Re: [libreoffice-users] Remove Properties and Personal Information
2014-04-28 4:40 GMT+02:00 Joe B paperba...@gmail.com: I realize this is much more a Windows 7 problem than a LibreOffice problem, but so was my last question :) It's not a more W7 than LO problem, it's a W7 only problem... It would seem to me that if I have Full Control permission, then the Special Permission check box should be check-able (not grayed out), but it's not check-able, and it is grayed out. What am I missing? The NTFS rights management. You can have full control over a file, but can't do everything. You can be the administrator user, and not have full control. You can be the owner of a file, and still be unable to modify it. You can give *all* rights to the Everyone virtual user, and still not be able to access the file without an user account on the system. The worst thing is, I'm not joking here, these things are real. The only option as far as I know is to effectively give yourself extra rights either through all the dialogs madness or with the icacls command line tool. Both methods are overly tedious in my opinion, but that's just the way it is. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] List-reply issues... again
On 04/28/2014 03:35 AM, Brian Barker wrote: At 16:05 27/04/2014 -0700, James E. Lang wrote: Mailing lists are a way to share comments with a group of people who share an interest in a particular topic. As such private replies _should_ be the exception rather than the rule. It's true that some lists - perhaps most - are for discussion, but not all. The web site advertises this list thus: The user support mailing list address is our main channel for LibreOffice users needing help with a problem. Users with problems do not necessarily want to engage in a discussion: they just want help. Nor do list members want to discuss, perhaps for the umpteenth time, such questions as why LibreOffice is not a clone of Microsoft Office. I haven't yet a strong opinion about this :-) :-) :-) :-) , but libreoffice-mailing-list could add an advise that say for example this list is considered public and the reply-to field isn't taken into account... Starting with this post, any message that I send to this mailing list via any of the three mail clients that I use will carry this header: Reply-To: LibreOffice Users List users@global.libreoffice.org This will tell the mail clients from which replies are sent that this is the preferred address to which a reply should be sent. This is my way of getting around what I consider to be a wrong headed configuration of this mailing list. Interestingly, the fact that you can do this defeats your point! The Reply-To: header, in the words of RFC 2822, indicates the mailbox(es) to which the *author* of the message suggests that replies be sent (my emphasis). The author of a message, of course, is you - not the list. The header is provided to give *you* this control - and by not interfering, this list preserves this facility for you as it should. ...could be an option, but, if I use the email address also for other mailing lists what happen if I set the reply-to field with all the mailing lists addresses??? I ... will NOT participate in a flame war. No incendiaries here! only firemans that puts out flames with beer...:-) :-) :-) Brian Barker thanx :-) ciao :-) pier... P.S. I was sending this email privately instead of publicly again...:-) :-) :-) but stopped just in time...:-) :-) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] List-reply issues... again
Actually the Reply-To: header is passed along by the list server and thus it is honored. The question is, What happens to posts that lack a Reply-To: header? I am also unsure whether multiple Reply-To: headers are supported by the eMail RFC. To implement my new procedure I added a Reply-To: address to the unique identity that I use for posts to this list. I believe that most mail clients support multiple identities each of which can default to a different combination of addressing headers (e.g. To:, CC:, BCC:, From:, and Reply-To: ). They also generally support a unique signature block for each identity (e.g. my amateur radio call sign or an account number at a business does not belong in signatures on this list but may be essential in some other eMail I send). It would be nice if all mailing lists adhered to a common standard in this but nice has nothing to with the world as it exists. It would eliminate a lot of misaddressed replies. The fact that there are so many posts to this list that begin with some variant of, oops I sent my reply to the wrong place, attests to the fact that this list is out of step with many other lists. Those who established the current policy had a reason so that's the way it is. I'm grudgingly accepting it. To the extent that solutions to problems are given, I would like to always see them shared on the list. Rants about how LO differs from MSO are indeed a problem. Maybe a list and wiki that are dedicated to the philosophy behind the differences between the open (LO, AOO, OOo, etc) and proprietary (MSO, KSO, etc.) office suites would take some of the pressure off of this list. (?) -- Jim -Original Message- From: yahoo-pier_andreit pier_andr...