Re: [libreoffice-users] Dot separated date in YYYY.MM.DD format

2015-01-01 Thread C. H. D.
Hello, 
Here are my thoughts written after the  sign in response to Brian Barker's 
ideas:

Spreadsheets generally used for calculation, so preventing it would usually be 
considered a 
drawback, not an advantage. You could put text 
values into word processor tables instead. But chacun à son goût.

 I forgot to mention: My colleagues use the computer like a typewriter.

Hold on: BC 1000.01.01. to BC .12.31. makes 
no sense, as your start date is after your end 
date! Do you mean BC .12.31. to BC 
1000.01.01.? But that starts at the end if the 
first year and finishes at the beginning of the 
end year, losing all but one day each of those 
two years. So perhaps you mean BC .01.01. to 
BC 1000.12.31.? That's better, but it still 
leaves you with what would be a roughly 
twenty-thousand year range - but with a strange 
central gap of 1998 years, from 999 BC (BCE) to 
AD 999 (CE) inclusive. I can't imagine you mean that.
 My suggestion was wrong. The date range should be: BC .01.01. to 
AD .12.31. The missing range should be in this form: e.g. BC 
0012.01.01.  1st January 12
 e.g. AD 0341.01.01.  1st January 341 e.g. AD 0016.01.01.  
1st January 16
 The leading zeros should help in sorting the dates.


Spreadsheets have always been able to handle 
text. I suspect most spreadsheet users would not 
see selecting text as a data type to be a workaround, beautiful or otherwise.
 My colleagues use the computer like a typewriter. That is why they want 
to input the date format as it looks. Another problem is that there are 
different computer systems, e.g. Windows XP, Windows 7, Office 2003, Office 
2007, Office 2010. Unfortunately, Microsoft products produce inconsistent 
results as usual in my environment. LibreOffice is changing and improving. 
 I consider recommending LibreOffice to my boss after making sure that it 
works consistently.



People make mistakes. One obvious limitation is 
that non-existent dates can be entered as easily 
as real ones. Entering 2015.02.29. as text 
creates something looking as much like a date as 
does 2015.02.28., whereas entering these 
(supposed) dates normally shows one as a 
right-aligned date and the other as left-aligned 
text. Only Erich Kästner and perhaps the 
Tiananmen Square protestors are allowed the 35th of May.

 Absolutely. Exactly a typist and typewriter can produce typos. A 
typist needs to accept no automatic check for non-existent date, e.g. 44 
January 2015. My boss appears to require the staff's human check instead 
of automatic check.

But I say again: chacun à son goût.
 I consider convincing my boss to use the automatic format. Custom format 
code: .MM.DD. which I know will produce 2015.01.01. without problems 
in LibreOffice. It is very hard for me to convice my boss. I don't 
know if there is any tutorial teaching me how to convince a typist to use the 
automatic tool. The typist is afraid of changing formats when the automatic 
tool is enabled. Computer software changes all the time. I myself cannot 
guarantee that the format will stay the same. Can the LibreOffice community 
guarantee the static format of date? Alternatively, can the community make a 
design standard to let the users know that the future versions of LibreOffice 
will handle the dates in the same way? How about quality assurance? Can the 
quality assurance people help to check this date handling consistency before 
releasing another improved version of LibreOffice. I am sure that with the 
guarantee or best practice of design, my colleagues (the typists) and I 
will be a bit comfortable in using LibreOffice for internal computing at 
least. Thanks for ideas.


Best wishes,C. H. D.


  
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Dot separated date in YYYY.MM.DD format

2014-12-31 Thread C. H. D.
Hello and happy new year!
At last, I knew how my colleagues strongly believed and what they wanted to 
achieve.
They wanted a date format which works across all known free, paid, old and new 
versions of spreadsheet program, e.g. LibreOffice Calc.
They decided to use .MM.DD. and MM.DD., e.g.
2015.01.01.  --- three dots. 1st January, 2015.
and 
01.01.   --- two dots. 1st January.
This format is standardized internally for communication. The good things are:
(1) The date is stored as text or string on the computer. It is not a 
number to the computer any more. Adding or subtracting dates is disabled. It 
is good for just displaying the dates, which my colleagues wanted.
(2) Because of (1), the date is not converted to 01/01/2015 or 2015-01-01 or 
01-01-2015 as these can be default formats. Such conversion is not welcomed 
because the input format is different from the displayed format. The user 
inputs .MM.DD. and the computer displays exactly the same format. This is 
the consistency my colleagues were desparately looking for.
(3) No additional configuration is necessary when using this .MM.DD. 
format. No time is spent on training staff to format a date to a certain form 
in a spreadsheet program. Then this is efficient. I simply sent a notice to all 
staff to follow the format on behalf of my boss.
(4)This format is good for sorting in the spreadsheet program. It is also used 
in naming files. File names can be sort accordingly.
(5) There is virtually a very large range of dates can be processed, e.g. 

AD 1000.01.01. to AD .12.31.
and 
BC1000.01.01. to BC .12.31.
(if extended to Y.MM.DD., the range will even be larger.)

because the date is not stored as a number and this is not limited to the 
design of the software (old and new). Constrained hardware can also process 
many dates in this format.

This .MM.DD. format is a beautiful workaround when only using it to display 
and sort dates.
I can think of two limitations. Firstly, there is no way to add or subtract 
dates as easily as before. (No problem because in my case, I only display and 
sort the dates, not adding or subtracting.) 

Secondly, the file size may be a bit or much larger because the text or 
string is stored. (No problem because of cheap hard disks.)
If your case is similar to my case, I welcome your use of this .MM.DD. 
format. 

Best wishes,C. H. D.












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Re: [libreoffice-users] Dot separated date in YYYY.MM.DD format

2014-12-27 Thread C. H. D.
 Hello all,

Thanks for following up.

A quick recap: I was looking for the .MM.DD format. The user inputs it as 
it looks, e.g. 2015.01.01. (LibreOffice Calc should recognise it as a date.)

Here:

Tools - Options - Language Settings - Languages - Date acceptance patterns

I don't know how this should be set.

I tried .MM.DD. This did not work.
(with the semicolon)

I tried Y.M.D. This worked.
(with the semicolon)

Here:

Format - Cells - Numbers - Format code

I must use .MM.DD, not Y.M.D.

What led to this inconsistent format? I am interested in the technical reasons 
behind.

I think that it will be consistent if a user is allowed to type the same 
.MM.DD format code in both places to get what she or he wants.

Best wishes,
C. H. D.


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[libreoffice-users] Dot separated date in YYYY.MM.DD format

2014-12-19 Thread C. H. D.
Hello all,
In a spreadsheet, I need the dot separated date in .MM.DD format, e.g.
2015.01.012015.12.11
Should I file a bug report to add this feature? Is it currently not available?

Please advise. Thanks.

C. H. D.
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Dot separated date in YYYY.MM.DD format

2014-12-19 Thread C. H. D.
Hello all,
When I enter 2015.01.01, it is recognized not as a date. How do I make it one 
step only? I enter it and it is detected as a date.

