace to help more advanced users than me to figure out
> what's the problem.

You can open a bug and attach the strace there, and also the file if
Writer does not crash with other files (and if you can share the file
with the world).

See http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport

> How to fix it? :)

The way to fix it would be inspecting the strace to guess why does it
happen, and look at the code for obvious problems. Two hours later, you
probably start looking for not-so-obvious problems, and so on, until you
find the problem.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Random crashes with Libre Office Writer (strace included)

Eric

On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 20:00 +0200, Eric wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I've got one issue with LibreOffice 3.3.2 on Ubuntu 11.04 (LibreOffice 3.3.2 
> OOO330m19 (Build:202) tag 
> libreoffice-3.3.2.2, Ubuntu package 1:3.3.2-1ubuntu5).
> 
> I'm trying to edit a docx file, but writer crashes randomly, so I really 
> can't work with. It may be relative to the 
> review function.
> 
> I've made a strace to help more advanced users than me to figure out what's 
> the problem.
> 
> How to fix it? :)
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Eric
> 
> 

Does this document require any .docx features? If not, try opening and
saving as .doc or .odt. Close and open the just created file.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: RTF support

Hi

On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 15:55 +0200, Davide Dozza wrote:

> Il 28/06/2011 15:50, Stefano Fraccaro ha scritto:
> > Hi Ernest,
> > in our company we don't have any crash at all with LibreOffice 3.4.x
> > .   How many pc have this behaviour? Which is the system configuration?
> > 
> 
> 3.4.x is a development version and it's not suggested for production
> environment but just for early adopters.
> 
> http://www.libreoffice.org/download/release-notes/
> 
> Davide

On LO crashing, 3.4.0 on Windows 7 for work has not crashed that I
remember and 3.3.2 on Pinguy/Ubuntu occasionally has trouble with
converting MSO 2007/2010 formats.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Reduce the size of LibreOffice for headless use only

Petroy,

On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 08:50 -0700, Petroy wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm planning to use LibreOffice in combination with JODConverter (or just
> via command-line) to convert some ODT files that my Java application
> generates to PDF. It would be great if the users didn't need to have
> LibreOffice installed for this task, so I'd like to include it into my
> application. But LibreOffice is a few hundred megabytes heavy.
> 
> Is there a way to reduce the size of LibreOffice? Maybe there are files the
> program doesn't need when I plan to just use it in headless mode for
> conversion tasks.
> 
> Regards,
> Petroy
> 
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> Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> 

The developers are doing an ongoing code clean up to reduce the size of
the download and install.  Currently LO (and OOo) is an integrated
program with all the basic functionality built in.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and Microsoft Office files - MIME type problem

Ian,

On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 10:01 -0400, Ian Long wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have looked for a solution to an issue I am seeing, but without any luck - 
> hopefully someone has seen this before and can provide a workaround.
> 
> A client  is using LibreOffice on Windows XP PCs, running IE8.  They use LO 
> to save in the Microsoft formats (.doc, .xls, etc) which is working fine.
> 
> However, when they try to upload one of those files to web servers, the MIME 
> type of those files is always reported as 'application/octect-stream', rather 
> than
> the real mime type - IE can't figure out the type as it would if Office was 
> installed.
> 
> This also affects files that weren't created by LO, such as ones that were 
> sent via email, that were created in Microsoft Office.
> 
> Is there a way to register some type of LO handler with Windows so that the 
> file types are properly recognized?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Ian
> 

If the MSO document is uploaded directly to the server without being
opened in LO does your client have the same problem? I just want to
clarify if it is a problem with LO or possibly somewhere else. 

Do other browsers report the same problem when used or access the page?

Also, what version of LO are they using?

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RE: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and Microsoft Office files - MIME type problem

2011-06-28 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton

This is a common problem with web servers.  

Browsers don't set the MIME type, they receive it in the response from the Web 
Server, along with the resource itself.  It is likely that the Web server is 
not set up to recognize that various file-name extensions correspond to 
specific MIME types and so a default is being used.  application/octet-stream 
is the safest default.

There's a secondary problem with regard to being able to *open* LibreOffice 
documents that are downloaded by a browser.  That has to do with associating 
the MIME type with an application on the receiving computer.  But first, you 
need the correct MIME type from the server.

The only way around, depending on how the file is downloaded, is to store it 
without opening it and then renaming it so it can be opened properly.  Not 
something your average user will deal with (especially if they don't have file 
exensions being show in Windows Explorer).

