[libreoffice-users] Re: There was a problem connecting to the server servername

2011-08-23 Thread Tom
Hi :)
Congrats on fixing it and thanks for letting us know how you did that :) 
Hopefully if someone has a similar weird problem we might find this thread
in the archives.  The Documentation Team keep lokoing for people with Mac
experience that could expand on the small table at the beginning of guides
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation
There might need to be an additional chapter or separate guide at some
point.
Regards from
Tom :)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Ipad

2011-08-23 Thread Harold Fuchs


Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote in message 
news:1314088522.19406.yahoomai...@web24103.mail.ird.yahoo.com...

Hi :)
It might be good for reviewing documents on the train or small ad-hoc 
meetings
in restaurants and maybe doing a little light editing.  I think reviewing 
in

awkward places is where it would really score.


Sadly LibreOffice is not yet ready for mobile devices.  The closest is the
Portable Apps thing where you can install to usb-stick and then use on 
other

people's desktops.


Windows only, of course :-(

Also Google-docs complements LibreOffice and prefers the

same native format too.


snip


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[libreoffice-users] Re: How do I delete unwanted Extensions?

2011-08-23 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 22/08/11 20:10, Tom Davies a écrit :

Hi Tom,

 Hi :)
 I think there are normally choices during install and it's possible to modify 
 things after install too.  I was surprised to hear those choices are not 
 available on Macs but i guess that is something that will get worked on one 
 day.
 Regards from
 Tom :)


No, it will probably not get worked on as it is perceived by those who
build the Mac versions of LibreOffice that it would not correspond to
the Mac way of installing software.

You get a DMG file, this is a self-contained disk image which when you
mount it (e.g. by double-click), expands to present a folder window
containing the application to install, some short documentation (help,
readme, etc) and a symbolic link to the usual installation folder on
Mac, i.e. Applications. This is traditionally one of the two main ways
of installing Mac apps using a graphical interface.

The other way is to use the pkg format, optionally encapsulated in a
DMG, (e.g. used by NeoOffice, but also Apple for some packages), which
does often have a series of dialogues allowing the user to indicate
which disk it would like to install the software to, accept the licence
conditions, and optionally select or deselect additional elements to be
installed (or not).


Upon installation, an entry entitled LibreOffice is created in the
Applications folder, and when the app is launched for the first time by
a user, a LibreOffice folder is also created in the users /Application
Support folder.

Additional language packs for LibreOffice are installed in a slightly
different way, as they use AppleScript to copy the files over to the
LibreOffice folder. In this case, the language packs are provided as a
DMG, which open when mounted to provide an *.app (another packaged
installation format), which is essentially an AppleScript wrapper around
a bundle of files, which presents a rudimentary dialog for selecting the
path for their installation.


Alex


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[libreoffice-users] Compatibility problems between LO Calc and EXCEL 2007 and 2010 (XLSX)

2011-08-23 Thread Stanislav Franěk
Hi,

 

I have several problems with saving and reading some documents saved with LO
3.4 Calc (XLSX file) and opening with Excel 2007/2010 and vice versa. How I
can proceed to resolve this problems (Where I can upload problematic files
with detail desription)?

 

Thanks,

 

Stanislav Franěk

 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Re: Ipad

2011-08-23 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 08/23/2011 05:35 AM, Harold Fuchs wrote:


Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote in message 
news:1314088522.19406.yahoomai...@web24103.mail.ird.yahoo.com...

Hi :)
It might be good for reviewing documents on the train or small ad-hoc 
meetings
in restaurants and maybe doing a little light editing.  I think 
reviewing in

awkward places is where it would really score.


Sadly LibreOffice is not yet ready for mobile devices.  The closest 
is the
Portable Apps thing where you can install to usb-stick and then use 
on other

people's desktops.


Windows only, of course :-(

Also Google-docs complements LibreOffice and prefers the

same native format too.


snip
Still, it would be nice to get a version of LO that works on Google's 
Android, or iPad's OS.


There are many experts out there stating that the tablet will be 
death of the PC market.  Until you can use it to print, scan, and all 
those other applications that you need the computing power and the 
ability to attached printers/scanners/etc., there will be a PC.  Also, 
until these tablets can have RAM in the 4GB range and storage in the 
1-3TB range, there will still be PCs.