01-01-2015 is recognized as a date. Then I need to format this. Two steps are 
required. 
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[libreoffice-users] Puzzling table numbering

2013-07-16 Thread C. H. D.
Here is my table in Writer:

Table - Insert - Table - Columns 2 - Rows 4

row 1, column 1row 1, column 2
row 2, column 1row 2, column 2
row 3, column 1row 3, column 2
row 4, column 1row 4, column 2

Select the first column - numbering on



Select row 1, column 1, row 2, column 1 - Table - Merge Cells
Select row 3, column 1, row 4, column 1 - Table - Merge Cells

row 1+2, column 1row 1, column 2
   row 2, column 2
row 3+4, column 1row 3, column 2
   row 4, column 2

What should I do to get 
row 1+2, column 1 : 1.
row 3+4, column 1: 2.
?

I currently get
row 1+2, column 1 : 1.
row 3+4, column 1: 3.

This is reproducible in LibreOffice 3.6.6.2 (Build ID: f969faf) and 4.0.4.2 
(Build ID: 9e9821abd0ffdbc09cd8c52eaa574fa09eb08f2).


Really puzzling. Any ideas? Workarounds?



Best regards,


C. H. D.

 




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Puzzling table numbering

2013-07-16 Thread C. H. D.

Workarounds?

Yes:
o Number the rows manually.
o Create a table of two rows; nest other tables of one column and two 
rows each in the cells of the right column.
o Create separate tables for each column with appropriate numbers and 
heights of rows.  You may be helped by frames or by multiple columns 
in your page or in a section.

Great workarounds! I didn't think of those.

Regards,


C. H. D.






 Von: Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com
An: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Gesendet: 2:02 Mittwoch, 17.Juli 2013
Betreff: Re: [libreoffice-users] Puzzling table numbering
 

At 00:56 17/07/2013 +0800, Conly Honly Donly wrote:
Here is my table in Writer:

Table - Insert - Table - Columns 2 - Rows 4

row 1, column 1row 1, column 2
row 2, column 1row 2, column 2
row 3, column 1row 3, column 2
row 4, column 1row 4, column 2

Select the first column - numbering on

Select row 1, column 1, row 2, column 1 - Table - Merge Cells
Select row 3, column 1, row 4, column 1 - Table - Merge Cells

row 1+2, column 1row 1, column 2
                                row 2, column 2
row 3+4, column 1row 3, column 2
                                row 4, column 2

What should I do to get
row 1+2, column 1 : 1.
row 3+4, column 1: 2.
?

I currently get
row 1+2, column 1 : 1.
row 3+4, column 1: 3.

This is reproducible in LibreOffice 3.6.6.2 (Build ID: f969faf) and 
4.0.4.2 (Build ID: 9e9821abd0ffdbc09cd8c52eaa574fa09eb08f2).

Really puzzling. Any ideas?

I don't find this particularly puzzling: you have two merged cells 
across four rows of your table, not two cells in two rows.  The only 
reason you would merge cells instead of simply enlarging them is that 
you want to retain the separate cells in other columns.  The rows are 
still there and are still taken account of in numbering.

Workarounds?

Yes:
o Number the rows manually.
o Create a table of two rows; nest other tables of one column and two 
rows each in the cells of the right column.
o Create separate tables for each column with appropriate numbers and 
heights of rows.  You may be helped by frames or by multiple columns 
in your page or in a section.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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[libreoffice-users] Just missed pre-release checksum

2013-05-02 Thread C. H. D.
Hi! I just could not get the checksum here:

http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/4.0.3/deb/x86/LibreOffice_4.0.3.1_Linux_x86_deb.tar.gz.mirrorlist

or 


http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/testing/4.0.3/win/x86/LibreOffice_4.0.3.1_Win_x86.msi.mirrorlist

Please add them. Thanks a lot.

Best regards,
C. H. D.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Fractions in Maths

2013-04-16 Thread C. H. D.
Hello! At last, I have submitted a proposal to include an AutoCorrect option to 
type fractions with horizontal lines, e.g.

12
___
13

 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63610


I need fractions as they are related to equations, e.g.
4a
__=4
9


Regards,
C. H. D.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fractions in Maths

2013-04-16 Thread C. H. D.
Hi! I think an interesting reason may justify the enhancement request. 


It is a matter of speed. For me, I need to use the keyboard very often. Typing 
Alt+I+O+F {2a over 3} (Esc) (Esc) (17 keys) is slower. Typing 2a/3 (space) (5 
keys) is faster.

 
(17-5)/17*100=70.59%

That is about 70 per cent of reduction in the number of keys I need to type 
(not using the mouse)! Amazing!

Regards,
C. H. D.
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 寄件人︰ Marc Grober m...@interak.com
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傳送日期︰ 2013年04月17日 (週三) 1:51 AM
主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Fractions in Maths
 

I am likely late to this thread, but why won't using
sqrt{4a^2 over 9} = +- {2a over 3}
as an LO formula work for you, or  using
\sqrt{\frac{4a^2}{9}}=\pm\frac{2a}{3}
in TexMath

While it would be grand to be able to simply have LO parse TeX (or your
math notation of preference), the two options above seem reasonable
compromises

On 4/16/13 8:23 AM, C. H. D. wrote:
 Hello! At last, I have submitted a proposal to include an AutoCorrect option 
 to type fractions with horizontal lines, e.g.

 12
 ___
 13

  
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63610


 I need fractions as they are related to equations, e.g.
 4a
 __=4
 9


 Regards,
 C. H. D.
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[libreoffice-users] Just a new Easy Hack I think

2013-04-11 Thread C. H. D.


https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63432

FORMATTING: Change Case does not work in some situations when symbols appear 


Hi, I like the beauty of LibreOffice because many people can change it if they 
want to. I do not have enough programming skills but someone else may look into 
this potential Easy Hack. Thanks.



Regards,

C. H. D.

LibreOffice User


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[libreoffice-users] Fractions in Maths

2013-04-04 Thread C. H. D.


Hello, LibreOffice Developers and Supporters!

I need to handle some fractions in Maths in LibreOffice Writer. The fractions 
look like 1/2 or 10/40. I would like to make them look like:
 1
 -
 2
(no superscript and no subscript)

There are some possible ways to do this. A _proper_ way is: 
Insert - Object - Formula - {?} over {?} 

My imagination is like:
Autocorrect the text as object. When typing 5/6 (space), I get
 5
 -
 6
which is an object.
(Ctrl + Z would return 5/6 (space))

My second imagination is like: Using Find  Replace to replace 7/8 as 
 7
 -
 8
I could get the object option in the Find  Replace dialog. 
Find: */*
Replace: (format as object)
 *
 -
 *
This could convert all the horizontal styles into the vertical styles.

My third imagination is like:
In LibreOffice Calc and in a formula in LibreOffice Writer,
I could have =7/8+1/8.
I could also have
 7 1
=- +-
 8 8
(These are objects.)
where LibreOffice could perform the calculation and give me the result in 
fraction.