@yahoo.it To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 2:38 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] List-reply issues... again On 04/28/2014 03:35 AM, Brian Barker wrote: At 16:05 27/04/2014 -0700, James E. Lang wrote: Mailing lists are a way to share comments with a group of people who share an interest in a particular topic. As such private replies _should_ be the exception rather than the rule. It's true that some lists - perhaps most - are for discussion, but not all. The web site advertises this list thus: The user support mailing list address is our main channel for LibreOffice users needing help with a problem. Users with problems do not necessarily want to engage in a discussion: they just want help. Nor do list members want to discuss, perhaps for the umpteenth time, such questions as why LibreOffice is not a clone of Microsoft Office. I haven't yet a strong opinion about this :-) :-) :-) :-) , but libreoffice-mailing-list could add an advise that say for example this list is considered public and the reply-to field isn't taken into account... Starting with this post, any message that I send to this mailing list via any of the three mail clients that I use will carry this header: Reply-To: LibreOffice Users List users@global.libreoffice.org This will tell the mail clients from which replies are sent that this is the preferred address to which a reply should be sent. This is my way of getting around what I consider to be a wrong headed configuration of this mailing list. Interestingly, the fact that you can do this defeats your point! The Reply-To: header, in the words of RFC 2822, indicates the mailbox(es) to which the *author* of the message suggests that replies be sent (my emphasis). The author of a message, of course, is you - not the list. The header is provided to give *you* this control - and by not interfering, this list preserves this facility for you as it should. ...could be an option, but, if I use the email address also for other mailing lists what happen if I set the reply-to field with all the mailing lists addresses??? I ... will NOT participate in a flame war. No incendiaries here! only firemans that puts out flames with beer...:-) :-) :-) Brian Barker thanx :-) ciao :-) pier... P.S. I was sending this email privately instead of publicly again...:-) :-) :-) but stopped just in time...:-) :-) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Remove Properties and Personal Information
Thank you for your reply Cley. The icacls command is new to me, but I have a general idea what it does now. Let's say the file I'm trying to to change is C:\Users\Joe\Desktop\foo.txt The command line I have tried so far is C:\Users\Joeicacls C:\Users\Joe\Desktop\foo.txt /grant Joe-PC\Joe:F Of course, the F permission is Full Access which I already have. I am just showing what I have already tried. How might I modify this statement to include special permissions? Thank you Joe On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 3:48 AM, Cley Faye cleyf...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-04-28 4:40 GMT+02:00 Joe B paperba...@gmail.com: I realize this is much more a Windows 7 problem than a LibreOffice problem, but so was my last question :) It's not a more W7 than LO problem, it's a W7 only problem... It would seem to me that if I have Full Control permission, then the Special Permission check box should be check-able (not grayed out), but it's not check-able, and it is grayed out. What am I missing? The NTFS rights management. You can have full control over a file, but can't do everything. You can be the administrator user, and not have full control. You can be the owner of a file, and still be unable to modify it. You can give *all* rights to the Everyone virtual user, and still not be able to access the file without an user account on the system. The worst thing is, I'm not joking here, these things are real. The only option as far as I know is to effectively give yourself extra rights either through all the dialogs madness or with the icacls command line tool. Both methods are overly tedious in my opinion, but that's just the way it is. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Upgrade Problem on Windows
