[libreoffice-users] reactivate spell checker
Good evening from Japan Recently I have tried a demo version of the German (commercial) spell checker Duden Rechtschreibpruefung. Now the trial period is over, I deinstalled the above software, and think I manually also deleted all relevant folders, yet, the original spell checker is dead. Means: although the German dictionary is installed AND the language for the text set to German, ALL I ever get back from the spell checker - even if I intentionally introduce obvious mistakes - spell check is complete. Windows XP, LibreOffice 3.3.3 (build 301) Is there a trick to reactivate something that did work fine before? Thank you in advance Thomas -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Microsoft Works-2
Hi :) How do we make sure 'they' don't delete the MS Works filters? Is it likely to be possible to move them into an Extension? Regards from Tom :) --- On Fri, 18/11/11, Alex Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com wrote: From: Alex Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Microsoft Works-2 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Friday, 18 November, 2011, 6:53 Le 17/11/2011 23:26, NoOp a écrit : Hi, I think that LO would be making a mistake by not continuing to support MS Works files (at the the newer versions), at least to properly open and display the files. Well, the question hasn't been put to the engineering committee as far as I know, so one way for it to become more visible would be to open a bug report requesting improvement of the MSWorks import filter. As with most everything else in LO development, if people need that functionality so badly, then they can help themselves...to help themselves, by either getting stuck into the code or finding someone they can pay/bribe/persuade to fix it. Alex -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Restore Windows Pop-Up
Hi :) This guide might help http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProfile Zack's answer user the address of the UserProfile in Mac but it's in a slightly different place in other OSes. The UserProfile page shows the default locations for different OSes. Errr, oh this is a Mac question lol! Regards from Tom :) --- On Fri, 18/11/11, zack.sims zack.s...@gmail.com wrote: From: zack.sims zack.s...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Restore Windows Pop-Up To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Friday, 18 November, 2011, 0:46 Billj31 wrote: I am running LibreOffice on a Mac running OS X 10.7. LibreOffice does open. It's just that the Restore Windows pop-up won't go away. Bill I had the exact same problem on my mac. This fix is a hack and slash approach, but it fixed the problem for me: Open Terminal and type cd /Users/[username]/Library/Saved Application State/org.libreoffice.script.savedState echo restorecount.txt Hope this works, Zack -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Restore-Windows-Pop-Up-tp3494173p3517532.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] draw document inaccessible in gnu/linux
Readers, Has anyone seen that an odg document creating in LO m$ could not be opened in LO linux? The computer has two operating systems and LO linux claimed that the file was corrupt and couldn't be opened. Accessing the same document was possible via LO m$; LO 33 is used in both systems. If someone can confirm similar behaviour it would be good to know, then a bug can be notified. Thanks. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] alternative to openclipart
Readers, The web server for openclipart is disabled; does anyone know similar web sites that are available to obtain pictures/icons/etc.? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Differences between LibreOffice 3.3 and 3.4
Recently, we've started the second phase of our company-wide migration from OpenOffice.org 3.2 to 3.3 and have encountered massive problems on our Linux terminal servers. They were so big that we've decided to put the project on hold for now and start looking for alternatives. Obviously, LibreOffice is our #1 choice here. However, even though I've been browsing the LO website for two days now I am unable to decide whether 3.3 or 3.4 would be better for us. As far as I can see they are both recommended for enterprise use in production environments but what I'm missing is a clear marketing-bubble free technical comparison. Does that exist? Or maybe an overview over what (enterprise-related) features 3.4 might have that 3.3 doesn't? Thanks in advance, Martin -- Rieke Computersysteme GmbH Hellerholz 5 D-82061 Neuried HRB Muenchen 73617 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Microsoft Works-2
Le 18/11/11 11:14, Tom Davies a écrit : Hi Tom, Hi :) How do we make sure 'they' don't delete the MS Works filters? Is it likely to be possible to move them into an Extension? Regards from I think you misunderstood me, or I didn't express myself clearly enough. The WPS filters aren't going to be deleted AFAIK, just the legacy StarOffice binary filters. These have already become an optional build time module in the source tree, i.e. they are no longer built and supplied by default with the basic installation set. Alex -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Differences between LibreOffice 3.3 and 3.4
Go for 3.4 period - from twohot@device.mobile :) -Original Message- From: Martin Jungowski mar...@rhm.de Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:06:34 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Reply-To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Differences between LibreOffice 3.3 and 3.4 Recently, we've started the second phase of our company-wide migration from OpenOffice.org 3.2 to 3.3 and have encountered massive problems on our Linux terminal servers. They were so big that we've decided to put the project on hold for now and start looking for alternatives. Obviously, LibreOffice is our #1 choice here. However, even though I've been browsing the LO website for two days now I am unable to decide whether 3.3 or 3.4 would be better for us. As far as I can see they are both recommended for enterprise use in production environments but what I'm missing is a clear marketing-bubble free technical comparison. Does that exist? Or maybe an overview over what (enterprise-related) features 3.4 might have that 3.3 doesn't? Thanks in advance, Martin -- Rieke Computersysteme GmbH Hellerholz 5 D-82061 Neuried HRB Muenchen 73617 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Differences between LibreOffice 3.3 and 3.4
Use LO33 and minimise the time lost due to bugs and extra new features. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Differences between LibreOffice 3.3 and 3.4
Assuming you already read this http://www.libreoffice.org/download/3-4-new-features-and-fixes/ and this http://www.libreoffice.org/download/new-features-and-fixes/ the general recommendation is that you get the latest version i.e. 3.4.x The reason both versions are available is that because of the massive code changes, some regressions occurred. The majority of the significant regressions have already been fixed but some may have remained. If you find that features that used to work for you in OpenOffice 3.2 no longer work in 3.4.x it is likely that you are better off with LO 3.3.x (which is closer to the OOo code). If none of them works as expected, then you should insist on the 3.4.x and by reporting your problems, help the project move into a better future :) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Differences-between-LibreOffice-3-3-and-3-4-tp3518436p3518642.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] reactivate spell checker
I was wondering if you could re-install the language pack[s]. Of you could install a dictionary extension for German. That might change the system settings. I know that if you add a different dictionary for the same language, the new one has priority over the older one. When both have thesaurus options, the new dictionary thesaurus word show up first, then the old dictionary's thesaurus words. So, adding a new German dictionary might help. This is the link to LO's Extension Center, with the dictionary search option. http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center?getCategories=DictionarygetCompatibility=LibreOffice+3.4sort_on=positive_ratingspath=%2FLibreOffice-Extensions-and-Templates%2Fextension-centerportal_type=PSCProjectSearchableText= http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center?getCategories=DictionarygetCompatibility=LibreOffice+3.4sort_on=positive_ratingspath=%2FLibreOffice-Extensions-and-Templates%2Fextension-centerportal_type=PSCProjectSearchableText= --- Also, since you are using version 3.3.3, you might want to install a newer version of LibreOffice. There is a 3.3.4 version and the 3.4.x line is now at 3.4.4. I used 3.3.4 before and I am currently using 3.4.3 and 3.4.4 on my Linux and Windows systems. They work much better for reading and writing the Microsoft Office .docx and the other file formats that MSO started using since 2007. It seems that every update works a little better in many areas, besides fixing a bug or three. --- Also, to promote what I have done: Look at the Extension listing for American British Canadian English dictionaries. From that link, you will find 11 different English dictionaries with spell checking words list ranging from 98,000+ words to 638,000+ words, and each has hyphenation and thesaurus options included. I have not seen any English spell checking dictionary that had 390,000+ or 638,000+ words in their word lists. That would make my contributions to the LO extensions the largest ones. Myself, I use the American English version with 217,000+ words in its spell checking list. . On 11/18/2011 03:27 AM, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: Good evening from Japan Recently I have tried a demo version of the German (commercial) spell checker Duden Rechtschreibpruefung. Now the trial period is over, I deinstalled the above software, and think I manually also deleted all relevant folders, yet, the original spell checker is dead. Means: although the German dictionary is installed AND the language for the text set to German, ALL I ever get back from the spell checker - even if I intentionally introduce obvious mistakes - spell check is complete. Windows XP, LibreOffice 3.3.3 (build 301) Is there a trick to reactivate something that did work fine before? Thank you in advance Thomas -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Differences between LibreOffice 3.3 and 3.4
Pedro, thank you. The problem is that as an enterprise that sees IT as tertiary means of production (as opposed to technology-driven enterprises such as Google or Microsoft) we're extremely conservative when it comes to software. The latest and greatest is never our first choice, and features are a distant fourth to stability, reliability, and dependability. Right now I'm leaning towards the well-established and therefore more stable 3.3 release tomsave myself the hassle of new features and thus also new bugs. Is there a simple comparison between 3.3 and 3.4 that shows what 3.4 is capable of that 3.3 isn't? Maybe there's something we really need but don't know yet. Something that'd be worth the extra work and effort necessary to deploy 3.4 instead of 3.3? Right now it's more like a clusterf*ck of two separate feature sets with no easy way of comparison. Thanks, Martin -- Rieke Computersysteme GmbH Hellerholz 5 D-82061 Neuried HRB Muenchen 73617 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Differences between LibreOffice 3.3 and 3.4
The 3.3.x line will be ending with 3.3.5, and 3.4.x will end with 3.4.5. Before that happens, the 3.5.x line will start. What happens is the newest line is used as the most cutting edge for its first few versions. Once it gets past 3.x.3, it starts being stable for businesses and enterprise use. The initial cutting edge options have most of their bugs fixed and it becomes the default version people will start using. You could use 3.3.4, but for the best ability and options, you need to go to 3.4.3 or 3.4.4 [with 3.4.4 just coming out] I use both. These versions read and write the Microsoft Office .docx and the other x file formats better than the 3.3.x line, or at least in my opinion. Soon 3.5.x will come out for those who want to have the most cutting edge version of LibreOffice. For businesses, I would stick with 3.4.4, or 3.3.4 but would prefer to have the 3.4.x line being used. If you want to use 3.4.3, since 3.4.4 just came out http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/ holds the past versions. As I said, I use both 3.4.3 and 3.4.4. Actually the 3.4.3 version is still on my Ubuntu desktop since I have not updated it yet. My Windows laptop, and a few other Windows machines, have all been updated to 3.4.4. On 11/18/2011 07:15 AM, Onyeibo Oku wrote: Go for 3.4 period - from twohot@device.mobile :) -Original Message- From: Martin Jungowskimar...@rhm.de Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:06:34 To:users@global.libreoffice.org Reply-To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Differences between LibreOffice 3.3 and 3.4 Recently, we've started the second phase of our company-wide migration from OpenOffice.org 3.2 to 3.3 and have encountered massive problems on our Linux terminal servers. They were so big that we've decided to put the project on hold for now and start looking for alternatives. Obviously, LibreOffice is our #1 choice here. However, even though I've been browsing the LO website for two days now I am unable to decide whether 3.3 or 3.4 would be better for us. As far as I can see they are both recommended for enterprise use in production environments but what I'm missing is a clear marketing-bubble free technical comparison. Does that exist? Or maybe an overview over what (enterprise-related) features 3.4 might have that 3.3 doesn't? Thanks in advance, Martin -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] alternative to openclipart
I have several of their collections in archive/compressed form. Near the bottom of this page is those collections. http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/artwork.html Their names are: Fall 2010 Halloween 2010 Sports 2010 Sprint 2010 Summer 2010 Thanksgiving 2010 and Winter Holidays 2010. The error for Open Clipart pages shows quote: The site has been experiencing some backend performance issues and is currently down for maintenance. We will bring the site back online soon when we can resolve those issues. OSUOSL Staff unquote: So if you want to try their collections, go to my link. But if you want to browse the web, a Google search list many sites with free clipart sites. On 11/18/2011 06:15 AM, e-letter wrote: Readers, The web server for openclipart is disabled; does anyone know similar web sites that are available to obtain pictures/icons/etc.? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Differences between LibreOffice 3.3 and 3.4
Martin Jungowski wrote: The latest and greatest is never our first choice, and features are a distant fourth to stability, reliability, and dependability. Right now I'm leaning towards the well-established and therefore more stable 3.3 release tomsave myself the hassle of new features and thus also new bugs. I see your point. And since TDF did not release any 3.3.5 changes (i.e. no fixes were backported) it must mean that any bugs that affected line 3.3.x must be solved (or they weren't detected meanwhile...) If version 3.2 had all the features you needed, then I agree you are better off with 3.3.x Martin Jungowski wrote: Is there a simple comparison between 3.3 and 3.4 that shows what 3.4 is capable of that 3.3 isn't? Maybe there's something we really need but don't know yet. Something that'd be worth the extra work and effort necessary to deploy 3.4 instead of 3.3? Right now it's more like a clusterf*ck of two separate feature sets with no easy way of comparison. The simple answer is no. There isn't such a clear cut table . I guess that's what separates a big company with a Marketing department and a group of well intentioned people with no commercial vision :) What Office modules/functions does your company use? All? Mainly Write? Do you use Microsoft formats to exchange documents with other companies? Do you use Office 2007/2010 Open XML i.e. OOXML formats? Do you produce leaflets in Draw? Do you use SVG vector art? This kind of information would help in advising you... -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Differences-between-LibreOffice-3-3-and-3-4-tp3518436p3518798.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Differences between LibreOffice 3.3 and 3.4
Hi Martin, Martin Jungowski wrote (18-11-11 15:13) Pedro, thank you. The problem is that as an enterprise that sees IT as tertiary means of production (as opposed to technology-driven enterprises such as Google or Microsoft) we're extremely conservative when it comes to software. Very understandable. The latest and greatest is never our first choice, and features are a distant fourth to stability, reliability, and dependability. There also are quite some improvements in 3.4.x regarding stability, reliability, speed, interoperability. It's not at all only about features! Right now I'm leaning towards the well-established and therefore more stable 3.3 release tomsave myself the hassle of new features and thus also new bugs. There will be some new, but as explained most important have been solved. And older ones have been solved. This container issue tells about 3.4 fixes: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35673 Is there a simple comparison between 3.3 and 3.4 that shows what 3.4 is capable of that 3.3 isn't? Maybe there's something we really need but don't know yet. Well, the pages that Pedro pointed to. Something that'd be worth the extra work and effort necessary to deploy 3.4 instead of 3.3? The whole point in a relatively long support for 3.3.x, is that we do not want to force companies to change to a new minor version fast. Therefore the bug fix releases were made. But when you start now, it will be just as easy to start with 3.4.x. And in a month or two, there will be the 3.4.5 See wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan Right now it's more like a clusterf*ck of two separate feature sets with no easy way of comparison. What might be very advisable, if you work for a company, is to consider a support contract. That will provide you with the certainty of attention for your needs, and thus when relevant needed fixes. On the other side for a amount of money that is very modest compared to the other choice, you will add value to the future, this sustainability and improvement of the software of your choice :-) Kind regards, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Differences between LibreOffice 3.3 and 3.4
On 11/18/2011 09:13 AM, Martin Jungowski wrote: Pedro, thank you. The problem is that as an enterprise that sees IT as tertiary means of production (as opposed to technology-driven enterprises such as Google or Microsoft) we're extremely conservative when it comes to software. The latest and greatest is never our first choice, and features are a distant fourth to stability, reliability, and dependability. Right now I'm leaning towards the well-established and therefore more stable 3.3 release tomsave myself the hassle of new features and thus also new bugs. Is there a simple comparison between 3.3 and 3.4 that shows what 3.4 is capable of that 3.3 isn't? Maybe there's something we really need but don't know yet. Something that'd be worth the extra work and effort necessary to deploy 3.4 instead of 3.3? Right now it's more like a clusterf*ck of two separate feature sets with no easy way of comparison. Thanks, Martin 3.4.X is better at handling MSO msox formats than 3.3.X. Because external users may send say a docx or xslx file to your users I recommend using 3.4.3/4. Both are lines are considered ready for enterprise users - 3.4.X since 3.4.3. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Differences between LibreOffice 3.3 and 3.4
Am 18.11.2011 15:54, schrieb Pedro: What Office modules/functions does your company use? All? Mainly Write? Do you use Microsoft formats to exchange documents with other companies? Do you use Office 2007/2010 Open XML i.e. OOXML formats? Do you produce leaflets in Draw? Do you use SVG vector art? This kind of information would help in advising you... Since we have somewhere between 1.500 and 2.000 users I'd say pretty much most of it ;) Compatibility with MSOOXML is a big thing though, and it was the main reason why we started looking at OOo 3.3.0 in the first place. I've learned that MS OOXML compatibility was significantly improved with 3.4 and am going to take a closer look at it now. Best, Martin -- Rieke Computersysteme GmbH Hellerholz 5 D-82061 Neuried HRB Muenchen 73617 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Differences between LibreOffice 3.3 and 3.4
Am 18.11.2011 16:04, schrieb Jay Lozier: 3.4.X is better at handling MSO msox formats than 3.3.X. Because external users may send say a docx or xslx file to your users I recommend using 3.4.3/4. Both are lines are considered ready for enterprise users - 3.4.X since 3.4.3. That I would consider a show stopper for 3.3, thank you Jay. The only reason, why we started deploying OpenOffice.org 3.3 in the first place, was improved compatibility with MSOOXML. I'll ask some users for documents that they were unable to open in OOo 3.2 and see how LibO 3.3 and 3.4 handle them. Thanks, Martin -- Rieke Computersysteme GmbH Hellerholz 5 D-82061 Neuried HRB Muenchen 73617 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Suggestion Find Replace
In the FIND REPLACE box, you show 'Whole words only,' and, in More Options, you show 'Regular Expressions.' I would like to suggest that these two items be radio buttons, with maybe a third button, 'Off.' Default would be 'Off.' Currently (3.4.2), 'Whole words' turns off with program termination, while 'Expressions' remains ON. Thank you. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Suggestion-Find-Replace-tp3519002p3519002.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Styles not saving
On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 22:39 -0800, Pedro wrote: drewjensen wrote: How to apply a template to an existing Calc file? This is a quite interesting thread. I'm learning a lot from it ;) I would say there isn't a way to change the template unless Andre Schnable modifies his extension to apply to Calc files as well :) Well, the extension is OSS and written in LibOBasic, so anyone is able to read the code and make changes. Apparentely you can't even use styles from another Spreadsheet or Template because there is no New Style from Selection button in Calc's Style and Formatting toolbar. True - though you can still create a new default template of course. hmm - so I wonder if the lack of import style is because there is no API for it, or just no GUI support? Spending some time at http://api.libreoffice.org/ might answer that question. [Look in the IDL reference] Another good resource is Andrew Pitonyak's documents on Basic programming for OO.o at http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php Of course touching base with Heir Schnabel [Add a comment to the extension page maybe] wouldn't be a bad idea at all. Who knows your update just might make into a future release :) http://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Using_Styles_From_Another_Document_or_Template BTW There is an error in the Extensions site: Template Changer (was it added today?) is named without any file extension (in this case should be .oxt) Yes - a known issue IIRC. Best wishes, //drew -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] MS Formats revisited, a quote from MS.com
Hi :) We often argue about formats, especially MS ones, so i thought people might be interested in a quote from microsoft.com ... http://office.microsoft.com/en-gb/sharepoint-server-help/microsoft-office-servers-2010-faq-readme-HA101793217.aspx Document Layout Microsoft Office 2010 documents may lay out differently on Windows Vista and Windows 2008 Server compared to Windows XP and Windows 7. Microsoft Office 2010 includes the latest version of several fonts also available in Windows 7. However, Office 2010 cannot install these fonts on Windows Vista or Windows 2008 Server because they are system protected on these operating systems. As a result, Office 2010 documents may lay out differently on e.g., Windows 7 and Windows Vista. This issue is fixed in an update for Windows Vista and for Windows Server 2008. This update removes the system file protection of some font files. Important Users who have already installed Office 2010 on Windows Vista and Windows 2008 Server, and willing to get the latest version of the fonts, must first uninstall Office 2010, and then install the Windows update prior to re-installing Office 2010. To install this update, follow the instructions in the following Microsoft Knowledge Base article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/980248.; I always thought it was just between MS Office 2007 and MS Office 2010 but apparently the same program installed on different Windows OSes (ie Xp vs 7) may have been a main cause of problems that people have had. We often ask what OS enquirers are using but never ask what version of an OS their clients/colleagues/co-workers are sending from or receiving documents on!! Apparently with Windows at both ends there is likely to be a problem! (unless both ends use Xp) Regards fromTom :) -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Differences between LibreOffice 3.3 and 3.4
Hi :) I am happy with 3.3.2 on Ubuntu machines and 3.4.3 on Windows machines. Both seem very stable and no problems so far, especially compared to MS Office which is running alongside as the default Office Suite. Regards from Tom :) -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Different Terminology
In LibreOffice, we have Find Replace. In Nabble, I find Search and Replace. Does the computer recognize that (Find) and (Search) are the same; or that () and (and) are the same; or that these two phrases are the same? What I am really asking is, does it matter what I search for? Thank you. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Different-Terminology-tp3519033p3519033.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] reactivate spell checker
Hi Thomas, 2011/11/18 Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: Good evening from Japan Recently I have tried a demo version of the German (commercial) spell checker Duden Rechtschreibpruefung. Now the trial period is over, I deinstalled the above software, and think I manually also deleted all relevant folders, yet, the original spell checker is dead. What folders? ;) Usually, removing 'Duden Korrektor' via Extension Manager would be enough. Means: although the German dictionary is installed AND the language for the text set to German, ALL I ever get back from the spell checker - even if I intentionally introduce obvious mistakes - spell check is complete. Windows XP, LibreOffice 3.3.3 (build 301) Is there a trick to reactivate something that did work fine before? Thank you in advance Thomas Please check Tools Options Language Settings Writing Aids Available language modules Edit... German (Germany): - all checkmarks set? - visible ABC-symbol previous to 'German (Germany)? mjk -- Media Used For Presentations At The LibreOffice Conference 2011 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/SpecialEvents/LibreOffice_Conference_2011_Paris#Media_Used_For_Presentations_At_The_LibreOffice_Conference_2011 -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Differences between LibreOffice 3.3 and 3.4
On 11/18/2011 09:54 AM, Pedro wrote: Martin Jungowski wrote: The latest and greatest is never our first choice, and features are a distant fourth to stability, reliability, and dependability. Right now I'm leaning towards the well-established and therefore more stable 3.3 release tomsave myself the hassle of new features and thus also new bugs. I see your point. And since TDF did not release any 3.3.5 changes (i.e. no fixes were backported) it must mean that any bugs that affected line 3.3.x must be solved (or they weren't detected meanwhile...) If version 3.2 had all the features you needed, then I agree you are better off with 3.3.x There is no LibreOffice 3.2.x versions. OOo had one but LO started with 3.3.0 as their first version in January. Version 3.3.5 has not come out yet, and it looks like it is now being skipped. see http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan 3.4.5 is scheduled for Jan 11th 2012. [last of the 3.4.x line] 3.5.0 is scheduled for Feb 8th 2012. [3.5.6 - out Oct 17th 2012 as the last of that line] 3.6.0 is scheduled for Aug 1st 2012. 3.7.0 is scheduled for Feb 6th 2013. Martin Jungowski wrote: Is there a simple comparison between 3.3 and 3.4 that shows what 3.4 is capable of that 3.3 isn't? Maybe there's something we really need but don't know yet. Something that'd be worth the extra work and effort necessary to deploy 3.4 instead of 3.3? Right now it's more like a clusterf*ck of two separate feature sets with no easy way of comparison. The simple answer is no. There isn't such a clear cut table . I guess that's what separates a big company with a Marketing department and a group of well intentioned people with no commercial vision :) What Office modules/functions does your company use? All? Mainly Write? Do you use Microsoft formats to exchange documents with other companies? Do you use Office 2007/2010 Open XML i.e. OOXML formats? Do you produce leaflets in Draw? Do you use SVG vector art? This kind of information would help in advising you... -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Differences-between-LibreOffice-3-3-and-3-4-tp3518436p3518798.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. As far as I have seen, 3.4.3 seemed to open my .docx files a little better than 3.3.3 or 3.3.4. But that may be subjective on my part. As far as I am concerned, 3.4.3 or 3.4.4 would work well for any business and I would give the businesses I deal with a copy of my 3.4.4 DVD, when I make it. I have given out my 3.4.3 DVD to many businesses so far as either a new version to replace the one I have already given them, or as their first version of LibreOffice. As the above text asks, it would be helpful to know what your users would be doing with LibreOffice. Since you did state something about already having them use OOo 3.2.x, their move to LibreOffice would easy as the current menu interface [non-Unity desktop users] is mostly the same as OOo 3.2.x. I went from OOo to LibreOffice in February when I first heard of LibreOffice. I did not find anything different than what I was using with OOo, for menu structures and such, but did find that LibreOffice had more options and functions included than my last used version of OOo. Now that LO is so much beyond what OOo was, LO is my only choice for a MS Office alternative. It is my only choice now since I use a Linux desktop as my primary system. I had MSO 2003 installed with OOo when I was using Windows on my primary system till I bought this system in Feb 2010. Then I switched over to all open-source software whether I was using my Ubuntu 10.04 LTS system or my XP or Vista systems. I find that if I have MSO and LO installed on my loan-out systems, most people seem to choose LO instead of MSO when I tell them I prefer LO. I have an old Compaq system I am getting ready for loaning to a lady who is in her early 70's and she tell me that Writer is just what she needs, and she makes a face when I ask her about Word. So in your business, I would go with 3.4.3 or 3.4.4 over 3.3.4, but you can download them and try each of them on your system to decide which one works the best for your needs and your users' needs. I gave you 3.4.3, since some people do not like to install a version that just came out a few weeks ago. Just like I would not recommend a software version that ends with .0 if there is scheduled release of .1 coming out in a month or two. slightly off topic: What languages do your users need to use? Localized English - American, British, Oxford, Canadian, or other version? Localized Spanish - Cuba, Spain, Argentina, Mexican, etc.? There are over 180 different spell-checking dictionaries, thesaurus [included or separate ones] available. Here is a link to the largest list for LO [till LO gets them all in their Extension Center] http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.4-installs/dictionary.html For English [American,
[libreoffice-users] Re: Styles not saving
drewjensen wrote: On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 22:39 -0800, Pedro wrote: drewjensen wrote: How to apply a template to an existing Calc file? This is a quite interesting thread. I'm learning a lot from it ;) I would say there isn't a way to change the template unless Andre Schnable modifies his extension to apply to Calc files as well :) Well, the extension is OSS and written in LibOBasic, so anyone is able to read the code and make changes. Apparentely you can't even use styles from another Spreadsheet or Template because there is no New Style from Selection button in Calc's Style and Formatting toolbar. True - though you can still create a new default template of course. This doesn't seem to be true. I can create a style from selection in calc. What's almost an insult to injury is that I cannot add a column width to that style, which would be most helpful. The style created is a paragraph style, it looks, from looking at Templates Organize. See the attached image of Calc and Styles menu, you'll see the Add Style from Selection button second from the right. http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n3519173/Screen_Shot_2011-11-18_at_08.51.36_.png Also of note, when I save a blank template with styles as default, it does keep column width and the paragraph style, per my saved template. @Jack/Stephan -- I don't want to save the style to the csv, I'm aware that is not possible. I simply want to apply a style for editorial purposes while I am viewing the file. However, the issue is, I have to create the style in each individual document in order to apply it. That completely obliterates the efficiency of having a style. In essence, I want add a new style into the actual default settings opened by Calc. It looks like there is something that is defined as Spreadsheet that you can reset to once you've changed your default. I think that is where I want to make my changes. No such luck finding that file, though, digging through Application Support (on OS X) and in the Application package. There was a presets dir there, but empty. Alas, no easy editing for me. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Styles-not-saving-tp3517061p3519173.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Ubuntu update manager decided to replace my 3.4.3 with 3.3.3
I just tried to add an extension and got an error about needed at least 3.4 to install. Since I know I installed 3.4.3 when it came out, I looked into what was going on. I remember Ubuntu 10.04 LTS dealing with a few large Linux core updates over the past month or two. I wonder if one of these updates decided to update its repository version of LO from 3.3.2 to 3.3.3 and then to install it on my system. Since I know I installed 3.4.3 when it came out, this is the only way it could have happened. I found both 3.3.x and 3.4.x packages installed while I was looking in the package manager. I know I un-installed all of the 3.3.x packages before I installed the 3.4.x ones, so it must have been the updating system that installed them again. So I just un-installed the 3.3.3 packages [again] and installed the 3.4.4 packages. It was weird that the Office menu showed LO 3.4 but it opened 3.3.3, along with the desktop 3.4 icons, but the panel icons that were for 3.4.3 would not open LO at all. I wish there would be some system withing Ubuntu's update manager that would look to see if newer version of that packages were installed, before it decided to upgrade them back to the older versions in their repository. I have many packages, besides LO, that were manually installed with newer version over what is in the Ubuntu repositories. HP's printer driver install utility package, Artha [offline thesaurus] and Devede [creates TV-DVDs from computer video files] are just three of them. So, maybe someone in the top board/committee of TDF/LO might look into this situation with the distros and ask why this is being done? It is never nice for a distro to downgrade you package version without you knowing about it. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Styles not saving
I think I found a solution (it's a workaround really) Open one of your CSVs and format all the cells, columns, fonts, etc as you see fit. Then save this file as ODS (so you can keep all this formatting). You can now delete the cells values if you prefer to keep this Template clean. Now open one of your unformated CSVs Switch back to the open ODS and click on the corner header (left of A and above 1) or Edit, Select All or Ctrl+A (in Windows) and Ctrl+C (or Edit, Copy) Switch to the CSV, click on the corner header and choose Edit, Paste Special (or Ctrl+Shift+V) Uncheck the Paste All option and uncheck all options in Selection except for Formats. Your CSV should look perfectly formatted now (if the lines and columns are constant from one CSV to the next, of course :) ) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Styles-not-saving-tp3517061p3519244.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Suggestion Find Replace
Have you looked into the Alternate version of Search Replace extension? Does it work better for your needs? I was just wondering. Since Thomas went and created an alternative version, it might be better than the one that is default for LO. Below is a quote about it from the OOo extension site [which still works sporadically] quote: Alternative dialog Find Replace for Writer by Tomas Bilek * Fast selection preset regular and extended expressions * Searched or replaced text can contain one or more paragraphs * Search out block of paragraphs delimited by two text marks * Multiple search and replacement in one step * Searching: Notes, Text fields, Cross-references and Reference marks to their content, name or mark and their inserting * Searching and inserting Footnote and Endnote (from version OOo 2.3 only). It is possible to select at once texts of all footnotes or endnotes and to assign them any style * Searching object of Tables, Pictures and Text frames according to their name; it is possible to substitute them by any text, etc. * Changing into found or replaced text: paragraph style, character style, list style and Hyperlink's URL and set properties * Inserting and replacement: clipboard contents, insert replacement counter and page number * Hexadecimal also decimal submission character for search and replaced * Searching out manual page and column break and their set up or deactivation * Searching similarly or the same manually formatted part of text, according to cursor point * Count found occurrences * Redirecting result of replacing expression to the other text file * Batch mode: saving and loading of search and replacement parameters; it is possible to save several searching and replacing subsequently to the single sequence and that whole quickly execute after * Self dialogue for quick assignment of key shortcut to batches * Preserve capitalization - If found text begins with a capital letter, also the text replacement will begin with a capital letter * Searching for paragraph, character and list style; possibility to choose a style from the menu * Built-in help (http://www.volny.cz/macrojtb/HelpAltSearch_en.html) * Language: English, Czech, Russian, Spanish, German, French, Dutch, Italian unquote: I have attached it to this posting for the copy that I have sent directly to you. For the list, I include the direct link from the OOo site. http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/download/4114 It does not look like it is on the LO Extension Center, yet. . On 11/18/2011 11:26 AM, 20rdj04 wrote: In the FIND REPLACE box, you show 'Whole words only,' and, in More Options, you show 'Regular Expressions.' I would like to suggest that these two items be radio buttons, with maybe a third button, 'Off.' Default would be 'Off.' Currently (3.4.2), 'Whole words' turns off with program termination, while 'Expressions' remains ON. Thank you. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Suggestion-Find-Replace-tp3519002p3519002.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] MS Formats revisited, a quote from MS.com
I wonder why you are required to uninstall MSO 2010 before the updates, and then reinstall it? Should you not get the fixes with the Office updates or the OS updates and not have one interfering with the other? But that is Windows and MSO for you. I was download the updates for an XP system that had Office 2003 and it automatically downloaded MSO 2010 security updates as well as the MSO 2003 updates. Then it gave me a nasty dialog telling me that I cannot use this MSO 2010 security update since I do not have it. The automatic update system chose that package, not me. Another MS mess up and message that you need to install their latest and greatest product line. I had MSO 2003 in the XP system, just in case the user wanted to use Word instead of Writer, since that users use to have a laptop with Word on it. This is another reason I prefer Linux and LO. On 11/18/2011 11:29 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) We often argue about formats, especially MS ones, so i thought people might be interested in a quote from microsoft.com ... http://office.microsoft.com/en-gb/sharepoint-server-help/microsoft-office-servers-2010-faq-readme-HA101793217.aspx Document Layout Microsoft Office 2010 documents may lay out differently on Windows Vista and Windows 2008 Server compared to Windows XP and Windows 7. Microsoft Office 2010 includes the latest version of several fonts also available in Windows 7. However, Office 2010 cannot install these fonts on Windows Vista or Windows 2008 Server because they are system protected on these operating systems. As a result, Office 2010 documents may lay out differently on e.g., Windows 7 and Windows Vista. This issue is fixed in an update for Windows Vista and for Windows Server 2008. This update removes the system file protection of some font files. ImportantUsers who have already installed Office 2010 on Windows Vista and Windows 2008 Server, and willing to get the latest version of the fonts, must first uninstall Office 2010, and then install the Windows update prior to re-installing Office 2010. To install this update, follow the instructions in the following Microsoft Knowledge Base article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/980248.; I always thought it was just between MS Office 2007 and MS Office 2010 but apparently the same program installed on different Windows OSes (ie Xp vs 7) may have been a main cause of problems that people have had. We often ask what OS enquirers are using but never ask what version of an OS their clients/colleagues/co-workers are sending from or receiving documents on!! Apparently with Windows at both ends there is likely to be a problem! (unless both ends use Xp) Regards fromTom :) -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Styles not saving
On Fri, 2011-11-18 at 09:27 -0800, warutledge wrote: drewjensen wrote: On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 22:39 -0800, Pedro wrote: drewjensen wrote: How to apply a template to an existing Calc file? This is a quite interesting thread. I'm learning a lot from it ;) I would say there isn't a way to change the template unless Andre Schnable modifies his extension to apply to Calc files as well :) Well, the extension is OSS and written in LibOBasic, so anyone is able to read the code and make changes. Apparentely you can't even use styles from another Spreadsheet or Template because there is no New Style from Selection button in Calc's Style and Formatting toolbar. True - though you can still create a new default template of course. This doesn't seem to be true. I can create a style from selection in calc. Right - I was only commenting on the 'Load Styles' function, which is not present for Calc. snip //drew -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] MS Formats revisited, a quote from MS.com