Most web servers have a way to be told what MIME type to attribute to 
particular filename extensions.  Someone needs to arrange with an administrator 
of the web site to set that up.

 - Dennis

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Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 15:11
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and Microsoft Office files - MIME 
type problem

Ian,

On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 10:01 -0400, Ian Long wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have looked for a solution to an issue I am seeing, but without any luck - 
> hopefully someone has seen this before and can provide a workaround.
> 
> A client  is using LibreOffice on Windows XP PCs, running IE8.  They use LO 
> to save in the Microsoft formats (.doc, .xls, etc) which is working fine.
> 
> However, when they try to upload one of those files to web servers, the MIME 
> type of those files is always reported as 'application/octect-stream', rather 
> than
> the real mime type - IE can't figure out the type as it would if Office was 
> installed.
> 
> This also affects files that weren't created by LO, such as ones that were 
> sent via email, that were created in Microsoft Office.
> 
> Is there a way to register some type of LO handler with Windows so that the 
> file types are properly recognized?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Ian
> 

If the MSO document is uploaded directly to the server without being
opened in LO does your client have the same problem? I just want to
clarify if it is a problem with LO or possibly somewhere else. 

Do other browsers report the same problem when used or access the page?

Also, what version of LO are they using?

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RE: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and Microsoft Office files - MIME type problem

2011-06-28 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton

Oh wait, these are being uploaded as .doc, .xls, and .ppt but those apps aren't 
on the machine where the downloading is happening.  Is that the case?

Hmm.  Sounds like what's missing is some sort of browser helper.  And 
LibreOffice is registered as the application that opens .doc, .xls, and .ppt 
files?  

Still, it would be useful to see if this improves if the MIME types for those 
Microsoft formats were delivered by the server.  It may be that Microsoft 
Office compensates for this problem when it is installed.  We'll know that if 
getting the server to use the correct MIME types doesn't help.

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 16:33
To: 'users@global.libreoffice.org'
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and Microsoft Office files - MIME 
type problem

This is a common problem with web servers.  

Browsers don't set the MIME type, they receive it in the response from the Web 
Server, along with the resource itself.  It is likely that the Web server is 
not set up to recognize that various file-name extensions correspond to 
specific MIME types and so a default is being used.  application/octet-stream 
is the safest default.

There's a secondary problem with regard to being able to *open* LibreOffice 
documents that are downloaded by a browser.  That has to do with associating 
the MIME type with an application on the receiving computer.  But first, you 
need the correct MIME type from the server.

The only way around, depending on how the file is downloaded, is to store it 
without opening it and then renaming it so it can be opened properly.  Not 
something your average user will deal with (especially if they don't have file 
exensions being show in Windows Explorer).

Most web servers have a way to be told what MIME type to attribute to 
particular filename extensions.  Someone needs to arrange with an administrator 
of the web site to set that up.

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: planas [mailto:jsloz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 15:11
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and Microsoft Office files - MIME 
type problem

Ian,

On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 10:01 -0400, Ian Long wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have looked for a solution to an issue I am seeing, but without any luck - 
> hopefully someone has seen this before and can provide a workaround.
> 
> A client  is using LibreOffice on Windows XP PCs, running IE8.  They use LO 
> to save in the Microsoft formats (.doc, .xls, etc) which is working fine.
> 
> However, when they try to upload one of those files to web servers, the MIME 
> type of those files is always reported as 'application/octect-stream', rather 
> than
> the real mime type - IE can't figure out the type as it would if Office was 
> installed.
> 
> This also affects files that weren't created by LO, such as ones that were 
> sent via email, that were created in Microsoft Office.
> 
> Is there a way to register some type of LO handler with Windows so that the 
> file types are properly recognized?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Ian
> 

If the MSO document is uploaded directly to the server without being
opened in LO does your client have the same problem? I just want to
clarify if it is a problem with LO or possibly somewhere else. 

Do other browsers report the same problem when used or access the page?

Also, what version of LO are they using?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and Microsoft Office files - MIME type problem

Yes, that's correct, the files are being uploaded as .doc, .xls, etc but 
Microsoft Office isn't installed on the machines that are uploading the files, 
just LibreOffice.

Internet Explorer can't figure out the MIME type to send to the server when 
submitting the form, so it just sends application/octet-stream.

If Office is installed on a machine that uploads the same files, IE does send 
the correct MIME type.

