date:20111018

Hi :)
Can you right-click on it and choose "close tool-bar"?  On mine there is a 
little separator at the beginning of the tool-bar to separate it from the rest 
of the icons tool-bar and that seems to be about the best place to try 
right-clicking.  

I hide the table's & the pictures' toolbar around there when i want to try to 
stop them popping up in inconvenient places.  
Regards from
Tom :)



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> From: David B Teague sr 
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Where is Find? (Writer 3.4.3)
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Tuesday, 18 October, 2011, 14:35
> 
> I don't want the find toolbar displayed all the time.
> 
> I can close it with the tool menu (that I get to through
> the small, 
> inobvious triangle that I only found because Stuart told
> us  about it in 
> the message quoted below), but the blank bar is still there
> eating 
> screen space. I can close the find tool bar completely
> with
> 
> view|toolbar
> unselect Find
> 
> I don't want the find bar occupying screen real estate all
> the time, I 
> don't want it there by default, and it is a bit of a hassle
> to go to the 
> view menu to remove it.
> 
> The find tool should not be there all the time. It wasn't
> in earlier OO 
> and LO versions. The find tool needs a "close button".
> 
> How do I easily make the find tool go away after use?
> 
> David
> 
> 
> On 10/14/2011 4:46 PM, V Stuart Foote wrote:
> > Jerry,
> >
> > Looks to be functional, but is state full in Windows
> 7, so it could be undocked somewhere in your UI that you can
> see as Cor suggests.
> >
> > Use the View -->  Toolbars -->  Find
> menu to toggle the Find box On.
> >
> > Then grab any toolbar and drag it to undock
> -->  open the tool menu (down triangle) and select
> Dock ALL Toolbars.
> >
> > That should return the active Find toolbar to its
> default docked location and allow+F activation.
> >
> > Stuart
> >
> > =-=-=
> > V Stuart Foote
> > Systems Analyst
> > College of Sciences
> > The University of Texas at San Antonio
> >
> > (210) 458-4962
> > vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> 
> 
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> 
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[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

Hi,
I installed lo-menubar from the Ubuntu Software Center which is said to
provide a Global Menu rather than a program-specific one.

While the installation is successful and the extension works as stated, I
would like to disable or remove it because I now realise that it does have
"*Windows*" as part of the Global Menu.
There's File, Edit, View, Insert, Format, Tools, Help ... but no *Windows*.
I'm used to relying on *Windows* and then opening a new window of the same
document. Additionally, LibreOffice would remember how I arrange two Windows
and open the second window just the way I like it.

Since Windows is missing, I have to work around by going to File, New
Document which I don't like.

When I look in Tools, Extension Manager, I see three extensions listed:
Copy Visible cells (which I had installed on LibreOffice 3.3 / Natty and
which has been retained during the upgrade to 11.10)
menubar (installed via Ubuntu Software Center)
Script Provider for Python 3.3.0 (which seems to have been there by default
since I didn't install it)

The last two, menubar and Script Provider have little locks next to them.

While the first, "Copy visible cells" has a disable/remove option, the two
with locks next to them don't. So it looks like I cannot disable or remove
menubar unless someone helps me!

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Recent Documents List

2011-10-18 Thread Tiggy22

Many thanks.  The History Master is the best option.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

Hi :)
Which version of Ubuntu are you using?

It might be easier to try to uninstall things using the package manager while 
LibreOffice is closed.  Perhaps the lock is due to LibreOffice being open?  

In Ubuntu 10.10 and earlier try the top taskbar and click on

System - Administration - "Synaptic Package Manager"

I don't know how to do that in Ubuntu 11.10 or 11.04.  If you are using one of 
them then perhaps open a command-line / terminal-console and try

gksu synaptic

to open Synaptic?
Either way once open the sesarhc tools should help you find the extensions.  I 
would search for "libreoffice" and then click the top of the column that has 
the green splodges in it that indicate packages that are installed.  Hopefully 
that will get all the installed packages, extensions and all to the top so you 
can just scroll down to find the one you want.  

The package manager ususally searches in descriptions as well as titles so a 
straight-forwards search might just give you the right thing straight away but 
i'm a bit pessimistic about that sort of thing ;)

Regards from
Tom :)



--- On Tue, 18/10/11, chimak111  wrote:

> From: chimak111 
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Tuesday, 18 October, 2011, 15:13
> Hi,
> I installed lo-menubar from the Ubuntu Software Center
> which is said to
> provide a Global Menu rather than a program-specific one.
> 
> While the installation is successful and the extension
> works as stated, I
> would like to disable or remove it because I now realise
> that it does have
> "*Windows*" as part of the Global Menu.
> There's File, Edit, View, Insert, Format, Tools, Help ...
> but no *Windows*.
> I'm used to relying on *Windows* and then opening a new
> window of the same
> document. Additionally, LibreOffice would remember how I
> arrange two Windows
> and open the second window just the way I like it.
> 
> Since Windows is missing, I have to work around by going to
> File, New
> Document which I don't like.
> 
> When I look in Tools, Extension Manager, I see three
> extensions listed:
> Copy Visible cells (which I had installed on LibreOffice
> 3.3 / Natty and
> which has been retained during the upgrade to 11.10)
> menubar (installed via Ubuntu Software Center)
> Script Provider for Python 3.3.0 (which seems to have been
> there by default
> since I didn't install it)
> 
> The last two, menubar and Script Provider have little locks
> next to them.
> 
> While the first, "Copy visible cells" has a disable/remove
> option, the two
> with locks next to them don't. So it looks like I cannot
> disable or remove
> menubar unless someone helps me!
> 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

Hi Tom, thanks for replying. I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) with
Unity 3D. I'd have preferred to have uninstalled it via LibreOffice itself
but I'll give your suggestion a try and hope I don't break anything.

I'm not vastly experienced in Linux. So let's see. I had installed the "Copy
Visible Cells" extension and that has a way to disable/remove it from within
LibreOffice's Extension Manager. That, in my opinion, should be the way to
uninstall extensions.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

2011-10-18 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

Okay!