Thank you Regina. Due to a quirk in DroidMail I am enclosing my responses in brackets [like this] to distinguish them from the text to which I'm responding. -Original Message- From: Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 12:21 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Upgrade Problem on Windows Hi James, James E Lang schrieb: 4.0.4.2 - 4.1.5.3 After performing a cleanup on the volume there is only 207MB available on C: on a Windows XP system on which I'm working. After I specified that LO be installed on volume D: the installer still requires 427MB on C:. I hesitate to compress volume C:. Volume, Size, Available, Needed C:, 15GB, 207MB, 427MB D:, 107GB, 61GB, 352MB F:, 16GB, 6694MB, 0KB Is there any way to avoid using C:? (Growl! Windows. Bah, humbug!) Do you have used already methods to get more free place on drive C? [The cleanup to which I referred performed at least the first two of these.] Empty trash. Empty all temp or tmp folders. [I will have to look up how to do the next one for FireFox.] Empty the cache of your browser and/or move the location for the cache of you browser to drive D. [All of this misses my point which is that the installer requires space on one specific volume (I.e. on C:) and that this disk usage apparently cannot be redirected to another volume (e.g. D:). It looks like I might be able to migrate one application (Pegasus Mail) from volume C: to volume D:. That's simply a work-around — not a fix for the basic problem.] [ -8== ] Kind regards Regina -- Jim -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Upgrade Problem on Windows
Hi, What I can imagine is the following: Some C++ redistributables. Please try a parallel installation (start the installer with the option /a). This is not a installation, bit an extraction. If you have questions, please ask :) Sorry for reply-all. /me on mobile -- Liebe Grüße, / Yours, Florian Reisinger On 28. April 2014 17:09:54 MESZ, James E Lang jim+...@lang.hm wrote: Thank you Regina. Due to a quirk in DroidMail I am enclosing my responses in brackets [like this] to distinguish them from the text to which I'm responding. -Original Message- From: Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 12:21 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Upgrade Problem on Windows Hi James, James E Lang schrieb: 4.0.4.2 - 4.1.5.3 After performing a cleanup on the volume there is only 207MB available on C: on a Windows XP system on which I'm working. After I specified that LO be installed on volume D: the installer still requires 427MB on C:. I hesitate to compress volume C:. Volume, Size, Available, Needed C:, 15GB, 207MB, 427MB D:, 107GB, 61GB, 352MB F:, 16GB, 6694MB, 0KB Is there any way to avoid using C:? (Growl! Windows. Bah, humbug!) Do you have used already methods to get more free place on drive C? [The cleanup to which I referred performed at least the first two of these.] Empty trash. Empty all temp or tmp folders. [I will have to look up how to do the next one for FireFox.] Empty the cache of your browser and/or move the location for the cache of you browser to drive D. [All of this misses my point which is that the installer requires space on one specific volume (I.e. on C:) and that this disk usage apparently cannot be redirected to another volume (e.g. D:). It looks like I might be able to migrate one application (Pegasus Mail) from volume C: to volume D:. That's simply a work-around — not a fix for the basic problem.] [ -8== ] Kind regards Regina -- Jim -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Upgrade Problem on Windows
Hi James, James E Lang schrieb: [All of this misses my point which is that the installer requires space on one specific volume (I.e. on C:) and that this disk usage apparently cannot be redirected to another volume (e.g. D:). It looks like I might be able to migrate one application (Pegasus Mail) from volume C: to volume D:. That's simply a work-around — not a fix for the basic problem.] I have shown some ways to get LibreOffice to drive D. Which parts of them have you done? (1) Put the downloaded file on drive D. (2) Put the unpacked download files on drive D. (3) Install LibreOffice to drive D. If you have done all that and still cannot install, have you tried an administrative installation to drive D too? Kind regards Regina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Remove Properties and Personal Information
2014-04-28 16:19 GMT+02:00 Joe B paperba...@gmail.com: Of course, the F permission is Full Access which I already have. I am just showing what I have already tried. How might I modify this statement to include special permissions? Sorry, I can't help you further with the windows command line tools, as I don't use them very often. What you can try is to set the appropriate permissions on a file through the GUI, and then run icacls on it without arguments. This should show you the current file permissions per user, and can give you the info you need. As far as I remember, icacls is good to manage the generic access properties, but can also show information about extended metadata, which might be what you need there. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Upgrade Problem on Windows