Hi :) The page is about installing multiple versions of MS Office on a single machine. I don't want to lose the MSO that works while trying to install something that may or may not work. MS say they don't recommend having 2 versions of MSO. So, clearly they are quite happy with the idea of someone being left in the lurch if any 'unexpected' problems arise. Yes, +1 to GnuLinux but particularly +1 to LibreOffice (and OpenOffice too) on any platform. Regards from Tom :) --- On Fri, 18/11/11, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productions webmas...@krackedpress.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] MS Formats revisited, a quote from MS.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Friday, 18 November, 2011, 18:06 I wonder why you are required to uninstall MSO 2010 before the updates, and then reinstall it? Should you not get the fixes with the Office updates or the OS updates and not have one interfering with the other? But that is Windows and MSO for you. I was download the updates for an XP system that had Office 2003 and it automatically downloaded MSO 2010 security updates as well as the MSO 2003 updates. Then it gave me a nasty dialog telling me that I cannot use this MSO 2010 security update since I do not have it. The automatic update system chose that package, not me. Another MS mess up and message that you need to install their latest and greatest product line. I had MSO 2003 in the XP system, just in case the user wanted to use Word instead of Writer, since that users use to have a laptop with Word on it. This is another reason I prefer Linux and LO. On 11/18/2011 11:29 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) We often argue about formats, especially MS ones, so i thought people might be interested in a quote from microsoft.com ... http://office.microsoft.com/en-gb/sharepoint-server-help/microsoft-office-servers-2010-faq-readme-HA101793217.aspx Document Layout Microsoft Office 2010 documents may lay out differently on Windows Vista and Windows 2008 Server compared to Windows XP and Windows 7. Microsoft Office 2010 includes the latest version of several fonts also available in Windows 7. However, Office 2010 cannot install these fonts on Windows Vista or Windows 2008 Server because they are system protected on these operating systems. As a result, Office 2010 documents may lay out differently on e.g., Windows 7 and Windows Vista. This issue is fixed in an update for Windows Vista and for Windows Server 2008. This update removes the system file protection of some font files. Important Users who have already installed Office 2010 on Windows Vista and Windows 2008 Server, and willing to get the latest version of the fonts, must first uninstall Office 2010, and then install the Windows update prior to re-installing Office 2010. To install this update, follow the instructions in the following Microsoft Knowledge Base article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/980248.; I always thought it was just between MS Office 2007 and MS Office 2010 but apparently the same program installed on different Windows OSes (ie Xp vs 7) may have been a main cause of problems that people have had. We often ask what OS enquirers are using but never ask what version of an OS their clients/colleagues/co-workers are sending from or receiving documents on!! Apparently with Windows at both ends there is likely to be a problem! (unless both ends use Xp) Regards fromTom :) -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] MS Formats revisited, a quote from MS.com
I have no experience with any MSO newer than 2003 [full package], unless it is their trial versions. I have used MSO 95 through 2003 from work, college, and at my home/office. I will not buy MSO 2010 or the next version, but will accept a copy from friends or clients. I do not think it is worth my paying their fees for their package, for options I may never want or need to use. That is one reason I tell people to use LO. You never have to pay for the updates or upgrades. It is free from your first download [or the version I provide them on DVD or CDs]. Better package without needing to pull out your credit card. Free is great in this economy, or any economy, plus more and more local,regional, national governments and government agencies world wide is dropping MSO for the free open-source alternative[s], along with small scale to world-wide scale companies are joining the open-source movement for dropping MSO in favor of open-source office suites. Then I tell them that LO is the best open-source office suite and if you Google its name, you will find 100's of articles praising LO as the best FOSS option currently on the market. As for multiple copies of ant office package, whether it is MSO LO, or OOo, I would not want to do that. MSO and LO on the same system works, if needed, but not two of the same package or LO and OOo on the same system. Never worked for me, and I do not really see the point unless you are to work with RC versions while keeping a stable version for your normal work environment. On 11/18/2011 01:57 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) The page is about installing multiple versions of MS Office on a single machine. I don't want to lose the MSO that works while trying to install something that may or may not work. MS say they don't recommend having 2 versions of MSO. So, clearly they are quite happy with the idea of someone being left in the lurch if any 'unexpected' problems arise. Yes, +1 to GnuLinux but particularly +1 to LibreOffice (and OpenOffice too) on any platform. Regards from Tom :) --- On Fri, 18/11/11, webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: From: webmaster for Kracked Press Productionswebmas...@krackedpress.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] MS Formats revisited, a quote from MS.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Friday, 18 November, 2011, 18:06 I wonder why you are required to uninstall MSO 2010 before the updates, and then reinstall it? Should you not get the fixes with the Office updates or the OS updates and not have one interfering with the other? But that is Windows and MSO for you. I was download the updates for an XP system that had Office 2003 and it automatically downloaded MSO 2010 security updates as well as the MSO 2003 updates. Then it gave me a nasty dialog telling me that I cannot use this MSO 2010 security update since I do not have it. The automatic update system chose that package, not me. Another MS mess up and message that you need to install their latest and greatest product line. I had MSO 2003 in the XP system, just in case the user wanted to use Word instead of Writer, since that users use to have a laptop with Word on it. This is another reason I prefer Linux and LO. On 11/18/2011 11:29 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) We often argue about formats, especially MS ones, so i thought people might be interested in a quote from microsoft.com ... http://office.microsoft.com/en-gb/sharepoint-server-help/microsoft-office-servers-2010-faq-readme-HA101793217.aspx Document Layout Microsoft Office 2010 documents may lay out differently on Windows Vista and Windows 2008 Server compared to Windows XP and Windows 7. Microsoft Office 2010 includes the latest version of several fonts also available in Windows 7. However, Office 2010 cannot install these fonts on Windows Vista or Windows 2008 Server because they are system protected on these operating systems. As a result, Office 2010 documents may lay out differently on e.g., Windows 7 and Windows Vista. This issue is fixed in an update for Windows Vista and for Windows Server 2008. This update removes the system file protection of some font files. ImportantUsers who have already installed Office 2010 on Windows Vista and Windows 2008 Server, and willing to get the latest version of the fonts, must first uninstall Office 2010, and then install the Windows update prior to re-installing Office 2010. To install this update, follow the instructions in the following Microsoft Knowledge Base article: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/980248.; I always thought it was just between MS Office 2007 and MS Office 2010 but apparently the same program installed on different Windows OSes (ie Xp vs 7) may have been a main cause of problems that people have had. We often ask what OS enquirers are using but never ask what version of an OS their clients/colleagues/co-workers are sending from or receiving