With LibreOffice *not* running,
I used Nautilus (the file manager) to delete
/usr/lib/libreoffice/share/extensions/menubar and I've now got back the
original behavior.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)



Unity looks good, sometimes, so I have been told.  But for people use to 
GNOME or KDE, I would make sure those desktops are installed and set 
them as the default.  Everything I have read, and heard, makes me fee 
that will be my only choice, once I get my monitor issues fixed so I can 
install 11.xx.  It may be worse with Win 8 and its "Ribbon" style of 
desktop.  Good for touch pads but not of desktops.  That menu form is 
what many of "my" MSO users would not go beyond MSO 2003 or switched to 
OOo and then LO.




On 10/18/2011 11:05 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Which version of Ubuntu are you using?

It might be easier to try to uninstall things using the package manager while 
LibreOffice is closed.  Perhaps the lock is due to LibreOffice being open?

In Ubuntu 10.10 and earlier try the top taskbar and click on

System - Administration - "Synaptic Package Manager"

I don't know how to do that in Ubuntu 11.10 or 11.04.  If you are using one of 
them then perhaps open a command-line / terminal-console and try

gksu synaptic

to open Synaptic?
Either way once open the sesarhc tools should help you find the extensions.  I would 
search for "libreoffice" and then click the top of the column that has the 
green splodges in it that indicate packages that are installed.  Hopefully that will get 
all the installed packages, extensions and all to the top so you can just scroll down to 
find the one you want.

The package manager ususally searches in descriptions as well as titles so a 
straight-forwards search might just give you the right thing straight away but 
i'm a bit pessimistic about that sort of thing ;)

Regards from
Tom :)



--- On Tue, 18/10/11, chimak111  wrote:


From: chimak111
Subject: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 18 October, 2011, 15:13
Hi,
I installed lo-menubar from the Ubuntu Software Center
which is said to
provide a Global Menu rather than a program-specific one.

While the installation is successful and the extension
works as stated, I
would like to disable or remove it because I now realise
that it does have
"*Windows*" as part of the Global Menu.
There's File, Edit, View, Insert, Format, Tools, Help ...
but no *Windows*.
I'm used to relying on *Windows* and then opening a new
window of the same
document. Additionally, LibreOffice would remember how I
arrange two Windows
and open the second window just the way I like it.

Since Windows is missing, I have to work around by going to
File, New
Document which I don't like.

When I look in Tools, Extension Manager, I see three
extensions listed:
Copy Visible cells (which I had installed on LibreOffice
3.3 / Natty and
which has been retained during the upgrade to 11.10)
menubar (installed via Ubuntu Software Center)
Script Provider for Python 3.3.0 (which seems to have been
there by default
since I didn't install it)

The last two, menubar and Script Provider have little locks
next to them.

While the first, "Copy visible cells" has a disable/remove
option, the two
with locks next to them don't. So it looks like I cannot
disable or remove
menubar unless someone helps me!

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[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

This thread's about trying to remove an extension.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

2011-10-18 Thread Don C. Myers

On Ubuntu 11.10 synaptic is not installed by default. So if doing a 
clean install, simply get it from the software center. If you are doing 
any upgrade from 11.04, it should be there. To open it in 11.10, click 
on the Dash button and type in syn and it will be there to run. You 
could add it to the launcher. When 11.04 came out, I was reluctant to 
move it from 10.10 because of all of then negative things I had read. 
But I decided to since if I was going to be continuing to use Ubuntu, 
that is what I would need to learn. The Unity had some quirks, but over 
all wasn't too bad. I learned to really like the launcher bar. When I 
would go back to a machine with the old desktop on 10.10 after several 
months, it felt antiquated and old fashioned. 11.10 is smoother, works 
fast, and I am most pleased with it. It isn't perfect, but significant 
progress has been made over 11.04.



On 10/18/2011 12:32 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


Unity looks good, sometimes, so I have been told.  But for people use 
to GNOME or KDE, I would make sure those desktops are installed and 
set them as the default.  Everything I have read, and heard, makes me 
fee that will be my only choice, once I get my monitor issues fixed so 
I can install 11.xx.  It may be worse with Win 8 and its "Ribbon" 
style of desktop.  Good for touch pads but not of desktops.  That menu 
form is what many of "my" MSO users would not go beyond MSO 2003 or 
switched to OOo and then LO.




On 10/18/2011 11:05 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Which version of Ubuntu are you using?

It might be easier to try to uninstall things using the package 
manager while LibreOffice is closed.  Perhaps the lock is due to 
LibreOffice being open?


In Ubuntu 10.10 and earlier try the top taskbar and click on

System - Administration - "Synaptic Package Manager"

I don't know how to do that in Ubuntu 11.10 or 11.04.  If you are 
using one of them then perhaps open a command-line / terminal-console 
and try


gksu synaptic

to open Synaptic?
Either way once open the sesarhc tools should help you find the 
extensions.  I would search for "libreoffice" and then click the top 
of the column that has the green splodges in it that indicate 
packages that are installed.  Hopefully that will get all the 
installed packages, extensions and all to the top so you can just 
scroll down to find the one you want.


The package manager ususally searches in descriptions as well as 
titles so a straight-forwards search might just give you the right 
thing straight away but i'm a bit pessimistic about that sort of 
thing ;)


Regards from
Tom :)



--- On Tue, 18/10/11, chimak111  wrote:


From: chimak111
Subject: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 
(Unity 3D)

To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 18 October, 2011, 15:13
Hi,
I installed lo-menubar from the Ubuntu Software Center
which is said to
provide a Global Menu rather than a program-specific one.

While the installation is successful and the extension
works as stated, I
would like to disable or remove it because I now realise
that it does have
"*Windows*" as part of the Global Menu.
There's File, Edit, View, Insert, Format, Tools, Help ...
but no *Windows*.
I'm used to relying on *Windows* and then opening a new
window of the same
document. Additionally, LibreOffice would remember how I
arrange two Windows
and open the second window just the way I like it.

Since Windows is missing, I have to work around by going to
File, New
Document which I don't like.

When I look in Tools, Extension Manager, I see three
extensions listed:
Copy Visible cells (which I had installed on LibreOffice
3.3 / Natty and
which has been retained during the upgrade to 11.10)
menubar (installed via Ubuntu Software Center)
Script Provider for Python 3.3.0 (which seems to have been
there by default
since I didn't install it)

The last two, menubar and Script Provider have little locks
next to them.