This post below really led me to think that typing fractions could be a part of 
the fundamental work a word processor should be able to do easily:

Formatting Text as a Fraction (on 20 May, 2009)
http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11t=18901

Is it possible to add the features? Am I simply too ambitious? Perhaps, the 
features are ready but I am missing something, aren't I?

Best regards,
C. H. D.
LibreOffice User







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Re: [libreoffice-users] Where is the checksum value or gpg signature?

2013-03-19 Thread C. H. D.


M... Perhaps, it is too hard to list the checksum values (for checking the 
integrity of files), I guess.

Isn't that really hard?

$ find . -type f | xargs sha512sum


Just the command above helps to list all checksum values of the files in the 
current directory.

Shall I say that this is an enhancement request for providing such values?

Best regards,
C. H. D.
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 寄件人︰ C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk
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傳送日期︰ 2013年03月19日 (週二) 10:21 AM
主題︰ [libreoffice-users] Where is the checksum value or gpg signature?
 
Hi!

I wonder if I can get the checksum value or the gpg signature for each of the 
file here.


http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/

I know that I am a user, not really a developer.

I know that I want to see if my bug is fixed.

I don't know if the file I download is complete or not.

Please tell me where I should consult.

Thank you.

Best wishes,
C. H. D.

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[libreoffice-users] Where is the checksum value or gpg signature?

2013-03-18 Thread C. H. D.
Hi!

I wonder if I can get the checksum value or the gpg signature for each of the 
file here.


http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/

I know that I am a user, not really a developer.

I know that I want to see if my bug is fixed.

I don't know if the file I download is complete or not.

Please tell me where I should consult.

Thank you.

Best wishes,
C. H. D.

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[libreoffice-users] Testing build for my computer

2013-02-18 Thread C. H. D.
Hello!

Where should I get the testing build for my computer?

 
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/libreoffice-4-0/

[DIR] Linux-x86@34-Release-Configuration-RHEL5-Baseline/    18-Feb-2013 06:27   
 -   
[DIR] Linux-x86_10-Release-Configuration/   19-Feb-2013 00:05   
 -   
[DIR] Linux-x86_64@31-Release-Configuration-RHEL5-Baseline/ 19-Feb-2013 02:37   
 -   
[DIR] Linux-x86_64_11-Release-Configuration/    


My computer uses Linux debian 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Sun Sep 23 09:49:36 UTC 2012 
i686 GNU/Linux.


Please give me some ideas.

Regards,

C. H. D.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Create Firefox Personas for LibreOffice 4 in LibreOffice 4

2013-02-15 Thread C. H. D.


 
Thanks for all the ideas.

The same task can be done in your ways as well.


Regards,

C. H. D. 

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傳送日期︰ 2013年02月14日 (週四) 7:24 PM
主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] Create Firefox Personas for LibreOffice 4 in 
LibreOffice 4
 
On 02/13/2013 11:31 PM, C. H. D. wrote:
 
 Hello!
 
 
 I did not find pixels in LibreOffice:
 
 Tools - Options - LibreOffice Draw
 
 - General - Unit of measurement
 
   That was why I used cm instead.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Regards,
 C. H. D.
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snip

https://www.getpersonas.com/en-US/demo_create

This is Firefox's site that walks you through the creation of Persona designs.  
Since LibreOffice uses their Persona guidelines, currently, I am going by their 
information.

They describe using a header image of 3000 pixels wide by 200 pixels high.
The footer size is 3000 pixels by 100 pixels.
They also have a file size limit of no more than 300KB for the images [total 
size of the two combined, I believe].

Now here it the sticking point.
Draw seems to want you to create pages, not specific images, like Corel Draw 
and Inkscape.  You must be able to create a specific image size, in pixels, and 
I do not know how to do that in Draw.

I just looked - There is a Pixel definition in the File  Export using the 
exporting to a JPG format.  There you can take your design and make it the 
correct pixel size.  All you have to do it make the image proportional to the 
needed pixel size. Make your page/image be in centimeters and use a box 300 
by 20 cm in size for your design area.  Then export it to the 3000 by 200 
pixels.

- - - -

What I did when I created a felt texture Persona was this:

I created a page wide design using all of the filters and texture-fills that 
Inkscape has.  I played around with them till I got a background image that I 
liked.  That was using vector graphics way of making designs, the way 
Inkscape and Draw does.

Then I exported the design to a bitmap image that is pixel based, like photos 
are.  I made sure it was exported to be at least 3000 pixels wide and 200 high.

Then I used a package, like GIMP, Paint Shop Pro, or Photoshop, to do some 
editing of the image to get the final design to be EXACTLY the 3000 pixel width 
and the 200 and 100 pixel high required for the Firefox specifications for a 
Persona.

At that point I tested the Persona design, to make sure it did look well and 
was not interfering with the header and footer menu and icons.  If you want to 
use it for LibreOffice 4.0.x and/or Firefox, you test the design[s] and tweak 
them before you decide they are working well for you.

At that point, currently, you can go through the posting process to get your 
Persona listed in the Firefox Gallery.  It is a simple process.

I have asked the question about the approval process and a gallery placement 
within a LibreOffice page, like we have fore templates and extensions.  We need 
approval if we use the official logo[s] for LibreOffice and TDF.

So, look into the Person design specifications on Firefox's page.  See if there 
is a way to create and export an image to a specific pixel size.  Since I have 
not learned how to use Draw properly, I do not know this process.


- - - -

I use Corel Draw and Inkscape for my vector graphics images and Paint Shop 
Pro [5] and GIMP for the bitmap/pixel editing work.  I use Ubuntu/Linux for my 
default OS on my desktop that I do most of my work.  I use Inkscape and GIMP on 
them.  I do use a Win7 and a Win XP/pro laptop[s] that I have Corel Draw, 
Inkscape, Paint Shop Pro [5] and GIMP installed on them.  I have been using 
specific packages for specific design processes. Since I have used Paint Shop 
Pro 5 [and other] for many year before I looked into using any Linux system, I 
find it easier to use it for some image editing needs.  Since I now use Linux 
for my desktop, I have been learning how it use GIMP for these editing 
processes.

To be honest, right now, I do not know much about Draw's abilities and how to 
use it properly.  It seems to be a vector graphics editor.  It would be nice 
if I learned that package well enough to use it for that, but I know other 
vector graphic package much better and therefore easier for me to do the needed 
design work.  I have been using some packages since they came out in the 
Windows 95/98 and XP days.  You use what it easier for you to use.  Maybe I 
will take the time to learn how to use Draw as well as I know the other 
packages, but that is not for the near future.


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[libreoffice-users] Look for step-by-step guide

2013-02-14 Thread C. H. D.


Hi!

I am new to debugging and programming. Referring to:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60710#c5

... do you have a debug symbols build you could run valgrind in to see if there 
is some memory corruption there ?

What documents should I consult to help me to understand what to do?

Where is the step-by-step guide, especially for LibreOffice 4? (I need detailed 
steps.)

Regards,

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Re: [libreoffice-users] personas for all users

2013-02-13 Thread C. H. D.
Hello!