But, people will still need a good office package for their tablets.  
LO's portable version is great for Windows based systems, but it would 
be useful if someone would look into what it would take to make an 
Android OS version of LO.  That is a fast growing market that should be 
considered for a future market of LO.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Compatibility problems between LO Calc and EXCEL 2007 and 2010 (XLSX)

2011-08-23 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Can you use the older format, .xls instead?  The .xlsX is a bit quirky but the 
xls is supported by a lot of different products from different organisations 
now.
Regards from
Tom :)





From: Stanislav Franěk fra...@viktorin.cz
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 23 August, 2011 11:34:51
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Compatibility problems between LO Calc and EXCEL 
2007 and 2010 (XLSX)

Hi,



I have several problems with saving and reading some documents saved with LO
3.4 Calc (XLSX file) and opening with Excel 2007/2010 and vice versa. How I
can proceed to resolve this problems (Where I can upload problematic files
with detail desription)?



Thanks,



Stanislav Franěk




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Compatibility problems between LO Calc and EXCEL 2007 and 2010 (XLSX)

2011-08-23 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

On 08/23/2011 06:34 AM, Stanislav Franěk wrote:

Hi,



I have several problems with saving and reading some documents saved with LO
3.4 Calc (XLSX file) and opening with Excel 2007/2010 and vice versa. How I
can proceed to resolve this problems (Where I can upload problematic files
with detail desription)?



Thanks,



Stanislav Franěk



Which version of 3.4 are you using?  3.4.0, 3.4.1, 3.4.2?  It would help 
to know which one you are using and which OS you are using as well.


Any reason that you cannot save these files in .xls instead of .xlsx?  I 
know that Microsoft wants .xlsx as the default format, but .xls is 
better in my opinion to use.  Every MS format ending in an x should 
be avoided.  Sure, the newest versions of LibreOffice reads and writes 
these x formats, but not perfectly.  So see if you can use the non x 
formats.


This will, at least, solve part of the problem until you find out what 
is causing your original issues.






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RE: [libreoffice-users] Compatibility problems between LO Calc and EXCEL 2007 and 2010 (XLSX)

2011-08-23 Thread Stanislav Franěk
We have mix of Computers with various versions of MS Office (2007 and 2010)
and LO (3.4.2) in our company installed. Now I make some steps, which
eliminate using mix MS Office and LO upon one shared document in workgroup.
So my offer to participate in debugging XML filters on LO is more guided by
own interests than actual company needs
I know of cource  about option of using XLS file format instead of XLSX
:-)
We are using LO 3.4.2. on Win XP and Win 7, x86 and x64 variants. Problems
not depend on that however.
So, is any interest in inspecting these files in LO developers comunity?
Or is this mailing list wrong place for that type of problems?




-Original Message-
From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
[mailto:webmas...@krackedpress.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:48 PM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Compatibility problems between LO Calc and
EXCEL 2007 and 2010 (XLSX)

On 08/23/2011 06:34 AM, Stanislav Franěk wrote:
 Hi,



 I have several problems with saving and reading some documents saved with
LO
 3.4 Calc (XLSX file) and opening with Excel 2007/2010 and vice versa. How
I
 can proceed to resolve this problems (Where I can upload problematic files
 with detail desription)?



 Thanks,



 Stanislav Franěk


Which version of 3.4 are you using?  3.4.0, 3.4.1, 3.4.2?  It would help 
to know which one you are using and which OS you are using as well.

Any reason that you cannot save these files in .xls instead of .xlsx?  I 
know that Microsoft wants .xlsx as the default format, but .xls is 
better in my opinion to use.  Every MS format ending in an x should 
be avoided.  Sure, the newest versions of LibreOffice reads and writes 
these x formats, but not perfectly.  So see if you can use the non x 
formats.

This will, at least, solve part of the problem until you find out what 
is causing your original issues.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: ReDim of a variable of a custom type

2011-08-23 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2011/8/23 Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com:
 2011/8/20 Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com:
 2011/8/19 Niklas Johansson sleeping.pil...@gmail.com:
 To empty the array use x = Nothing. So before the ReDim-statement do...

 …
       x = Nothing
       ReDim x(1) As MyType
 …

 I think you stumbled upon a bug since your using Option Compatible it should
 have the same behavior as VBA. In VBA both ReDim statements yields an error.
 “ReDim x(1) As MyType” because it has already been dimensioned and ReDim y
 As MyType  because it is not a dynamic Array.

 Okay, thanks everyone for your input. It seems like I have
 misunderstood the concept a little bit. I'll take a closer look at it
 when I get home after the weekend.

 J.R.