While the first, "Copy visible cells" has a disable/remove
option, the two
with locks next to them don't. So it looks like I cannot
disable or remove
menubar unless someone helps me!

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 08:16 -0700, chimak111 wrote: 

> Hi Tom, thanks for replying. I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) with
> Unity 3D. I'd have preferred to have uninstalled it via LibreOffice itself
> but I'll give your suggestion a try and hope I don't break anything.
> 
> I'm not vastly experienced in Linux. So let's see. I had installed the "Copy
> Visible Cells" extension and that has a way to disable/remove it from within
> LibreOffice's Extension Manager. That, in my opinion, should be the way to
> uninstall extensions.
> 
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> 


Ubuntu 11.04 and 11.10 both have Synaptic - at the variants I have
looked at. If not installed, it can be downloaded using the Software
Center. Synaptic provides a GUI for detailed package management.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 12:32 -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press
Productions wrote: 

> Unity looks good, sometimes, so I have been told.  But for people use to 
> GNOME or KDE, I would make sure those desktops are installed and set 
> them as the default.  Everything I have read, and heard, makes me fee 
> that will be my only choice, once I get my monitor issues fixed so I can 
> install 11.xx.  It may be worse with Win 8 and its "Ribbon" style of 
> desktop.  Good for touch pads but not of desktops.  That menu form is 
> what many of "my" MSO users would not go beyond MSO 2003 or switched to 
> OOo and then LO.
> 
> 

Lubuntu, Xubuntu, and Kubuntu do not install Unity at all. These have a
similar look and feel to Windows for most users. I believe you can
change the desktop at log in with 11.10 Ubuntu to Gnome 3.X 

> 
> On 10/18/2011 11:05 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> > Hi :)
> > Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
> >
> > It might be easier to try to uninstall things using the package manager 
> > while LibreOffice is closed.  Perhaps the lock is due to LibreOffice being 
> > open?
> >
> > In Ubuntu 10.10 and earlier try the top taskbar and click on
> >
> > System - Administration - "Synaptic Package Manager"
> >
> > I don't know how to do that in Ubuntu 11.10 or 11.04.  If you are using one 
> > of them then perhaps open a command-line / terminal-console and try
> >
> > gksu synaptic
> >
> > to open Synaptic?
> > Either way once open the sesarhc tools should help you find the extensions. 
> >  I would search for "libreoffice" and then click the top of the column that 
> > has the green splodges in it that indicate packages that are installed.  
> > Hopefully that will get all the installed packages, extensions and all to 
> > the top so you can just scroll down to find the one you want.
> >
> > The package manager ususally searches in descriptions as well as titles so 
> > a straight-forwards search might just give you the right thing straight 
> > away but i'm a bit pessimistic about that sort of thing ;)
> >
> > Regards from
> > Tom :)
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 18/10/11, chimak111  wrote:
> >
> >> From: chimak111
> >> Subject: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)
> >> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >> Date: Tuesday, 18 October, 2011, 15:13
> >> Hi,
> >> I installed lo-menubar from the Ubuntu Software Center
> >> which is said to
> >> provide a Global Menu rather than a program-specific one.
> >>
> >> While the installation is successful and the extension
> >> works as stated, I
> >> would like to disable or remove it because I now realise
> >> that it does have
> >> "*Windows*" as part of the Global Menu.
> >> There's File, Edit, View, Insert, Format, Tools, Help ...
> >> but no *Windows*.
> >> I'm used to relying on *Windows* and then opening a new
> >> window of the same
> >> document. Additionally, LibreOffice would remember how I
> >> arrange two Windows
> >> and open the second window just the way I like it.
> >>
> >> Since Windows is missing, I have to work around by going to
> >> File, New
> >> Document which I don't like.
> >>
> >> When I look in Tools, Extension Manager, I see three
> >> extensions listed:
> >> Copy Visible cells (which I had installed on LibreOffice
> >> 3.3 / Natty and
> >> which has been retained during the upgrade to 11.10)
> >> menubar (installed via Ubuntu Software Center)
> >> Script Provider for Python 3.3.0 (which seems to have been
> >> there by default
> >> since I didn't install it)
> >>
> >> The last two, menubar and Script Provider have little locks
> >> next to them.
> >>
> >> While the first, "Copy visible cells" has a disable/remove
> >> option, the two
> >> with locks next to them don't. So it looks like I cannot
> >> disable or remove
> >> menubar unless someone helps me!
> >>
> >> --
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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

2011-10-18 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

Hi :)
Errr the "Ubuntu Software Center" is a package manager.  It tends to be better 
for installing an entire program rather than individual packages such as 
codecs, drivers, extensions, libraries and stuff but if you did manage to find 
the "lo-menubar" there before it might be easier to find it there again and 
uninstall from there.  Either way is good and there are other choices too such 
as uninstalling directly from the command-line.
Regards from
Tom :)