I have copied the user profile. I have pasted the user profile into the proper 
folder.

I have got the same Firefox Persona.

I guess, it is a matter of copying user profile when it comes to multiple 
machines.

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile


Regards,
C. H. D.
LibreOffice User

 




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主題︰ [libreoffice-users] personas for all users
 
Can you install a persona for all users ie corporate branding
Is this actually possible ?


Ta


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Re: [libreoffice-users] personas for all users

2013-02-13 Thread C. H. D.
Additional information:

These two links may help:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProfile
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile


Regards,
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主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] personas for all users
 

Hello!

I have copied the user profile. I have pasted the user profile into the proper 
folder.

I have got the same Firefox Persona.

I guess, it is a matter of copying user profile when it comes to multiple 
machines.

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile


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LibreOffice User

 




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Can you install a persona for all users ie corporate branding
Is this actually possible ?


Ta


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Create Firefox Personas for LibreOffice 4 in LibreOffice 4

2013-02-13 Thread C. H. D.


Hello! 


I did not find pixels in LibreOffice:

Tools - Options - LibreOffice Draw 

- General - Unit of measurement

 
That was why I used cm instead.

Thanks.

Regards,
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主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] Create Firefox Personas for LibreOffice 4 in 
LibreOffice 4
 

In the Persona instructions on the Firefox page that help you through 
the process, they tell you the exact size of the image files.  Also, 
there are some example download images files to start the process as 
well.  I looked into this last month.  What I would do is download the 
image files they use as examples and then use them.  These files are 
shown in pixels not inches or any other measurement.  That is best.




On 02/13/2013 03:00 AM, C. H. D. wrote:
 Hello!

 Great to share how to make Firefox Personas for LibreOffice 4 in LibreOffice 
 4!

 It is very hard to measure the size of the image to be used in a Firefox 
 Persona. Feel free to learn more about that:

 Create Firefox Personas for LibreOffice 4
 http://youtu.be/AZeZzxN83HE

 After trying many times, I got the right size of the image and submitted the 
 Firefox Personas for LibreOffice 4.

 http://www.getpersonas.com/en-US/gallery/All/search?p=libreofficesearch.x=0search.y=0


 For your information, in LibreOffice Draw:

 Header image
 Width: 82.00cm or 32.28
 Height: 5.52cm or 2.17

 Footer image
 Width: 82.00cm or 32.28
 Height: 2.77cm or 1.09

 The gradient background is recommended.

 Regards,

 C. H. D.

  





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document

2013-02-12 Thread C. H. D.


 
Thanks for the idea.

I would say that the development team responded very quickly. When I submitted 
a bug regarding not being able to open an OpenDocument file, the development 
team figured out the issue and made a patch in three days! Amazingly fast!

I test that OpenDocument file and it will open in LibreOffice 4 (current 
version). Great!

I think the development team will work it out soon. 


LibreOffice is good because the development team responds quickly.


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主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular 
document
 
this mailing like doesn't like attachments, you can download it from there:
convertidor_odf.7z (320 KB)
https://mega.co.nz/#!o8IXHa7Q!JgsZ0xKsAagxtkHxy-c2lnacVUdN6zPJRcCGyJ_oRbo

best regards


Al 12/02/2013 13:58, En/na pasqual milvaques pons ha escrit:
 in situations like this, independently of the work to be done to make 
 libreoffice capable of opening those files you can use a version of microsoft 
 office which supports odf to convert the file to odt. this can be an 
 effective workaround
 
 I attach you the converted file (using microsoft office 2013). you can use 
 these software to do the conversion from a shell:
 http://code.officeshots.org/trac/officeshots/browser/trunk/OfficeConvert
 
 I attach also a bat file which can help to automatize the conversion process
 
 best regards
 
 
 Al 12/02/2013 13:29, En/na C. H. D. ha escrit:
 Hello!
 
 Do I support LibreOffice? Yes, I do.
 
 Let me show some positive numbers:
 
 When I downloaded 400 .doc files, I opened 399 files in LibreOffice.
 
 Only 1 could not be opened.
 
 All 400 files were smaller than or equal to 692.5 KB. I started the testing 
 from the smallest file to the largest file. It happened to be that I could 
 not open that one file which was 692.5 KB.
 
 I am not a Maths expert. 399/400 = 99.75%
 
 Congratulations! This is excellent! Well done.
 
 To make a rough conclusion, I claim in a reasonable way that LibreOffice can 
 open 99.75% of the .doc files I may come across in future if these files are 
 smaller than 700KB.
 
 I do not know if these numbers are scientific enough. However, such 
 information definitely helps me to say that LibreOffice 4 is really good!
 
 Microsoft Office is not my area of interest, by the way. It is just that 
 someone uses it. There were cases when Word could not open .doc files in the 
 past. These cases are not my area of interest.
 
 Regards,
 
 C. H. D.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 document
   On 12/02/2013, C. H. D.webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk  wrote:
 Hello!
 
 
 Yes, my Microsoft Office is legal. (Just happened that many other people use
 it.)
 
 
 I think it is an interoperability issue.
 
 If you are very concerned about interoperability, you should be
 contacting m$ and ask them why they cannot open odf documents created
 using LO. Have you done this?
 
 I searched the Internet and looked for documents randomly to test if
 LibreOffice can open them. This is the authentic test.
 
 No, a more authentic test is to search for odf documents and compare
 of LO and m$ opens these types of documents.
 
 If Microsoft Office opens the .doc files correctly, LibreOffice should also
 open them correctly.
 
 No, LO is not a m$-clone. If LO opens the odt document correctly, m$
 should also. Have you tested this?
 
 If Microsoft went bankrupt, what office suite would be able to handle
 thousands of .doc files?
 
 Unlikely, but that is the fault entirely of the user that creates the
 document in the m$ file format!!!
 
 If LO, or any other odf-compliant software disappears, you can find
 another. That is why you should be testing interoperability with odf
 and not m$ formats.
 
 Then, the data in the .doc files would be lost if no other office suite was
 able to open them, I am afraid.
 
 I hope that happens (but a small possibility).
 
 Not many people like converting .doc files into .odt files, I am afraid.
 
 That is their choice. Start creating documents in odf!
 
 
 



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60710 - EDITING: Cannot save particular untitled document containing comments

2013-02-12 Thread C. H. D.


Hi! I got it. To reproduce, see the video:

http://youtu.be/_XotQrTvGJM 


Add random comments. Delete one of them.

I reproduced this issue three times.


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untitled document containing comments
 
I reproduced it once and now for the life of me I can't.very strange.
Trying a few more times


Best Regards,
Joel


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 Hello!

 In my use case, I cannot save a particular untitled document.


 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60710

 I should be grateful if you have a look.

 The video is here:
 http://youtu.be/9ImnaTY65gA



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60710 - EDITING: Cannot save particular untitled document containing comments

2013-02-12 Thread C. H. D.


 
Someone else got the same issue:

http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/12015/cannot-save-file-error-in-writing-sub-document/


Perhaps, this issue is quite common. 


