Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trial of LibreOffice

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Ahh, there used to be problems but i thought those had all been sorted
out.  The trick was to make sure that LO and AOO weren't actively running
at the same time - hence the need to disable the QuickStarter.

If there are still problems with a straight-forwards install alongside
OpenOffice then these instructions might help a re-try;
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel/OS_X

Apols if i made a tpyo and for guessing my probable intent so well :)

Also thanks to all who pointed out a possible error error in my advice and
for giving a good correction.  Also thanks to all the people who reassured
me that i had good reason for saying what i did. :))  Both are good
reasons, imo, for preferring forums/email-lists to traditional forms of
support that rely on a single point-of-contact.
Many thanks, good luck and regards from
Tom :)


On 1 October 2016 at 00:23, Jay Lozier  wrote:

>
>
> On 09/30/2016 06:19 PM, Girvin Herr wrote:
>
>> On 09/30/2016 02:23 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2016-10-01 04:21, V Stuart Foote wrote:
>>>
 TomD wrote

> There is no harm in having both LibreOffice and OpenOffice installed
> alongside each other.
> ...
>
 Actually they do not get along all that well, but will coexist if you
 perform a custom installation and disable the "Quick Starter" feature
 from
 in the Optional Components section both--and also clear the "File Type"
 dialog of checks to not assign a program association.

 Stuart

 I have had then running side by side on Linux fine for a few years, no
>>> special install. I still have to keep OO to cater for functionality dropped
>>> from LO and it works fine.
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> +1.
>>
>> AOO 4.1.2 + LO 5.0.6.3 + Slackware Linux 14.1 (k3.10.103). However, I do
>> not use the "Quick Starter" - my choice.  ...And vice-versa: LO still has
>> the Base Report Generator, AOO does not. So I keep them both for the
>> features I like and rely upon.
>>
>> Girvin Herr
>>
>>
>>
>> +1 AOO and LO "fresh" on Arch Linux, with the LO quick starter. No
> problems.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trial of LibreOffice

[Jay Lozier]

On 09/30/2016 06:19 PM, Girvin Herr wrote:

On 09/30/2016 02:23 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:



On 2016-10-01 04:21, V Stuart Foote wrote:

TomD wrote

There is no harm in having both LibreOffice and OpenOffice installed
alongside each other.
...

Actually they do not get along all that well, but will coexist if you
perform a custom installation and disable the "Quick Starter" 
feature from

in the Optional Components section both--and also clear the "File Type"
dialog of checks to not assign a program association.

Stuart

I have had then running side by side on Linux fine for a few years, 
no special install. I still have to keep OO to cater for 
functionality dropped from LO and it works fine.

Steve


+1.

AOO 4.1.2 + LO 5.0.6.3 + Slackware Linux 14.1 (k3.10.103). However, I 
do not use the "Quick Starter" - my choice.  ...And vice-versa: LO 
still has the Base Report Generator, AOO does not. So I keep them both 
for the features I like and rely upon.


Girvin Herr




+1 AOO and LO "fresh" on Arch Linux, with the LO quick starter. No problems.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trial of LibreOffice

[Girvin Herr]

On 09/30/2016 02:23 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:



On 2016-10-01 04:21, V Stuart Foote wrote:

TomD wrote

There is no harm in having both LibreOffice and OpenOffice installed
alongside each other.
...

Actually they do not get along all that well, but will coexist if you
perform a custom installation and disable the "Quick Starter" feature 
from

in the Optional Components section both--and also clear the "File Type"
dialog of checks to not assign a program association.

Stuart

I have had then running side by side on Linux fine for a few years, no 
special install. I still have to keep OO to cater for functionality 
dropped from LO and it works fine.

Steve


+1.

AOO 4.1.2 + LO 5.0.6.3 + Slackware Linux 14.1 (k3.10.103). However, I do 
not use the "Quick Starter" - my choice.  ...And vice-versa: LO still 
has the Base Report Generator, AOO does not. So I keep them both for the 
features I like and rely upon.


Girvin Herr



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trial of LibreOffice

[Steve Edmonds]

On 2016-10-01 04:21, V Stuart Foote wrote:

TomD wrote

There is no harm in having both LibreOffice and OpenOffice installed
alongside each other.
...

Actually they do not get along all that well, but will coexist if you
perform a custom installation and disable the "Quick Starter" feature from
in the Optional Components section both--and also clear the "File Type"
dialog of checks to not assign a program association.

Stuart

I have had then running side by side on Linux fine for a few years, no 
special install. I still have to keep OO to cater for functionality 
dropped from LO and it works fine.

Steve

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Trial of LibreOffice

[Alwyn]

Thanks Tom,

That's most helpful and I note that it also includes the tabs for Mac Users. 
It occurs to me that it is probably possible to set up a particular style
for a paragraph; this might be possible with a macro for example.  I will
explore these instructions.  My wife is still using Open Office but, as my
iMac is nearly 6 years old I am trying not to overload it with stuff.

By the way there seems to be a typo after the word MS Office.  I suspect you
meant to say a 'pain in the '





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[libreoffice-users] Re: Trial of LibreOffice

[V Stuart Foote]

TomD wrote
> There is no harm in having both LibreOffice and OpenOffice installed
> alongside each other.  
> ...

Actually they do not get along all that well, but will coexist if you
perform a custom installation and disable the "Quick Starter" feature from
in the Optional Components section both--and also clear the "File Type"
dialog of checks to not assign a program association.

Stuart



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Trial of LibreOffice

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
There is no harm in having both LibreOffice and OpenOffice installed
alongside each other.  Mostly i tend to find they are so much the same that
either will do, although i have a slight preference for LibreOffice.

I found these guides to be the best help with LibreOffice;
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications

Chapter 3 of the "Getting Started Guide" helps a lot with styles and
formatting but a long-term user of OpenOffice might not find anything
hugely new or different.

I tend to find most documents written with MS Office a pita tbh.  I tend to
just copy as "unformatted text" into a new document and then apply my
own formatting.  Back when i used to use MS Office too it would take hours,
even days, to reformat even a 1-2 page document to fit into the
newsletter.  Using "paste as plain text" (or as unformatted text) helped
quite a lot but LibreOffice/OpenOffice's "Styles" made such work take just
a few minutes.  I'm not sure what i'd do if the document was many pages
long or highly complex though.

Regards from
Tom :)



On 30 September 2016 at 13:16, Alexander Thurgood 
wrote:

> Le 30/09/2016 à 13:19, Alwyn a écrit :
>
> > The formatting issue remains to be resolved.
> >
>
> What can I say, the format painter uses hard formatting, and that is
> frowned upon by those who use styles ;-)
>
> It may of course be a bug in the format painter, searching in the
> LibreOffice bugzilla might enable you to find out if others have had the
> same problem.
>
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> Alex
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Trial of LibreOffice

[Alexander Thurgood]

Le 30/09/2016 à 13:19, Alwyn a écrit :

> The formatting issue remains to be resolved.
> 

What can I say, the format painter uses hard formatting, and that is
frowned upon by those who use styles ;-)

It may of course be a bug in the format painter, searching in the
LibreOffice bugzilla might enable you to find out if others have had the
same problem.


Alex



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Trial of LibreOffice

[Alwyn]

Thanks.  

I have downloaded both the latest version of Libre Office and the language
pack.  I think that the set up for Macs must be different as those options
aren't in Tools.  A search in Help showed them in
LibreOffice/Preferences/Languages etc.  I seem now to have succeeded in
changing language and date settings for all documents.

The formatting issue remains to be resolved.



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