 I am now at home again, so I did some more tests. Here's the current
 example code (I modified the first one a little bit):
 REM  *  BASIC  *

 Option Compatible
 Option Explicit

 Type MyType
        a As Integer
        b As Integer
 End Type
 Dim x() As MyType ' Comment 1a: See Comment 2 below.
 Dim x(1) As MyType ' Comment 1b: See Comment 2 below.
 Dim z() As Integer

 Sub Main
        Dim y As MyType
        Dim i As Integer
        ReDim x(1) As MyType '  Comment 2: Gives an error if x was declared as
 at Comment 1a,
 '                               and the line at Comment 1b is omitted.
 '                               However, if both lines (1a and 1b) are there, 
 there is no error.
        ReDim z(3) As Integer
        For i=0 To 1
                x(i).a=i*2
                x(i).b=1+i*2
        Next i

        For i=0 To 3
                z(i)=6+i
        Next i

        y.a=4
        y.b=5

        MsgBox x(0).a  x(0).b  x(1).a  x(1).b  y.a  y.b  _
        z(0)  z(1)  z(2)  z(3) ' Comment 3: Displays 12345678910

        x=Nothing
        ReDim x(1) As MyType
        ReDim z(3)

Sorry, a type there. Should have been:
ReDim z(3) As Integer

It didn't matter for this test though.


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ

        ReDim y As MyType ' Comment 4: This doesn't give an error, but it 
 should?
        MsgBox x(0).a  x(0).b  x(1).a  x(1).b  y.a  y.b  _
        z(0)  z(1)  z(2)  z(3) ' Comment 5: Displays 00
 End Sub
 ———End of code———

 ”x=Nothing” seems to be the easiest solution or workaround at the
 moment. The suggestion to define x as a dynamic array didn't work with
 MyType. When doing ReDim, see Comment 2 within the code, I got an
 error message about the index, that was out of bounds, an error
 message I didn't get for z(), which I declared as Integer instead of
 MyType.
 It seems like I can ReDim x outside the subroutine but not inside it,
 see comments 1a, 1b and 2.

 So, if I declare something as a custom data type above a subroutine or
 function, I can not ReDim it inside a subroutine or function. Why is
 that? Or is it a bug? Because I can do that if it's declared as one of
 the existing data types, such as Integer.

 So after all, it seems like the combination of custom data types and
 ReDim doesn't behave in an expected way, does it? So there is maybe a
 bug there to report.
 And, as already pointed out, accepting ReDim for y in my example is
 probably also a bug, right?



 Kind regards

 Johnny Rosenberg
 ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: ReDim of a variable of a custom type

2011-08-23 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2011/8/23 Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com:
 2011/8/23 Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com:
 2011/8/20 Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com:
 2011/8/19 Niklas Johansson sleeping.pil...@gmail.com:
 To empty the array use x = Nothing. So before the ReDim-statement do...

 …
       x = Nothing
       ReDim x(1) As MyType
 …

 I think you stumbled upon a bug since your using Option Compatible it 
 should
 have the same behavior as VBA. In VBA both ReDim statements yields an 
 error.
 “ReDim x(1) As MyType” because it has already been dimensioned and ReDim y
 As MyType  because it is not a dynamic Array.

 Okay, thanks everyone for your input. It seems like I have
 misunderstood the concept a little bit. I'll take a closer look at it
 when I get home after the weekend.

 J.R.


 I am now at home again, so I did some more tests. Here's the current
 example code (I modified the first one a little bit):
 REM  *  BASIC  *

 Option Compatible
 Option Explicit

 Type MyType
        a As Integer
        b As Integer
 End Type
 Dim x() As MyType ' Comment 1a: See Comment 2 below.
 Dim x(1) As MyType ' Comment 1b: See Comment 2 below.
 Dim z() As Integer

 Sub Main
        Dim y As MyType
        Dim i As Integer
        ReDim x(1) As MyType '  Comment 2: Gives an error if x was declared as
 at Comment 1a,
 '                               and the line at Comment 1b is omitted.
 '                               However, if both lines (1a and 1b) are 
 there, there is no error.
        ReDim z(3) As Integer
        For i=0 To 1
                x(i).a=i*2
                x(i).b=1+i*2
        Next i

        For i=0 To 3
                z(i)=6+i
        Next i

        y.a=4
        y.b=5

        MsgBox x(0).a  x(0).b  x(1).a  x(1).b  y.a  y.b  _
        z(0)  z(1)  z(2)  z(3) ' Comment 3: Displays 12345678910

        x=Nothing
        ReDim x(1) As MyType
        ReDim z(3)

 Sorry, a type there. Should have been:

Aaaarghhh! I can't type today…! I meant ”typo”, not ”type”…


Johnny Rosenberg

 ReDim z(3) As Integer

 It didn't matter for this test though.