(Not being able to save the file could be very inconvenient.)

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主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60710 - EDITING: Cannot save particular 
untitled document containing comments
 


Hi! I got it. To reproduce, see the video:

http://youtu.be/_XotQrTvGJM 


Add random comments. Delete one of them.

I reproduced this issue three times.


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C. H. D.

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untitled document containing comments

I reproduced it once and now for the life of me I can't.very strange.
Trying a few more times


Best Regards,
Joel


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webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk wrote:



 Hello!

 In my use case, I cannot save a particular untitled document.


 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60710

 I should be grateful if you have a look.

 The video is here:
 http://youtu.be/9ImnaTY65gA



 Regards,

 C. H. D.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Page count does not match visible pages

2013-02-11 Thread C. H. D.
Hello!


In that case, I think there should be an enhancement request, e.g. 

Page 1 / 2   1 / 3
Page 2 / 2   3 / 3

The page count should display both cases. This will certainly be less confusing.

At present, the page count is:

Page 1 / 3

Page 1  3 / 3



I agree that the PDF option
Export automatically inserted blank pages

makes the three pages.

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主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] Page count does not match visible pages
 
At 08:39 11/02/2013 +0800, Conly Honly Donly wrote:
 2013/02/10 10:42 PM, Brian Barker:
 At 21:36 10/02/2013 +0800, Conly Honly Donly wrote:
 I think I have found a bug.
 
 I'm not so sure.
 
 This potential bug may affect printing, e.g. producing blank pages because 
 the page count does not look correct.
 
 In double-sided printing, odd-numbered pages need to be rectos, or 
 right-hand pages, and even ones versos, or left-hand pages. Your second page 
 is numbered 1, so LibreOffice expects to print it on the front of a second 
 leaf, not on the reverse of the first leaf. So you have three pages: the 
 first page, the blank reverse, and your second page, numbered 1. Go to 
 File | Page Preview to see the extra page.
 
 If you want to print single-sided, go to Tools | Options... | LibreOffice 
 Writer | Print | Other, and remove the tick from Print automatically 
 inserted blank pages. Then you won't get a blank sheet. You can make the 
 same selection on the fly through the Options... button in the Print 
 dialogue.
 
 I have tried: (both checking and unchecking)
 
 Tools | Options... | LibreOffice Writer | Print | Other | Print 
 automatically inserted blank pages
 
 The page count still appears as 3/3. It seems that this option is not 
 relevant, I am afraid.

Sorry, but you misunderstand me. What I am saying is that everything you see is 
by design, and will not be seen as a bug: Writer still sees three pages, even 
if you choose to print only two of these.

 Consider File - Export as PDF. In both cases, only two pages are visible in 
 each PDF file.

That's because the same option is controlled separately for exporting to PDF. 
The PDF Options dialogue, which you see when you use File | Export as PDF..., 
has, at the foot of the General tab, a separate Export automatically inserted 
blank pages tick box. Yours must currently be unticked. Writer thinks that if 
you print that exported PDF document double-sided, you will need that extra 
page - to ensure that your second significant page prints on the front of the 
second sheet, not on the reverse of the first.

I suppose that there is no simple answer to this which takes account of both 
single- and double-sided printing in an intuitive fashion.  But there's no bug, 
I think.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] [Writer] Current page value?

2013-02-11 Thread C. H. D.


Hello!

I am one of the many users. I have made a video (less than two minutes). If you 
turn on the captions in the video, you will see the steps in words.

Show or hide page number (footer) on last page in LibreOffice 4

http://youtu.be/FAbtRoIP8-o 

The feature of Page Styles helps me to customize the last page in less than 
two minutes. I do not know if this works for you. I do not know a faster way to 
do the things you described, i.e. to be continued to be printed on all pages 
except the last one.

For your information:

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Other_Documentation_and_Resources#Video_Tutorials

Regards, 
C. H. D.






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主題︰ [libreoffice-users] [Writer] Current page value?
 
Hello,

does anyone know if it is possible to retrieve the current page number in a 
pre-defined variable in Writer?

The page count is available through the PAGE var, but I can't find anywhere (or 
do I have missed smthg?) a way to test against the current page num.

The aim is to have some text in the footer of any page, but the last one (eg 
to be cont'd) without regard to the pages styles.

TIA
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[libreoffice-users] Bug 60710 - EDITING: Cannot save particular untitled document containing comments

2013-02-11 Thread C. H. D.


Hello!

In my use case, I cannot save a particular untitled document. 


https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60710

I should be grateful if you have a look.

The video is here:
http://youtu.be/9ImnaTY65gA



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C. H. D.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document

2013-02-11 Thread C. H. D.
Hello!

 
Yes, my Microsoft Office is legal. (Just happened that many other people use 
it.)


I think it is an interoperability issue.

I searched the Internet and looked for documents randomly to test if 
LibreOffice can open them. This is the authentic test.


I cannot contact the author since the document was downloaded randomly.


If Microsoft Office opens the .doc files correctly, LibreOffice should also 
open them correctly.


If Microsoft went bankrupt, what office suite would be able to handle thousands 
of .doc files?

Then, the data in the .doc files would be lost if no other office suite was 
able to open them, I am afraid.

Not many people like converting .doc files into .odt files, I am afraid.


Regards,

C. H. D. 


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主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular 
document
 
On 11/02/2013, C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk wrote:


 Hello!


 I cannot open a particular file in LibreOffice, but I can open it in
 Microsoft Office.


Good for you; your copy of m$ is legal?

 I would appreciate it if you take a look.


 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60390


Not a bug, unless the original document was created in odf. Did you
contact the author and explain that the document cannot be opened in
LO? What did the author say?
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[libreoffice-users] Page count does not match visible pages

2013-02-10 Thread C. H. D.


Hello!

I think I have found a bug. I have submitted the bug report.


https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60594


This potential bug may affect printing, e.g. producing blank pages because the 
page count does not look correct.


Is there any other information which is necessary to make the report complete?

I wonder if it is a problem of LibreOffice in general or my version of 
LibreOffice only.


Regards,

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Page count does not match visible pages

2013-02-10 Thread C. H. D.
Hello!

Thanks for responding and giving advice. I am glad that I have supplied enough 
information for the Quality Assurance team to reproduce this issue. Thanks a 
lot.

I have tried: (both checking and unchecking)


Tools | Options... | LibreOffice Writer | Print | Other | Print automatically 
inserted blank pages


The page count still appears as 3/3. It seems that this option is not relevant, 
I am afraid.

Consider File - Export as PDF. In both cases, only two pages are visible in 
each PDF file.


Regards,
C. H. D.


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傳送日期︰ 2013年02月10日 (週日) 10:42 PM
主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] Page count does not match visible pages
 
At 21:36 10/02/2013 +0800, Conly Honly Donly wrote:
 I think I have found a bug.

I'm not so sure.

 This potential bug may affect printing, e.g. producing blank pages because 
 the page count does not look correct.