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> From: planas 
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Tuesday, 18 October, 2011, 18:52
> On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 12:32 -0400,
> webmaster for Kracked Press
> Productions wrote: 
> 
> > Unity looks good, sometimes, so I have been
> told.  But for people use to 
> > GNOME or KDE, I would make sure those desktops are
> installed and set 
> > them as the default.  Everything I have read, and
> heard, makes me fee 
> > that will be my only choice, once I get my monitor
> issues fixed so I can 
> > install 11.xx.  It may be worse with Win 8 and
> its "Ribbon" style of 
> > desktop.  Good for touch pads but not of
> desktops.  That menu form is 
> > what many of "my" MSO users would not go beyond MSO
> 2003 or switched to 
> > OOo and then LO.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Lubuntu, Xubuntu, and Kubuntu do not install Unity at all.
> These have a
> similar look and feel to Windows for most users. I believe
> you can
> change the desktop at log in with 11.10 Ubuntu to Gnome 3.X
> 
> 
> > 
> > On 10/18/2011 11:05 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> > > Hi :)
> > > Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
> > >
> > > It might be easier to try to uninstall things
> using the package manager while LibreOffice is closed. 
> Perhaps the lock is due to LibreOffice being open?
> > >
> > > In Ubuntu 10.10 and earlier try the top taskbar
> and click on
> > >
> > > System - Administration - "Synaptic Package
> Manager"
> > >
> > > I don't know how to do that in Ubuntu 11.10 or
> 11.04.  If you are using one of them then perhaps open
> a command-line / terminal-console and try
> > >
> > > gksu synaptic
> > >
> > > to open Synaptic?
> > > Either way once open the search tools should
> help you find the extensions.  I would search for
> "libreoffice" and then click the top of the column that has
> the green splodges in it that indicate packages that are
> installed.  Hopefully that will get all the installed
> packages, extensions and all to the top so you can just
> scroll down to find the one you want.
> > >
> > > The package manager usually searches in
> descriptions as well as titles so a straight-forwards search
> might just give you the right thing straight away but i'm a
> bit pessimistic about that sort of thing ;)
> > >
> > > Regards from
> > > Tom :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 18/10/11, chimak111 
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> From: chimak111
> > >> Subject: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice
> 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)
> > >> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > >> Date: Tuesday, 18 October, 2011, 15:13
> > >> Hi,
> > >> I installed lo-menubar from the Ubuntu
> Software Center
> > >> which is said to
> > >> provide a Global Menu rather than a
> program-specific one.
> > >>
> > >> While the installation is successful and the
> extension
> > >> works as stated, I
> > >> would like to disable or remove it because I
> now realise
> > >> that it does have
> > >> "*Windows*" as part of the Global Menu.
> > >> There's File, Edit, View, Insert, Format,
> Tools, Help ...
> > >> but no *Windows*.
> > >> I'm used to relying on *Windows* and then
> opening a new
> > >> window of the same
> > >> document. Additionally, LibreOffice would
> remember how I
> > >> arrange two Windows
> > >> and open the second window just the way I
> like it.
> > >>
> > >> Since Windows is missing, I have to work
> around by going to
> > >> File, New
> > >> Document which I don't like.
> > >>
> > >> When I look in Tools, Extension Manager, I
> see three
> > >> extensions listed:
> > >> Copy Visible cells (which I had installed on
> LibreOffice
> > >> 3.3 / Natty and
> > >> which has been retained during the upgrade to
> 11.10)
> > >> menubar (installed via Ubuntu Software
> Center)
> > >> Script Provider for Python 3.3.0 (which seems
> to have been
> > >> there by default
> > >> since I didn't install it)
> > >>
> > >> The last two, menubar and Script Provider
> have little locks
> > >> next to them.
> > >>
> > >> While the first, "Copy visible cells" has a
> disable/remove
> > >> option, the two
> > >> with locks next to them don't. So it looks
> like I cannot
> > >> disable or remove
> > >> menubar unless someone helps me!
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> View this message in context: 
> > >> http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice-3-4-3-on-Ubuntu-11-10-Unity-3D-tp3431366p3431366.html
> > >> Sent from the Users mailing list archive at
> Nabble.com.
> > >>
> > >> -- 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)


On 10/18/2011 01:52 PM, planas wrote:

On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 12:32 -0400, webmaster for Kracked Press
Productions wrote:


Unity looks good, sometimes, so I have been told.  But for people use to
GNOME or KDE, I would make sure those desktops are installed and set
them as the default.  Everything I have read, and heard, makes me fee
that will be my only choice, once I get my monitor issues fixed so I can
install 11.xx.  It may be worse with Win 8 and its "Ribbon" style of
desktop.  Good for touch pads but not of desktops.  That menu form is
what many of "my" MSO users would not go beyond MSO 2003 or switched to
OOo and then LO.



Lubuntu, Xubuntu, and Kubuntu do not install Unity at all. These have a
similar look and feel to Windows for most users. I believe you can
change the desktop at log in with 11.10 Ubuntu to Gnome 3.X
Running 10.04, I use GNOME by default, but I have the whole KDE package 
installed so I can run some of them under GNOME.  There are just some 
things that I do not like about KDE's desktop, but I do like some of 
their system packages and other software.  I just wish it did not change 
my monitor resolution during boot to 1920x1080, which my monitor cannot 
do.  I installed 11.04 not knowing that, and I had to wipe the install 
while keeping my data.






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[libreoffice-users] Re: [Mac] VBA support even for Mac ?

2011-10-18 Thread RussellBarnes

I'm also having the same issue here. 

I am attempting to convert a small business (140 seats) to LibreOffice form
MS Office, but without a fix/workaround on this we're stuck 'feeding the
beast'. I am working in an OSX (Intel) environment with documents created in
MS Office 2004. 

The error I'm reading on my Macro is as follows:

*Rem Attribute VBA_ModuleType=VBAModule
Option VBASupport 1
Sub Refresh()
'
' Refresh Macro
' Macro recorded 17/4/2005 by Frank Miller
'

'
Range("B7").Select
ActiveSheet.PivotTables("Forward Features Pivot").RefreshTable
End Sub
*

Sadly my understanding of Macros is non-existant. 

Hoping this 'bump' wont offend…

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

Hi :)
Ahh great.  I just don't know my way around Unity yet.  Anyway using the same 
tool you used before sounds like a good option ;)  

Oh, if things go really badly wrong Ubuntu offers a really neat trick that not 
many people know about.  You can re-install it without formatting or 
over-writing data.  You have to re-install the extra programs again (or remove 
ones you uninstalled last time)

On about the 3rd screen of the 11.10 installer (and most releases before that 
too) it offers choices such as 
"Erase disk and install Ubuntu" (avoid this one!!) or
"Something else" (this is the one)
It scans your drives and shows your partitions in a nice colourful graphical 
display.  If you chose the wrong option either press the back button or the 
link to "Advanced partitioning tool" to get to the same gui.  

You need to set one partition to be / as that is where the OS and programs go.  
It needs to be the same partition type as it was before, probably ext4 or ext3. 
 It is good to have a separate /home partition but that is usually in the same 
partition as the / first time you try Gnu&Linux.  Note that /home is a 
sub-folder inside / and contains user data&settings.  