 Kind regards

 Johnny Rosenberg
 ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ

        ReDim y As MyType ' Comment 4: This doesn't give an error, but it 
 should?
        MsgBox x(0).a  x(0).b  x(1).a  x(1).b  y.a  y.b  _
        z(0)  z(1)  z(2)  z(3) ' Comment 5: Displays 00
 End Sub
 ———End of code———

 ”x=Nothing” seems to be the easiest solution or workaround at the
 moment. The suggestion to define x as a dynamic array didn't work with
 MyType. When doing ReDim, see Comment 2 within the code, I got an
 error message about the index, that was out of bounds, an error
 message I didn't get for z(), which I declared as Integer instead of
 MyType.
 It seems like I can ReDim x outside the subroutine but not inside it,
 see comments 1a, 1b and 2.

 So, if I declare something as a custom data type above a subroutine or
 function, I can not ReDim it inside a subroutine or function. Why is
 that? Or is it a bug? Because I can do that if it's declared as one of
 the existing data types, such as Integer.

 So after all, it seems like the combination of custom data types and
 ReDim doesn't behave in an expected way, does it? So there is maybe a
 bug there to report.
 And, as already pointed out, accepting ReDim for y in my example is
 probably also a bug, right?



 Kind regards

 Johnny Rosenberg
 ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ



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RE: [libreoffice-users] Compatibility problems between LO Calc and EXCEL 2007 and 2010 (XLSX)

2011-08-23 Thread planas
Stanislav,

On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 14:54 +0200, Stanislav Franěk wrote: 

 We have mix of Computers with various versions of MS Office (2007 and 2010)
 and LO (3.4.2) in our company installed. Now I make some steps, which
 eliminate using mix MS Office and LO upon one shared document in workgroup.
 So my offer to participate in debugging XML filters on LO is more guided by
 own interests than actual company needs
 I know of cource  about option of using XLS file format instead of XLSX
 :-)
 We are using LO 3.4.2. on Win XP and Win 7, x86 and x64 variants. Problems
 not depend on that however.
 So, is any interest in inspecting these files in LO developers comunity?
 Or is this mailing list wrong place for that type of problems?
 

To answer your question, you can send the files privately to one of the
monitors (me for example) to be looked at. Or you can post them and send
a link to the list, if there is nothing sensitive in a typical file, the
second is better. If neither is a good option, then could you construct
a test file for review? Attachments are stripped off any email. 

Is there any specific error that happens, such as formula not properly
calculating? 

After the problem has been identified, we can decide if a bug report is
necessary 

 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions
 [mailto:webmas...@krackedpress.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 1:48 PM
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Compatibility problems between LO Calc and
 EXCEL 2007 and 2010 (XLSX)
 
 On 08/23/2011 06:34 AM, Stanislav Franěk wrote:
  Hi,
 
 
 
  I have several problems with saving and reading some documents saved with
 LO
  3.4 Calc (XLSX file) and opening with Excel 2007/2010 and vice versa. How
 I
  can proceed to resolve this problems (Where I can upload problematic files
  with detail desription)?
 



 
  Thanks,
 
 
 
  Stanislav Franěk
 
 
 Which version of 3.4 are you using?  3.4.0, 3.4.1, 3.4.2?  It would help 
 to know which one you are using and which OS you are using as well.
 
 Any reason that you cannot save these files in .xls instead of .xlsx?  I 
 know that Microsoft wants .xlsx as the default format, but .xls is 
 better in my opinion to use.  Every MS format ending in an x should 
 be avoided.  Sure, the newest versions of LibreOffice reads and writes 
 these x formats, but not perfectly.  So see if you can use the non x 
 formats.
 
 This will, at least, solve part of the problem until you find out what 
 is causing your original issues.
 




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[libreoffice-users] RE: Compatibility problems between LO Calc and EXCEL 2007 and 2010 (XLSX)

2011-08-23 Thread Andreas Säger
In my honest opinion, write support for OOXML is a mistake. LibreOffice
should not help spreading a file format which has been bribed through the
standardization boards for 2 reasons: fight the ODF standard and establish a
non-free XML format for MS applications only.
Microsoft's Office Open XML restores a certain level of incompatibility
while having something with open and office and XML in the name
anyway.

What MS 2007 produces by default is the extended version of OOXML. It
represents Microsoft's conception of an office document beyond any standard.
With Office 2010 they started supporting the official OOXML version which
they bribed through the boards but even that one is an incredibly
complicated mess, impossible to implement by anybody except Microsoft.

