[libreoffice-users] macro to search and replace from a table?

[T. R. Valentine]

I want to do a Romanization of a text. I know I can write a (lengthy!)
macro to look for each possible character and substitute accordingly,
but was wondering if it would be possible to have a macro refer to a
substitution table which could be changed from time to time and do a
substitution for all the characters in a text according to the table?

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[libreoffice-users] Base Report Builder much better, but...

[Girvin Herr]

Greetings,
Using LO 3.6.7.2 under Linux.
I have just worked with Base Report Builder for a few hours and I must 
admit, it is *much* faster now than the last time I worked with it.  
Congrats to the devs for fixing the sloth bug(s).


However, I still see that lines still are not supported.  It appears as 
if I am inserting horizontal lines in my report, but they do not print.  
I do not see any way to make them thicker, in case that is the problem.


Second, the Report Headers do not seem to work as I expected.  The 
Report Footer section seems to be okay, but the Report Header section is 
under the Page Header on each page.  I expected them to be reversed - 
the Report Header first, followed by the Page Header, the latter which 
goes on each page, the former goes on the first page only.  As it is, 
the Page Header and Report Header are the same thing, going on each 
page. Is there a way to move the Report Header to page one only or is 
this a known bug?


The first is a human readability issue and the second would save paper, 
making room for more record data without my full headers on each page.  
Neither one is a show-stopper for me, just a would-be-nice if it were fixed.


Thanks again.
Girvin Herr


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Win XP Windows Installer Error - what was he fix again?

[Virgil Arrington]

By the way, what's the story behind X-Libreoffice? What's its function other 
than being portable?


Virgil

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From: Virgil Arrington

Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:57 PM
To: Pedro ; users@global.libreoffice.org
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was he fix again?


Pedro wrote,

If you unpack LibreOffice Portable or X-LibreOffice to your hard drive 
(e.g.

to C:\X-LibreOffice412) it will remain contained in the unpack folder. It
does *not* overwrite *any* files and it will not use your Profile files. 
So,

all is completely separate.



In fact if you miss some feature in version 3.5.7 you can get the
X-LibreOffice 3.5.7 release and run it *simultaneously* with version 4.0.5


Yes, you are right. In fact, I have, in the past, installed portable
versions of software to my hard drive, specifically because I like having
everything in one location, instead of having configuration files off in
another folder (appdata/roaming/libreoffice/4, etc.).

However, this time, I installed it to my jumpdrive because I wanted to use
it on multiple computers without having to install on each one.

Virgil

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Win XP Windows Installer Error - what was he fix again?

[Virgil Arrington]

Pedro wrote,

If you unpack LibreOffice Portable or X-LibreOffice to your hard drive 
(e.g.

to C:\X-LibreOffice412) it will remain contained in the unpack folder. It
does *not* overwrite *any* files and it will not use your Profile files. 
So,

all is completely separate.



In fact if you miss some feature in version 3.5.7 you can get the
X-LibreOffice 3.5.7 release and run it *simultaneously* with version 4.0.5


Yes, you are right. In fact, I have, in the past, installed portable 
versions of software to my hard drive, specifically because I like having 
everything in one location, instead of having configuration files off in 
another folder (appdata/roaming/libreoffice/4, etc.).


However, this time, I installed it to my jumpdrive because I wanted to use 
it on multiple computers without having to install on each one.


Virgil

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.1.2 Hebrew parentheses bug

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)  
Sorry!  I don't know and it looks like no-one else here knows either.  Iit 
might be better to ask on the international translators list, and subscribe to 
it; 

l...@global.libreoffice.org

If it were me, at this point i would probably just post a bug-report but 
definitely would return to the 4.0.x branch, preferably the 4.0.5 unless the .6 
has just come out and i've not noticed
Regards From 
Tom :)  






On Tuesday, 15 October 2013, 17:53, Gabriel Kaufman 
 wrote:
 
I just updated to LO 4.1.2 (English US) on Intel Mac OS X 10.7.5 and the 
parentheses mapping for Hebrew text seems to be broken. When I switch the input 
language to Hebrew, the parentheses are reversed when I use the Times New Roman 
font... However, some Hebrew fonts appear to be working properly.

Could this be a continuation of this problem:
http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/18912/bidirectional-text-and-closing-bracket-bug/

The most logical way to map the parenthesis is that the button 9 should give a 
left parenthesis and the button 0 should give a right parenthesis, regardless 
of OS input language, document language, or text direction. This is the way 
Hebrew behaves in other Mac applications such as TextEdit and Mail...


Please advise whether this bug is able to be fixed, and if there is anything I 
can do on my install to fix it.


Thank you in advance for your time and attention.

Best regards,

Gabriel Kaufman



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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Base Sub Forms

[Andrew Douglas Pitonyak]

If I remember correctly (and I have not looked at this in a while), I 
think that you need to link the "master and slave fields".


So, if you open your form in edit mode, load the form navigator, right 
click on your sub-form and choose properties, navigate to the Data tab, 
do the values in the "Link master fields" and "Link slave fields" look 
right to you?



On 10/15/2013 08:09 AM, Ian Whitfield wrote:


Hi All

I'm still stuck with LO Base Sub Forms!! I've been at this for some 
time, off and on, but over the past few months I have been very busy 
converting, editing and checking/updating my DB to now run on MySQL.

I must say it is a GREAT improvement!!

OK - My OpSys is PClinuxOS 2012-10. LO 4.1.1.2, MySQL 5.1.55

I have three tables in my DB - 'Members', 'Story', 'eMails'.
I have one Main Form "Members" (that references the 'Members" Table) 
AND contains a Sub Form "eMail" (that references the 'eMail' Table). 
Also on the Main Form is a Button that should pop-up, over the Main 
Form, a "Story" Form that references the Story table).


All the individual Tables and Forms work well on their own - BUT ...

The "eMail" Sub Form does not "link" to the individual Members record 
and cycle with each record so I can not add info to this Sub Form that 
will be linked with the correct record.

The Button does not work at all!!

I have worked on this so many times off and on that I'm now rather 
confused on how to go about it or what I did before.


My 'eMails' Table contains the fields - MessageID, Date, In/Out, 
Title, Message. ID (My Foreign Key)
My 'Story' Table contains the fields - StoryID, Story, ID (My Foreign 
Key)


If I remember correctly I created the "eMail" Sub Form at the time I 
laid out the new Data Base and under the Button properties I currently 
have "When pressed - Standard.Story.OpenForm (document, Basic)"


Can someone help me out of this mess???

Thanks for ANY help.

IanW
Pretoria RSA




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Win XP Windows Installer Error - what was he fix again?

[Pedro]

Hi again Virgil


Virgil Arrington wrote
>>Why don't you run it from your hard drive? You can unpack it anywhere and 
>>it won't affect the installed version in any way...
> 
> The last time I installed a new version, I went from 3.5.7 to 4.0.5. The 
> version 4 completely deleted my 3.5.7, which I did *not* want. I later
> found 
> out on this list that such was apparently normal behavior. I don't want to 
> risk the same thing happening again.

If you unpack LibreOffice Portable or X-LibreOffice to your hard drive (e.g.
to C:\X-LibreOffice412) it will remain contained in the unpack folder. It
does *not* overwrite *any* files and it will not use your Profile files. So, 
all is completely separate.

In fact if you miss some feature in version 3.5.7 you can get the
X-LibreOffice 3.5.7 release and run it *simultaneously* with version 4.0.5 

Pedro



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Win XP Windows Installer Error - what was he fix again?

[Virgil Arrington]

Pedro wrote:


"It is much slower" because it's running on a jump drive...


I know that.

Why don't you run it from your hard drive? You can unpack it anywhere and 
it

won't affect the installed version in any way...


The last time I installed a new version, I went from 3.5.7 to 4.0.5. The 
version 4 completely deleted my 3.5.7, which I did *not* want. I later found 
out on this list that such was apparently normal behavior. I don't want to 
risk the same thing happening again.



Even better: if you have a slow PC try X-LibreOffice. I guarantee you that
it is even faster than the installed version ;)


My PC is plenty fast enough for me. But, for my jump drive, I'll check out 
the X version. I had never heard of it before. Thanks for the tip.


Virgil 



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Win XP Windows Installer Error - what was he fix again?

[Pedro]

Hi Virgil


Virgil Arrington wrote
> Having said all that, I just downloaded 4.1.2 Portable to my jump drive. 
> It's a good way to test out a new version without committing it to my hard 
> drive, although it is much slower.

"It is much slower" because it's running on a jump drive...

Why don't you run it from your hard drive? You can unpack it anywhere and it
won't affect the installed version in any way...

Even better: if you have a slow PC try X-LibreOffice. I guarantee you that
it is even faster than the installed version ;)

Pedro



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Win XP Windows Installer Error - what was he fix again?

[Virgil Arrington]

I went with 4.0.5 several weeks ago on my Win7 machine and couldn't be 
happier. It added some features I wanted (better support for the Libertine G 
fonts) and fixed the regression bug dealing with remembering my style list 
hierarchical listing.


I imagine I'll be slower to upgrade from here as, for my needs at least, LO 
is nearing perfection. If only we could get a tabbed interface... Now, 
*that* would make me jump on an upgrade, even one with a low third digit.


Having said all that, I just downloaded 4.1.2 Portable to my jump drive. 
It's a good way to test out a new version without committing it to my hard 
drive, although it is much slower.


Virgil

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Davies

Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 11:25 AM
To: Kracked_P_P---webmaster ; users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Win XP Windows Installer Error - what 
was he fix again?


Hi :)
The 4.1.x branch is getting really near to the number we generally consider 
turns it into stable branch.


It's the time i typically get stuck procrastinating.  Do i wait 'just  a few 
more days' or go ahead with the 4.0.5?  So, it's only the machines i am most 
active on that ever get upgraded and all the rest fall wy behind.  I 
could possibly still find a few that are still back on 3.4.x.  One day i 
will do the whole lot in one go, but that day is not today.  Perhaps with 
the 4.1.3 ;)


Regards from
Tom :)





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 wrote:


On 10/15/2013 07:31 AM, Pedro wrote:

Hi krackedpress

There shouldn't be any installer error under XP SP3. Installer errors are
usually indicators of a corrupted installer. You should try to download it
again from another mirror
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.0.5/win/x86/LibreOffice_4.0.5_Win_x86.msi.mirrorlist

If you don't have a particular reason to stick with the 4.0.x branch, I
would suggest version 4.1.2
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.1.2/win/x86/LibreOffice_4.1.2_Win_x86.msi.mirrorlist

Hope this helps ;)




I downloaded it from the "default mirror" for my New York State, USA region.

I will download it again later.  Right now I am installing 4.0.4.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing extensions

[Ken Springer]

On 10/15/13 3:25 AM, Alex Thurgood wrote:

Le 14/10/2013 21:02, Ken Springer a écrit :

Hi Ken,

I say this because I thought I read in a help file somewhere all you had
to do was place the extension in that folder and restart LO.  Which
didn't work.  LOL  So, went to find said help file, now I can't.  That's
not good.  


I'm not convinced that this actually works, but am willing to be proved
wrong. The way extension installation and registration worked (still
works ?) was that active registration was required. In other words, the
Extension Manager (and unopkg) did the work of actively registering the
extension within the LO application framework. There was a change during
4.x development to switch some extensions to passive registration,
perhaps that was the sense of what you read somewhere (I can only think
of the developer's list or dev wiki for that, but I don't know my way
around everything within LO).


Before I found the remove button, which I mentioned earlier, I manually 
removed 3 extensions from the Extensions folder.  It didn't seem to make 
any difference.  After reading your post, I put them back, only to 
discover there is no removed button for them.  That doesn't set 
positively with me.  I went back and manually removed them again.


We'll see what happens later.


At present, current development (in the master repo) has focussed on
having the LO project built-in extensions use a particular prefix to
separate those extensions that are built "natively" and those that have
to be added by the user/admin. I don't really understand the what or the
why behind it as I'm not a developer, but have been trying to follow
that on the dev mailing list.



I don't follow today's norm for data/file storage on my computers.  Both
this Mac and all the Windows machines I own, I create that storage
somewhere else other than the OS partition.


I have tried that in the past, but on OSX, the LO application is an
application bundle, and if you don't install an extension into the main
app corresponding directory, then you have to be able to make sure that
the user installation directory is visible to the main app. As the user
profile config is stored in
/Application Support/LibreOffice


I was referring to the data I create, stuff downloaded, images, etc.  If 
an application wants to put things in a particular location, I let it. 
There are a lot of Windows users who do this, I'm not one of them.  That 
just seems to me to be asking for trouble.



or whatever name I choose to call it, provided it matches the name of my
LO app, I'm not sure if that still works if your user profile config
folder is stored somewhere else. Certainly, I see no scope for that
working with the main app bundle extensions directory, as I'm assuming,
perhaps wrongly, that this is hardcoded.



I missed that earlier.  They just *had* to make it small text, they
couldn't have made it a button  Developers and web site designers
have forgotten how to design for total newbies, which is how I look at
all software, web sites, and OS interfaces.  As if today, humans are not
born with the computer knowledge and skills many developers and web site
designers seem to take for granted all users have.


Oh I agree that LO is far from having an intuitve interface. The problem
is that we all beg to differ on what an intuitive UI should be like.
Current thinking in the LO UX (user experience) group, if I understand
correctly, is to adhere to the Elementary OS HMI guidelines :

http://elementaryos.org/docs/human-interface-guidelines/human-interface-guidelines

Whether that thinking will move things along in the direction you would
like, I really have no idea.


I look more for consistency with in an application, more than it should 
look like all the rest.  So the remove button should be in the same 
place as the install button.  Whether it's a round button, square 
button, pink with purple polka dots, I don't care.  Just keep similarly 
grouped functions in the same spot.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Font charts

[Ken Springer]

On 10/15/13 5:30 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

On 10/14/2013 09:58 PM, Ken Springer wrote:

On 10/14/13 6:01 PM, Ken Springer wrote:

On 10/14/13 3:37 PM, Mark Bourne wrote:

Ken Springer wrote:

On 10/14/13 12:46 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

On 10/14/2013 12:44 PM, Gabriel Risterucci wrote:

2013/10/14 Ken Springer 





Not sure if it's the same one, but I've found this handy for finding
Unicode characters:
  http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/

It doesn't show the whole range in one table, as that would be quite
some table, but you can view a whole block at once. Not all fonts
contain all Unicode characters, so you may find that some of the more
esoteric characters don't display properly or at all.



That's not the page I was writing about, but I've bookmarked it.
Thanks.


I found the page I was looking for, http://unicode.org/charts/.  That
page made me realize I've got to learn more about today's font files.
If you check one of there fonts, say this one,
http://unicode.org/charts/PDF/U.pdf, that's the type of simple
chart I'm looking for, except for one missing item.  For character
0002 which is the space, I'd like the word "space" to be associated
with the character in the chart.  That tells me what the character is
called in plain English, i.e. "space", "em square", "decimal sign",
etc.  Then it should be easier to check the font I wish to use to see
if it contains the extended characters/ligatures/etc. I need/want to use.

I used to really be into typography, but it was in the ASCII days,
around the Windows for Workgroups time.




Good
There are some really good fonts out there, especially novelty and
specialty fonts.

I have a "large" collection of these fonts, plus a full set of Adobe
fonts [TrueType and OpenType]

When I do a "properties" on my non-Adobe font folders I get:
199,966 items in 13.4 GB

My Adobe font folder of the collection from pre-2009
5129 items in 336.8 MB - with only 519 as TrueType fonts


I don't have that many fonts, not even close.  But the ones I do have 
are not the modern Unicode fonts.



There are a lot of calligraphy fonts that has special "glyphs" that
contain special combinations of letters and/or swirls that calligraphy
style of writing is "famous" for.


My current plans won't require any specialty fonts, except possibly for 
title pages and the like.  My uses will involve mostly items to be read. 
 I want them to easily read by the average/normal (if there is such a 
thing) user/reader.



To be honest, there are fonts for your every need, and a great many of
them are for free.


I don't think, at this time, I'll be doing anything that would warrant 
purchasing of a font.



I currently have over 600 fonts installed [that contain over 900
different fonts and their included styles] on my Ubuntu desktop
computer.  My laptops contain a little less installed fonts.

You will be amazed what you can do with these modern fonts in Writer or
a graphics package.  I produce a lot of signs, posters, and invitations,
with Writer and packages like Inkscape and Corel Draw.  The types of
calligraphy fonts [and the alternative/extra glyph fonts] make really
beautiful items/documents for people.

Of course, if you are going to deal with glyphs from different languages
[using non-Latin letters], there are a great number of fonts dedicated
for those languages, so you do not need to use their language glyphs in
a Unicode font, like Arial.  Arial Unicode seems to have the most
letters and glyphs, of any of the Unicode fonts I know about.


I doubt I'll be using anything but "Murican" English.   LOL


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Win XP Windows Installer Error - what was he fix again?

[Tom Davies]

Hi :) 
The 4.1.x branch is getting really near to the number we generally consider 
turns it into stable branch.  

It's the time i typically get stuck procrastinating.  Do i wait 'just  a few 
more days' or go ahead with the 4.0.5?  So, it's only the machines i am most 
active on that ever get upgraded and all the rest fall wy behind.  I could 
possibly still find a few that are still back on 3.4.x.  One day i will do the 
whole lot in one go, but that day is not today.  Perhaps with the 4.1.3 ;)  

Regards from 
Tom :)  





On Tuesday, 15 October 2013, 13:06, Kracked_P_P---webmaster 
 wrote:
 
On 10/15/2013 07:31 AM, Pedro wrote:
> Hi krackedpress
>
> There shouldn't be any installer error under XP SP3. Installer errors are
> usually indicators of a corrupted installer. You should try to download it
> again from another mirror
> http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.0.5/win/x86/LibreOffice_4.0.5_Win_x86.msi.mirrorlist
>
> If you don't have a particular reason to stick with the 4.0.x branch, I
> would suggest version 4.1.2
> http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.1.2/win/x86/LibreOffice_4.1.2_Win_x86.msi.mirrorlist
>
> Hope this helps ;)
>
>

I downloaded it from the "default mirror" for my New York State, USA region.

I will download it again later.  Right now I am installing 4.0.4.


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[libreoffice-users] LO 4.1.2 Hebrew parentheses bug

[Gabriel Kaufman]

I just updated to LO 4.1.2 (English US) on Intel Mac OS X 10.7.5 and the 
parentheses mapping for Hebrew text seems to be broken. When I switch the input 
language to Hebrew, the parentheses are reversed when I use the Times New Roman 
font... However, some Hebrew fonts appear to be working properly.

Could this be a continuation of this problem:
http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/18912/bidirectional-text-and-closing-bracket-bug/

The most logical way to map the parenthesis is that the button 9 should give a 
left parenthesis and the button 0 should give a right parenthesis, regardless 
of OS input language, document language, or text direction. This is the way 
Hebrew behaves in other Mac applications such as TextEdit and Mail...


Please advise whether this bug is able to be fixed, and if there is anything I 
can do on my install to fix it.


Thank you in advance for your time and attention.

Best regards,

Gabriel Kaufman



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Retrieve a specific message from the ML

[e-letter]

On 15/10/2013, Ady  wrote:
>>
>> Assuming your are referring to digest mode, all is correct. Sometimes
>> the delay to receive the retrieved message is quite long (> 10 minutes
>> at a guess).
>>
>
> No, I'm not referring to digest mode.
>
> I am referring to "nomail" mode, and then retrieving specific
> messages by using .
>

Surely, by definition nomail mode means that you do not receive any messages?

> The problem: there is no way to know the desired correct "N" for
> someone subscribed by 
> so to be able to retrieve it.
>
> There are several ways to  _read_ messages. There is no effective way
> to _retrieve_ a specific message (since the correct "N" is unknown to
> a "nomail" subscribed user).
>
> To the Admin(s) of the ML,
>  any answer to this question?
>

In my opinion use digest mode. For example, replying to the digest
mode message will create a reply as so:

On 15/10/2013, users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
 wrote:
> Topics (messages 34322 through 34351):
> - [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing extensions
> -   34322 - Alex Thurgood 

Therefore, sending the reply message to:
'users+get-34...@global.libreoffice.org' will retrieve the message
shown above.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Win XP Windows Installer Error - what was he fix again?

[Kracked_P_P---webmaster]

I cannot go with 4.1.2 line due to the font drop-down list error.  So
until that line fixes the issue [told it was already in the bug list], I
cannot use it for Ubuntu.

Late this month 4.0.6 come out.  I will run that till I find that 4.1.x
works on my test Ubuntu system.  Hopefully 4.1.4 will have the issue
fixed [December '13]  4.1.3 come out about the time 4.0.6 does.

As for the original post,
well I have 4.0.4 running at this point.  I downloaded the Windows
Installer 4.5 and still 4.0.5 was causing the error.  But, 4.0.4 would
install.  I will wait for 4.0.6 and then try that one on the Win XP
Professional with SP3 [32-bit].  Actually it is a dual booting system at
this point.  Originally it was an Ubuntu system, but when I replaced the
bad drive, I decided that I should install XP, since that was what it
came with, before the previous owner installed 64-bit XP [really bad
idea].  I will use this system for a backup Ubuntu desktop and a
Windows-only hardware system [I have some internal and USB hardware that
are Windows-only].  Later in its life it will have Win7 64-bit and
Ubuntu 64-bit installed, since it is a 64-bit dual core Pentium-D system.



On 10/15/2013 11:25 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> The 4.1.x branch is getting really near to the number we generally
> consider turns it into stable branch. 
>
> It's the time i typically get stuck procrastinating.  Do i wait 'just
> a few more days' or go ahead with the 4.0.5?  So, it's only the
> machines i am most active on that ever get upgraded and all the rest
> fall wy behind.  I could possibly still find a few that are still
> back on 3.4.x.  One day i will do the whole lot in one go, but that
> day is not today.  Perhaps with the 4.1.3 ;) 
>
> Regards from
> Tom :) 
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, 15 October 2013, 13:06, Kracked_P_P---webmaster
>  wrote:
> On 10/15/2013 07:31 AM, Pedro wrote:
> > Hi krackedpress
> >
> > There shouldn't be any installer error under XP SP3. Installer
> errors are
> > usually indicators of a corrupted installer. You should try to
> download it
> > again from another mirror
> >
> http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.0.5/win/x86/LibreOffice_4.0.5_Win_x86.msi.mirrorlist
> >
> > If you don't have a particular reason to stick with the 4.0.x branch, I
> > would suggest version 4.1.2
> >
> http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.1.2/win/x86/LibreOffice_4.1.2_Win_x86.msi.mirrorlist
> >
> > Hope this helps ;)
> >
> >
>
> I downloaded it from the "default mirror" for my New York State, USA
> region.
>
> I will download it again later.  Right now I am installing 4.0.4.
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] stopping superscript text in Calc

[Paul D. Mirowsky]

I would suppose that the logic is that if it recognizes special font 
control scenarios, a part of the command would automatically revert the 
control after completion of special font.



On 10/11/2013 2:21 PM, John R. Sowden wrote:
Been having the problem for a long time.  Using Calc, I write a date, 
Oct 23rd, (I add the rd which shows as a superscript. Problem is 
whenever I add new text to the cell, it is in the superscript size, 
not regular text.


John






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[libreoffice-users] LO Base Sub Forms

[Ian Whitfield]

Hi All

I'm still stuck with LO Base Sub Forms!! I've been at this for some 
time, off and on, but over the past few months I have been very busy 
converting, editing and checking/updating my DB to now run on MySQL.

I must say it is a GREAT improvement!!

OK - My OpSys is PClinuxOS 2012-10. LO 4.1.1.2, MySQL 5.1.55

I have three tables in my DB - 'Members', 'Story', 'eMails'.
I have one Main Form "Members" (that references the 'Members" Table) AND 
contains a Sub Form "eMail" (that references the 'eMail' Table). Also on 
the Main Form is a Button that should pop-up, over the Main Form, a 
"Story" Form that references the Story table).


All the individual Tables and Forms work well on their own - BUT ...

The "eMail" Sub Form does not "link" to the individual Members record 
and cycle with each record so I can not add info to this Sub Form that 
will be linked with the correct record.

The Button does not work at all!!

I have worked on this so many times off and on that I'm now rather 
confused on how to go about it or what I did before.


My 'eMails' Table contains the fields - MessageID, Date, In/Out, Title, 
Message. ID (My Foreign Key)

My 'Story' Table contains the fields - StoryID, Story, ID (My Foreign Key)

If I remember correctly I created the "eMail" Sub Form at the time I 
laid out the new Data Base and under the Button properties I currently 
have "When pressed - Standard.Story.OpenForm (document, Basic)"


Can someone help me out of this mess???

Thanks for ANY help.

IanW
Pretoria RSA


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Win XP Windows Installer Error - what was he fix again?

[Kracked_P_P---webmaster]

On 10/15/2013 07:31 AM, Pedro wrote:
> Hi krackedpress
>
> There shouldn't be any installer error under XP SP3. Installer errors are
> usually indicators of a corrupted installer. You should try to download it
> again from another mirror
> http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.0.5/win/x86/LibreOffice_4.0.5_Win_x86.msi.mirrorlist
>
> If you don't have a particular reason to stick with the 4.0.x branch, I
> would suggest version 4.1.2
> http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.1.2/win/x86/LibreOffice_4.1.2_Win_x86.msi.mirrorlist
>
> Hope this helps ;)
>
>

I downloaded it from the "default mirror" for my New York State, USA region.

I will download it again later.  Right now I am installing 4.0.4.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Win XP Windows Installer Error - what was he fix again?

[Kracked_P_P---webmaster]

On 10/15/2013 07:15 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2013-10-14 8:07 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster
>  wrote:
>> But it seems that I may need to see if there is a newer Windows
>> Installer package or some other fix.
>>
>> BUT, MS's web site really does not let you find what you really need for
>> XP systems easily.
>
> http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=latest+windows+installer+for+xp
>

Sorry, but that linked "file" did not work, for Windows 4.0.5 on the XP Pro.
Now I downloaded 4.0.4 and it did nlt have that installer error.

So could there be something in the 4.0.5 file that is "messed up" for XP
installation?  While 4.0.4 does not have that issue.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Win XP Windows Installer Error - what was he fix again?

[Pedro]

Hi krackedpress

There shouldn't be any installer error under XP SP3. Installer errors are
usually indicators of a corrupted installer. You should try to download it
again from another mirror
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.0.5/win/x86/LibreOffice_4.0.5_Win_x86.msi.mirrorlist

If you don't have a particular reason to stick with the 4.0.x branch, I
would suggest version 4.1.2
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.1.2/win/x86/LibreOffice_4.1.2_Win_x86.msi.mirrorlist

Hope this helps ;)



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Font charts

[Kracked_P_P---webmaster]

On 10/14/2013 09:58 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
> On 10/14/13 6:01 PM, Ken Springer wrote:
>> On 10/14/13 3:37 PM, Mark Bourne wrote:
>>> Ken Springer wrote:
 On 10/14/13 12:46 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
> On 10/14/2013 12:44 PM, Gabriel Risterucci wrote:
>> 2013/10/14 Ken Springer 
>
> 
>
>>> Not sure if it's the same one, but I've found this handy for finding
>>> Unicode characters:
>>>  http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/
>>>
>>> It doesn't show the whole range in one table, as that would be quite
>>> some table, but you can view a whole block at once. Not all fonts
>>> contain all Unicode characters, so you may find that some of the more
>>> esoteric characters don't display properly or at all.
>>
>>
>> That's not the page I was writing about, but I've bookmarked it. 
>> Thanks.
>
> I found the page I was looking for, http://unicode.org/charts/.  That
> page made me realize I've got to learn more about today's font files.
> If you check one of there fonts, say this one,
> http://unicode.org/charts/PDF/U.pdf, that's the type of simple
> chart I'm looking for, except for one missing item.  For character
> 0002 which is the space, I'd like the word "space" to be associated
> with the character in the chart.  That tells me what the character is
> called in plain English, i.e. "space", "em square", "decimal sign",
> etc.  Then it should be easier to check the font I wish to use to see
> if it contains the extended characters/ligatures/etc. I need/want to use.
>
> I used to really be into typography, but it was in the ASCII days,
> around the Windows for Workgroups time.
>
>

Good
There are some really good fonts out there, especially novelty and
specialty fonts.

I have a "large" collection of these fonts, plus a full set of Adobe
fonts [TrueType and OpenType]

When I do a "properties" on my non-Adobe font folders I get:
199,966 items in 13.4 GB

My Adobe font folder of the collection from pre-2009
5129 items in 336.8 MB - with only 519 as TrueType fonts

There are a lot of calligraphy fonts that has special "glyphs" that
contain special combinations of letters and/or swirls that calligraphy
style of writing is "famous" for. 

To be honest, there are fonts for your every need, and a great many of
them are for free.

I currently have over 600 fonts installed [that contain over 900
different fonts and their included styles] on my Ubuntu desktop
computer.  My laptops contain a little less installed fonts.

You will be amazed what you can do with these modern fonts in Writer or
a graphics package.  I produce a lot of signs, posters, and invitations,
with Writer and packages like Inkscape and Corel Draw.  The types of
calligraphy fonts [and the alternative/extra glyph fonts] make really
beautiful items/documents for people. 

Of course, if you are going to deal with glyphs from different languages
[using non-Latin letters], there are a great number of fonts dedicated
for those languages, so you do not need to use their language glyphs in
a Unicode font, like Arial.  Arial Unicode seems to have the most
letters and glyphs, of any of the Unicode fonts I know about.

Happy Exploring. . .



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Win XP Windows Installer Error - what was he fix again?

[Tanstaafl]

On 2013-10-14 8:07 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster 
 wrote:

But it seems that I may need to see if there is a newer Windows
Installer package or some other fix.

BUT, MS's web site really does not let you find what you really need for
XP systems easily.


http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=latest+windows+installer+for+xp

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[libreoffice-users] Re: MySQL Native C Connector Extension for Linux 32, 64 and OSX 64 bit versions of LibreOffice - built against future LO 4.2

[Alex Thurgood]

Le 14/10/2013 18:24, Fernand Vanrie a écrit :

Hi Fernand,



is this due to the Extension or is it a problem after changing the
datetime stuff in the API ?


Probably the API change. The extension to which Heinrich is referring is 
a PPA built one (or does Ubuntu now ship 4.1.2.3 ?), I guess, as the 
official TDF builds do not contain  the mysql connector extension, so it 
seems likely that the PPA provided extension connector was built on 
source code that existed before the API was changed. Unless Heinrich is 
referring to some connector from some other source ?




Jésus Corius build a new Windows version for 4.1 , works not for XP ,
works fine for Win7 and Win8 but crasches on some (big 90.000 records))
tables with Timestamps and Datetime rfileds?


The change in the basic LO datetime handling data length code to take 
account of nanoseconds (for which mysql doesn't provide for suppport 
AFAIK) might be the cause here too. I've no idea how LO handles that 
lack of support here for the conversion, whether it just silently drops 
the excess part, or whether it tries to convert it into something 
meaningful and then gets confused and falls over. You'd have to ask over 
on the dev mailing list.



Alex



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing extensions

[Alex Thurgood]

Le 14/10/2013 21:02, Ken Springer a écrit :

Hi Ken,

I say this because I thought I read in a help file somewhere all you had
to do was place the extension in that folder and restart LO.  Which
didn't work.  LOL  So, went to find said help file, now I can't.  That's
not good.  


I'm not convinced that this actually works, but am willing to be proved 
wrong. The way extension installation and registration worked (still 
works ?) was that active registration was required. In other words, the 
Extension Manager (and unopkg) did the work of actively registering the 
extension within the LO application framework. There was a change during 
4.x development to switch some extensions to passive registration, 
perhaps that was the sense of what you read somewhere (I can only think 
of the developer's list or dev wiki for that, but I don't know my way 
around everything within LO).


At present, current development (in the master repo) has focussed on 
having the LO project built-in extensions use a particular prefix to 
separate those extensions that are built "natively" and those that have 
to be added by the user/admin. I don't really understand the what or the 
why behind it as I'm not a developer, but have been trying to follow 
that on the dev mailing list.




I don't follow today's norm for data/file storage on my computers.  Both
this Mac and all the Windows machines I own, I create that storage
somewhere else other than the OS partition.


I have tried that in the past, but on OSX, the LO application is an 
application bundle, and if you don't install an extension into the main 
app corresponding directory, then you have to be able to make sure that 
the user installation directory is visible to the main app. As the user 
profile config is stored in

/Application Support/LibreOffice

or whatever name I choose to call it, provided it matches the name of my 
LO app, I'm not sure if that still works if your user profile config 
folder is stored somewhere else. Certainly, I see no scope for that 
working with the main app bundle extensions directory, as I'm assuming, 
perhaps wrongly, that this is hardcoded.




I missed that earlier.  They just *had* to make it small text, they
couldn't have made it a button  Developers and web site designers
have forgotten how to design for total newbies, which is how I look at
all software, web sites, and OS interfaces.  As if today, humans are not
born with the computer knowledge and skills many developers and web site
designers seem to take for granted all users have.


Oh I agree that LO is far from having an intuitve interface. The problem 
is that we all beg to differ on what an intuitive UI should be like. 
Current thinking in the LO UX (user experience) group, if I understand 
correctly, is to adhere to the Elementary OS HMI guidelines :


http://elementaryos.org/docs/human-interface-guidelines/human-interface-guidelines

Whether that thinking will move things along in the direction you would 
like, I really have no idea.



Alex



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