In double-sided printing, odd-numbered pages need to be rectos, or right-hand 
pages, and even ones versos, or left-hand pages.  Your second page is numbered 
1, so LibreOffice expects to print it on the front of a second leaf, not on 
the reverse of the first leaf.  So you have three pages: the first page, the 
blank reverse, and your second page, numbered 1.  Go to File | Page Preview 
to see the extra page.

If you want to print single-sided, go to Tools | Options... | LibreOffice 
Writer | Print | Other, and remove the tick from Print automatically inserted 
blank pages.  Then you won't get a blank sheet.  You can make the same 
selection on the fly through the Options... button in the Print dialogue.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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[libreoffice-users] Bug 60390 - FILEOPEN: Cannot open particular document

2013-02-10 Thread C. H. D.


Hello!


I cannot open a particular file in LibreOffice, but I can open it in Microsoft 
Office. 


I would appreciate it if you take a look.


https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60390


Regards,

C. H. D.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] How-to video of using Firefox Personas

2013-02-08 Thread C. H. D.
Hello!

I have just watched the video provided:

 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2bbnyAjMeMfeature=youtu.be

I think this video is tidy. (I have not used CMIS.) The voice is nice.


I think I have kept my video as short as about two minutes. I think people will 
not have the patience. (Most people I know do not have patience.)

I also feel that two minutes is the key. If a video is longer than that, then 
the process must be very long. Very serious users will spend more than two 
minutes on watching such a long video.

If I need to use CMIS tomorrow (being very nervous), I will need to know how to 
do it as soon as possible. I suggest giving the audience the most important 
steps first. 


The link mentioned is for more advanced users, I believe.

Regards,
C. H. D.





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收件人︰ C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk 
傳送日期︰ 2013年02月8日 (週五) 1:03 PM
主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] How-to video of using Firefox Personas
 

Hi :)
Nicely done :)  Have you sent it to the documentation mailing list?  They might 
be interested in putting it on their page of video tutorials.  

Btw have you seen this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2bbnyAjMeMfeature=youtu.be
that uses an unusual sound-track and a minimalist voice to help keep people's 
attention?  

I've seen a lot of YouTube HowTos that have sound-tracks that quickly get very 
out-dated by choosing music that is very fashionable but that lacks class.  I 
don't like the particular piece of music in that link i just gave but i do like 
the way that it's unusual enough that people are unlikely to have heard it 
before and certainly not enough to get tired of it.  

Also a lot of times videos have constant chatter going on, often without really 
adding
 adding anything useful.  Lots of umm and ahh and Here you can see that i 
am doing or As you can see.  The constant flow of words makes it difficult 
to translate and yet keep the timings good.  

What i really liked about the voice in the link i gave was that the speaking 
parts were short and distinct so that when it was translated from Danish into 
English the chap was able to chop up Pamela's voice and place the comments in 
exactly the right places.  So, Pamela only had to leave decent pauses between 
statements.  She didn't have to get the pauses exactly right because Leif was 
going to chop up the voice-audio and place the parts appropriately to fit the 
video and the music.  

I think the only thing missing is an srt file under the video so that people 
could download the srt and the video in order to see the  subtitles.  
Alternatively just some way people could get the script in some other text
 format.  Either way something for blind users to be able to get through their 
screen-readers.  

Anyway i really just wondered what you thought of the link.  Have you done a 
lot of these sorts of things?  Yours looked like you knew what you were doing.  
If you do write a script i might be able to get Pamela or another lady to read 
it for you as long as the script was quite short and if they could re-arrange 
it a bit to make it flow better when saying the words out loud.    

Regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk
To: LibreOffice User Support Mailing List users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Friday, 8 February 2013, 1:34
Subject: [libreoffice-users] How-to video of using Firefox Personas
 
Hello!

I have just created the how-to video of using Firefox Personas:

http://youtu.be/97EvPYgY3Js

I hope this video will help people to understand how to create a fancy look in 
LibreOffice. Feel free to watch.

Regards,
C. H. D.








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[libreoffice-users] GPG public key

2013-02-01 Thread C. H. D.


Hi!

I would appreciate it if there is an icon or a prominent sign showing the 
public key.

Where is the public key for this:

gpg --import libreoffice.gpg

gpg --verify libreoffice.asc  libreoffice.tar.gz

?

If you give me the link: 

http://.../.../.../gpg

,I should be grateful.


Regards,

C. H. D.






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Re: [libreoffice-users] GPG public key

2013-02-01 Thread C. H. D.
Thanks a lot. I have got the key by


$ gpg --keyserver hkp://keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys AFEEAEA3


.


Regards,

C. H. D.

 




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傳送日期︰ 2013年02月2日 (週六) 11:00 AM
主題︰ Re: [libreoffice-users] GPG public key
 
On 13-02-01 08:25 PM, C. H. D. wrote:

 Hi!

 I would appreciate it if there is an icon or a prominent sign showing the 
 public key.
 Where is the public key for this:

 gpg --import libreoffice.gpg
 gpg --verify libreoffice.asc  libreoffice.tar.gz

 ?

 If you give me the link: 
 http://.../.../.../gpg


You can obtain it from a public key server, for example:
$ gpg --keyserver hkp://keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys /AFEEAEA3/

It's also here:
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0xF434A1EFAFEEAEA3

Cheers,

F.

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[libreoffice-users] Reset the profile

2013-01-27 Thread C. H. D.


Hello! Regarding this bug report:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59270

What steps should I follow to reset the profile?

I have already done:

rm -r ./.config/libreoffice/4

on Debian Linux.

Any ideas? :)

(Basically, I would like to confirm a bug but I do not know how to reset the 
profile except that rm command.)

Are there other things I should do to confirm the bug? What are they? :)

Regards,
C. H. D.






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[libreoffice-users] Long division or long multiplication?

2013-01-25 Thread C. H. D.


Hello!

Certainly, LibreOffice Math does a lot of things.

How do I type the numbers in long division or long multiplication?

For example,
   ___
2) 240

 40
x32
_



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C. H. D.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Quality Assurance

2013-01-16 Thread C. H. D.
Hello,

I think DiffPDF is somewhat reliable. If I also use Adobe Reader to view the 
potential difference, the comparison will be more reliable. 

If I also convert the PDF to text and compare the text files, the comparison 
will be very reliable.

Using three tools should make the comparison very reliable. At last, I can save 
some time and report the real bug.

Regards,
C. H. D.





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--- 2013年1月17日 星期四,Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk 寫道﹕

寄件人: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
主題: Re: [libreoffice-users] Quality Assurance
收件人: Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu, users@global.libreoffice.org 
users@global.libreoffice.org
日期: 2013年1月17日,星期四,上午12:59

Hi :)
Testing Pdf readers is an SEP (=somebody else's problem).  It would be good if 
we can liase with other office apps such as email-clients and database 
back-ends but our primary concern is LibreOffice.  I agree that if a 3rd party 
tool is being used then we can only use it as an indicator rather than having 
complete confidence in the result.  
Regards from
Tom :)  







 From: Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Wednesday, 16 January 2013, 13:46
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Quality Assurance
 
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013, Tom Davies wrote:

 Hi :)
 Do you know if it isn't?

no.

the conclusion?