The important thing is to make sure that the "Format?" column has NO ticks.  If 
a partition gets formatted it loses all the data it contained.  Ubuntu allows 
you to install without having any of these ticked.  I think it's not 
recommended as a fresh install is better but it is possible and seems to work 
well :)  

Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Tue, 18/10/11, planas  wrote:

> From: planas 
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 
> 3D)
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Tuesday, 18 October, 2011, 18:47
> On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 08:16 -0700,
> chimak111 wrote: 
> 
> > Hi Tom, thanks for replying. I'm using Ubuntu 11.10
> (Oneiric Ocelot) with
> > Unity 3D. I'd have preferred to have uninstalled it
> via LibreOffice itself
> > but I'll give your suggestion a try and hope I don't
> break anything.
> > 
> > I'm not vastly experienced in Linux. So let's see. I
> had installed the "Copy
> > Visible Cells" extension and that has a way to
> disable/remove it from within
> > LibreOffice's Extension Manager. That, in my opinion,
> should be the way to
> > uninstall extensions.
> > 
> > --
> > View this message in context: 
> > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice-3-4-3-on-Ubuntu-11-10-Unity-3D-tp3431366p3431523.html
> > Sent from the Users mailing list archive at
> Nabble.com.
> > 
> 
> 
> Ubuntu 11.04 and 11.10 both have Synaptic - at the variants
> I have
> looked at. If not installed, it can be downloaded using the
> Software
> Center. Synaptic provides a GUI for detailed package
> management.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

Hi :)
I really quite like the 11.10.  When i tried the 11.04 i really hated it but 
the 11.10 is a big improvement.  I still prefer traditional menus such as KDE 
or Gnome or any of the others but i get the feeling Unity is worth getting to 
know.  I like the way the top-taskbar becomes the title-bar when you hover the 
mouse arrow over it and i really like the way that accessing LibreOffice and 
Firefox is so easy! ;)
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Tue, 18/10/11, Don C. Myers  wrote:

> From: Don C. Myers 
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Tuesday, 18 October, 2011, 18:10
> On Ubuntu 11.10 synaptic is not
> installed by default. So if doing a clean install, simply
> get it from the software center. If you are doing any
> upgrade from 11.04, it should be there. To open it in 11.10,
> click on the Dash button and type in syn and it will be
> there to run. You could add it to the launcher. When 11.04
> came out, I was reluctant to move it from 10.10 because of
> all of then negative things I had read. But I decided to
> since if I was going to be continuing to use Ubuntu, that is
> what I would need to learn. The Unity had some quirks, but
> over all wasn't too bad. I learned to really like the
> launcher bar. When I would go back to a machine with the old
> desktop on 10.10 after several months, it felt antiquated
> and old fashioned. 11.10 is smoother, works fast, and I am
> most pleased with it. It isn't perfect, but significant
> progress has been made over 11.04.
> 
> 
> On 10/18/2011 12:32 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press
> Productions wrote:
> > 
> > Unity looks good, sometimes, so I have been
> told.  But for people use to GNOME or KDE, I would make
> sure those desktops are installed and set them as the
> default.  Everything I have read, and heard, makes me
> fee that will be my only choice, once I get my monitor
> issues fixed so I can install 11.xx.  It may be worse
> with Win 8 and its "Ribbon" style of desktop.  Good for
> touch pads but not of desktops.  That menu form is what
> many of "my" MSO users would not go beyond MSO 2003 or
> switched to OOo and then LO.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 10/18/2011 11:05 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> >> Hi :)
> >> Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
> >> 
> >> It might be easier to try to uninstall things
> using the package manager while LibreOffice is closed. 
> Perhaps the lock is due to LibreOffice being open?
> >> 
> >> In Ubuntu 10.10 and earlier try the top taskbar
> and click on
> >> 
> >> System - Administration - "Synaptic Package
> Manager"
> >> 
> >> I don't know how to do that in Ubuntu 11.10 or
> 11.04.  If you are using one of them then perhaps open
> a command-line / terminal-console and try
> >> 
> >> gksu synaptic
> >> 
> >> to open Synaptic?
> >> Either way once open the sesarhc tools should help
> you find the extensions.  I would search for
> "libreoffice" and then click the top of the column that has
> the green splodges in it that indicate packages that are
> installed.  Hopefully that will get all the installed
> packages, extensions and all to the top so you can just
> scroll down to find the one you want.
> >> 
> >> The package manager ususally searches in
> descriptions as well as titles so a straight-forwards search
> might just give you the right thing straight away but i'm a
> bit pessimistic about that sort of thing ;)
> >> 
> >> Regards from
> >> Tom :)
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> --- On Tue, 18/10/11, chimak111 
> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> From: chimak111
> >>> Subject: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3
> on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)
> >>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >>> Date: Tuesday, 18 October, 2011, 15:13
> >>> Hi,
> >>> I installed lo-menubar from the Ubuntu
> Software Center
> >>> which is said to
> >>> provide a Global Menu rather than a
> program-specific one.
> >>> 
> >>> While the installation is successful and the
> extension
> >>> works as stated, I
> >>> would like to disable or remove it because I
> now realise
> >>> that it does have
> >>> "*Windows*" as part of the Global Menu.
> >>> There's File, Edit, View, Insert, Format,
> Tools, Help ...
> >>> but no *Windows*.
> >>> I'm used to relying on *Windows* and then
> opening a new
> >>> window of the same
> >>> document. Additionally, LibreOffice would
> remember how I
> >>> arrange two Windows
> >>> and open the second window just the way I like
> it.
> >>> 
> >>> Since Windows is missing, I have to work
> around by going to
> >>> File, New
> >>> Document which I don't like.
> >>> 
> >>> When I look in Tools, Extension Manager, I see
> three
> >>> extensions listed:
> >>> Copy Visible cells (which I had installed on
> LibreOffice
> >>> 3.3 / Natty and
> >>> which has been retained during the upgrade to
> 11.10)
> >>> menubar (installed via Ubuntu Software
> Center)
> >>> Script Provider for Python 3.3.0 (which seems
> to have been
> >>> there by default
> >>> since I didn't install it)
>

[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

2011-10-18 Thread Tom

Hi :)

Oops, sorry chimak111.  We do get side-tracked quite often.  The 11.10 was
only released a few days ago and Unity is very different from the other
Gnu&Linux interfaces so it's difficult to avoid talking about it.  