I guess there isn't an option in LibreOffice to associate the .doc, .xls MIME 
types as MS Office does?

Cheers,
Ian

On 2011-06-28, at 7:37 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

> Oh wait, these are being uploaded as .doc, .xls, and .ppt but those apps 
> aren't on the machine where the downloading is happening.  Is that the case?
> 
> Hmm.  Sounds like what's missing is some sort of browser helper.  And 
> LibreOffice is registered as the application that opens .doc, .xls, and .ppt 
> files?  
> 
> Still, it would be useful to see if this improves if the MIME types for those 
> Microsoft formats were delivered by the server.  It may be that Microsoft 
> Office compensates for this problem when it is installed.  We'll know that if 
> getting the server to use the correct MIME types doesn't help.
> 
> - Dennis
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 16:33
> To: 'users@global.libreoffice.org'
> Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and Microsoft Office files - 
> MIME type problem
> 
> This is a common problem with web servers.  
> 
> Browsers don't set the MIME type, they receive it in the response from the 
> Web Server, along with the resource itself.  It is likely that the Web server 
> is not set up to recognize that various file-name extensions correspond to 
> specific MIME types and so a default is being used.  application/octet-stream 
> is the safest default.
> 
> There's a secondary problem with regard to being able to *open* LibreOffice 
> documents that are downloaded by a browser.  That has to do with associating 
> the MIME type with an application on the receiving computer.  But first, you 
> need the correct MIME type from the server.
> 
> The only way around, depending on how the file is downloaded, is to store it 
> without opening it and then renaming it so it can be opened properly.  Not 
> something your average user will deal with (especially if they don't have 
> file exensions being show in Windows Explorer).
> 
> Most web servers have a way to be told what MIME type to attribute to 
> particular filename extensions.  Someone needs to arrange with an 
> administrator of the web site to set that up.
> 
> - Dennis
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: planas [mailto:jsloz...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 15:11
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and Microsoft Office files - 
> MIME type problem
> 
> Ian,
> 
> On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 10:01 -0400, Ian Long wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have looked for a solution to an issue I am seeing, but without any luck - 
>> hopefully someone has seen this before and can provide a workaround.
>> 
>> A client  is using LibreOffice on Windows XP PCs, running IE8.  They use LO 
>> to save in the Microsoft formats (.doc, .xls, etc) which is working fine.
>> 
>> However, when they try to upload one of those files to web servers, the MIME 
>> type of those files is always reported as 'application/octect-stream', 
>> rather than
>> the real mime type - IE can't figure out the type as it would if Office was 
>> installed.
>> 
>> This also affects files that weren't created by LO, such as ones that were 
>> sent via email, that were created in Microsoft Office.
>> 
>> Is there a way to register some type of LO handler with Windows so that the 
>> file types are properly recognized?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Ian
>> 
> 
> If the MSO document is uploaded directly to the server without being
> opened in LO does your client have the same problem? I just want to
> clarify if it is a problem with LO or possibly somewhere else. 
> 
> Do other browsers report the same problem when used or access the page?
> 
> Also, what version of LO are they using?
> 
> -- 
> Jay Lozier
> jsloz...@gmail.com
> 
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RE: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and Microsoft Office files - MIME type problem

2011-06-28 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton

Still clarifying my understanding:

The files are being uploaded to a server via browser uploading?

Hmm.  Somewhere back around Windows 98 I remember MIME-type associations in the 
File Associations dialog, but I haven't seen them in any recent systems.

So the question is, how can one control the MIME type of a file that is 
uploaded.

I rummaged around on the Internet and I couldn't find much.  This may be 
helpful:



There's more here specifically on how IE determines the MIME type for an upload:
< http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms775147(v=VS.85).aspx>

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Ian Long [mailto:ian.l...@opterus.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 16:44
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and Microsoft Office files - MIME 
type problem

Yes, that's correct, the files are being uploaded as .doc, .xls, etc but 
Microsoft Office isn't installed on the machines that are uploading the files, 
just LibreOffice.

Internet Explorer can't figure out the MIME type to send to the server when 
submitting the form, so it just sends application/octet-stream.

If Office is installed on a machine that uploads the same files, IE does send 
the correct MIME type.

I guess there isn't an option in LibreOffice to associate the .doc, .xls MIME 
types as MS Office does?

Cheers,
Ian

On 2011-06-28, at 7:37 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

> Oh wait, these are being uploaded as .doc, .xls, and .ppt but those apps 
> aren't on the machine where the downloading is happening.  Is that the case?
> 
> Hmm.  Sounds like what's missing is some sort of browser helper.  And 
> LibreOffice is registered as the application that opens .doc, .xls, and .ppt 
> files?  
> 
> Still, it would be useful to see if this improves if the MIME types for those 
> Microsoft formats were delivered by the server.  It may be that Microsoft 
> Office compensates for this problem when it is installed.  We'll know that if 
> getting the server to use the correct MIME types doesn't help.
> 
> - Dennis
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 16:33
> To: 'users@global.libreoffice.org'
> Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and Microsoft Office files - 
> MIME type problem
> 
> This is a common problem with web servers.  
> 
> Browsers don't set the MIME type, they receive it in the response from the 
> Web Server, along with the resource itself.  It is likely that the Web server 
> is not set up to recognize that various file-name extensions correspond to 
> specific MIME types and so a default is being used.  application/octet-stream 
> is the safest default.
> 
> There's a secondary problem with regard to being able to *open* LibreOffice 
> documents that are downloaded by a browser.  That has to do with associating 
> the MIME type with an application on the receiving computer.  But first, you 
> need the correct MIME type from the server.
> 
> The only way around, depending on how the file is downloaded, is to store it 
> without opening it and then renaming it so it can be opened properly.  Not 
> something your average user will deal with (especially if they don't have 
> file exensions being show in Windows Explorer).
> 
> Most web servers have a way to be told what MIME type to attribute to 
> particular filename extensions.  Someone needs to arrange with an 
> administrator of the web site to set that up.
> 
> - Dennis
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: planas [mailto:jsloz...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 15:11
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and Microsoft Office files - 
> MIME type problem
> 
> Ian,
> 
> On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 10:01 -0400, Ian Long wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have looked for a solution to an issue I am seeing, but without any luck - 
>> hopefully someone has seen this before and can provide a workaround.
>> 
>> A client  is using LibreOffice on Windows XP PCs, running IE8.  They use LO 
>> to save in the Microsoft formats (.doc, .xls, etc) which is working fine.
>> 
>> However, when they try to upload one of those files to web servers, the MIME 
>> type of those files is always reported as 'application/octect-stream', 
>> rather than
>> the real mime type - IE can't figure out the type as it would if Office was 
>> installed.
>> 
>> This also affects files that weren't created by LO, such as ones that were 
>> sent via email, that were created in Microsoft Office.
>> 
>> Is there a way to register some type of LO handler with Windows so that the 
>> file types are properly recognized?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Ian
>> 
> 
> If the MSO document is uploaded directly to the server without being
> opened in LO does your client have the same problem? I just want to
> clarify if it is a problem with LO or possibly somewhere else. 
> 
> Do other bro

Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature request: Cross-references in complex documents

2011-06-28 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak


On 06/28/2011 06:42 AM, rdb wrote:

I'm trying to write a fairly long book with OpenOffice and in general things
go very smoothly.


Curious what you consider long? I have stuff over 500 pages as a single 
document.



There is no obvious way to change how your cross-reference is formatted or
represented. For example, my sub-headings are like this:
1.
  and the dot will show in my in-text cross-reference, whatever I'm trying to
do to make it go away.


I created my own numbering style for chapters and one for appendixes so 
that they will number as I desire (ie, "1.2. Hello" for a regular 
chapter and "Appendix A. Big Hello" and "A.2 Hello" for an appendix).


I believe that you can separately insert the number (which will contain 
any extra text such as periods), the reference, or the number and 
reference.


If you do NOT want the trailing period, then reference the section as 
"chapter" and it will leave off the trailing stuff.



There is no search option in 'Headings' or 'Numbered paragraphs'. Why would
you need that? Well, wait till you're writing something with 20 chapters,
200 section headings, and 2000 numbered example sentences.


You are correct.


If I'm not mistaken, LibreOffice does not have an obvious way to search for
broken cross-reference links, unlike Word, which turns your link into a
bolded "Error! Blablalbalbla". That's a problem if you just changed all
headings in Chapter 20 and you want to check if all references to it in
Chapter 1 are still ok.


H. Never thought about it. Could probably write a macro to do it. 
Seems like a good idea.



Am I overlooking some clever tricks?

Probably!  :-)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and Microsoft Office files - MIME type problem

Yes, exactly.

Office must do something special for the MIME-type associations, I was hoping 
LibreOffice did something similar.