MS Office 2007 introduced a lot of new features tailored to the new file
formats, and of course the new file formats can represent these new features
where the old binary formats must fail to do so. 
So the new file format may store things that can not be exposed by any
software other than resent MS Office versions whereas the old binary format
supports almost the same feature set as ODF (after 20 years of
co-evolution).
As long as MS Office comes with the same binary file filters as in Office
XP, there is no technical reason to exchange OOXML documents between
LibreOffice and MS software. 


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[libreoffice-users] Re: ReDim of a variable of a custom type

2011-08-23 Thread Andreas Säger
Userdefined structs are pointers. You've got to instanciate one new instance
every time you need one and Basic does not support arrays well. 

REM test routing
Sub Main
REM load one of my helper libs:
REM globalscope.basiclibraries.loadLibrary(myTools)
x() = Array()
REM input loop
for i = 0 to 9
ms = StructFactory.getNewMyStruct()
ms.a = test_ i
ms.c = i + i/100
ms.d = today()
myTools.Basic.bas_PushArray(x(), ms)
next
REM output loop
for i = 0 to 9
y = x(i)
print y.a, y.b, y.c, y.d
next
End Sub
++
REM myTools.Basic
Sub bas_PushArray(xArray(),vNextElement)
Dim iUB%,iLB%
iLB = lBound(xArray())
iUB = uBound(xArray())
If iLB  iUB then
iUB = iLB
redim xArray(iLB To iUB)
else
iUB = iUB +1
redim preserve xArray(iLB To iUB)
endif
xArray(iUB) = vNextElement
End Sub
++
REM module StructFactory
Type MyStruct
a as String
b as Boolean
c as Currency
d as Date
End Type

Function getNewMyStruct()
getNewMyStruct = new MyStruct
End Function

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[libreoffice-users] Cant open file

2011-08-23 Thread Ronnie Carlos Tavares Nunes

Hi,

I decided to install LO 3.4.2 on stations on my work. All of them now is 
slow, LO takes too much time to open and I have a calc document, that 
doesnt open in LO 3.4.2. So, I remove LO 3.4.2 and install LO 3.3.3. and 
the document now can be opened very well. The time the installer take to 
run is very high, almost 15 minutes on machines with xp and 1 GB RAM. 
Some documents with correct format, when opened with LO 3.4.2, are messy 
. Any ideas what happened with version 3.4.2?

Sorry with this is not the correct place to do questions like that.

Thank You.



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OT Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: Compatibility problems between LO Calc and EXCEL 2007 and 2010 (XLSX)

2011-08-23 Thread Cor Nouws

Andreas Säger wrote (23-08-11 17:21)

In my honest opinion, write support for OOXML is a mistake. LibreOffice
should not help spreading a file format which has been bribed through the
standardization boards for 2 reasons: fight the ODF standard and establish a
non-free XML format for MS applications only.


I agree with all your objections against OOXML and the whole process.
However, also without it being forced through procedures, we would have 
been confronted with it anyway :-\


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Re: OT Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: Compatibility problems between LO Calc and EXCEL 2007 and 2010 (XLSX)

2011-08-23 Thread Andreas Säger

Cor Nouws wrote:
 Andreas Säger wrote (23-08-11 17:21) In my honest opinion, write support
 for OOXML is a mistake. LibreOffice should not help spreading a file
 format which has been bribed through the standardization boards for 2
 reasons: fight the ODF standard and establish a non-free XML format for
 MS applications only.I agree with all your objections against OOXML and
 the whole process.However, also without it being forced through
 procedures, we would have been confronted with it anyway :-\-- 
Confronted, indeed. But the former go-oo team did not take up with that
confrontation when they added the abililty to generate OOXML. A best of
breed read-only support would have been sufficient since we have a 15 year
old mature exchange format.
Every OOXML generator helps to spread this pestilence of a file format.
Read-only access does not harm anyone.

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Re: OT Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: Compatibility problems between LO Calc and EXCEL 2007 and 2010 (XLSX)

2011-08-23 Thread Cor Nouws

Andreas Säger wrote (23-08-11 20:44)

Read-only access does not harm anyone.


Unless you have to co-operate and OOMXL is expected.
(You may ask yourself if you want to work in such a situation in the 
first place, but well, the world and office apps do not end now or next 
year... will be there in 5 and probably 10 too)


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Re: OT Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: Compatibility problems between LO Calc and EXCEL 2007 and 2010 (XLSX)

2011-08-23 Thread Andreas Säger
Currently there is no application which handles OOXML but not the binary
doc/xls/ppt. You can send binaries and they will open in WinWord without
problem.
There may be very, very rare cases where XML processors handle the document
rather than WinWord. Well, I think that not handling these rare cases is
better than spreading the desease.