It's good to hear you have solved the problem in such an advanced way!
Congrats and regards from
Tom :)

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Fwd: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D) and Base/Java on 11.10

2011-10-18 Thread Don C. Myers

I've been enjoying it. With respect to the LibreOffice/Base issue, I did 
one clean install of the 64 bit Ubuntu 11.10, and three upgrades from 
11.04. On the clean install, Sun (Oracle) Java is not installed nor is 
it available in the repository nor is it available from a partner. If 
you really have to have it it can be installed if you look hard. What I 
read said Ubuntu felt that the Open JDK had progressed far enough and 
was secure, and that it would take care of almost anybody's needs. I 
just left things the way the default install did it and didn't install 
Sun Java. I uninstalled the packaged LibreOffice that came with Ubuntu, 
and then installed the 3.4.3 that is directly from LibreOffice. I then 
tried Base. It was TERRIBLY slow. I checked what it said the Java was, 
and it said it was Sun Microsystems, Inc. Version 1.6.0_23. With a clean 
install, where did it come from??? Maybe it read the OpenJDK as being 
1.6.0_23 as being the Sun Version. I don't know. So the I installed 
1.6.0_21 and Base was very happy again!!! In Synaptic there is no 
evidence that Sun Java 1.6.0_23 is installed, nor does 1.6.0_21 show up 
the way we are installing it. Could it have been shipped with Base?

Don

 Original Message 
Subject: 	Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 
(Unity 3D)

Date:   Tue, 18 Oct 2011 22:18:27 +0100 (BST)
From:   Tom Davies 
Reply-To:   users@global.libreoffice.org
To: users@global.libreoffice.org

Hi :)
I really quite like the 11.10.  When i tried the 11.04 i really hated it but 
the 11.10 is a big improvement.  I still prefer traditional menus such as KDE 
or Gnome or any of the others but i get the feeling Unity is worth getting to 
know.  I like the way the top-taskbar becomes the title-bar when you hover the 
mouse arrow over it and i really like the way that accessing LibreOffice and 
Firefox is so easy! ;)
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Tue, 18/10/11, Don C. Myers  wrote:

 From: Don C. Myers
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Tuesday, 18 October, 2011, 18:10
 On Ubuntu 11.10 synaptic is not
 installed by default. So if doing a clean install, simply
 get it from the software center. If you are doing any
 upgrade from 11.04, it should be there. To open it in 11.10,
 click on the Dash button and type in syn and it will be
 there to run. You could add it to the launcher. When 11.04
 came out, I was reluctant to move it from 10.10 because of
 all of then negative things I had read. But I decided to
 since if I was going to be continuing to use Ubuntu, that is
 what I would need to learn. The Unity had some quirks, but
 over all wasn't too bad. I learned to really like the
 launcher bar. When I would go back to a machine with the old
 desktop on 10.10 after several months, it felt antiquated
 and old fashioned. 11.10 is smoother, works fast, and I am
 most pleased with it. It isn't perfect, but significant
 progress has been made over 11.04.

 On 10/18/2011 12:32 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press
 Productions wrote:
 >
 >  Unity looks good, sometimes, so I have been
 told.  But for people use to GNOME or KDE, I would make
 sure those desktops are installed and set them as the
 default.  Everything I have read, and heard, makes me
 fee that will be my only choice, once I get my monitor
 issues fixed so I can install 11.xx.  It may be worse
 with Win 8 and its "Ribbon" style of desktop.  Good for
 touch pads but not of desktops.  That menu form is what
 many of "my" MSO users would not go beyond MSO 2003 or
 switched to OOo and then LO.
 >
 >
 >
 >  On 10/18/2011 11:05 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 >>  Hi :)
 >>  Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
 >>
 >>  It might be easier to try to uninstall things
 using the package manager while LibreOffice is closed.
 Perhaps the lock is due to LibreOffice being open?
 >>
 >>  In Ubuntu 10.10 and earlier try the top taskbar
 and click on
 >>
 >>  System - Administration - "Synaptic Package
 Manager"
 >>
 >>  I don't know how to do that in Ubuntu 11.10 or
 11.04.  If you are using one of them then perhaps open
 a command-line / terminal-console and try
 >>
 >>  gksu synaptic
 >>
 >>  to open Synaptic?
 >>  Either way once open the sesarhc tools should help
 you find the extensions.  I would search for
 "libreoffice" and then click the top of the column that has
 the green splodges in it that indicate packages that are
 installed.  Hopefully that will get all the installed
 packages, extensions and all to the top so you can just
 scroll down to find the one you want.
 >>
 >>  The package manager ususally searches in
 descriptions as well as titles so a straight-forwards search
 might just give you the right thing straight away but i'm a
 bit pessimistic about that sort of thing ;)
 >>
 >>  Regards from
 >>  Tom :)
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >>  --- On Tue, 18/10/11, chimak111
 wrote:
 >>
 >>>  From: chimak111
 >>>  Subject: [libreoffice

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 20:56 +0100, Tom Davies wrote: 

> Hi :)
> Ahh great.  I just don't know my way around Unity yet.  Anyway using the same 
> tool you used before sounds like a good option ;)  
> 
> Oh, if things go really badly wrong Ubuntu offers a really neat trick that 
> not many people know about.  You can re-install it without formatting or 
> over-writing data.  You have to re-install the extra programs again (or 
> remove ones you uninstalled last time)
> 
> On about the 3rd screen of the 11.10 installer (and most releases before that 
> too) it offers choices such as 
> "Erase disk and install Ubuntu" (avoid this one!!) or
> "Something else" (this is the one)
> It scans your drives and shows your partitions in a nice colourful graphical 
> display.  If you chose the wrong option either press the back button or the 
> link to "Advanced partitioning tool" to get to the same gui.  
> 
> You need to set one partition to be / as that is where the OS and programs 
> go.  It needs to be the same partition type as it was before, probably ext4 
> or ext3.  It is good to have a separate /home partition but that is usually 
> in the same partition as the / first time you try Gnu&Linux.  Note that /home 
> is a sub-folder inside / and contains user data&settings.  
> 
> The important thing is to make sure that the "Format?" column has NO ticks.  
> If a partition gets formatted it loses all the data it contained.  Ubuntu 
> allows you to install without having any of these ticked.  I think it's not 
> recommended as a fresh install is better but it is possible and seems to work 
> well :)  
> 

One trick I have been using is to use two different partitions for a
base Linux install. The smaller one is the "/" partition and the larger
one is /home partition. This allows only updating the OS without
affecting the user data. To do this, I select the option to do a custom
install during installation. 