On 4/27/2014 2:39 PM, James E Lang jim+...@lang.hm wrote: Volume, Size, Available, Needed C:, 15GB, 207MB, 427MB 207MB free on your system partition? That is the problem you need to solve. I guarantee you are having serious performance issues right now and don't even know it, and crashes due to insufficient disk space on your system drive are only a short time away. Fix the problem. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] writer-how to have in a table column width as I like and how to add a column without stretching the other
On 4/27/2014 3:48 PM, yahoo-pier_andreit pier_andr...@yahoo.it wrote: On 04/27/2014 05:03 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 4/27/2014 8:45 AM, yahoo-pier_andreit pier_andr...@yahoo.it wrote: I don't know why but when I do reply in thunderbird it answer only to you and not to the list like in the past, so I send to the list again..:-) :-) In Thunderbird, always use Reply-To-List, not just 'Reply'... other lists doesn't have this behaviour, I press ctrl+R and thunderbird correctly reply to the list... why this list behave differently??? Because other lists 'munge' the reply to force it to the list. Google it if you want more details. It is a religious argument to many (to munge or not to munge), so lets please not start that flamewar up again. Or, if you use the buttons in the Message Header, modify it to use the 'Smart Reply' button, so it will automatically detect lists and change to 'Reply-To-List' automatically. I only have reply and reply to list buttons If you want to use a button, you have to manually add the 'Reply to List' button to your toolbar. but usyually I prefere to use keyboard, but, now the assignement is changed and to reply to list I should press ctrl+shift+L but I forget to do it... As I said - PEBKAC problem. This is a PEBKAC problem, nothing more... ...it isn't a PEBKAC problem, becouse before there wasn't this problem, ctrl+R reply to list, always, so, the problem is that I should adapt to the machine, instead should be better that the machine should adapt to me...:-) :-) :-) :-) You are wrong, this list has been this way for a long time, or we wouldn't have had this discussion dozens of times over the last few years. Again... PEBKAC problem. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Printer error in 4.2.3
Thanks, gents. My only excuse is that it has been so long since I found an LO bug I forgot to look. I have commented on the bug. MR On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote: Hi *, Tom Davies wrote (26-04-14 20:31) Given how e3xperienced you are and how long you have been on the mailing list i would say just post a bug-report (or wait until the competition starts and post it then) [...] Tom, can you, when writing your kind advice for the people here to report a bug, pls also suggest that they look for possible existing bugs for the problem :) In this specific case for example I've seen this one yesterday https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77894 Thanks regards, Cor On 26 April 2014 19:04, MR ZenWiz mrzen...@gmail.com wrote: [...[ Could not start printer. Please check your configuration. The file prints anyway, but the error window is really annoying. -- Cor Nouws GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 - vrijwilliger http://nl.libreoffice.org - volunteer http://www.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Playing Video in a Dialog
On 17/04/14 11:23, Fernand Vanrie wrote: On The French user site i found usefull code to play video on Windows using the API and Basic. The code opens a MediaWindow and play any video The player has a undocumented method CreatePlayerWindow who needs arguments (a empty array do crash LO) Do someone knows how to use this method and how Video can been played in a Dialog ? hi Fernand, let's see... avmedia/source/win/window.cxx: bool Window::create( const uno::Sequence uno::Any rArguments ) { IVideoWindow* pVideoWindow = const_cast IVideoWindow* ( mrPlayer.getVideoWindow() ); WNDCLASS* mpWndClass = lcl_getWndClass(); if( !mnFrameWnd pVideoWindow mpWndClass ) { awt::Rectangle aRect; sal_IntPtr nWnd; rArguments[ 0 ] = nWnd; rArguments[ 1 ] = aRect; mnParentWnd = static_castint(nWnd); so on Windows, parameters are a HWND of the parent and a rectangle... probably the parameters are undocumented for a reason, very system-dependent and subject to change without notice. also i have no idea how you can get a window's HWND from BASIC code. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Upgrade Problem on Windows
Hi :) Good point! Windows partition's over 20% full suffer a small performance hit. The curve steepens at around 50% and over 80% full performance drops away steeply. It's that final 20% that make a machine really kinda painful. Is it possible to resize the partitions? Regards from Tom :) On 28 April 2014 17:49, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 4/27/2014 2:39 PM, James E Lang jim+...@lang.hm wrote: Volume, Size, Available, Needed C:, 15GB, 207MB, 427MB 207MB free on your system partition? That is the problem you need to solve. I guarantee you are having serious performance issues right now and don't even know it, and crashes due to insufficient disk space on your system drive are only a short time away. Fix the problem. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Upgrade Problem on Windows