Cheers,
Ian

On 2011-06-28, at 8:20 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

> Still clarifying my understanding:
> 
> The files are being uploaded to a server via browser uploading?
> 
> Hmm.  Somewhere back around Windows 98 I remember MIME-type associations in 
> the File Associations dialog, but I haven't seen them in any recent systems.
> 
> So the question is, how can one control the MIME type of a file that is 
> uploaded.
> 
> I rummaged around on the Internet and I couldn't find much.  This may be 
> helpful:
> 
> 
> 
> There's more here specifically on how IE determines the MIME type for an 
> upload:
> < http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms775147(v=VS.85).aspx>
> 
> - Dennis
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Long [mailto:ian.l...@opterus.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 16:44
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and Microsoft Office files - 
> MIME type problem
> 
> Yes, that's correct, the files are being uploaded as .doc, .xls, etc but 
> Microsoft Office isn't installed on the machines that are uploading the 
> files, just LibreOffice.
> 
> Internet Explorer can't figure out the MIME type to send to the server when 
> submitting the form, so it just sends application/octet-stream.
> 
> If Office is installed on a machine that uploads the same files, IE does send 
> the correct MIME type.
> 
> I guess there isn't an option in LibreOffice to associate the .doc, .xls MIME 
> types as MS Office does?
> 
> Cheers,
> Ian
> 
> On 2011-06-28, at 7:37 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> 
>> Oh wait, these are being uploaded as .doc, .xls, and .ppt but those apps 
>> aren't on the machine where the downloading is happening.  Is that the case?
>> 
>> Hmm.  Sounds like what's missing is some sort of browser helper.  And 
>> LibreOffice is registered as the application that opens .doc, .xls, and .ppt 
>> files?  
>> 
>> Still, it would be useful to see if this improves if the MIME types for 
>> those Microsoft formats were delivered by the server.  It may be that 
>> Microsoft Office compensates for this problem when it is installed.  We'll 
>> know that if getting the server to use the correct MIME types doesn't help.
>> 
>> - Dennis
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 16:33
>> To: 'users@global.libreoffice.org'
>> Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and Microsoft Office files - 
>> MIME type problem
>> 
>> This is a common problem with web servers.  
>> 
>> Browsers don't set the MIME type, they receive it in the response from the 
>> Web Server, along with the resource itself.  It is likely that the Web 
>> server is not set up to recognize that various file-name extensions 
>> correspond to specific MIME types and so a default is being used.  
>> application/octet-stream is the safest default.
>> 
>> There's a secondary problem with regard to being able to *open* LibreOffice 
>> documents that are downloaded by a browser.  That has to do with associating 
>> the MIME type with an application on the receiving computer.  But first, you 
>> need the correct MIME type from the server.
>> 
>> The only way around, depending on how the file is downloaded, is to store it 
>> without opening it and then renaming it so it can be opened properly.  Not 
>> something your average user will deal with (especially if they don't have 
>> file exensions being show in Windows Explorer).
>> 
>> Most web servers have a way to be told what MIME type to attribute to 
>> particular filename extensions.  Someone needs to arrange with an 
>> administrator of the web site to set that up.
>> 
>> - Dennis
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: planas [mailto:jsloz...@gmail.com] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 15:11
>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and Microsoft Office files - 
>> MIME type problem
>> 
>> Ian,
>> 
>> On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 10:01 -0400, Ian Long wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I have looked for a solution to an issue I am seeing, but without any luck 
>>> - hopefully someone has seen this before and can provide a workaround.
>>> 
>>> A client  is using LibreOffice on Windows XP PCs, running IE8.  They use LO 
>>> to save in the Microsoft formats (.doc, .xls, etc) which is working fine.
>>> 
>>> However, when they try to upload one of those files to web servers, the 
>>> MIME type of those files is always reported as 'application/octect-stream', 
>>> rather than
>>> the real mime type - IE can't figure out the type as it would if Office was 
>>> installed.
>>> 
>>> This also affects files that weren't created by LO, such as ones that were 
>>> sent via email, that were created in Microsoft Office.
>>> 
>>> Is there a way t

[libreoffice-users] Re: Random crashes with Libre Office Writer (strace included)

2011-06-28 Thread Eric

Hi Nuno,

No it's not the only file which causes a crash,
and as I can't see my attached strace, i've posted it here:
http://dl.free.fr/o9kL0sy6V
I hope it will help you, its reading is not obvious at all for me :)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice and Microsoft Office files - MIME type problem