> Regards from
> Tom :)
> 
> --- On Tue, 18/10/11, planas  wrote:
> 
> > From: planas 
> > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 
> > (Unity 3D)
> > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > Date: Tuesday, 18 October, 2011, 18:47
> > On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 08:16 -0700,
> > chimak111 wrote: 
> > 
> > > Hi Tom, thanks for replying. I'm using Ubuntu 11.10
> > (Oneiric Ocelot) with
> > > Unity 3D. I'd have preferred to have uninstalled it
> > via LibreOffice itself
> > > but I'll give your suggestion a try and hope I don't
> > break anything.
> > > 
> > > I'm not vastly experienced in Linux. So let's see. I
> > had installed the "Copy
> > > Visible Cells" extension and that has a way to
> > disable/remove it from within
> > > LibreOffice's Extension Manager. That, in my opinion,
> > should be the way to
> > > uninstall extensions.
> > > 
> > > --
> > > View this message in context: 
> > > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice-3-4-3-on-Ubuntu-11-10-Unity-3D-tp3431366p3431523.html
> > > Sent from the Users mailing list archive at
> > Nabble.com.
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > Ubuntu 11.04 and 11.10 both have Synaptic - at the variants
> > I have
> > looked at. If not installed, it can be downloaded using the
> > Software
> > Center. Synaptic provides a GUI for detailed package
> > management.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [Mac] VBA support even for Mac ?

On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 03:34 -0700, RussellBarnes wrote: 

> I'm also having the same issue here. 
> 
> I am attempting to convert a small business (140 seats) to LibreOffice form
> MS Office, but without a fix/workaround on this we're stuck 'feeding the
> beast'. I am working in an OSX (Intel) environment with documents created in
> MS Office 2004. 
> 
> The error I'm reading on my Macro is as follows:
> 
> *Rem Attribute VBA_ModuleType=VBAModule
> Option VBASupport 1
> Sub Refresh()
> '
> ' Refresh Macro
> ' Macro recorded 17/4/2005 by Frank Miller
> '
> 
> '
> Range("B7").Select
> ActiveSheet.PivotTables("Forward Features Pivot").RefreshTable
> End Sub
> *
> 
> Sadly my understanding of Macros is non-existant. 
> 
> Hoping this 'bump' wont offend…

It will not offend, there are a couple people who are excellent with
macros around. Hopefully they will reply soon. You might check under
OPTIONS>>LOAD/SAVE>>VBA Properties and see what is checked. On Linux, if
I remember correctly, all the check boxes are checked by default. 

> 
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> Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

2011-10-18 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions

Hi :)
The /home and the linux-swap partitions can be shared by different distros each 
having a / on a different small partition.  For Ubuntu i try to use 8GB 
partitions for / but it really doesn't need more than 5GB if the /home is 
separate.  Most other distros can cope happily with much less.  

If you use the same DE (Gnome, KDE, LxDE or whatever) then it can make some of 
the distros look a bit strange unless you use a different user-name which often 
kinda defeats the object of sharing the /home
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Tue, 18/10/11, planas  wrote:

> From: planas 
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 
> 3D)
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Tuesday, 18 October, 2011, 22:55
> On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 20:56 +0100,
> Tom Davies wrote: 
> 
> > Hi :)
> > Ahh great.  I just don't know my way around Unity
> yet.  Anyway using the same tool you used before sounds
> like a good option ;)  



> > You need to set one partition to be / as that is where
> the OS and programs go.  It needs to be the same
> partition type as it was before, probably ext4 or
> ext3.  It is good to have a separate /home partition
> but that is usually in the same partition as the / first
> time you try Gnu&Linux.  Note that /home is a
> sub-folder inside / and contains user
> data&settings.  
> > 



> 
> One trick I have been using is to use two different
> partitions for a
> base Linux install. The smaller one is the "/" partition
> and the larger
> one is /home partition. This allows only updating the OS
> without
> affecting the user data. To do this, I select the option to
> do a custom
> install during installation. 
> 


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Fwd: Re: LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D) and Base/Java on 11.10

2011-10-18 Thread NoOp

On 10/18/2011 02:44 PM, Don C. Myers wrote:
> I've been enjoying it. With respect to the LibreOffice/Base issue, I did 
> one clean install of the 64 bit Ubuntu 11.10, and three upgrades from 
> 11.04. On the clean install, Sun (Oracle) Java is not installed nor is 
> it available in the repository nor is it available from a partner. If 
> you really have to have it it can be installed if you look hard. What I 
> read said Ubuntu felt that the Open JDK had progressed far enough and 
> was secure, and that it would take care of almost anybody's needs. I 
> just left things the way the default install did it and didn't install 
> Sun Java. I uninstalled the packaged LibreOffice that came with Ubuntu, 
> and then installed the 3.4.3 that is directly from LibreOffice. I then 
> tried Base. It was TERRIBLY slow. I checked what it said the Java was, 
> and it said it was Sun Microsystems, Inc. Version 1.6.0_23. With a clean 
> install, where did it come from??? Maybe it read the OpenJDK as being 
> 1.6.0_23 as being the Sun Version. I don't know. So the I installed 
> 1.6.0_21 and Base was very happy again!!! In Synaptic there is no 
> evidence that Sun Java 1.6.0_23 is installed, nor does 1.6.0_21 show up 
> the way we are installing it. Could it have been shipped with Base?
...
If you would have /read/ what it said, you would have seen that it was
*openJDK* version 1.6.0_23 (which of course is the Sun/Oracle package) -
bottom of the Java options panel:
Location:/usr/lib/jvm/java6-openjdk/jre

Note: You might want to install the full LO as the initial install
misses quite a few components (same as the (U)OOo did:

$ sudo apt-get install libreoffice

That will pull in additional packages such as libhsqldb-java,
libreoffice-java-common etc.

Regarding sun-java6-jre: it's not included due to Oracle's recent
licensing changes.
See:
and
http://robilad.livejournal.com/90792.html

So any further bug reports regarding Ubuntu/linux from 11.10 onward will
have to deal with openJDK instead as I doubt that Ubuntu will accept any
further bug reports regarding sun-java6.