Hi Florian. -Original Message- From: Florian Reisinger flo...@libreoffice.org To: LO Users users@global.libreoffice.org, James E Lang jim+...@lang.hm, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de Sent: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 8:23 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Upgrade Problem on Windows Hi, What I can imagine is the following: Some C++ redistributables. Please try a parallel installation (start the installer with the option /a). [ I was double clicking D:\Downloads\LibreOffice_4.1.5_Win_x86.msi How do I add option /a? ] This is not a installation, bit an extraction. If you have questions, please ask :) [ Installation | extraction ? Are you saying that what I'm doing should be called an extraction or that option /a makes it an extraction? I think somebody stated that if extracted rather than installed, the new version would NOT be invoked by double clicking a document (e.g. pizzalog.ods). I selected a Typical setup. My first indication of trouble is a window titled LibreOffice 4.1.5.3 - Installation Wizard that says Out of Disk Space …. The highlighted volume is C:. The display now says that volume has 188MB available but needs 779MB. I clicked OK (the only option) and got a Custom Setup window with the same title. Under Optional Components - Dictionaries I deselected French and Spanish leaving only English. Under Additional user interface languages I deselected English (South Africa) and English (United Kingdom) leaving only English (United States). The required space on C: was reduced to 762MB which was still far too much. I should add that 1168KB was required on D: to this point. My next step was to Change the Install to Folder name from C:\Program Files\LibreOffice 4\ to D:\Program Files\LibreOffice 4\ which changed the requirements on C: and D: to 427MB and 335MB respectively. I see no way to reduce the space required on volume C: any further. Ideally I want to eliminate it altogether but I recognize that this is an imperfect world and that Windows does not improve on that observation. ] Sorry for reply-all. /me on mobile [ Yes. I took a peek at the headers and saw that you're using K-9 Mail. I'm using MailDroid. Both are eMail apps on Android devices. :-) For the identity I use to post to this list I have set header Reply-To: LO Users users@global.libreoffice.org which means that by default Reply will send to the list and Reply-all will send to both the list, me, and anyone else to whom I may have addressed my eMail. ] -- Liebe Grüße, / Yours, Florian Reisinger On 28. April 2014 17:09:54 MESZ, James E Lang jim+...@lang.hm wrote: Thank you Regina. Due to a quirk in DroidMail I am enclosing my responses in brackets [like this] to distinguish them from the text to which I'm responding. [ Oops. DroidMail should have been MailDroid, :-) ] -Original Message- From: Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 12:21 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Upgrade Problem on Windows Hi James, James E Lang schrieb: 4.0.4.2 - 4.1.5.3 After performing a cleanup on the volume there is only 207MB available on C: on a Windows XP system on which I'm working. After I specified that LO be installed on volume D: the installer still requires 427MB on C:. I hesitate to compress volume C:. Volume, Size, Available, Needed C:, 15GB, 207MB, 427MB D:, 107GB, 61GB, 352MB F:, 16GB, 6694MB, 0KB Is there any way to avoid using C:? (Growl! Windows. Bah, humbug!) Do you have used already methods to get more free place on drive C? [The cleanup to which I referred performed at least the first two of these.] Empty trash. Empty all temp or tmp folders. [I will have to look up how to do the next one for FireFox.] Empty the cache of your browser and/or move the location for the cache of you browser to drive D. [All of this misses my point which is that the installer requires space on one specific volume (I.e. on C:) and that this disk usage apparently cannot be redirected to another volume (e.g. D:). It looks like I might be able to migrate one application (Pegasus Mail) from volume C: to volume D:. That's simply a work-around — not a fix for the basi c problem.] [ -8== ] Kind regards Regina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Upgrade Problem on Windows