I wouldn't assume I could depend on its results without further investigation. 
that's why I asked the OP why this particular test instrument.

   I think it's a good idea to check the integrity of Pdfs that are output.

sure.

   often we focus tooo much (imo) on the integrity of MS formats which will 
 always look different on every machine.  People seem to be using Pdfs quite 
 a lot more now and it would be nice to know that ones we create work 
 properly, or at least consistently.

we also need to know our pdf readers work properly or at least consistently.

F.

 If specific potential problems can be pinned down then i think we are in a 
 better position to have more confidence in our outputs.  Bear in mind that 
 Pdf output is significantly better in LibreOffice than in MSO.  LO offers 
 far more options and some of those improve accessibility (specifically 
 better for screen-readers) and for uncompressed or more compressed output.  
 MSO offers freedom FROM choice. 

 Regards from
 Tom :)  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 16 January 2013, 4:23
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Quality Assurance
 
 On Wed, 16 Jan 2013, C. H. D. wrote:
 
 Hello!
 
 Thanks for this idea. I report a bug related to LibreOffice.
 
 I guess, there must be something different if DiffPDF says the two PDF 
 files are different. (maybe visible in Document Viewer (Evince) or in 
 Adobe Reader)
 
 I look for that difference and report the bug accordingly.
 
 (to repeat the question) you are certain diffpdf is reliable?
 
 F.
 
 
 Regards,
 C. H. D.
 
 
 
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 寄件人: Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu
 主題: Re: [libreoffice-users] Quality Assurance
 收件人: users@global.libreoffice.org
 日期: 2013年1月16日,星期三,上午7:13
 
 On Wed, 16 Jan 2013, C. H. D. wrote:
 
 Hi!
 
 Recently, I started learning more about computer software. (I am new and 
 I do not know too much about programming.)
 
 I do not know how to rate the quality of the office application. If I say 
 this is good, I will expect that the document is displayed in the _same_ 
 way, e.g. in the previous version and the next version and the subsequent 
 version and the future versions.
 
 I spent some time on doing (experimenting?) this. I searched the Internet 
 and looked for OpenDocument files I can download. They are random (just 
 searched by some random keywords).
 
 I did:
 LibreOffice 3
 File - Export as PDF - PDF/A-1a - Export
 
 LibreOffice 4
 File - Export as PDF - PDF/A-1a - Export
 
 There were tens of files. I used DiffPDF to compare the differences. If I 
 notice a difference, I will report a bug.
 
 [...]
 
 do you report a bug about LO or a bug about DiffPDF?
 
 F.
 
 -- Felmon Davis
 
 According to all the latest reports, there was no truth in any of the
 earlier reports.
 

-- Felmon Davis

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[libreoffice-users] Switch off warnings

2013-01-11 Thread C. H. D.
Hi!

When using PDF/A, the following messages were shown.

During PDF export the following problems occurred:

PDF/A forbids transparency. A transparent object was painted opaque instead.

Some objects were converted to an image in order to remove transparencies, 
because the target PDF format does not support transparencies. Possibly better 
results can be achieved if you remove the transparent objects before exporting.

I am fully informed. Is there a way to switch off these warnings? How?

Is there a better way to display the warnings, e.g. 
1. display warnings for 20 seconds and stop displaying them automatically, or 
2. display warnings in an action bar?

In both cases, users should be allowed to do other things without confirming 
that they see the warnings.

At present, users must press OK or the x before they can do other things.

Maybe, there should be a part like:
Tools - Options - LibreOffice - Warnings 
- 
( checked ) Enable warnings when XXX
( checked ) Enable warnings when YYY
( checked ) Enable warnings when ZZZ

This looks systematic.

Regards,
C. H. D.






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[libreoffice-users] No version named 4.0.0.0 RC1

2013-01-11 Thread C. H. D.
Hello!

I think the version numbers have not been refreshed properly.

I cannot report the bugs in LibreOffice 4 Release Candidate 1 here:

https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/

The error message I get is:

There is no version named '4.0.0.0 RC1' in the 'LibreOffice' product. 

Regards,
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Switch off warnings

2013-01-11 Thread C. H. D.

Hi!

I have submitted the enhancement request. Thanks.

https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=59271

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--- 2013年1月12日 星期六,Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com 寫道﹕

寄件人: Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com
主題: Re: [libreoffice-users] Switch off warnings
收件人: users@global.libreoffice.org
日期: 2013年1月12日,星期六,下午2:57

On 01/11/2013 06:07 PM, C. H. D. wrote:
 Hi!
 
 When using PDF/A, the following messages were shown.
 
 During PDF export the following problems occurred:
 
 PDF/A forbids transparency. A transparent object was painted opaque instead.
 
 Some objects were converted to an image in order to remove transparencies, 
 because the target PDF format does not support transparencies. Possibly 
 better results can be achieved if you remove the transparent objects before 
 exporting.
 
 I am fully informed. Is there a way to switch off these warnings? How?
 
 Is there a better way to display the warnings, e.g.
 1. display warnings for 20 seconds and stop displaying them automatically, or
 2. display warnings in an action bar?
 
 In both cases, users should be allowed to do other things without confirming 
 that they see the warnings.
 
 At present, users must press OK or the x before they can do other things.
 
 Maybe, there should be a part like:
 Tools - Options - LibreOffice - Warnings
 -
 ( checked ) Enable warnings when XXX
 ( checked ) Enable warnings when YYY
 ( checked ) Enable warnings when ZZZ
 
 This looks systematic.
 
 Regards,
 C. H. D.
 
Great idea, can you report it to bugzilla as an enhancement request. I can even 
imagine a scrolling warning across the bottomlots of options, I dig the 
idea though.


Best Regards,
Joel
 
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No version named 4.0.0.0 RC1

2013-01-11 Thread C. H. D.
Hello!

Thanks! I can submit the bugs.

Regards,
C. H. D.




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--- 2013年1月12日 星期六,Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com 寫道﹕

寄件人: Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com
主題: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: No version named 4.0.0.0 RC1
收件人: users@global.libreoffice.org
日期: 2013年1月12日,星期六,下午1:41

On 01/11/2013 09:18 PM, Dan Lewis wrote:
 On 01/12/2013 12:14 AM, NoOp wrote:
 On 01/11/2013 08:04 PM, C. H. D. wrote:
 Hello!

 I think the version numbers have not been refreshed properly.

 I cannot report the bugs in LibreOffice 4 Release Candidate 1 here:

 https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/

 The error message I get is:

 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=LibreOfficebug_status=UNCONFIRMED
  

 Does it make any difference if you use LibreOffice 4.0.0.1 RC1?

 --Dan

I made a mistake on freedesktop. The correct version is not RC1 but 
instead 4.0.0.1 rc, you should see this now in BSA and it'll work right. 
Please let me know if this doesn't correct the problem and apologies for 
the inconvenience.

Have a great weekend everyone!

Best Regards,
Joel

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Ignore system input language

2013-01-10 Thread C. H. D.
Hi!