You can file a bug report against openjdk here:
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-6/+bugs
and libreoffice (with ref to openjdk) here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffic
if something is broken in your distro version. The Ubuntu LO maintainers
can then 'upstream' the bugs if necessary.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)



I cannot get a 11.10 CD/DVD to do a "live demo" on a Ubuntu system.  My 
only Windows machine I have working is dual boot and I cannot get it to 
boot from the CD.  It keeps going to GRUB.  When I choose Win Vista, it 
does not boot from the CD then.  So I cannot see what 11.10 looks like.  
Since it wants to boot at 1920 by 1080 [nVidia MoB graphics] and my 
monitor max out at 1368 by 768, it causes problems.


I still will use GNOME/KDE combo for my desktop and packages.


On 10/18/2011 05:18 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I really quite like the 11.10.  When i tried the 11.04 i really hated it but 
the 11.10 is a big improvement.  I still prefer traditional menus such as KDE 
or Gnome or any of the others but i get the feeling Unity is worth getting to 
know.  I like the way the top-taskbar becomes the title-bar when you hover the 
mouse arrow over it and i really like the way that accessing LibreOffice and 
Firefox is so easy! ;)
Regards from
Tom :)




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Fwd: Re: LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D) and Base/Java on 11.10

2011-10-18 Thread Don Myers


On 10/18/2011 07:35 PM, NoOp wrote:

If you would have/read/  what it said, you would have seen that it was
*openJDK*  version 1.6.0_23 (which of course is the Sun/Oracle package) -
bottom of the Java options panel:
Location:/usr/lib/jvm/java6-openjdk/jre

Hi NoOP,

Thank you for your detailed response. With all due respect, when I 
clicked in LibreOffice on Tools/Options/Java LibreOffice said exactly:

Sun Microsystems, Inc. Version 1.6.0_23

and not openJDK

I can take a screenshot of it for you tomorrow if you would like.

Don

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

2011-10-18 Thread Don Myers

In your BIOS, make sure when you are booting that it is checking you 
CD/DVD drives before your hard drive. I needed to do this and change the 
boot order so I could preview and also install 11.10.


Don

On 10/18/2011 08:18 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:


I cannot get a 11.10 CD/DVD to do a "live demo" on a Ubuntu system.  
My only Windows machine I have working is dual boot and I cannot get 
it to boot from the CD.  It keeps going to GRUB.  When I choose Win 
Vista, it does not boot from the CD then.  So I cannot see what 11.10 
looks like.  Since it wants to boot at 1920 by 1080 [nVidia MoB 
graphics] and my monitor max out at 1368 by 768, it causes problems.


I still will use GNOME/KDE combo for my desktop and packages.


On 10/18/2011 05:18 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I really quite like the 11.10.  When i tried the 11.04 i really hated 
it but the 11.10 is a big improvement.  I still prefer traditional 
menus such as KDE or Gnome or any of the others but i get the feeling 
Unity is worth getting to know.  I like the way the top-taskbar 
becomes the title-bar when you hover the mouse arrow over it and i 
really like the way that accessing LibreOffice and Firefox is so 
easy! ;)

Regards from
Tom :)






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[libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

2011-10-18 Thread NoOp

On 10/18/2011 05:18 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
> 
> I cannot get a 11.10 CD/DVD to do a "live demo" on a Ubuntu system.  My 
> only Windows machine I have working is dual boot and I cannot get it to 
> boot from the CD.  It keeps going to GRUB.  When I choose Win Vista, it 
> does not boot from the CD then.  So I cannot see what 11.10 looks like.  
> Since it wants to boot at 1920 by 1080 [nVidia MoB graphics] and my 
> monitor max out at 1368 by 768, it causes problems.

Wrong newsgroup/list... Ubuntu is two doors down and to the right (seems
to be in the same shared cubicle as Apple lately).

So why are you asking about your Ubuntu issues here on an LO list?



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Fwd: Re: LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D) and Base/Java on 11.10

2011-10-18 Thread NoOp

On 10/18/2011 06:30 PM, Don Myers wrote:
> On 10/18/2011 07:35 PM, NoOp wrote:
>> If you would have/read/  what it said, you would have seen that it was
>> *openJDK*  version 1.6.0_23 (which of course is the Sun/Oracle package) -
>> bottom of the Java options panel:
>> Location:/usr/lib/jvm/java6-openjdk/jre
> Hi NoOP,
> 
> Thank you for your detailed response. With all due respect, when I 
> clicked in LibreOffice on Tools/Options/Java LibreOffice said exactly:
> Sun Microsystems, Inc. Version 1.6.0_23
> 
> and not openJDK
> 
> I can take a screenshot of it for you tomorrow if you would like.
> 
> Don
> 

No need. Just look at the:
bottom of the Java options panel:
Location:/usr/lib/jvm/java6-openjdk/jre
and you'll see that it's java6-openjdk.






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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)

Hi :)
This guide might help
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromCD
Even though it is written for Ubuntu it is almost identical for other distros 
as usual ;)  

When you try to boot an Ubuntu Cd it gives you a pop=-up screen with a language 
selector and 2 buttons
1. Try Ubuntu (this often doesn't work and just hangs the system) 
2. Install Ubuntu (has lots of "Back" buttons)
Soi click on the "Install" and then at click on the "Back" buttons until i get 
back to that screen with the language selector and the 2 options.  Now the "Try 
Ubuntu" button works!  I keep forgetting to post a bug-report about it.  
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Wed, 19/10/11, Don Myers  wrote:

> From: Don Myers 
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Wednesday, 19 October, 2011, 2:33
> In your BIOS, make sure when you are
> booting that it is checking you CD/DVD drives before your
> hard drive. I needed to do this and change the boot order so
> I could preview and also install 11.10.
> 
> Don
> 
> On 10/18/2011 08:18 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press
> Productions wrote:
> > 
> > I cannot get a 11.10 CD/DVD to do a "live demo" on a
> Ubuntu system.  My only Windows machine I have working
> is dual boot and I cannot get it to boot from the CD. 
> It keeps going to GRUB.  When I choose Win Vista, it
> does not boot from the CD then.  So I cannot see what
> 11.10 looks like.  Since it wants to boot at 1920 by
> 1080 [nVidia MoB graphics] and my monitor max out at 1368 by
> 768, it causes problems.
> > 
> > I still will use GNOME/KDE combo for my desktop and
> packages.
> > 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.4.3 on Ubuntu 11.10 (Unity 3D)