No, Tom. It's not. I agree that this volume is full beyond any sane level. The computer is a hobby machine. In a business environment it was pitched ages ago. The fact that it's still running XP should say something. :( -- Jim -Original Message- From: Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com To: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 12:00 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Upgrade Problem on Windows Hi :) Good point! Windows partition's over 20% full suffer a small performance hit. The curve steepens at around 50% and over 80% full performance drops away steeply. It's that final 20% that make a machine really kinda painful. Is it possible to resize the partitions? Regards from Tom :) On 28 April 2014 17:49, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 4/27/2014 2:39 PM, James E Lang jim+...@lang.hm wrote: Volume, Size, Available, Needed C:, 15GB, 207MB, 427MB 207MB free on your system partition? That is the problem you need to solve. I guarantee you are having serious performance issues right now and don't even know it, and crashes due to insufficient disk space on your system drive are only a short time away. Fix the problem. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Printer error in 4.2.3
Also reported as bug 6 Mal On Monday 28 Apr 2014 10:13:51 MR ZenWiz wrote: Thanks, gents. My only excuse is that it has been so long since I found an LO bug I forgot to look. I have commented on the bug. MR On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote: Hi *, Tom Davies wrote (26-04-14 20:31) Given how e3xperienced you are and how long you have been on the mailing list i would say just post a bug-report (or wait until the competition starts and post it then) [...] Tom, can you, when writing your kind advice for the people here to report a bug, pls also suggest that they look for possible existing bugs for the problem :) In this specific case for example I've seen this one yesterday https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77894 Thanks regards, Cor On 26 April 2014 19:04, MR ZenWiz mrzen...@gmail.com wrote: [...[ Could not start printer. Please check your configuration. The file prints anyway, but the error window is really annoying. -- Cor Nouws GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 - vrijwilliger http://nl.libreoffice.org - volunteer http://www.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Upgrade Problem on Windows
Hi James, James E Lang schrieb: Hi Florian. -Original Message- From: Florian Reisinger flo...@libreoffice.org To: LO Users users@global.libreoffice.org, James E Lang jim+...@lang.hm, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de Sent: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 8:23 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Upgrade Problem on Windows Hi, What I can imagine is the following: Some C++ redistributables. Please try a parallel installation (start the installer with the option /a). [ I was double clicking D:\Downloads\LibreOffice_4.1.5_Win_x86.msi How do I add option /a? ] Click on Start. There click on Run. You get an input line with label 'Open'. Enter the text cmd Now you get a command line window. Enter the following texts and finish each line with enter. D: cd Downloads msciexec /a LibreOffice_4.1.5_Win_x86.msi The reaction has a little bit delay. But then the installation wizard of LibreOffice should start. This is not a installation, bit an extraction. If you have questions, please ask :) [ Installation | extraction ? Are you saying that what I'm doing should be called an extraction or that option /a makes it an extraction? I think somebody stated that if extracted rather than installed, the new version would NOT be invoked by double clicking a document (e.g. pizzalog.ods). It will tell you that the files are to be _extracted_ to a net work drive. There you get the option to choose the destination, in your case drive D. It is correct, that this does not add any registry entries to provide call by doubleclick. But you can change that later. First you need to get this extraction and then we will help you with the next steps. Kind regards Regina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Upgrade Problem on Windows
Hi James, Regina Henschel schrieb: Click on Start. There click on Run. You get an input line with label 'Open'. Enter the text cmd Now you get a command line window. Enter the following texts and finish each line with enter. For a picture see http://www.openremote.org/download/attachments/11960398/WinXP-Run-CMD.png Kind regards Regina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Remove Properties and Personal Information