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[libreoffice-users] registering

2011-08-23 Thread Jeremy Moore
I tried to register, received the e-mail reply but I cannot login.  What 
do I need to do to register? - your instructions are not clear or do not 
work.


Every time I try to print a document it goes into (not responding) - 
what am I supposed to do?  This is using a Thinkpad X201i, bought this 
year, with a Intel core 3 CPU, 2Gb memory running Windows 7 Home Premium 
64 bit OS.


I love the idea of Libre Office but it seems impossible to use.  What 
should I do?


Jem

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[libreoffice-users] Re: registering

2011-08-23 Thread Andreas Säger
There is nothing to be registered at.
Download from http://www.libreoffice.org/download/ and run the installation.
That's all.


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Re: OT Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: Compatibility problems between LO Calc and EXCEL 2007 and 2010 (XLSX)

2011-08-23 Thread Cor Nouws

Andreas Säger wrote (23-08-11 21:07)

Currently there is no application which handles OOXML but not the binary
doc/xls/ppt. You can send binaries and they will open in WinWord without
problem.
There may be very, very rare cases where XML processors handle the document
rather than WinWord. Well, I think that not handling these rare cases is
better than spreading the desease.


I would have the feeling that we can broaden our user base by supporting 
that too. But honestly: I have no scientific prove to support my or 
reject your idea.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Kexi

2011-08-23 Thread jorge
Hi

You are right. We can't use .kexi DB with other program. It isn't a
standard file. I hope than in the future they change it.

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez
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El lun, 22-08-2011 a las 16:34 -0400, Don Parris escribió:
 I have been looking at Kexi as well.  As I understand it, Kexi currently
 offers read-only access to DBs not actually created from within Kexi.  If
 you have already created a database, you will not have write access to that
 DB.  That said, if you create the DB from within Kexi, you can use it more
 or less as a front-end.  I haven't tried it yet on my Debian-KDE box, but I
 may do just that.  I think Calligra is going to be worth watching.
 
 I have used Base and learned a fair amount in the process.  Based on the
 number of postings about Base here on the list, I certainly hope it gets
 more attention.  I would offer to jump in, but I honestly can't code my way
 out of a wet paper bag. :-(
 
 I have used OOo/LO for several years now, but mind you, I am supportive of
 most libre projects.
 
 Don
 
 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 05:59, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 
  Hi :)
  You are welcome.  I just stumbled on that info just before reading your
  post.  I
  had heard of Kexi and Calligra before and had a quick hunt around their
  site and
  wikipedia but just before your post i'd had to look a bit deeper.  Spooky
  timing! :)
  Regards from
  Tom :)
 
 
 
  
  From: jorge jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Sent: Mon, 22 August, 2011 7:41:21
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Kexi
 
  Hi
 
 Thank you Tom for this adicional information.
 
  Regards,
 
  Jorge Rodríguez
 
  
 
  El lun, 22-08-2011 a las 02:54 +0100, Tom Davies escribió:
   Hi :)
   Kexi is the database app in Calligra.  Calligra is a fork of KOffice.
   KOffice
 
   gave all their remaining database devs to Calligra and dropped their
  version of
  
   the database.  Calligra seems very active.
  
  
   Unfortunately Calligra and KOffice are really quite dependant on the K
  Desktop
 
   Environment (KDE).  They do have a port for Windows (and possibly Mac,
  i'm not
 
   sure).  Calligra have also developed a few apps that can work on mobile
   platforms but that doesn't include Kexi yet.
  
  
   So,  the non-KDE versions of distros are going to ask for a  lot of
   dependencies, probably Qt libraries and stuff.  You will probably need to
  add
   the appropriate official repos.
  
  
   For Ubuntu you can try
   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
   to install all of Kubuntu into Ubuntu but you might want to revert to
  your
  Gnome
  
   or Unity DE at the login prompt (have a look along the bottom
  task-bar/panel
   when you get the login prompt).
  
   A few people are now working on Base.  A couple of devs and i think 1 for
   documentation (might be 2).  It is a tough challenge but that makes it
  fun
   right?
   Regards from
   Tom :)
  
  
  
  
   
   From: jorge jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com
   To: users@global.libreoffice.org
   Sent: Mon, 22 August, 2011 1:30:27
   Subject: [libreoffice-users] Kexi
  
   Hi
  
   Many days ago some of us were talking about BASE and its problems.
  One
   of you noted about Kexi base program that's part of Office Suite of
   KDE ... as alternative of BASE.
  