[libreoffice-users] Re: Differences between LibreOffice 3.3 and 3.4
On 11/18/2011 04:15 AM, Onyeibo Oku wrote: Go for 3.4 period Unless of course these samples of bugs affect you: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42684 [FILEOPEN very slow, network/dns related, it takes about 15 minutes] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42639 [EDITING: Writer crashes on copy and pasting] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38310 [Text (.txt) files by default open in Calc] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32948 [Address Book Data Source Wizard Doesn't Work] - from twohot@device.mobile :) -Original Message- From: Martin Jungowski mar...@rhm.de Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:06:34 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Reply-To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Differences between LibreOffice 3.3 and 3.4 Recently, we've started the second phase of our company-wide migration from OpenOffice.org 3.2 to 3.3 and have encountered massive problems on our Linux terminal servers. They were so big that we've decided to put the project on hold for now and start looking for alternatives. Obviously, LibreOffice is our #1 choice here. However, even though I've been browsing the LO website for two days now I am unable to decide whether 3.3 or 3.4 would be better for us. As far as I can see they are both recommended for enterprise use in production environments but what I'm missing is a clear marketing-bubble free technical comparison. Does that exist? Or maybe an overview over what (enterprise-related) features 3.4 might have that 3.3 doesn't? Thanks in advance, Martin -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] alternative to openclipart
Hi :) It seems that they expect to be back up and running in a few days time. It might be possible to download a large amount of the images and then browse them on your own machine? http://download.openclipart.org/downloads/ Is there something similar within the CreativeCommons project or do they mirror the selection in some way? http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Case_Studies/Open_clip_art_library Regards from Tom :) --- On Fri, 18/11/11, e-letter inp...@gmail.com wrote: From: e-letter inp...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-users] alternative to openclipart To: users users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Friday, 18 November, 2011, 11:15 Readers, The web server for openclipart is disabled; does anyone know similar web sites that are available to obtain pictures/icons/etc.? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Microsoft Works-2
John Gregson jfgregson at shaw.ca writes: First, I want to thank all who replied to to my first Posting. I'm using Win7 Libre Office 3.4.4 I can now open some of the MS Works, Word Processor files (.WPS) However, I find that any Works file .wps; that has a Table in it will not open in Libre Office. Am I missing something? Hello John, yes, unfortunately, the library libwps (used in LibreOffice) does not actually know how to read a table structure ; so normally, a file which contains some tables must be converted in a new file without any table. This functionality is pretty difficult to add because : - with the oldest versions of MS Works, a table seems to be stored in a WKS attachment ; so first, we will need to decode the WKS format :-) - with the newer versions of MS Works, even if for each table, it seems possible to find the zones of text which appear in its cells, retrieving the table structure (ie. finding the position of each cell in the table, ... ) seems difficult :-~ Osnola. PS: if you want to add a bug/request for this functionality, the best place is probably http://sourceforge.net/projects/libwps/ ( tracker menu )... -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Differences between LibreOffice 3.3 and 3.4
NoOp wrote (18-11-11 22:39) Unless of course these samples of bugs affect you: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42684 [FILEOPEN very slow, network/dns related, it takes about 15 minutes] Added to #fdo35673 - most annoying 3.4.x bugs https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42639 [EDITING: Writer crashes on copy and pasting] Very exceptional document apparently.. See my comments in the bug. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38310 [Text (.txt) files by default open in Calc] No problem for me. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32948 [Address Book Data Source Wizard Doesn't Work] Cannot reproduce that either. Best, -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] alternative to openclipart
In the LibreOffice-NA.US site, we have Open Clipart collections, almost 72 Meg of zipped files, from 2010. Until they come back up, you could download the artwork on that site. One reason for a DVD was to have most everything you need without needing to go online. On 11/18/2011 04:56 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) It seems that they expect to be back up and running in a few days time. It might be possible to download a large amount of the images and then browse them on your own machine? http://download.openclipart.org/downloads/ Is there something similar within the CreativeCommons project or do they mirror the selection in some way? http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Case_Studies/Open_clip_art_library Regards from Tom :) --- On Fri, 18/11/11, e-letterinp...@gmail.com wrote: From: e-letterinp...@gmail.com Subject: [libreoffice-users] alternative to openclipart To: usersusers@global.libreoffice.org Date: Friday, 18 November, 2011, 11:15 Readers, The web server for openclipart is disabled; does anyone know similar web sites that are available to obtain pictures/icons/etc.? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Differences between LibreOffice 3.3 and 3.4
On 11/18/2011 02:32 PM, Cor Nouws wrote: NoOp wrote (18-11-11 22:39) Unless of course these samples of bugs affect you: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42684 [FILEOPEN very slow, network/dns related, it takes about 15 minutes] Added to #fdo35673 - most annoying 3.4.x bugs https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42639 [EDITING: Writer crashes on copy and pasting] Very exceptional document apparently.. See my comments in the bug. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38310 [Text (.txt) files by default open in Calc] No problem for me. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32948 [Address Book Data Source Wizard Doesn't Work] Cannot reproduce that either. Best, Thank Cor, I'll retest this weekend. Gary -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Backspace key in IDE behaves as Delete Key instead.
Backspace key behaves correctly in Calc and in Writer. In the Basic IDE, however, it eats the character to the right of the cursor. Should eat the character to the left of the cursor. Toggling Insert and Overlay work as expected. Delete key as expected. Delete eats the character to the right of the cursor. Quick search through Bugzilla returned way too many results on Backspace. LO 3.4.4 (also observed in 3.4.3) on Windows XP, US English, Microsoft Natural Keyboard. -- David S. Crampton -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