Joe B wrote: Hello list, I am having difficulty getting the Remove Properties and Personal Information link to work on the PropertiesDetails tab for a specific file that I would like to remove all personal information from When I click this link, I get a pop up box that that has two radio buttons. One radio button is: Create a copy with all possible properties removed. I selected that one and clicked OK. Then another box pops up that says You need permission to perform this action. You require permission from Joe-PC\Joe to make changes to this file. I click Try again and eventually it fails and says: Not all personal properties were cleared. Windows was unable to remove properties from the new copies of the selected files. Before sharing these files, you should review them for unwanted personal information. I realize this is much more a Windows 7 problem than a LibreOffice problem, but so was my last question :) What I've tried so far: 1.PropertiesSecurity tabEdit. Be careful arbitrarily messing about with the permissions. Adding more Allow permissions should be fairly safe, but if you start removing permissions or setting Deny permissions, you can end up making it difficult to regain access to the files! If that happens, taking ownership should be able to sort it out, although I'm not sure even that would help if you've explicitly denied yourself permission to set the file's permissions... In the box for Group or user names, I select Joe(Joe-PC\Joe). In the box below, Permissions for Joe, all items are checked as Allow, except for Special permissions. Special Permissions is an indication in that basic settings dialog that a combination of options has been selected in the advanced dialog which doesn't correspond to any of the other basic options (Full control, Modify, etc.) Since you have all permissions, this corresponds to Full control and is not a special combination. I click the Edit button. A new window pops up with just the Security tab showing. The top box shows Group or user names. I select Joe(Joe-PC\Joe). The bottom box below says Permissions for Joe. All of the permissions have a check box in the Allow column. Additionally, all of the allow check boxes are grayed out. Only the Deny checkboxes are check-able. The Special Permissions box is the only box that does not have a check in either Allow or Deny. Both of the Special Permissions boxes are grayed out. They're greyed out because the permissions are inherited from a higher-level folder. You can't remove the Allow permissions, but you can explicitly select to Deny them (don't do that unless you know what you're doing!) So my question boils down to, How do I get the Special Permissions box in the Security tab to be check-able? Special Permissions is not explicitly selectable, because it indicates an arbitrary combination of advanced options. 2. PropertiesSecurity tabAdvanced. In the Security tab, there is text at the bottom that says For special permissions or advanced settings, click Advanced. I click the Advanced button. A new windows pups up Advanced Security Settings for File foo.bar. On the Permissions tab, there is a box for Permission entries. There are 3 entries: SYSTEM, Administrators(Joe-PC\Administrators), Joe(Joe-PC\Joe). The Permission for all three is Full Control. Here you have finer-grained control of the permissions. Selecting, for example, Read in the basic settings corresponds to List folder..., Read attributes, Read extended attributes and Read permissions in this advanced settings dialog. If you were to select only, say, Read permissions here and go back to the basic permissions dialog, you'd find that Special permissions is selected (and greyed out since it doesn't correspond to a specific combination of options to be added/removed). Of course, if you're looking at inherited permissions here they'll be greyed out as above. It's probably best not to remove the option to include inheritable permissions, unless you know what you're doing and need to do that for some reason. It would seem to me that if I have Full Control permission, then the Special Permission check box should be check-able (not grayed out), but it's not check-able, and it is grayed out. What am I missing? Hopefully the above explanations help. Windows' help (accessed by clicking links in the lower left of the dialogs) seems quite good when it comes to explaining the permissions, and how the basic options map onto combinations of the advanced options. Or at least it is on Windows Vista; I'd hope it's at least as good in 7. Thank you so much for your help Joe I hope that helps clarify. Similar options exist in Windows XP, but most home users aren't aware of them because they create all users as administrators who can access everything. The various combinations of permissions can get quite complicated, particularly when it comes to inheritance and deny permissions,
Re: [libreoffice-users] List-reply issues... again
Paul wrote: ... But a while back I noticed that for someone I was replying to, the reply button addressed the reply to the person, and not the list. I can't remember who (or even when exactly) this was, but it was not the normal behavior. In that case I picked it up before sending the message, and just manually corrected the issue, I think. I'm can't remember if I tried the Reply to mailing list option, or what it did if I did. It may be that they had replied directly to you (perhaps using reply all to send a reply to the list as well), and since the email wouldn't have gone via the list server to get to you, it wouldn't have the list-post header added (which is what the Reply to mailing list would use). Just a guess. Mark. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Upgrade Problem on Windows