   I installed that Office suite in Fedora 15 and opened access 2003
  data
   base that I have. I can't probe with 2007 access data base because I
   don't have an example of that.
  
   I'm not use it a lot but it looks good. I suggest to others to test
  it
   if have time and are interested because it would be an alternative to
   BASE if it won't improve in the next time.
  
   I have to say that the KDE complete Office suite (Included Kexi)
  isn't
   in Ubuntu 10.04 lts repositories. I think is a recently improved program
   of KDE.
  
   I hope this post help some one though it isn't part of LO.
  
   Regards,
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: List Box Form Control changing Source Cell Range

2011-08-23 Thread Jean-Louis Oneto

Le 22/08/2011 08:26, Johnny Rosenberg a écrit :

2011/8/22 Jean-Louis Onetojl.on...@free.fr:

Hello,
I didn't notice the link to example file at first glance, but the
alternative of using the Data Validation tool is really very powerful!
I would never found it by myself without your example! It is really an nice
solution and it surely deserve a better publicity in the doc.
Thanks a lot to all of you,
Jean-Louis

Maybe it deserves a better name in the menu? But unfortunately I have
no suggestions, at least not yet…

I feel that the validation tool is just well named: the problem is 
rather that it can make so many different things that it is diffucuilt 
if non impossible to find a better name!
My problem was rather the opposite: I always considered that the Data 
menu contained almost only tools for... databases (or at least data 
sources, including reformating of CSV data...
That was partly why I didn't understand why Controls were made for 
databases, and why I had to avoid controls in the first place. My 
first think was rather the opposite: use the controls for simple tasks 
on calc sheets, and use Data menu items for databases. This was 
sustained by the fact that most of the Data tools just ask you to 
connect to a database!
May be it should be the control tools which should be renamed (or just 
suppressed as some people suggested) ?

Regards,
Jean-Louis

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[libreoffice-users] Re: registering

2011-08-23 Thread Tom
Hi :)
I think this question is really 'just' a printer problem rather than an
install problem.  

I think i found the page of instructions you were following
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/system-requirements/

Registration of LibreOffice as default application for Microsoft Office
formats can be forced or suppressed by using the following command line
switches with the installer:

* /msoreg=1 will force registration of LibreOffice as default
application for Microsoft Office formats;
* /msoreg=0 will suppress registration of LibreOffice as default
application for Microsoft Office formats.

If you perform an administrative installation using set-up /a, you need to
make sure that the file mmsvc90.dll is installed on the system. This file is
required for LibreOffice to start after an administrative installation. You
can download the file here.


This is to do with getting LibreOffice to be accepted as the default app for
formats such as .doc, .docX, .xls and all the other MS Office formats. 
Personally i wouldn't have bothered with doing that just yet.  Just do a
normal install by double-clicking on the installer that you downloaded.  

I am not sure what to do next but i am fairly sure that following those
instructions would not have hurt so there is 'just' something not quite
right with the way LibreOffice sees the printer.

Hopefully someone here knows about printers and might be able to help!
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Kexi

2011-08-23 Thread NoOp
On 08/21/2011 05:30 PM, jorge wrote:
 Hi
 
   Many days ago some of us were talking about BASE and its problems. One
 of you noted about Kexi base program that's part of Office Suite of
 KDE ... as alternative of BASE.
...
Please start a new thread rather than hijacking the How do I delete
unwanted Extensions? thread. Meaning start a *new* email with your
subject rather than simply using anothers thread and changing the subject.

See these:
References: 1313928396037-3272690.p...@n3.nabble.com
878883.76995...@smtp819.mail.ird.yahoo.com
1313933774910-3272836.p...@n3.nabble.com
j2s13s$n4s$1...@dough.gmane.org
In-Reply-To: j2s13s$n4s$1...@dough.gmane.org
That shows that you are replying to posts from other users instead of
starting your own thread. Note: those headers may differ depending upon
what others are using to read posts in the list.

Note to those replying to 'jorge'; please mind the same  rather than
respond to a thread hijacker, politely ask them to start a new thread.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Kexi

2011-08-23 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Oops, sorry.  Good point :)
Apols and regards from
Tom :)





From: NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 24 August, 2011 1:55:33
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Kexi

snip /

...
Please start a new thread rather than hijacking the How do I delete
unwanted Extensions? thread. Meaning start a *new* email with your
subject rather than simply using anothers thread and changing the subject.

See these:
References: 1313928396037-3272690.p...@n3.nabble.com
878883.76995...@smtp819.mail.ird.yahoo.com
1313933774910-3272836.p...@n3.nabble.com
j2s13s$n4s$1...@dough.gmane.org
In-Reply-To: j2s13s$n4s$1...@dough.gmane.org
That shows that you are replying to posts from other users instead of
starting your own thread. Note: those headers may differ depending upon
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Re: OT Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: Compatibility problems between LO Calc and EXCEL 2007 and 2010 (XLSX)

2011-08-23 Thread Andreas Säger

Cor Nouws wrote:
 
 Andreas Säger wrote (23-08-11 21:07)
 Currently there is no application which handles OOXML but not the binary
 doc/xls/ppt. You can send binaries and they will open in WinWord without
 problem.
 There may be very, very rare cases where XML processors handle the
 document
 rather than WinWord. Well, I think that not handling these rare cases is
 better than spreading the desease.
 
 I would have the feeling that we can broaden our user base by supporting 
 that too. But honestly: I have no scientific prove to support my or 
 reject your idea.
 
Nothing scientific neither, but interesting reading:
http://www.robweir.com/blog/2011/01/microsoft-remove-doc-format-support.html

In the past 2 years I received quite a few Excel/WinWord files. None of them
was OOXML.

Completely free ODF support for MSOffice is the the way to go:
http://www.osor.eu/news/danish-hospital-hassle-free-use-of-odf-across-competing-office-suites
The old Sun plugin for MS Office is still downloadable for free. It
resembles OOo 3.2 which should be still close to perfect.

I'm afraid it is too late by now. Go-OO/LibO gave up the fight long before
OOXML entered the scene. Withdrawal of OOXML export is not an option
anymore.

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[libreoffice-users] Kexi Data Base as Alternative of Base of LO

2011-08-23 Thread jorge
Hi

Excuse me if I don't understand very well but not allways I understand
all the english meaning languaje. But I try ! I did a new topic as I
understood your coment.

Excuse me if I bother you with this topic but I think it would be
important for someone.

I red that we can use Sqlite 3 to access .kexi data base file and I
installed Sqliteman (front end of Sqlite) and accessed it and made
changes and save it. Then I opened with kexi again and they was
recognized. 

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[libreoffice-users] Re: OT Re: RE: Compatibility problems between LO Calc and EXCEL 2007 and 2010 (XLSX)

2011-08-23 Thread NoOp
On 08/23/2011 06:18 PM, Andreas Säger wrote:
...
 The old Sun plugin for MS Office is still downloadable for free. It
 resembles OOo 3.2 which should be still close to perfect.

And you've found that where?


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Kexi Data Base as Alternative of Base of LO

2011-08-23 Thread jorge
Excuse me:

I read (past) not red (pronunciation)

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez
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El mar, 23-08-2011 a las 19:44 -0600, jorge escribió:
 Hi
 
   Excuse me if I don't understand very well but not allways I understand
 all the english meaning languaje. But I try ! I did a new topic as I
 understood your coment.
 
   Excuse me if I bother you with this topic but I think it would be
 important for someone.
 
   I red that we can use Sqlite 3 to access .kexi data base file and I
 installed Sqliteman (front end of Sqlite) and accessed it and made
 changes and save it. Then I opened with kexi again and they was
 recognized.   
 
 Regards,
 

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Jorge Rodríguez


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[libreoffice-users] Libre Office Draw Printing Incorrectly.

2011-08-23 Thread maxo
I'm having difficulty printing to both my SAMSUNG CLP-610ND and my HP5550 at
work.

Openoffice 3.2 prints correctly on both printers.
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n3280018/Libra_Draw_Print_Error.jpg 

The bezier curves are going straight from point to point in the printout.
The bitmap is printing an extra rectangle that does not display.
My more complex drawings print even worse (but display perfectly).

Again, they print fine in OO Draw 3.2.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Office Draw Printing Incorrectly.

2011-08-23 Thread Steve Edmonds
Hi.

On 2011-08-24 16:42, maxo wrote:
 I'm having difficulty printing to both my SAMSUNG CLP-610ND and my HP5550 at
 work.

 Openoffice 3.2 prints correctly on both printers.
 http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n3280018/Libra_Draw_Print_Error.jpg 

 The bezier curves are going straight from point to point in the printout.
 The bitmap is printing an extra rectangle that does not display.
 My more complex drawings print even worse (but display perfectly).

 Again, they print fine in OO Draw 3.2.

   
.Which LO version and OS

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