I must be missing something.

Finally, I searched
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.0

No idea at all? Ignore system input language?

Regards,
C. H. D.





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--- 2013年1月9日 星期三,C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk 寫道﹕

寄件人: C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk
主題: Re: [libreoffice-users] Ignore system input language
收件人: users@global.libreoffice.org
日期: 2013年1月9日,星期三,下午10:54

Hi!

After all, what does Ignore system input language mean in LibreOffice 4.0.0.0 
Beta2?

I don't see any Writer Guide or things like that.

Where should I consult?

Regards,
C. H. D.


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--- 2013年1月5日 星期六,C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk 寫道﹕

寄件人: C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk
主題: Re: [libreoffice-users] Ignore system input language
收件人: users@global.libreoffice.org
日期: 2013年1月5日,星期六,上午9:06

Hi! Okay, I tried to figure it out.

If I use Ctrl+space to switch the input method, LibreOffice (LO) will follow 
the input method on Windows 7.

For example, if I use a Traditional Chinese (TC) input method, the language of 
the characters will be marked as TC in LO. If I use a Simplified Chinese (SC) 
input method, the characters will be marked as SC in LO.

If I check Ignore system input language, I will expect LO to ignore the 
latest input method provided by Windows 7.

However, this does not work. No difference is visible. LO always use the 
language specified by the input method. (If the input method is TC, the 
characters will always be TC.)

On Debian Linux, the language is always marked as the one under the heading 
Default languages for documents in LO. If the Asian box is TC, my SC 
characters will be marked as TC (even if
 I use a TC input method). If the Asian box is SC, my TC characters will be 
marked as SC (even if I use an SC input method).

 Checking or unchecking Ignore system input language does not make any 
difference on Debian Linux.


Regards,
C. H. D.


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--- 2013年1月5日 星期六,C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk 寫道﹕

寄件人: C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk
主題: [libreoffice-users] Ignore system input language
收件人: users@global.libreoffice.org
日期: 2013年1月5日,星期六,上午12:12

Hi!

Here is an interesting option but I do not know what it does. 

In LibreOffice Writer 4.0.0.0 Beta2, 
Tools - Options
 - Language Settings - Languages - Ignore system input language

I use LibreOffice Version 4.0.0.0.beta2 (Build ID: 
4104d660979c57e1160b5135634f732918460a0) on Debian Linux.

I searched the Internet and found
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/PATCH-fdo36324-fdo42929-option-to-ignore-system-input-language-changes-td4016517.html

However, I still do not know how I may benefit by checking or unchecking the 
box. Any ideas in layman's terms?

(Should I ignore this new option on Windows / Debian Linux?)

(Should the option be called Customize input language? Ignore is an 
ambiguous term.)

Regards,
C. H. D.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Ignore system input language

2013-01-09 Thread C. H. D.
Hi!

After all, what does Ignore system input language mean in LibreOffice 4.0.0.0 
Beta2?

I don't see any Writer Guide or things like that.

Where should I consult?

Regards,
C. H. D.


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--- 2013年1月5日 星期六,C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk 寫道﹕

寄件人: C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk
主題: Re: [libreoffice-users] Ignore system input language
收件人: users@global.libreoffice.org
日期: 2013年1月5日,星期六,上午9:06

Hi! Okay, I tried to figure it out.

If I use Ctrl+space to switch the input method, LibreOffice (LO) will follow 
the input method on Windows 7.

For example, if I use a Traditional Chinese (TC) input method, the language of 
the characters will be marked as TC in LO. If I use a Simplified Chinese (SC) 
input method, the characters will be marked as SC in LO.

If I check Ignore system input language, I will expect LO to ignore the 
latest input method provided by Windows 7.

However, this does not work. No difference is visible. LO always use the 
language specified by the input method. (If the input method is TC, the 
characters will always be TC.)

On Debian Linux, the language is always marked as the one under the heading 
Default languages for documents in LO. If the Asian box is TC, my SC 
characters will be marked as TC (even if
 I use a TC input method). If the Asian box is SC, my TC characters will be 
marked as SC (even if I use an SC input method).

 Checking or unchecking Ignore system input language does not make any 
difference on Debian Linux.


Regards,
C. H. D.


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--- 2013年1月5日 星期六,C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk 寫道﹕

寄件人: C. H. D. webofht-libreoffice...@yahoo.com.hk
主題: [libreoffice-users] Ignore system input language
收件人: users@global.libreoffice.org
日期: 2013年1月5日,星期六,上午12:12

Hi!

Here is an interesting option but I do not know what it does. 

In LibreOffice Writer 4.0.0.0 Beta2, 
Tools - Options
 - Language Settings - Languages - Ignore system input language

I use LibreOffice Version 4.0.0.0.beta2 (Build ID: 
4104d660979c57e1160b5135634f732918460a0) on Debian Linux.

I searched the Internet and found
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/PATCH-fdo36324-fdo42929-option-to-ignore-system-input-language-changes-td4016517.html

However, I still do not know how I may benefit by checking or unchecking the 
box. Any ideas in layman's terms?

(Should I ignore this new option on Windows / Debian Linux?)

(Should the option be called Customize input language? Ignore is an 
ambiguous term.)

Regards,
C. H. D.




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[libreoffice-users] Ignore system input language

2013-01-04 Thread C. H. D.
Hi!

Here is an interesting option but I do not know what it does. 

In LibreOffice Writer 4.0.0.0 Beta2, 
Tools - Options - Language Settings - Languages - Ignore system input 
language

I use LibreOffice Version 4.0.0.0.beta2 (Build ID: 
4104d660979c57e1160b5135634f732918460a0) on Debian Linux.

I searched the Internet and found
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/PATCH-fdo36324-fdo42929-option-to-ignore-system-input-language-changes-td4016517.html

However, I still do not know how I may benefit by checking or unchecking the 
box. Any ideas in layman's terms?

(Should I ignore this new option on Windows / Debian Linux?)

(Should the option be called Customize input language? Ignore is an 
ambiguous term.)

Regards,
C. H. D.




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[libreoffice-users] Update the website

2013-01-02 Thread C. H. D.

Hi,

I think the following page should be updated:

http://www.libreoffice.org/download/?type=win-x86lang=en-USversion=4.0.0


Download LibreOffice
This is a pre-release version not meant for general use.

LibreOffice Windows, version 4.0.0, English (US). Not the version you wanted? 
Change System, Version or Language

This is LibreOffice 3.6.0, prepared with care and presented with pride by the 
LibreOffice community. But since this is the very first version in the 3.6 
series, please make sure you read the release notes (see right).

LibreOffice is made available by volunteers around the globe, backed by a 
charitable Foundation.

Regards,
C. H. D.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: HELP for libreOfficeWRITER Problem

2011-11-10 Thread H. D.
while effecting the recovery of documents (automatically done clicking on
 the libreofficewriter icon), after pressing next or cancel a black screen
 with a lot ofsoftware code lines shows up. whole system is blocked by this
 (mouse in moving but without function) and has to be restarted by power
 interruption!

 thanks your quick response!



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