James E Lang wrote: 4.0.4.2 - 4.1.5.3 After performing a cleanup on the volume there is only 207MB available on C: on a Windows XP system on which I'm working. After I specified that LO be installed on volume D: the installer still requires 427MB on C:. I hesitate to compress volume C:. Volume, Size, Available, Needed C:, 15GB, 207MB, 427MB D:, 107GB, 61GB, 352MB F:, 16GB, 6694MB, 0KB Is there any way to avoid using C:? (Growl! Windows. Bah, humbug!) I wonder if the downloaded installer needs space in the temporary folder (which is on the C: drive by default) to self-extract and run the installer? It may be worth trying to set the TEMP and TMP environment variables to somewhere on the D: drive. To do this temporarily (just for this run): - Create a folder on the D: drive to use as the temporary folder (e.g. D:\temp) - Click Start Run - Enter cmd.exe and click OK - Type the following commands, pressing enter after each: set temp D:\temp set tmp D:\temp D: (or whatever drive letter the LO installer is on) cd Path to the LO installer Filename of the LO installer To do this permanently, I'm not sure of the exact sequence on XP but something along the lines of: - Create a folder on the D: drive to use as the temporary folder (e.g. D:\temp) - Open Control Panel System Advanced Environment Variables - Change the values for TEMP and TMP in the User variables section to D:\temp (you might want to make a note of the current values first in case you want to change them back later) - Click OK to everything - From now on, most software should use D:\temp for temporary storage, so just run the LO installer as normal. Mark. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] left/right pages
In the last few days, anytime I create a new LO Writer document it is formatted with left and right pages. And some of my past documents are formatted that way as well. I would like to return all my documents to single page format, but have been unsuccessful in discovering how to do this. Could it be related to a document which I created a while back with two columns? Though it does in fact have 2 columns, I discovered that it is identified as having only 1 column in the page format window (format page columns). Any help resolving either of these issues will be greatly appreciated. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] left/right pages
At 19:47 28/04/2014 -0700, Truett Bobo wrote: In the last few days, anytime I create a new LO Writer document it is formatted with left and right pages. And some of my past documents are formatted that way as well. I would like to return all my documents to single page format, but have been unsuccessful in discovering how to do this. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by this. If you print something double-sided - as LibreOffice expects - every document will necessarily have left pages and right pages. Do you mean that alternate pages are formatted in some different way? In that case, it might be helpful to know what this is. But in any case, it's difficult to imagine how a page formatting change could modify existing documents, as you suggest. I wonder whether you are merely describing the way that Writer displays your documents whilst you are editing them. If this is your problem, go to View | Zoom... . There are various settings there and you can experiment to find what suits you. You can also adjust these settings in a number of ways using controls at the right end of the Status Bar (at the bottom of the LibreOffice window). If, as it seems, you changed something inadvertently, it may be that you clicked on one of these controls in the Status Bar. Changes to the way you view documents do indeed stick for your installation of LibreOffice (or rather your use of it); I'm not sure whether they can affect the way you see existing documents. Note that there are similar but separate controls for how you view documents in Page Preview mode. Could it be related to a document which I created a while back with two columns? Very probably not. Though it does in fact have 2 columns, I discovered that it is identified as having only 1 column in the page format window (format page columns). If the page format you see has only one column but the document genuinely prints with two columns, there are a number of explanations: o The pages with two columns have a different page style from the one you checked. (Documents can have multiple page styles.) o The material in columns is contained in a section, a structure which can independently have multiple columns. o The material in columns is contained in a table. o The columns were constructed in some other way, perhaps in frames. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted