[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice / OpenOffice Calc very slow with Excel File

[Andreas Säger]

Am 25.09.2011 23:59, Bill Gradwohl wrote:

On 09/25/2011 12:37 PM, Cor Nouws wrote:

However, the file turns out to have 41472 empty (?) graphics on the
second sheet ...

Cor:

This "creation" of objects is earily similar to the problems I
encountered where I would have numerous hidden buttons on a spreadsheet
that I never created. My document was created and used only under OO /
LO, never Excel.


The 8 MB are made of thin air? Someone copied 3 objects "Text 1", "Text 
2" and "Text 3" and then held Ctrl+V.
Apart from this binary shit storm, there are hundreds of different cell 
formats in this tiny and most trivial spreadsheet.
It's the usual Excel madness were computer illiterate people edit the 
same instance of a document thousands of times never using templates, 
scenarios nor styles.



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[Jeremy J. Shapiro]

"Multum temporis res non magno aestimandae poposcerunt."
-- Seneca, De Tranquillitate Animi 



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Two dictionary questions

[Guy Voets]

2011/9/26 Jeremy J. Shapiro :
> 1)  What path do the dictionaries need to be locate such that LibreOffice
> will consult them and enable one to add words to them?
>
> 2)  Is there a way to get LibreOffice to consult more than one dictionary
> for a text that has sections in or words from two (or more) different
> languages?
>
>        Jeremy Shapiro
>
Hello Jeremy,

1) I'm not too sure... but dictionaries now are extensions (.oxt), so
I suppose they are located where LibO keeps its extensions. The
place/path may vary according to your OS.

On my Mac, I found them in the LibO package (in the Programs or
Applications folder):
Contents>share>extensions>dict-en / dict-es / dict-fr / dict-nl ...

Since I installed the US version and a Dutch language pack, I also
find in the LibO package
Contents>basis-link>share>wordbook>nl and ...>en-US

So apparently, I have two dictionaries for NL... which one is really in use?
According to the size, it  seems to be the ones in >extensions.

2) In LibO, language is linked to character (Format>Character>Font>Language).
It is the most practical to link language to a template or paragraph
style. When you use a certain style, including a language defintion,
for a paragraph, LibO will consult the corresponding dictionary (if it
is installed - see a blue V next to its name in the language list).
LibO may check spelling (and possibly grammar) while you type, or
afterwards when you do a check-up.
If you use more than one language, you can specify this to LibO by
using several paragrapgh styles, each with different language choice,
or you can simply highligt a word or sentence and indicate another
language for it (in the Format menu, or in the status bar below,
simply clicking in the 3rd item and chosing the right language).

I hope I made it clear...
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Re: [libreoffice-users] libreoffice impress can converts from pptx to jpeg multi-page, this is possible?

[e-letter]

On 25/09/2011, manuel muzzurru  wrote:
> hello
>
> i like very libreoffice, thank you team libreoffice!
>
> then i need to ask you,
>
> i hvae pptx convert to jpeg but with multi-page because i have 200 pages, i
> did try:
> file>export...>save in jpeg>size and quality, etc, > exported but not all
> pages...
> how i can convert all page in jpeg?how?

A bit confused by other replies, but export of impress files to html
creates images of each page, in png format.

As Mr/Ms Cohen states, you could use imagemagick to convert the images
to jpeg, but unless the original presentation pages contained
photographic images, it is probably better to keep to png format to
reduce further loss of image quality during the conversion to jpeg.

Also with imagemagick you can change the size of the images using the
command 'resize'.

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[libreoffice-users] Auto-Update a Report

[Ian Whitfield]

Hi All

Does anyone know of a good Tutorial to lay-out a Report in 'Write' that 
Auto-Updates from my Database in 'Base'??


Thanks in advance.

Ian Whitfield
Pretoria

(OO 3.2.1 on Linux Mint 10 KDE)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] percentage to get number in Calc

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Hmm, i know BODMAS 'should' calculate that correctly but it's possible that a 
program or the person typing it in might incorrectly read an equation like that 
as 
= 556.85 / (646.15*100)
Also any further calculations done using the correct percentage would have to 
remember to divide by 100 which could become cumbersome.  

It is good to know of different ways of handling a problem in case one way is 
troublesome for some reason that wasn't (or couldn't) be stated earlier in a 
thread.
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Mon, 26/9/11, Steve Edmonds  wrote:

From: Steve Edmonds 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] percentage to get number in Calc
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 26 September, 2011, 4:58

Hi. A spreadsheet is a different way of working. At school we would have
learned 556.85 /646.15*100 to calculate the percentage but formatting in
the spreadsheet as a percentage saves multiplying by 100.
steve

On 2011-09-26 16:49, James wrote:
> On 09/25/11 23:10, Tom Davies wrote:
>> Hi :)
>> Ok, say the numbers are written along the top row such that
>>
>> A1 = 646.15
>> A2 = 556.85
>>
>> then
>>
>> A4 = A2/A1
>>
>> Click on A4 and go up to the menus at the top to choose
>>
>> Format - Cell - Number
>> in the first box "Category" select "Percentage"
>>
>> I think it's better to avoid keying in the currency symbol and just
>> format those cells as "Currency" instead of as "Percentages".  That
>> way you still get the currency symbol anyway but don't have to type
>> it in.  It also avoids confusions.  Note that i left a gap between
>> the data and the calculation purely because i think it looks nicer.
> Thanks for the solution.
> I feel stupid for making it seem hard. :-)
>>  
>> Regards from
>> Tom :)
>>
>>
>> --- On Mon, 26/9/11, James  wrote:
>>
>> From: James
>> Subject: [libreoffice-users] percentage to get number in Calc
>> To: "libreoffice-users Mailing List"
>> Date: Monday, 26 September, 2011, 3:46
>>
>> I have a number $646.15
>> and a number $556.85
>> How do I make a formula in a new cell that is the percentage of the
>> first number that equals the second number?
>>
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[libreoffice-users] Re: percentage to get number in Calc

[Andreas Säger]

Am 26.09.2011 05:58, Steve Edmonds wrote:

Hi. A spreadsheet is a different way of working. At school we would have
learned 556.85 /646.15*100 to calculate the percentage but formatting in
the spreadsheet as a percentage saves multiplying by 100.
steve



But 86.17968 is wrong. 86.17968 does not reflect the relation between 
the 2 numbers which is 0.8617968.



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[libreoffice-users] Spell check not working

[STRINGER LEON]

Hi,

I installed LO 3.4.3 (OOO340m1 Build 302) a few weeks ago and I've
just noticed that the spell check (both AutoSpellCheck and
Tools->Spelling and Grammar...) don't work.

For AutoSpellCheck, mispelled words are not underlined.

For Spelling and Grammar I just immediately get a message saying "The
spell check is complete".

I installed LibO_3.4.3_Win_x86_helppack_en-GB and I've re-run the
installer with the repair option but no improvement. (English (UK) is
my default language for documents).

Does anyone have any ideas as to why this isn't working?

I have had previous versions installed if that might be conflicting?

Running on Windows XP SP3.

Thanks,

Leon

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Re: [libreoffice-users] libreoffice impress can converts from pptx to jpeg multi-page, this is possible?

[Dotan Cohen]

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 23:29, manuel muzzurru  wrote:
> ok but remember for new user has not experience like terminal or other 
> software...
> i wanted that libreoffice has rich features until new user will be like and 
> download libreoffice "because libreoffice is rich features"
> example my friends dont know linux, not know terminal, they dont know to how 
> install third-part.. my friends are very good but not know.. this mean they 
> are newbie users...
>

You do not need any experience with the command line to copy and paste
the command that I sent to you. Copy and pasting the command is much
easier than saying "click the icon that looks like a duck, it might be
near the left if you have such-and-such configuration and screen size,
now click the icon that looks like a telescope, which might not appear
in your configuration, now right click and look in the ZXC submenu for
the QWERTY item"...


> for me it's not bad if libreoffice adds new feature like style 
> (http://dhdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Gwenview-snapshot05.png) 
> right? it's not pain right?
>

Gwen is an image-viewing application, not an office suite. I would
expect it to have an export feature, but I would not expect that of an
office suite.


> do you think if libreoffice offers export various so users don't like it?not 
> users will like it and download it..
>

I think that your idea would make a terrific plugin, but is not
suitable for the core application. But that is only my own opinion. If
you feel that the feature is justified then go ahead and file a RFE.

-- 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: In Writer, how can I type characters from the IPA (International Phonetic Alphabet)?

[dionysien]

The *I*nternational *P*honetic *A*lphabet is a universal means of
representing the speech sounds of any language. The corresponding chars can
be found under /Phonetic Symbols/ in the list of  http://unicode.org/charts/
Unicode 6.0 Character Code Charts . Although by far not as high that of CJK,
the amount of IPA chars (with combining diacritics) results in a long list
of char (combination)/key combination  mappings. Fortunately, most users
need just a subset of it.
Regards
Jean-François

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Re: [libreoffice-users] libreoffice impress can converts from pptx to jpeg multi-page, this is possible?

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
To post a "feature request" or "wish-list" item this guide might have some 
useful points.
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport
I would [put "[wishlist]" in the subject line along with 2 or 3 keywords so 
people know what the issue is about.  Then one of the drop-downs, possibly 
"severity"(?) has an option such as "feature request" or something like that.  

I agree that it helps to give a link to how to run terminal commands when 
giving command-line instructions but it's not always possible and sometimes 
might be seen as patronising.  It's impossible to get the right balance every 
time but hopefully people are comfortable enough to ask for clarification if 
answers are not clear enough for them.  

The list can be very intimidating and unfriendly but some people here really do 
want to help.  
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Mon, 26/9/11, Dotan Cohen  wrote:

From: Dotan Cohen 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] libreoffice impress can converts from pptx to 
jpeg multi-page, this is possible?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 26 September, 2011, 13:04

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 23:29, manuel muzzurru  wrote:
> ok but remember for new user has not experience like terminal or other 
> software...
> i wanted that libreoffice has rich features until new user will be like and 
> download libreoffice "because libreoffice is rich features"
> example my friends dont know linux, not know terminal, they dont know to how 
> install third-part.. my friends are very good but not know.. this mean they 
> are newbie users...
>

You do not need any experience with the command line to copy and paste
the command that I sent to you. Copy and pasting the command is much
easier than saying "click the icon that looks like a duck, it might be
near the left if you have such-and-such configuration and screen size,
now click the icon that looks like a telescope, which might not appear
in your configuration, now right click and look in the ZXC submenu for
the QWERTY item"...


> for me it's not bad if libreoffice adds new feature like style 
> (http://dhdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Gwenview-snapshot05.png) 
> right? it's not pain right?
>

Gwen is an image-viewing application, not an office suite. I would
expect it to have an export feature, but I would not expect that of an
office suite.


> do you think if libreoffice offers export various so users don't like it?not 
> users will like it and download it..
>

I think that your idea would make a terrific plugin, but is not
suitable for the core application. But that is only my own opinion. If
you feel that the feature is justified then go ahead and file a RFE.

-- 
Dotan Cohen

http://gibberish.co.il
http://what-is-what.com

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: percentage to get number in Calc

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
It's not really wrong but there needs to be some indication that it is a 
percentage figure.  The original numbers don't really warrant more than 2 
decimal places.  Another way of removing problems with ambiguity would be to 
write the equation as
= 556.85 * 100 / 646.15
Then it doesn't matter if  (100/646.15) is calculated first or the (556.85 * 
100), either way the answer is about the same, hopefully exactly the same.  
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Mon, 26/9/11, Andreas Säger  wrote:

From: Andreas Säger 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: percentage to get number in Calc
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 26 September, 2011, 11:25

Am 26.09.2011 05:58, Steve Edmonds wrote:
> Hi. A spreadsheet is a different way of working. At school we would have
> learned 556.85 /646.15*100 to calculate the percentage but formatting in
> the spreadsheet as a percentage saves multiplying by 100.
> steve
> 

But 86.17968 is wrong. 86.17968 does not reflect the relation between the 2 
numbers which is 0.8617968.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: percentage to get number in Calc

[Andreas Säger]

Am 26.09.2011 14:58, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
It's not really wrong but there needs to be some indication that it is a 
percentage figure.  The original numbers don't really warrant more than 2 
decimal places.  Another way of removing problems with ambiguity would be to 
write the equation as
= 556.85 * 100 / 646.15
Then it doesn't matter if  (100/646.15) is calculated first or the (556.85 * 
100), either way the answer is about the same, hopefully exactly the same.
Regards from
Tom :)




Why not simply formatting the correct value as percentage? This way we 
have the indication that it is a percentage figure while having the 
correct relation for further calculations.



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[libreoffice-users] Real Usenet newsgroups

[dave boland]

I would like to request that LO get real newsgroups like Ubuntu
(alt.os.linux.ubuntu) and MEPIS (alt.os.linux.mepis) have.  Real
newsgroups are more convenient to use, don't clog up newsreaders with
unwanted notes, and don't waste time on cutesy web pages.  LO is now an
open source force (a good thing), and it is time to have real
newsgroups.

Yes, I'm aware of spam concerns -- so what!

Dave,
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[libreoffice-users] Error messages on starting LO

[Rev. Nick Sharp]

Whenever I open LibreOffice for the first time, whether it's a Writer,
Calc, Draw, Impress or Base document, new or existing, I get two error
messages popping up.

The first says,
Error loading BASIC of document
file:///c:/Users/Nick/AppData/Roaming/LibreOffice/3/user/basic/dialog.xlc:
General Error.
General input/output error.

The second says,
Error loading BASIC of document
file:///c:/Users/Nick/AppData/Roaming/LibreOffice/3/user/basic/dialog.xli:
General Error.
General input/output error.

That's identical, except it refers to dialog.xli, not dialog.xlc.

If I navigate to that location, the folder "basic" does not include a
file with either name, just one called script.xlc. There are two files
called dialog.xlb in two subfolders, Library1 and Standard.

Reinstalling hasn't helped.

LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Windows 7 64 bit.

I just dismiss the messages and carry on without any problems, so it's
not too bad, just a puzzle and an irritation.

Does anybody know what I can do to fix this?

Nick

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Real Usenet newsgroups

[Mihamina Rakotomandimby]

On 09/26/2011 04:25 PM, dave boland wrote:

I would like to request that LO get real newsgroups like Ubuntu
(alt.os.linux.ubuntu) and MEPIS (alt.os.linux.mepis) have.


Have you heard about Gmane?
You can have this list as newgroup with this.
http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.user

So what? ;-)

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[libreoffice-users] Re: template

[Alexander Thurgood]

Le 26/09/11 07:49, Howard Barr a écrit :

As the French say : "Vous avez le choix d'armes", or choice of weapons
is yours...


> I made a template our group can use to print business cards with their
> name and address. We are a volunteer group spread out all over the
> country and it would be nice if they could login to our home page,
> access the template, use the screen to type in their details and print
> the sheet of business cards.
> 
> I have no idea how to go about this but I guess a database would be
> involved.
> 

Use a LAMP/MAMP/WAMP stack to create your Writer documents (if you are
using a ODF Writer template and PHP ODF manipulation classes :

http://pelmel.org/spip/Classes-ODF-en-PHP

http://www.phpfrance.com/tutoriaux/index.php/2009/05/25/53-manipuler-des-fichiers-opendocument-avec-php

http://phpdocwriter.sourceforge.net/index.php?lang=en

http://www.tinybutstrong.com/fr/tbsooo.php


Alex



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MySQL Native Connector

[Heinrich Stoellinger]

Hi Tom,
Today I tried to download and then activate the MySQL Native Connector you put 
on
LO-Extensions. However, I still get the error message
"loading component library failed. 
file:///home.../.../..32bit.oxt/mysqlc.uno.so."
Any idea what could be the reason? The only thing I can think of is that I use
LO 3.4.2 (in addition to using a "bleeding-edge" Debian-Wheezy!).
Thanks for any ideas.
Regards
Heinrich

On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 06:00:28 +0200, Tom Davies  wrote:


Hi :)
Thanks :)  So Building neatly avoids the packagiong issues of .rpm versus .deb?  We 
just need 1 for 32bit Gnu&Linux and 1 for 64bit, not 1 for each of the main 
families (Arch? Slackware, Debian, RedHat, errr)?  So, Heinrich's build might be 
good to upload to your page?

Doing a build sounds quite technical to me.  I need to look at the guide as i have 
never done it before (well twice doing copy&paste from guides and not having a 
clue what i was doing).  Anyway, thanks for the link to the guide :)  Heinrich, has 
it helped?
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Tue, 20/9/11, Alexander Thurgood  wrote:

From: Alexander Thurgood 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: MySQL Native Connector
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 20 September, 2011, 16:25

Le 20/09/11 12:25, Tom Davies a écrit :

Hi Tom,


After 1 person has built it for their system can the built package be uploaded 
somewhere for other people to use?  If so could it be uploaded to the new LO 
Extensions&templates site?


This is precisely what I have done for Mac OSX.



How generic are builds?  Would it cover the entire family (Ubuntu, Mint, 
Trisquel etc), just Debian, one particular release of Debian, or just the 
specific machine?


I really don't know, but I'm hasarding a guess that they are fairly
generic - however, each distrib currently packages its own version of
the connector extension to accompany any given release of their own
version of LibO. What is certain is that if you want a 32bit connector,
you have to build with the 32bit mysql connector C library, and if you
want 64bit, well...the corresponding bit library for that.

If you look at the OOo extension site, the MySQL native connector
extension was provided in the following flavours :

http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/mysql_connector

Linux (32bit)
Linux x86_64
Mac OS X (32bit only)
Solaris Sparc
Solaris x86
Windows (I assume only 32bit, but who knows ?)

So, one would need to build for these arch/OSes and also Win64.


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[libreoffice-users] Relational database example help

[dave boland]

I have been messing around with Base for a relational application.  The
User Guide mentions the word "relational" twice, but offers no
examples/explanations.  That really needs to be changed.

In the mean time, perhaps someone could write up a quick procedure for
the simple example I have below.  My interest is mainly setting up the
tables (4) and making sure the company name is in both the Client and
Contact tables.  I realize that a foreign key comes in to play, but it
is not clear how to do this or how information flows from one table to
another.  The forms seem to be easy, so they were included just to
complete the thought.

The example application a customer information database.  It uses forms
for input, reports with queries.

The information collected is:
[Company]
Company ID.Int...Primary Key
Company Name...VarChar...Name
Company AddressVarChar...Address
Company URLVarChar...URL

[Client]
Client ID..Int...Primary Key
Company Name...VarChar...Same as Company.Company Name
Client NameVarChar...Individual's name
Client Department..VarChar...Department the client works in
Client Phone...VarChar...Phone number
Client Email...VarChar...e-mail address
Client Interests...VarChar...Interests
Client Notes...Memo..Information about client

[Contacts]
Contact ID.Int...Primary Key
Contact Date...Date..When I contacted the client
Company Name...VarChar...Same as Company.Company Name
Client NameVarChar...Same as Client.Client Name
Contact Method.VarChar...From a list that includes phone, e-mail,
meeting, FAX
Contact Notes..Memo..Notes/ToDo for the client
Followup Date..Date..The date that I need to re-contact the
client.

There will be three forms - Selection, Client Information, and a
sub-form for Company Information.  They may look something like this:

-
~~~ Selection ~~~
#   Company Name Client Name
--  ---  
1
2
:
nth

[Go To Client]  [Add Client]
-

-
~~~ Client Information ~~~
Company Name [Company Information Link]:  
Client Name: Client Department:
Phone:   e-mail:
Interests:
Notes:

   Contacts
#   DateContact Method   Notes  Follow-up
Date
--  --  --   - 
--
1
2
:
nth

[Add Contact]  [Update Contact]

-

-
~~~ Company Information ~~~
Company Name:
Company Address:
Comapny URL:

[Add Company]
--



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Real Usenet newsgroups

[dave boland]

I'm not interested in a web based system -- too slow, reg, req'd., etc. 
Make it regular newsgroups like Ubuntu and Mepis.

Dave,



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> On 09/26/2011 04:25 PM, dave boland wrote:
> > I would like to request that LO get real newsgroups like Ubuntu
> > (alt.os.linux.ubuntu) and MEPIS (alt.os.linux.mepis) have.
> 
> Have you heard about Gmane?
> You can have this list as newgroup with this.
> http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.user
> 
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[libreoffice-users] preservation of views and personal settings

[e-letter]

Readers,

A couple of annoying interface behaviours: personal toolbar
preferences (e.g. visible 'load url bar') and in impress, to be able
to disable the view of the task bar.

Is there an obscure settings file that can be accessed and copied for
new installations of LO? Personalising each computer after LO is
installed is a bit repetitive.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Relational database example help

[dave boland]

Looks like my net connection went out before this was posted, so this is
attempt 2.

Dave,

On Monday, September 26, 2011 10:14 AM, "dave boland"
 wrote:
> I have been messing around with Base for a relational application.  The
> User Guide mentions the word "relational" twice, but offers no
> examples/explanations.  That really needs to be changed.
> 
> In the mean time, perhaps someone could write up a quick procedure for
> the simple example I have below.  My interest is mainly setting up the
> tables (4) and making sure the company name is in both the Client and
> Contact tables.  I realize that a foreign key comes in to play, but it
> is not clear how to do this or how information flows from one table to
> another.  The forms seem to be easy, so they were included just to
> complete the thought.
> 
> The example application a customer information database.  It uses forms
> for input, reports with queries.
> 
> The information collected is:
> [Company]
> Company ID.Int...Primary Key
> Company Name...VarChar...Name
> Company AddressVarChar...Address
> Company URLVarChar...URL
> 
> [Client]
> Client ID..Int...Primary Key
> Company Name...VarChar...Same as Company.Company Name
> Client NameVarChar...Individual's name
> Client Department..VarChar...Department the client works in
> Client Phone...VarChar...Phone number
> Client Email...VarChar...e-mail address
> Client Interests...VarChar...Interests
> Client Notes...Memo..Information about client
> 
> [Contacts]
> Contact ID.Int...Primary Key
> Contact Date...Date..When I contacted the client
> Company Name...VarChar...Same as Company.Company Name
> Client NameVarChar...Same as Client.Client Name
> Contact Method.VarChar...From a list that includes phone, e-mail,
> meeting, FAX
> Contact Notes..Memo..Notes/ToDo for the client
> Followup Date..Date..The date that I need to re-contact the
> client.
> 
> There will be three forms - Selection, Client Information, and a
> sub-form for Company Information.  They may look something like this:
> 
> -
> ~~~ Selection ~~~
> #   Company Name Client Name
> --  ---  
> 1
> 2
> :
> nth
> 
> [Go To Client]  [Add Client]
> -
> 
> -
> ~~~ Client Information ~~~
> Company Name [Company Information Link]:  
> Client Name: Client Department:
> Phone:   e-mail:
> Interests:
> Notes:
> 
>Contacts
> #   DateContact Method   Notes  Follow-up
> Date
> --  --  --   - 
> --
> 1
> 2
> :
> nth
> 
> [Add Contact]  [Update Contact]
> 
> -
> 
> -
> ~~~ Company Information ~~~
> Company Name:
> Company Address:
> Comapny URL:
> 
> [Add Company]
> --
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Dave
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[libreoffice-users] LO updates for Ubuntu 10.04

[dave boland]

I have Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and a PPA for LO, but I have yet to see an
update from my 3.3.2 to the current 3.3.4.  Do I need to add another PPA
or do something else?

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Relational database example help

[Andreas Säger]

Am 26.09.2011 16:26, dave boland wrote:

Looks like my net connection went out before this was posted, so this is
attempt 2.

Dave,

On Monday, September 26, 2011 10:14 AM, "dave boland"
  wrote:

I have been messing around with Base for a relational application.  The
User Guide mentions the word "relational" twice, but offers no
examples/explanations.  That really needs to be changed.



"Messing around" with a database is like doing the same with a 
programming language. You won't get anywhere.



http://openoffice.org/projects/documentation/downloads/directory/Base/Mid%20level%20Base%20tutorial


First you've got to learn about tables, fields, relations and keys. Then 
you can use dozends of different databases with Base, Access, php 
webtools or similar database tools.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Two dictionary questions

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On 09/26/2011 12:05 AM, Jeremy J. Shapiro wrote:
1)  What path do the dictionaries need to be locate such that 
LibreOffice will consult them and enable one to add words to them?


2)  Is there a way to get LibreOffice to consult more than one 
dictionary for a text that has sections in or words from two (or more) 
different languages?


Jeremy Shapiro


Do you want to add words to the dictionaries [such as the English .oxt 
dictionary files], or use the default "personal" or "standard" 
dictionary and add words to that?


I would not add words to the .oxt dictionary files unless you are 
building your own dictionary that will be used by others.  To do that, I 
can help you, but you should contact me off the list for the instructions.

   [webmas...@libreoffice-na.us]
They are simple to do, if you have some basic computer skills and the 
right type of [free] software.


I created "the below" English dictionary from an older English .oxt file 
and replaced the older word list with a newer one.  If you have your own 
word list for medical, chemical, etc., specific/exact words, it is easy 
to do using parts of a current one for your "default" language.  You 
just need to do a few things to make it work.  To be honest, I have a 
unadbridge dictionary word list of over 200,000 words.  I would not want 
to use such a dictionary since I could have typed in a wrong word that 
is spelled correctly for a different word that was not what I wanted in 
my text.  The one I used was has 51042 words in it.  That was enough for 
my use, at this time.  The older on has over 60,000 words in it but it 
has words like;  Artaxerxes, Bujumbura, Zubenelgenubi, Zubeneschamali, 
which all seem to be specific cultural "family" names.  I think the 
people who created the newer word list wanted to remove the non-English 
family names [or something] from the list.  Those types of "words" 
should not be in an "English word" dictionary list anyways.  There are 
family name word lists out there as well.  I have one that is over 8,000 
names long, that is on the LO-NA DVDs, but in the short list, not the 
longer one on the dictionary page of the LO-NA DVDs.


http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/US_English_April-19-2011-dic-file.oxt

http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/US-English-Names---dict-en-us-names2008-10-12.oxt

If the dictionary is for your own use and you want to add words to it on 
a daily/weekly basis for those in your text that are not currently in 
your language dictionary, then using the default "personal" or 
"standard" dictionary file that is used by LO may be the best and 
easiest option.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups

[Ken Springer]

On 9/26/11 8:19 AM, dave boland wrote:

I'm not interested in a web based system -- too slow, reg, req'd., etc.
Make it regular newsgroups like Ubuntu and Mepis.


Dave,

May I suggest you reread about Gmane?

I read my chosen LO lists via the Gmane interface, and I read it as a 
newsgroup in Thunderbird.  It's absolutely no different than when I read 
the Mozilla groups, and eternal-september.org.


I'll send you a screen shot if you'd like some evidence.  :-)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] libreoffice impress can converts from pptx to jpeg multi-page, this is possible?

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On 09/26/2011 05:34 AM, e-letter wrote:

On 25/09/2011, manuel muzzurru  wrote:

hello

i like very libreoffice, thank you team libreoffice!

then i need to ask you,

i hvae pptx convert to jpeg but with multi-page because i have 200 pages, i
did try:
file>export...>save in jpeg>size and quality, etc,>  exported but not all
pages...
how i can convert all page in jpeg?how?

A bit confused by other replies, but export of impress files to html
creates images of each page, in png format.

As Mr/Ms Cohen states, you could use imagemagick to convert the images
to jpeg, but unless the original presentation pages contained
photographic images, it is probably better to keep to png format to
reduce further loss of image quality during the conversion to jpeg.

Also with imagemagick you can change the size of the images using the
command 'resize'.

In your options before it does the exporting, you can change the image 
type to JPG and also change the size of the image.  I do not remember 
about setting the "quality" of the JPG image there, though I know that I 
have software that can save JPG images as a "lossless" type.  If the 
size of the image is too small, you can resize it in many packages, but 
the issue with the "original person" was he had 200 images/slides to 
make into JPG images.


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If he would let us know what the images are for, there may be an easier 
way to convert the presentation for that specific purpose.  I have 
converted one to HTML before for an online version of the presentation.  
I have used images and run an HTML "photo" album software [free] to make 
it work as a slide show with transitions for online use.  That software 
took smaller size images and resized them to be all the same image size 
I chose for the slide presentation.  It all depends on the use.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Real Usenet newsgroups

[Mihamina Rakotomandimby]

On 09/26/2011 05:19 PM, dave boland wrote:

Make it regular newsgroups like Ubuntu and Mepis.


Again, have a look at
http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.user

Ok... Let me explain, as you seem brain dead:

1°) On
http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.user, 
you'll find a link saying: "Using an NNTP newsreader. "


2°) pass you mouse over that link and carefully look at the target URL
nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.user

that means:
- NNTP protocol
- NNTP server: news.gmane.org
- Group name in that server: gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.user

I wish it's clearer... Otherwise, you should tone down and ask for basic 
help on using "internet".


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: In Writer, how can I type characters from the IPA (International Phonetic Alphabet)?

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We had this type of thread before.

Make sure you have a font installed that has the IPA glyphs in it.

Then use Insert>Special Characters.  Choose the IPA font and then the 
IPA subset.  Click on the character[s] you need and click OK.  This will 
place the "special character[s]" in your text at the cursor.


I believe that Arial Unicode has IPA glyphs in it.  Though 
GentiumPlus-1.504, DoulosSIL, and CharisSIL, seems to be IPA fonts.  I 
have them if you do not have these fonts or other font with IPA glyphs.


I do not use many IPA characters, but I have had the need for Spanish 
and French characters such as ñ and ç, that are not on my English keyboard.



On 09/26/2011 06:00 AM, dionysien wrote:

The *I*nternational *P*honetic *A*lphabet is a universal means of
representing the speech sounds of any language. The corresponding chars can
be found under /Phonetic Symbols/ in the list of  http://unicode.org/charts/
Unicode 6.0 Character Code Charts . Although by far not as high that of CJK,
the amount of IPA chars (with combining diacritics) results in a long list
of char (combination)/key combination  mappings. Fortunately, most users
need just a subset of it.
Regards
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Spell check not working

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Just for the sake of trying it to see if this helps;
Have you installed the Language Tool or Linguist extensions?  I use 
these as my defaults.

[http://libreoffice-na.us/English/extensions.html]

I have these installed on an old Compaq Win XP system that I just 
installed 3.4.3 on it.  [It did not have LO on it before.]  My test show 
that when I clicked on the "spell check" icon, it opened the spell 
checking system and worked fine for me.


This is the text listed with the extension on the link above.
[quote]
This award-winning extension is a valuable addition to spell checking in 
multiple languages.  Java must be installed on the computer. For more 
information, visit the English homepage www.languagetool.org.

[unquote]

So if the spell checking does not work.  Try this.  Also, save the 
folder that includes the info on your profile for LO [somewhere else] 
and then delete it.  Then open LO again.  That does some resetting.  If 
the spell checker works then, that would mean your has a bad profile 
file[s].  I know where it is for Ubuntu, but I could not find it in 
Windows without a lot of time in the search.  Also, XP, Vista, and Win7 
seem to have profiles in different places sometimes.  Some Windows user 
may have the exact file/folder name and where it is located.



On 09/26/2011 06:26 AM, STRINGER LEON wrote:

Hi,

I installed LO 3.4.3 (OOO340m1 Build 302) a few weeks ago and I've
just noticed that the spell check (both AutoSpellCheck and
Tools->Spelling and Grammar...) don't work.

For AutoSpellCheck, mispelled words are not underlined.

For Spelling and Grammar I just immediately get a message saying "The
spell check is complete".

I installed LibO_3.4.3_Win_x86_helppack_en-GB and I've re-run the
installer with the repair option but no improvement. (English (UK) is
my default language for documents).

Does anyone have any ideas as to why this isn't working?

I have had previous versions installed if that might be conflicting?

Running on Windows XP SP3.

Thanks,

Leon




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Relational database example help

[dave boland]

Andreas,

You are sooo correct about "messing around"!  That is why good
documentation is so helpful.  I have read the Base guide for LO, and it
was helpful for simple applications, but not so helpful for mine.  The
link you pointed out is new to me, so I will need a few days to digest
it all.  Thank you for your help!!!

Dave,

On Monday, September 26, 2011 4:37 PM, "Andreas Säger"
 wrote:
> Am 26.09.2011 16:26, dave boland wrote:
> > Looks like my net connection went out before this was posted, so this is
> > attempt 2.
> >
> > Dave,
> >
> > On Monday, September 26, 2011 10:14 AM, "dave boland"
> >   wrote:
> >> I have been messing around with Base for a relational application.  The
> >> User Guide mentions the word "relational" twice, but offers no
> >> examples/explanations.  That really needs to be changed.
> >>
> 
> "Messing around" with a database is like doing the same with a 
> programming language. You won't get anywhere.
> 
> > http://openoffice.org/projects/documentation/downloads/directory/Base/Mid%20level%20Base%20tutorial
> 
> First you've got to learn about tables, fields, relations and keys. Then 
> you can use dozends of different databases with Base, Access, php 
> webtools or similar database tools.
> 
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups

[dave boland]

Ken,

I'm sorry -- it looked like a web interface when I went to the page. 
One question -- will I be able to post questions to the NG like I can
with Ubuntu and Mepis?  If I have all of the functionality of a regular
NG, then I'm good to go.  In the mean time, I'l have another look at
Gmane.

Dave,



On Monday, September 26, 2011 8:58 AM, "Ken Springer" 
wrote:
> On 9/26/11 8:19 AM, dave boland wrote:
> > I'm not interested in a web based system -- too slow, reg, req'd., etc.
> > Make it regular newsgroups like Ubuntu and Mepis.
> 
> Dave,
> 
> May I suggest you reread about Gmane?
> 
> I read my chosen LO lists via the Gmane interface, and I read it as a 
> newsgroup in Thunderbird.  It's absolutely no different than when I read 
> the Mozilla groups, and eternal-september.org.
> 
> I'll send you a screen shot if you'd like some evidence.  :-)
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Real Usenet newsgroups

[dave boland]

Ok, enough of the insults.  If your not part of the answer, they you are
part of the problem.  So go back to doing something else so the adults
can have a discussion.

Dave

On Monday, September 26, 2011 6:06 PM, "Mihamina Rakotomandimby"
 wrote:
> On 09/26/2011 05:19 PM, dave boland wrote:
> > Make it regular newsgroups like Ubuntu and Mepis.
> 
> Again, have a look at
> http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.user
> 
> Ok... Let me explain, as you seem brain dead:
> 
> 1°) On
> http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.user, 
> you'll find a link saying: "Using an NNTP newsreader. "
> 
> 2°) pass you mouse over that link and carefully look at the target URL
> nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.user
> 
> that means:
> - NNTP protocol
> - NNTP server: news.gmane.org
> - Group name in that server:
> gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.user
> 
> I wish it's clearer... Otherwise, you should tone down and ask for basic 
> help on using "internet".
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Spell check not working

[Manfred J. Krause]

Hi,

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 12:26 PM, STRINGER LEON wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I installed LO 3.4.3 (OOO340m1 Build 302) a few weeks ago and I've
> just noticed that the spell check (both AutoSpellCheck and
> Tools->Spelling and Grammar...) don't work.
>
> For AutoSpellCheck, mispelled words are not underlined.
>
> For Spelling and Grammar I just immediately get a message saying "The
> spell check is complete".
>
> I installed LibO_3.4.3_Win_x86_helppack_en-GB and I've re-run the
> installer with the repair option but no improvement. (English (UK) is
> my default language for documents).
>
> Does anyone have any ideas as to why this isn't working?
>
> I have had previous versions installed if that might be conflicting?
>
> Running on Windows XP SP3.

I suppose:
Bug 37195 - Dictionary access lost after LibO upgrade
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37195

See also:
spell checking not working in LBO 3.4.3
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/spell-checking-not-working-in-LBO-3-4-3-tt3299202.html#a3302339

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Spell check not working

[webmaster for Kracked Press Productions]

For what OS and what conditions does this "bug" happen?  I did not get 
this when I downloaded/installed LO 3.4.3 yesterday on a "clean install" 
Compaq Win XP system.  But I also add Language Tool and Linguist, plus 
other default extension before I start using LO.  So that may help the 
issue.




On 09/26/2011 11:55 AM, Manfred J. Krause wrote:

Hi,

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 12:26 PM, STRINGER LEON wrote:

Hi,

I installed LO 3.4.3 (OOO340m1 Build 302) a few weeks ago and I've
just noticed that the spell check (both AutoSpellCheck and
Tools->Spelling and Grammar...) don't work.

For AutoSpellCheck, mispelled words are not underlined.

For Spelling and Grammar I just immediately get a message saying "The
spell check is complete".

I installed LibO_3.4.3_Win_x86_helppack_en-GB and I've re-run the
installer with the repair option but no improvement. (English (UK) is
my default language for documents).

Does anyone have any ideas as to why this isn't working?

I have had previous versions installed if that might be conflicting?

Running on Windows XP SP3.

I suppose:
Bug 37195 - Dictionary access lost after LibO upgrade
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37195

See also:
spell checking not working in LBO 3.4.3
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/spell-checking-not-working-in-LBO-3-4-3-tt3299202.html#a3302339

mjk




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Error messages on starting LO

[NoOp]

On 09/26/2011 06:43 AM, Rev. Nick Sharp wrote:
> Whenever I open LibreOffice for the first time, whether it's a Writer,
> Calc, Draw, Impress or Base document, new or existing, I get two error
> messages popping up.
> 
> The first says,
> Error loading BASIC of document
> file:///c:/Users/Nick/AppData/Roaming/LibreOffice/3/user/basic/dialog.xlc:
> General Error.
> General input/output error.
> 
> The second says,
> Error loading BASIC of document
> file:///c:/Users/Nick/AppData/Roaming/LibreOffice/3/user/basic/dialog.xli:
> General Error.
> General input/output error.
> 
> That's identical, except it refers to dialog.xli, not dialog.xlc.
> 
> If I navigate to that location, the folder "basic" does not include a
> file with either name, just one called script.xlc. There are two files
> called dialog.xlb in two subfolders, Library1 and Standard.
> 
> Reinstalling hasn't helped.

That's because these errors typically caused by corrupt files in the
user profile. When you reinstall, the profile is left intact & you're
still using the same corrupt profile as before.

> 
> LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Windows 7 64 bit.

This also happens on linux as well.

Halt LO (including Quickstarter if you have it turned on) and rename:
c:/Users/Nick/AppData/Roaming/LibreOffice/
to
c:/Users/Nick/AppData/Roaming/LibreOffice_backup/

Restart LO and that will create a new profile as:
c:/Users/Nick/AppData/Roaming/LibreOffice/3/user/

Note: by doing that you will have to reset any settings that you had in
your other profile, but you still have the old profile as a backup if
necessary.

Ref:


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Spell check not working

[Manfred J. Krause]

Hi,

please have a look at the bug report (only 91 comments) ... ;)

I think it's principally a Windows bug, especially Win7.
Registering/synchronizing the bundled dictionary extensions is broken,
the user profile (of a previous LibO installation) doesn't get the new
values of the upgraded LibO version.
Mostly *all* language modules are unavailable in 'Tools > Options >
Language Settings > Writing Aids...'.

I've tried a short (by that time still incomplete) summary (based on
WinXP) in comment #24.
With Win7 that seems to be worse.

mjk


On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 6:12 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
>
> For what OS and what conditions does this "bug" happen?  I did not get this
> when I downloaded/installed LO 3.4.3 yesterday on a "clean install" Compaq
> Win XP system.  But I also add Language Tool and Linguist, plus other
> default extension before I start using LO.  So that may help the issue.
>
>
> On 09/26/2011 11:55 AM, Manfred J. Krause wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 12:26 PM, STRINGER LEON wrote:
>>>
>>> I installed LO 3.4.3 (OOO340m1 Build 302) a few weeks ago and I've
>>> just noticed that the spell check (both AutoSpellCheck and
>>> Tools->Spelling and Grammar...) don't work.
>>>
>>> For AutoSpellCheck, mispelled words are not underlined.
>>>
>>> For Spelling and Grammar I just immediately get a message saying "The
>>> spell check is complete".
>>>
>>> I installed LibO_3.4.3_Win_x86_helppack_en-GB and I've re-run the
>>> installer with the repair option but no improvement. (English (UK) is
>>> my default language for documents).
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any ideas as to why this isn't working?
>>>
>>> I have had previous versions installed if that might be conflicting?
>>>
>>> Running on Windows XP SP3.
>>
>> I suppose:
>> Bug 37195 - Dictionary access lost after LibO upgrade
>> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37195
>>
>> See also:
>> spell checking not working in LBO 3.4.3
>>
>> http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/spell-checking-not-working-in-LBO-3-4-3-tt3299202.html#a3302339

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Relational database example help

[Alexander Thurgood]

Le 26/09/11 16:14, dave boland a écrit :

Hi Dave,

You will have to decide which form is going to be your main form, and
then link the others to it via the relations you wish to create. So, for
example :

> The information collected is:
> [Company]
> Company ID.Int...Primary Key
> Company Name...VarChar...Name
> Company AddressVarChar...Address
> Company URLVarChar...URL
>

You could link Company_ID to Company_Name in Client, Contacts and
Selection as a foreign key of these tables.

Then when you design your Client and Contacts form, bind the field
Company_ID to the corresponding Company_ID in the Company table, and
then indicate that what you want displayed in the form as the bound
column is actually Company_Name. The sub-form wizard should enable you
to do that (i.e. when creating Client form, go through the subform
wizard steps to bind to the Company table as well, which in effect
creates a subform within your main form).

You could also set up Contacts as a subform of Clients in the same way,
e.g. as a grid control.

These are of course just suggestions, there are many ways to skin a cat :-))


Alex



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[libreoffice-users] Re: MySQL Native Connector

[Alexander Thurgood]

Le 26/09/11 16:07, Heinrich Stoellinger a écrit :

Hi Heinrich,


> Today I tried to download and then activate the MySQL Native Connector
> you put on
> LO-Extensions. However, I still get the error message
> "loading component library failed.
> file:///home.../.../..32bit.oxt/mysqlc.uno.so."
> Any idea what could be the reason? The only thing I can think of is that
> I use
> LO 3.4.2 (in addition to using a "bleeding-edge" Debian-Wheezy!).


No, I think it is either a build issue with a library version problem,
or possibly a naming issue, I'm looking into it at the moment and will
update the list if I find a solution.


Alex


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Spell check not working

[Spencer Graves]

I had this problem and fixed it after someone on this list directed me 
to something like ">> spell checking not working in LBO 3.4.3

>>
>> 
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/spell-checking-not-working-in-LBO-3-4-3-tt3299202.html#a3302339";. 




  Specifically, I found "path: 
...\LibreOffice\3\user\extensions\bundled" 
("C:\Users\sgraves\AppData\Roaming\LibreOffice\3\user\extensions\bundled" in 
my case).  I renamed "bundled" to "bundled.err".  Then I restarted 
LibreOffice.  After that, I was able to get what I wanted with 
LibreOffice Writer following the documentation to Tools -> Options -> 
Langauge Settings" and Tools -> Language, ... .  It took some 
experimentation, but I (mostly) got what I wanted.



  NOTE:  Windows (Vista and 7, at least) sometimes hides the 
AppData folder, even when it seems to say it's not.  In Windows 
Explorer, type C:\Users\yourUserID\AppData", and it should appear [with 
"yourUserID" replaced by your user ID].



  Hope this helps.
  Spencer


On 9/26/2011 10:05 AM, Manfred J. Krause wrote:

Hi,

please have a look at the bug report (only 91 comments) ... ;)

I think it's principally a Windows bug, especially Win7.
Registering/synchronizing the bundled dictionary extensions is broken,
the user profile (of a previous LibO installation) doesn't get the new
values of the upgraded LibO version.
Mostly *all* language modules are unavailable in 'Tools>  Options>
Language Settings>  Writing Aids...'.

I've tried a short (by that time still incomplete) summary (based on
WinXP) in comment #24.
With Win7 that seems to be worse.

mjk


On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 6:12 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:

For what OS and what conditions does this "bug" happen?  I did not get this
when I downloaded/installed LO 3.4.3 yesterday on a "clean install" Compaq
Win XP system.  But I also add Language Tool and Linguist, plus other
default extension before I start using LO.  So that may help the issue.


On 09/26/2011 11:55 AM, Manfred J. Krause wrote:

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 12:26 PM, STRINGER LEON wrote:

I installed LO 3.4.3 (OOO340m1 Build 302) a few weeks ago and I've
just noticed that the spell check (both AutoSpellCheck and
Tools->Spelling and Grammar...) don't work.

For AutoSpellCheck, mispelled words are not underlined.

For Spelling and Grammar I just immediately get a message saying "The
spell check is complete".

I installed LibO_3.4.3_Win_x86_helppack_en-GB and I've re-run the
installer with the repair option but no improvement. (English (UK) is
my default language for documents).

Does anyone have any ideas as to why this isn't working?

I have had previous versions installed if that might be conflicting?

Running on Windows XP SP3.

I suppose:
Bug 37195 - Dictionary access lost after LibO upgrade
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37195

See also:
spell checking not working in LBO 3.4.3

http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/spell-checking-not-working-in-LBO-3-4-3-tt3299202.html#a3302339



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[libreoffice-users] Re: MySQL Native Connector

[Alexander Thurgood]

Le 18/09/11 20:09, Heinrich Stoellinger a écrit :

Hi Heinrich,

Do you have pyuno (python-uno component loader) installed by any chance?


Alex


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups

[Ken Springer]

On 9/26/11 9:47 AM, dave boland wrote:

Ken,

I'm sorry -- it looked like a web interface when I went to the page.
One question -- will I be able to post questions to the NG like I can
with Ubuntu and Mepis?  If I have all of the functionality of a regular
NG, then I'm good to go.  In the mean time, I'l have another look at
Gmane.


No apology necessary, Dave, I've misinterpreted/misread so many things 
in my life!   LOL


The answer is yes, you can post.  That's how I do it.

But, I do find the overall instructions via both LO and Gmane to be 
confusing, at least it was to me.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups

[Stefan Gruber]

+1

Stefan Gruber


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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO updates for Ubuntu 10.04

[Tom]

Hi :)
The 3.3.2 has fairly long term support so there is no problem with staying
with it.  The newer features are mostly in the 3.4.x branch but then that
tends not to have the stability/support and might need upgrading much more
often.  The 3.4.3 apparently gives the best of both but like you i'm
sticking with the 3.3.2 for now.  You can install by downloading and
installing outside of your package manager .

You can have 2 or more instances of LibreOffice installed on the same
machine but this guide helps avoid the problems that are likely to arise
with that.
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel
Regards from
Tom :)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Real Usenet newsgroups

[James Wilde]

Well, there's a slight snag here, due to be solved real soon now.  As I 
understand it, the mailing list program used by libreoffice in its present 
version can not accept unmoderated posts sent via gmane unless the sender is 
also registered with libreoffice.  Also as I understand it, this is due to 
change in an upcoming version of the mailing list program.

This means you have two choices at present.

1. You can register with the libo mailing list using the -nomail parameter.  
This means that your posts via gmane get right through the system, but you 
don't get any emails.  You read the newsgroup in your nntp reader.  To use this 
option send an email from the same email account you registered with gmane to 
+subscribe-nom...@global.libreoffice.org.  Reply to the resulting 
email and you're done.  Listname for the users list is, of course, users.

2. You don't register with the libo mailing list, which means that, until the 
list manager is updated, your posts will come to one of the moderators to be 
approved before getting on the list.  Normally this seems to result in a delay 
to be reckoned in minutes rather than hours.

HTH

//James
One of the moderators

On Sep 26, 2011, at 17:47 , dave boland wrote:

> Ken,
> 
> I'm sorry -- it looked like a web interface when I went to the page. 
> One question -- will I be able to post questions to the NG like I can
> with Ubuntu and Mepis?  If I have all of the functionality of a regular
> NG, then I'm good to go.  In the mean time, I'l have another look at
> Gmane.
> 
> Dave,
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, September 26, 2011 8:58 AM, "Ken Springer" 
> wrote:
>> On 9/26/11 8:19 AM, dave boland wrote:
>>> I'm not interested in a web based system -- too slow, reg, req'd., etc.
>>> Make it regular newsgroups like Ubuntu and Mepis.
>> 
>> Dave,
>> 
>> May I suggest you reread about Gmane?
>> 
>> I read my chosen LO lists via the Gmane interface, and I read it as a 
>> newsgroup in Thunderbird.  It's absolutely no different than when I read 
>> the Mozilla groups, and eternal-september.org.
>> 
>> I'll send you a screen shot if you'd like some evidence.  :-)
>> 
>> -- 
>> Ken
>> 
>> Mac OS X 10.6.8
>> Firefox 6.0.2
>> Thunderbird 6.0.2
>> LibreOffice 3.3.3
>> 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Error messages on starting LO

[Rev. Nick Sharp]

Thanks - that did the trick.

N

On 26 September 2011 17:21, NoOp  wrote:
> On 09/26/2011 06:43 AM, Rev. Nick Sharp wrote:
>> Whenever I open LibreOffice for the first time, whether it's a Writer,
>> Calc, Draw, Impress or Base document, new or existing, I get two error
>> messages popping up.
>>
>> The first says,
>> Error loading BASIC of document
>> file:///c:/Users/Nick/AppData/Roaming/LibreOffice/3/user/basic/dialog.xlc:
>> General Error.
>> General input/output error.
>>
>> The second says,
>> Error loading BASIC of document
>> file:///c:/Users/Nick/AppData/Roaming/LibreOffice/3/user/basic/dialog.xli:
>> General Error.
>> General input/output error.
>>
>> That's identical, except it refers to dialog.xli, not dialog.xlc.
>>
>> If I navigate to that location, the folder "basic" does not include a
>> file with either name, just one called script.xlc. There are two files
>> called dialog.xlb in two subfolders, Library1 and Standard.
>>
>> Reinstalling hasn't helped.
>
> That's because these errors typically caused by corrupt files in the
> user profile. When you reinstall, the profile is left intact & you're
> still using the same corrupt profile as before.
>
>>
>> LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Windows 7 64 bit.
>
> This also happens on linux as well.
>
> Halt LO (including Quickstarter if you have it turned on) and rename:
> c:/Users/Nick/AppData/Roaming/LibreOffice/
> to
> c:/Users/Nick/AppData/Roaming/LibreOffice_backup/
>
> Restart LO and that will create a new profile as:
> c:/Users/Nick/AppData/Roaming/LibreOffice/3/user/
>
> Note: by doing that you will have to reset any settings that you had in
> your other profile, but you still have the old profile as a backup if
> necessary.
>
> Ref:
> 
>
> ...
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Re: [libreoffice-users] preservation of views and personal settings

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Once you have 1 machine set-up right (or at least "good enough") then you can 
usefully copy&paste the entire user-profile onto other machines, even across 
different platforms!  

I copied the whole ".libreoffice" folder to usb-stick and onto the network and 
then pasted it to several different machines.  It seemed to work but i didn't 
dig around much.

I'm sure there is a more elegant way and i'm sure there is a more efficient way 
of doing something similar.  
Regards from
Tom :)


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Date: Monday, 26 September, 2011, 15:25

Readers,

A couple of annoying interface behaviours: personal toolbar
preferences (e.g. visible 'load url bar') and in impress, to be able
to disable the view of the task bar.

Is there an obscure settings file that can be accessed and copied for
new installations of LO? Personalising each computer after LO is
installed is a bit repetitive.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: MySQL Native Connector

[Tom]

Hi :)
Thanks for the flowers but it's Alex that has been doing all the work on
this.  It's an interesting topic and it would be great to have the connector
available for download or perhaps even better might be to have simple
instructions available so that non-programmers (like me) can build it easily
on their own system.  
Regards from
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[libreoffice-users] Formula not working in new version

[mattlokk]

I recently re-formatted my drive, and when i re-installed Libre Office (v
3.4.3) it is no longer evaluating my formulas.  Well... some formulas work,
but something very simple like: =SUM(D3 + A4 - B4) no longer works for me. 
Maybe I should just go back to v 3.3.4

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Relational database example help

[dave boland]

Thanks Alex.  I was unaware of form binding.  This may be a great answer
for this situation.

Dave,

On Monday, September 26, 2011 7:29 PM, "Alexander Thurgood"
 wrote:
> Le 26/09/11 16:14, dave boland a écrit :
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> You will have to decide which form is going to be your main form, and
> then link the others to it via the relations you wish to create. So, for
> example :
> 
> > The information collected is:
> > [Company]
> > Company ID.Int...Primary Key
> > Company Name...VarChar...Name
> > Company AddressVarChar...Address
> > Company URLVarChar...URL
> >
> 
> You could link Company_ID to Company_Name in Client, Contacts and
> Selection as a foreign key of these tables.
> 
> Then when you design your Client and Contacts form, bind the field
> Company_ID to the corresponding Company_ID in the Company table, and
> then indicate that what you want displayed in the form as the bound
> column is actually Company_Name. The sub-form wizard should enable you
> to do that (i.e. when creating Client form, go through the subform
> wizard steps to bind to the Company table as well, which in effect
> creates a subform within your main form).
> 
> You could also set up Contacts as a subform of Clients in the same way,
> e.g. as a grid control.
> 
> These are of course just suggestions, there are many ways to skin a cat
> :-))
> 
> 
> Alex
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO updates for Ubuntu 10.04

[dave boland]

Tom,

Thanks for the note.  I was concerned that the Ubuntu Update Manager
never seems to have LO updates.  I like to stay current, but I also want
to stay stable.  So I'll wait and hopefully when things are sorted out
there will be an update.

Dave,

On Monday, September 26, 2011 11:15 AM, "Tom" 
wrote:
> Hi :)
> The 3.3.2 has fairly long term support so there is no problem with
> staying
> with it.  The newer features are mostly in the 3.4.x branch but then that
> tends not to have the stability/support and might need upgrading much
> more
> often.  The 3.4.3 apparently gives the best of both but like you i'm
> sticking with the 3.3.2 for now.  You can install by downloading and
> installing outside of your package manager .
> 
> You can have 2 or more instances of LibreOffice installed on the same
> machine but this guide helps avoid the problems that are likely to arise
> with that.
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel
> Regards from
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Real Usenet newsgroups

[dave boland]

James,

Thanks for the very clear post on the subject.  I have no problem with a
delay of minutes to an hour -- nothing is so important it can't wait a
few minutes.  So, I'll not change anything for now.

Instead, I'll try to figure out this gmane thing.  I've been subscribed
to:
gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.documentation

for a few months, but there are never any updates to it, so something
needs to get fixed.

Dave,



On Monday, September 26, 2011 8:19 PM, "James Wilde"
 wrote:
> Well, there's a slight snag here, due to be solved real soon now.  As I
> understand it, the mailing list program used by libreoffice in its
> present version can not accept unmoderated posts sent via gmane unless
> the sender is also registered with libreoffice.  Also as I understand it,
> this is due to change in an upcoming version of the mailing list program.
> 
> This means you have two choices at present.
> 
> 1. You can register with the libo mailing list using the -nomail
> parameter.  This means that your posts via gmane get right through the
> system, but you don't get any emails.  You read the newsgroup in your
> nntp reader.  To use this option send an email from the same email
> account you registered with gmane to
> +subscribe-nom...@global.libreoffice.org.  Reply to the
> resulting email and you're done.  Listname for the users list is, of
> course, users.
> 
> 2. You don't register with the libo mailing list, which means that, until
> the list manager is updated, your posts will come to one of the
> moderators to be approved before getting on the list.  Normally this
> seems to result in a delay to be reckoned in minutes rather than hours.
> 
> HTH
> 
> //James
> One of the moderators
> 
> On Sep 26, 2011, at 17:47 , dave boland wrote:
> 
> > Ken,
> > 
> > I'm sorry -- it looked like a web interface when I went to the page. 
> > One question -- will I be able to post questions to the NG like I can
> > with Ubuntu and Mepis?  If I have all of the functionality of a regular
> > NG, then I'm good to go.  In the mean time, I'l have another look at
> > Gmane.
> > 
> > Dave,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Monday, September 26, 2011 8:58 AM, "Ken Springer" 
> > wrote:
> >> On 9/26/11 8:19 AM, dave boland wrote:
> >>> I'm not interested in a web based system -- too slow, reg, req'd., etc.
> >>> Make it regular newsgroups like Ubuntu and Mepis.
> >> 
> >> Dave,
> >> 
> >> May I suggest you reread about Gmane?
> >> 
> >> I read my chosen LO lists via the Gmane interface, and I read it as a 
> >> newsgroup in Thunderbird.  It's absolutely no different than when I read 
> >> the Mozilla groups, and eternal-september.org.
> >> 
> >> I'll send you a screen shot if you'd like some evidence.  :-)
> >> 
> >> -- 
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> >> 
> >> Mac OS X 10.6.8
> >> Firefox 6.0.2
> >> Thunderbird 6.0.2
> >> LibreOffice 3.3.3
> >> 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups

[Ken Springer]

On 9/26/11 1:16 PM, dave boland wrote:

Instead, I'll try to figure out this gmane thing.  I've been subscribed
to:
gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.documentation

for a few months, but there are never any updates to it, so something
needs to get fixed.


A short time back, the email addresses for the mailing lists were 
changed, and there were acknowledged problems.  Eventually, I had to 
completely redo my settings with both LO and Gmane to get everything 
working.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Formula not working in new version

[Cor Nouws]

Hi Mattlokk,

mattlokk wrote (26-09-11 20:09)

I recently re-formatted my drive, and when i re-installed Libre Office (v
3.4.3) it is no longer evaluating my formulas.  Well... some formulas work,
but something very simple like: =SUM(D3 + A4 - B4) no longer works for me.


Simply works correct for me on LibreOffice 3.4.3 and a recent build from 
master (development is taking place there).


Could you pls post a simple test file to my email address?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: percentage to get number in Calc

[Steve Edmonds]

On 26/09/11 23:25, Andreas Säger wrote:
> Am 26.09.2011 05:58, Steve Edmonds wrote:
>> Hi. A spreadsheet is a different way of working. At school we would have
>> learned 556.85 /646.15*100 to calculate the percentage but formatting in
>> the spreadsheet as a percentage saves multiplying by 100.
>> steve
>>
>
> But 86.17968 is wrong. 86.17968 does not reflect the relation between
> the 2 numbers which is 0.8617968.
>
I agree if spread sheet formatting is used. The proportion or ratio is
0.8617968, the percentage is 86.17968. If you were calculating the
percentage using a pencil and paper you would use 556.85 /646.15*100. 
If I want to perform another calculation in another cell, such as the
percentage calculated above-5%, I have to be careful.
If
A1 = 646.15
A2 = 556.85
A4 = A2/A1 format as %
A5 = A4-5 is wrong. (very simple example)

Sometimes it can just be simpler to calculate the percentage and work in
% for subsequent operations than to calculate and format as %.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups

[dave boland]

This is why I   r e a l l y   think that it is time to go to regular
newsgroups -- a lot less fussing for the user.

I have been on the gmane sight twice, and I still don't see how to
subscribe.  It is not worth the bother!

Spam aside, what are the objections to regular newsgroups?  It just
seems like it is the right thing to do at the right time to do it.

Dave,



On Monday, September 26, 2011 1:24 PM, "Ken Springer" 
wrote:
> On 9/26/11 1:16 PM, dave boland wrote:
> > Instead, I'll try to figure out this gmane thing.  I've been subscribed
> > to:
> > gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.documentation
> >
> > for a few months, but there are never any updates to it, so something
> > needs to get fixed.
> 
> A short time back, the email addresses for the mailing lists were 
> changed, and there were acknowledged problems.  Eventually, I had to 
> completely redo my settings with both LO and Gmane to get everything 
> working.
> 
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> 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups

[jomali]

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 3:38 PM, dave boland  wrote:

> This is why I   r e a l l y   think that it is time to go to regular
> newsgroups -- a lot less fussing for the user.
>
> I have been on the gmane sight twice, and I still don't see how to
> subscribe.  It is not worth the bother!
>
> Spam aside, what are the objections to regular newsgroups?  It just
> seems like it is the right thing to do at the right time to do it.
>

Absolutely not. I receive and read the e-mail messages and find them very
useful. Like many others on this list, I dislike newsgroups and forums
(fora?). If you like newsgroups, stick to gMane.

jomail


>
> Dave,
>
>
>
> On Monday, September 26, 2011 1:24 PM, "Ken Springer" 
> wrote:
> > On 9/26/11 1:16 PM, dave boland wrote:
> > > Instead, I'll try to figure out this gmane thing.  I've been subscribed
> > > to:
> > > gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.documentation
> > >
> > > for a few months, but there are never any updates to it, so something
> > > needs to get fixed.
> >
> > A short time back, the email addresses for the mailing lists were
> > changed, and there were acknowledged problems.  Eventually, I had to
> > completely redo my settings with both LO and Gmane to get everything
> > working.
> >
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Two dictionary questions

[Cor Nouws]

Hi Jeremy,

Jeremy J. Shapiro wrote (26-09-11 06:05)

1) What path do the dictionaries need to be locate such that LibreOffice
will consult them and enable one to add words to them?


Apart from what others told, you can have personal word lists.
See Tools > OPtions > Language settings > Writing aids.
Those are placed in your LibreOffice user profile
(For the path, see Tools > OPtions > General > Paths...)


2) Is there a way to get LibreOffice to consult more than one dictionary
for a text that has sections in or words from two (or more) different
languages?


You can set the language for various parts of your text,
Either via styles (F11, tab Font of a style), either direct (Tools > 
Language > ..)


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: percentage to get number in Calc

[Brian Barker]

At 08:35 27/09/2011 +1300, Steve Edmonds wrote:
If I want to perform another calculation in another cell, such as 
the percentage calculated above-5%, I have to be careful. If

A1 = 646.15
A2 = 556.85
A4 = A2/A1 format as %
A5 = A4-5 is wrong. (very simple example)


Quite so.  But =A4-5% is right!  (Er, provided you mean 5% of the 
original, not 5% of the first answer.)


Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MySQL Native Connector

[Heinrich Stoellinger]

HI Alex,
aptitude tells me that I have libobasis3.4-pyuno installed.
regards
Heinrich

On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 19:39:23 +0200, Alexander Thurgood 
 wrote:


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups

[Ken Springer]

On 9/26/11 1:38 PM, dave boland wrote:

This is why I   r e a l l y   think that it is time to go to regular
newsgroups -- a lot less fussing for the user.


I see no difference between using Gmane and any other newsgroup, once 
it's set up.  It's just that the instructions on how to do it are crappy 
at best.  And LO can't do anything about Gmane's instructions.



I have been on the gmane sight twice, and I still don't see how to
subscribe.  It is not worth the bother!


I *think* I see the problem.  You may have some things mixed up, 
resulting in you trying to do the impossible.


I'd like to explain this here, in the list, but I'm not sure the "how to 
do it" would be appropriate for the thread.  I'd also like to be able to 
include some screenshots, but since the list is text only, I can't do 
that either.  And, it would be lengthy, if you want me to do a good job. 
 :-)


I'd like to get some feedback on the legitimacy of posting the 
instructions here.  Maybe something from a moderator would be nice.  :-)


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups

[drew]

On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 15:25 -0600, Ken Springer wrote:
> On 9/26/11 1:38 PM, dave boland wrote:
> > This is why I   r e a l l y   think that it is time to go to regular
> > newsgroups -- a lot less fussing for the user.
> 
> I see no difference between using Gmane and any other newsgroup, once 
> it's set up.  It's just that the instructions on how to do it are crappy 
> at best.  And LO can't do anything about Gmane's instructions.
> 
> > I have been on the gmane sight twice, and I still don't see how to
> > subscribe.  It is not worth the bother!
> 
> I *think* I see the problem.  You may have some things mixed up, 
> resulting in you trying to do the impossible.
> 
> I'd like to explain this here, in the list, but I'm not sure the "how to 
> do it" would be appropriate for the thread.  I'd also like to be able to 
> include some screenshots, but since the list is text only, I can't do 
> that either.  And, it would be lengthy, if you want me to do a good job. 
>   :-)
> 
> I'd like to get some feedback on the legitimacy of posting the 
> instructions here.  Maybe something from a moderator would be nice.  :-)

Well, just a thought - create the instructions with screenshots on the
wiki and then just post a link to the page here...?

//drew


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups

[Ken Springer]

On 9/26/11 3:32 PM, drew wrote:

On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 15:25 -0600, Ken Springer wrote:



I'd like to get some feedback on the legitimacy of posting the
instructions here.  Maybe something from a moderator would be nice.  :-)


Well, just a thought - create the instructions with screenshots on the
wiki and then just post a link to the page here...?


I've actually never been to the wiki!LOLSo, I'm not sure I'd 
want to tackle that idea right now.  :-)


I *am* sure that if did something like that, I'd want to be more 
professional looking, sounding, and somewhat looking like other items on 
the wiki.


And that would probably take more time than what I was going to do for Dave.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: percentage to get number in Calc

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
True.  It's good to have options to suit different circumstances ;)  
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Mon, 26/9/11, Steve Edmonds  wrote:

From: Steve Edmonds 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: percentage to get number in Calc
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 26 September, 2011, 20:35



On 26/09/11 23:25, Andreas Säger wrote:
> Am 26.09.2011 05:58, Steve Edmonds wrote:
>> Hi. A spreadsheet is a different way of working. At school we would have
>> learned 556.85 /646.15*100 to calculate the percentage but formatting in
>> the spreadsheet as a percentage saves multiplying by 100.
>> steve
>>
>
> But 86.17968 is wrong. 86.17968 does not reflect the relation between
> the 2 numbers which is 0.8617968.
>
I agree if spread sheet formatting is used. The proportion or ratio is
0.8617968, the percentage is 86.17968. If you were calculating the
percentage using a pencil and paper you would use 556.85 /646.15*100. 
If I want to perform another calculation in another cell, such as the
percentage calculated above-5%, I have to be careful.
If
A1 = 646.15
A2 = 556.85
A4 = A2/A1 format as %
A5 = A4-5 is wrong. (very simple example)

Sometimes it can just be simpler to calculate the percentage and work in
% for subsequent operations than to calculate and format as %.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: LO updates for Ubuntu 10.04

[Tom]

Hi :)
I'm not expecting any up-dates tbh.  LibreOffice does full upgrades rather
than minor updates because it develops so fast.  Is there a particular
problem that you are waiting for a fix for?

People in the documentation team tend to download the "upstream" version
from the web-site
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/
to help make sure screen-shots are consistent across different distros.  The
instructions for how to install on gnu&linux are just being up-dated but it
might be a week before the proof-reading and uploading gets done.  I think
the current instructions are good enough to work out.  
Regards from
Tom :) 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO updates for Ubuntu 10.04

[webmaster for Kracked Press Productions]

Are you running 32 or 64 bit version of Ubuntu?  Desktop or laptop?  
Does not really matter, but it would be nice to know.


I use Ubuntu 10.04, 64-bit, as my default desktop.  I run 3.4.1 right 
now, but will be going to 3.4.3 soon.  I just download the files I need 
from LO and install it using the terminal.  There is an easy to use set 
of instructions on the LO site.  It takes a few minutes to download the 
files with broadband.  Then I extract them.  I rename the main folder to 
ease my typing needs.  Then I use the "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" command in 
the DEBS folder, and then again in the sub-folder there.  I do the same 
for the help-pack I use.  Take maybe 5 minutes after the download is 
completed.


This is the link to the install instructions using the Terminal
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/installation/linux/
If you do not know where it is, go to Applications>Accessories.

Is there any reason that you cannot do this on your system?  Some people 
have trouble using Terminal, but it gets easier the more you use it.  I 
never used Terminal till I stated using Ubuntu [9.x] early last year.  
Then 10.04 came out and I went to it.  My monitor has issues with 11.04, 
so I have not updated to it yet.


On some of the systems I have dealt with for myself and mostly for 
others, I placed 3.3.3 and then 3.3.4 on them.  My default laptop 
dual-boots with Vista and Ubuntu 10.04.  Windows I have 3.3.3 on it, 
while I have 3.4.1 on the Ubuntu boot.  I have not updated either, since 
I rarely use the laptop, and do not have the time to update the laptop 
with all the updates that are out there for my used free software.


Sometime soon, I will be going to 3.4.3 on my 64-bit Ubuntu 10.04 
desktop.  When I get a better monitor, I will be upgrading to 11.x for 
that desktop.  The 3.3.x line looks to end with 3.3.5 which will be 
"supported" for at least another year after that.  When the 3.3.x line 
ends the 3.5.x line will begin, and 3.4.x will be what 3.3.x is now and 
3.5.x will be the "cutting edge" line.  Soon 3.4.x will be ready for 
business use.  The sporadic spell checker issue for Windows that has 
cropped up hopefully be fixed by then.  Since I not have 3.4.3 installed 
on XP and do not have any issues with the spell checker, it seems not to 
be a bug that effects the greater percentage than those it does not 
cause problem with.


So, if you want to go to 3.4.3 on your Ubuntu machine, go for it.  After 
the download, it take little time and only a few commands in Terminal.



On 09/26/2011 02:15 PM, Tom wrote:

Hi :)
The 3.3.2 has fairly long term support so there is no problem with staying
with it.  The newer features are mostly in the 3.4.x branch but then that
tends not to have the stability/support and might need upgrading much more
often.  The 3.4.3 apparently gives the best of both but like you i'm
sticking with the 3.3.2 for now.  You can install by downloading and
installing outside of your package manager .

You can have 2 or more instances of LibreOffice installed on the same
machine but this guide helps avoid the problems that are likely to arise
with that.
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel
Regards from
Tom :)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] percentage to get number in Calc

[planas]

On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 10:54 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: 

> Hi :)
> Hmm, i know BODMAS 'should' calculate that correctly but it's possible that a 
> program or the person typing it in might incorrectly read an equation like 
> that as 
> = 556.85 / (646.15*100)
> Also any further calculations done using the correct percentage would have to 
> remember to divide by 100 which could become cumbersome.  
> 
> It is good to know of different ways of handling a problem in case one way is 
> troublesome for some reason that wasn't (or couldn't) be stated earlier in a 
> thread.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
> 
> --- On Mon, 26/9/11, Steve Edmonds  wrote:
> 
> From: Steve Edmonds 
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] percentage to get number in Calc
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Monday, 26 September, 2011, 4:58
> 
> Hi. A spreadsheet is a different way of working. At school we would have
> learned 556.85 /646.15*100 to calculate the percentage but formatting in
> the spreadsheet as a percentage saves multiplying by 100.
> steve
> 
> On 2011-09-26 16:49, James wrote:
> > On 09/25/11 23:10, Tom Davies wrote:
> >> Hi :)
> >> Ok, say the numbers are written along the top row such that
> >>
> >> A1 = 646.15
> >> A2 = 556.85
> >>
> >> then
> >>
> >> A4 = A2/A1
> >>
> >> Click on A4 and go up to the menus at the top to choose
> >>
> >> Format - Cell - Number
> >> in the first box "Category" select "Percentage"
> >>
> >> I think it's better to avoid keying in the currency symbol and just
> >> format those cells as "Currency" instead of as "Percentages".  That
> >> way you still get the currency symbol anyway but don't have to type
> >> it in.  It also avoids confusions.  Note that i left a gap between
> >> the data and the calculation purely because i think it looks nicer.
> > Thanks for the solution.
> > I feel stupid for making it seem hard. :-)
> >>  
> >> Regards from
> >> Tom :)
> >>

The problem with percentages, we are lacking the context. Is it an
intermediate value or the final value? And is the end user the same as
the person crunching the numbers? And finally, what is the best way to
display the data? There is no absolutely correct answer that works in
every situation. Sometimes it is more convenient to display the values
with the % sign and in other cases it may be better to display the
percent value without the % sign after each number.


> >>
> >> --- On Mon, 26/9/11, James  wrote:
> >>
> >> From: James
> >> Subject: [libreoffice-users] percentage to get number in Calc
> >> To: "libreoffice-users Mailing List"
> >> Date: Monday, 26 September, 2011, 3:46
> >>
> >> I have a number $646.15
> >> and a number $556.85
> >> How do I make a formula in a new cell that is the percentage of the
> >> first number that equals the second number?
> >>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Real Usenet newsgroups

[planas]

On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 10:19 -0400, dave boland wrote: 

> I'm not interested in a web based system -- too slow, reg, req'd., etc. 
> Make it regular newsgroups like Ubuntu and Mepis.
> 
> Dave,
> 
> 

+1, I even download my gmail using a pop connection. 

> 
> On Monday, September 26, 2011 4:55 PM, "Mihamina Rakotomandimby"
>  wrote:
> > On 09/26/2011 04:25 PM, dave boland wrote:
> > > I would like to request that LO get real newsgroups like Ubuntu
> > > (alt.os.linux.ubuntu) and MEPIS (alt.os.linux.mepis) have.
> > 
> > Have you heard about Gmane?
> > You can have this list as newgroup with this.
> > http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.user
> > 
> > So what? ;-)
> > 
> > -- 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups

[planas]

On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 15:50 -0400, jomali wrote: 

> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 3:38 PM, dave boland  wrote:
> 
> > This is why I   r e a l l y   think that it is time to go to regular
> > newsgroups -- a lot less fussing for the user.
> >
> > I have been on the gmane sight twice, and I still don't see how to
> > subscribe.  It is not worth the bother!
> >
> > Spam aside, what are the objections to regular newsgroups?  It just
> > seems like it is the right thing to do at the right time to do it.
> >
> 
> Absolutely not. I receive and read the e-mail messages and find them very
> useful. Like many others on this list, I dislike newsgroups and forums
> (fora?). If you like newsgroups, stick to gMane.
> 
> jomail

pl of forum in Latin is fori, you are thinking of forae, which is the
genitive/plural ending for feminine nouns (usually end -a) and -um nouns
are usually neuter. (If I remember my Latin from way back in the Dark
Ages LOL) 

> 
> >
> > Dave,
> >
> >
> >
> > On Monday, September 26, 2011 1:24 PM, "Ken Springer" 
> > wrote:
> > > On 9/26/11 1:16 PM, dave boland wrote:
> > > > Instead, I'll try to figure out this gmane thing.  I've been subscribed
> > > > to:
> > > > gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.documentation
> > > >
> > > > for a few months, but there are never any updates to it, so something
> > > > needs to get fixed.
> > >
> > > A short time back, the email addresses for the mailing lists were
> > > changed, and there were acknowledged problems.  Eventually, I had to
> > > completely redo my settings with both LO and Gmane to get everything
> > > working.
> > >
> > > --
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> > >
> > > Mac OS X 10.6.8
> > > Firefox 6.0.2
> > > Thunderbird 6.0.2
> > > LibreOffice 3.3.3
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> >
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> >
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: percentage to get number in Calc

[Cliff Scott]

** Reply to message from Tom Davies  on Mon, 26 Sep
2011 13:58:52 +0100 (BST)

It depends on what the user wants in the cell. If he wants the actual
percentage then use proper mathematical notation and write it as
(556.85/646.15)*100. That way there is no ambiguity for people or the
processor. If, however, since the percentage is used in calculations then
leave it as 556.85/646.15 and just change the cell format to percentage. That
will display the actual percentage as 86.xx, but leave the value for
calculations as .86xx.

Cliff

> Hi :)
> It's not really wrong but there needs to be some indication that it is a
> percentage figure.  The original numbers don't really warrant more than 2
> decimal places.  Another way of removing problems with ambiguity would be to
> write the equation as
> = 556.85 * 100 / 646.15
> Then it doesn't matter if  (100/646.15) is calculated first or the (556.85 *
> 100), either way the answer is about the same, hopefully exactly the same.  
> Regards from
> Tom :)
> 
> 
> --- On Mon, 26/9/11, Andreas Säger  wrote:
> 
> From: Andreas Säger 
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: percentage to get number in Calc
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Monday, 26 September, 2011, 11:25
> 
> Am 26.09.2011 05:58, Steve Edmonds wrote:
> > Hi. A spreadsheet is a different way of working. At school we would have
> > learned 556.85 /646.15*100 to calculate the percentage but formatting in
> > the spreadsheet as a percentage saves multiplying by 100.
> > steve
> > 
> 
> But 86.17968 is wrong. 86.17968 does not reflect the relation between the 2 
> numbers which is 0.8617968.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO updates for Ubuntu 10.04

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
I think the original poster was just curious why there haven't been any updates 
but i'm not entirely certain.  A lot of people prefer to stay with the repos 
and rarely even use ppas let alone installing directly from unfamiliar 
websites.  

It's good to have the choice :)  I'm happily staying with the 3.3.2 in the ppa 
:)
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Tue, 27/9/11, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions 
 wrote:

From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO updates for Ubuntu 10.04
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 27 September, 2011, 0:50


Are you running 32 or 64 bit version of Ubuntu?  Desktop or laptop?  Does not 
really matter, but it would be nice to know.

I use Ubuntu 10.04, 64-bit, as my default desktop.  I run 3.4.1 right now, but 
will be going to 3.4.3 soon.  I just download the files I need from LO and 
install it using the terminal.  There is an easy to use set of instructions on 
the LO site.  It takes a few minutes to download the files with broadband.  
Then I extract them.  I rename the main folder to ease my typing needs.  Then I 
use the "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" command in the DEBS folder, and then again in the 
sub-folder there.  I do the same for the help-pack I use.  Take maybe 5 minutes 
after the download is completed.

This is the link to the install instructions using the Terminal
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/installation/linux/
If you do not know where it is, go to Applications>Accessories.

Is there any reason that you cannot do this on your system?  Some people have 
trouble using Terminal, but it gets easier the more you use it.  I never used 
Terminal till I stated using Ubuntu [9.x] early last year.  Then 10.04 came out 
and I went to it.  My monitor has issues with 11.04, so I have not updated to 
it yet.

On some of the systems I have dealt with for myself and mostly for others, I 
placed 3.3.3 and then 3.3.4 on them.  My default laptop dual-boots with Vista 
and Ubuntu 10.04.  Windows I have 3.3.3 on it, while I have 3.4.1 on the Ubuntu 
boot.  I have not updated either, since I rarely use the laptop, and do not 
have the time to update the laptop with all the updates that are out there for 
my used free software.

Sometime soon, I will be going to 3.4.3 on my 64-bit Ubuntu 10.04 desktop.  
When I get a better monitor, I will be upgrading to 11.x for that desktop.  The 
3.3.x line looks to end with 3.3.5 which will be "supported" for at least 
another year after that.  When the 3.3.x line ends the 3.5.x line will begin, 
and 3.4.x will be what 3.3.x is now and 3.5.x will be the "cutting edge" line.  
Soon 3.4.x will be ready for business use.  The sporadic spell checker issue 
for Windows that has cropped up hopefully be fixed by then.  Since I not have 
3.4.3 installed on XP and do not have any issues with the spell checker, it 
seems not to be a bug that effects the greater percentage than those it does 
not cause problem with.

So, if you want to go to 3.4.3 on your Ubuntu machine, go for it.  After the 
download, it take little time and only a few commands in Terminal.


On 09/26/2011 02:15 PM, Tom wrote:
> Hi :)
> The 3.3.2 has fairly long term support so there is no problem with staying
> with it.  The newer features are mostly in the 3.4.x branch but then that
> tends not to have the stability/support and might need upgrading much more
> often.  The 3.4.3 apparently gives the best of both but like you i'm
> sticking with the 3.3.2 for now.  You can install by downloading and
> installing outside of your package manager .
> 
> You can have 2 or more instances of LibreOffice installed on the same
> machine but this guide helps avoid the problems that are likely to arise
> with that.
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel
> Regards from
> Tom :)
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
The home page is
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Main_Page

The Documentation pages don't yet have an area like the "Community 
Documentation" for Ubuntu or other distros but i guess we could go that way.  

If you do a rough draft of a wiki-page then hopefully other people would tidy 
it up and give it a more professional look later on.  The whole idea is that 
pages are worked on collaboratively, ie people add and change bits or even 
shift the page to somewhere more appropriate later.  the rough draft would be 
enough to help with this particular question this time and then just see if 
people help with editing later :)
Regards from
Tom :)


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From: Ken Springer 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 26 September, 2011, 23:21

On 9/26/11 3:32 PM, drew wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 15:25 -0600, Ken Springer wrote:

>> I'd like to get some feedback on the legitimacy of posting the
>> instructions here.  Maybe something from a moderator would be nice.  :-)
> 
> Well, just a thought - create the instructions with screenshots on the
> wiki and then just post a link to the page here...?

I've actually never been to the wiki!    LOL    So, I'm not sure I'd want to 
tackle that idea right now.  :-)

I *am* sure that if did something like that, I'd want to be more professional 
looking, sounding, and somewhat looking like other items on the wiki.

And that would probably take more time than what I was going to do for Dave.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO updates for Ubuntu 10.04

[webmaster for Kracked Press Productions]

I do not use PPAs.  I either get from the repositories from Ubuntu or 
from the software's site.  I have only about 3 or 4 packages, other than 
LO, that I use that are not either in the Ubuntu repositories anymore, 
or never was there in the first place.


The fact that packages like LO are updating every few months makes it 
one that the repositories may never want to try to keep up and modify 
their repositories every time the package comes out with an update or 
upgrade.  Also, now that there are going to be 2 lines of LO going at 
the same time, repositories will not want to have both line, or three 
lines when 3.5.x line comes out.




On 09/26/2011 08:22 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I think the original poster was just curious why there haven't been any updates but i'm not entirely certain.  A lot of people prefer to stay with the repos and rarely even use ppas let alone installing directly from unfamiliar websites. 


It's good to have the choice :)  I'm happily staying with the 3.3.2 in the ppa 
:)
Regards from
Tom :)



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups

[Ken Springer]

Hi, Tom,

On 9/26/11 6:31 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

 >  He wrote something...

I was going to ask you a question, but it's not worth the time to edit 
your Yahoo post.  :-)



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups

[dave boland]

I can get gmane to list all of the subscribed LO newsgroups and it
contains all of the messages in this thread.  Not sure how that
happened, but...  I'm not able to post to the group though, so this is
of no value to me until I can.

If posting instructions works for all of you then I'm ok with it, but I
still think regular newsgroups are a better idea for almost everyone
(though some obviously disagree).  

I'm still not sure why Linux distributions like Ubuntu would use regular
newsgroups, but a major player like LO won't.  I think this question
needs a good answer.

Dave,


> Well, just a thought - create the instructions with screenshots on the
> wiki and then just post a link to the page here...?
> 
> //drew
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO updates for Ubuntu 10.04

[dave boland]

I'm fine with the situation.  I was concerned that I had missed
something, but it looks I'm ok.  So, I'll wait until LO is ready for the
next release.

Dave,

On Monday, September 26, 2011 4:29 PM, "Tom" 
wrote:
> Hi :)
> I'm not expecting any up-dates tbh.  LibreOffice does full upgrades
> rather
> than minor updates because it develops so fast.  Is there a particular
> problem that you are waiting for a fix for?
> 
> People in the documentation team tend to download the "upstream" version
> from the web-site
> http://www.libreoffice.org/download/
> to help make sure screen-shots are consistent across different distros. 
> The
> instructions for how to install on gnu&linux are just being up-dated but
> it
> might be a week before the proof-reading and uploading gets done.  I
> think
> the current instructions are good enough to work out.  
> Regards from
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO updates for Ubuntu 10.04

[dave boland]

I use 32-bit, Desktop.  I would do the download, but it appears that
there is no urgent reason to do so.

Dave,

On Monday, September 26, 2011 7:50 PM, "webmaster for Kracked Press
Productions"  wrote:
> 
> Are you running 32 or 64 bit version of Ubuntu?  Desktop or laptop?  
> Does not really matter, but it would be nice to know.
> 

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups

[NoOp]

On 09/26/2011 06:56 PM, dave boland wrote:
> I can get gmane to list all of the subscribed LO newsgroups and it
> contains all of the messages in this thread.  Not sure how that
> happened, but...  I'm not able to post to the group though, so this is
> of no value to me until I can.
> 
> If posting instructions works for all of you then I'm ok with it, but I
> still think regular newsgroups are a better idea for almost everyone
> (though some obviously disagree).  
> 
> I'm still not sure why Linux distributions like Ubuntu would use regular
> newsgroups, but a major player like LO won't.  I think this question
> needs a good answer.

They don't. alt.os.linux.ubuntu isn't in *any way* related to any Ubuntu
list, group, forum et al. If you read the usenet charter it was simply
started by folks that wanted a usenet group. Ubuntu user lists are
available via gmane.org at: gmane.linux.ubuntu.user, as are nearly all
the other Ubuntu lists:

https://lists.ubuntu.com/

There's your answer.
...


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups

[Ken Springer]

On 9/26/11 7:56 PM, dave boland wrote:

If posting instructions works for all of you then I'm ok with it, but I
still think regular newsgroups are a better idea for almost everyone
(though some obviously disagree).


Let's see how simple I can make this work...  :-)

Let's start with this page: 
http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/msg07354.html


I think this will give you my first message about having Gmane sending 
issues.


Why don't you read the thread, see if it's any help.  If not, I'll do 
something else.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups

[Mihamina Rakotomandimby]

On 09/27/2011 05:42 AM, NoOp wrote:

I'm still not sure why Linux distributions like Ubuntu would use regular
 newsgroups, but a major player like LO won't.  I think this question
 needs a good answer.

They don't. alt.os.linux.ubuntu isn't in*any way*  related to any Ubuntu
list, group, forum et al. If you read the usenet charter it was simply
started by folks that wanted a usenet group. Ubuntu user lists are
available via gmane.org at: gmane.linux.ubuntu.user, as are nearly all
the other Ubuntu lists:


By the way, if Dave thinks it _is_ a must to have a "regular newsgroup", 
why wouldn't he start one and see?


He assumes to know several things, but is just speaking. Dave, act!

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups

[Mihamina Rakotomandimby]

On 09/27/2011 05:55 AM, Ken Springer wrote:

Why don't you read the thread, see if it's any help.


He wants to read only through NNTP ("regular newsgroup"), he doesn't 
want to use Web. Please provide him a "nntp://"; URL otherwise he wont 
read it :-)


Dave, by the way: do you know that Ubuntu WebForums (duh!) are also very 
famous? So why not a phpBB based fprum for LO? Just like Ubuntu...


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Real Usenet newsgroups

[Ken Springer]

On 9/26/11 9:12 PM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:

On 09/27/2011 05:55 AM, Ken Springer wrote:

Why don't you read the thread, see if it's any help.


He wants to read only through NNTP ("regular newsgroup"), he doesn't
want to use Web. Please provide him a "nntp://"; URL otherwise he wont
read it :-)


I wasn't asking him to read the entire newsgroup, just that thread to 
see if it helps him solve his Gmane problem.


As for an nntp URL address, I haven't figured out how to pry that out of 
Thunderbird.  Of course, you could have helped and given him the 
address.  :-)


Or, he could use this web address for reading just the thread, 
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss/6638, and 
it will look a lot like reading via a newsgroup reader.  I just now 
found this feature in Gmane.



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