Re: [libreoffice-users] LO5.1 on Linux - Opening Writer document takes >1hr
Hi Wiebe, I will share my experience with this. However, my spare time is somewhat limited. So it might take some before I get around to it. -- Cheers, PatrickOn Sun, 2016-02-14 at 12:28 +0100, Wiebe van der Worp wrote: > On 14-02-16 10:33, Patrick Dijkgraaf wrote: > > While it is not a real solution to my problem, this might be > > something > > for me to look into! I didn't know about this feature and it sounds > > great! > > I do have some concers about cross-references between subdocuments > > and > > table calculations with values from tables in a different > > subdocument. > > Really like to hear your feed back on this. > > I am having trouble with master document constructions and no one on > this list could help. An assumption: Not many on this list work with > large and complex documents and experiences are probably appreciated. > > http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/msg46555.html > describes > my problem. > > Follow ups: > http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/msg46652.html > http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/msg46659.html > http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/msg4.html > http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/msg46671.html > > Long story short: If you run into trouble, the first follow up > contains > a procedure to solve re-paginating: > > * Open document > * Update index > * Update selection for every satellite/sub document (using navigator) > * Update index again > > The last follow up is a suggestion not to wrap, i.e. select > picture/object > RMB > Wrap > No Wrap. > > Hoping memory is serving well, I tested a 500 page document without > any > errors and came to the conclusion that if you insert pictures/objects > as > character, LO renders it straight away. > > But... If you don't like to spoil empty paper then RMB wrapping > objects > is a must, leaving one with the need to update selections manually > as > described above. > > Why this long text? It sounds familiar (900+ pages boiling down to > 400+ > pages), so it might be a related problem and that makes curious. > > If you search the net you will find a few more unsolved cases where > large documents contain empty parts (like 900+ minus 400+ pages = > ~500 > initial white space). > > One last thing, you probably want to share one template for both the > master and all satellite documents. You may like "Template Changer > 1.2.7" by André Schnabel, works fine on 5.0.2.2. See > http://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=103039, a pity > it > is not a standard functionality in LO. > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO5.1 on Linux - Opening Writer document takes >1hr
Hi Tim, While it is not a real solution to my problem, this might be something for me to look into! I didn't know about this feature and it sounds great! I do have some concers about cross-references between subdocuments and table calculations with values from tables in a different subdocument. But, I'll get myself educated and see if it is a feasable option...! ☺ Thanks! -- Cheers, PatrickOn Sun, 2016-02-14 at 13:15 +1100, Tim Lloyd wrote: > Hi Patrick, > > While this does not address your problem directly, I wonder whether > it > is possible to break your document down into a master document with > sub > documents: > > https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Master_Documents_and_Subdocuments > > There is also a section devoted to this topic in the writer manual: > > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/ > > Based on the size and complexity of your document, migrating in this > direction is initially going to take a bit of time and effort. It > won't > be easy! But, again, based on what you have told us, management of > the > existing document is likely to throw up continuous challenges which > may > be avoidable. > > Sorry I can't answer your existing problem but I hope I have > provided > food for thought. > > Cheers > > On 14/02/16 04:54, Patrick Dijkgraaf wrote: > > Hi all, hope you are doing well! > > > > Maybe someone is willing to help me with an issue I am having. > > > > I have this (pretty extensive) LO Writer document. It is ~471 pages > > and > > it contains many tables, pictures, cross references, calculations > > and > > custom document properties. The file size is about 28MB. Allthough > > it > > was slow, editing the document with LO up to 5.0.4 (on both Arch > > Linux > > and Windows) was OK. > > > > Today I got updated to LO 5.1.0.3 through the Arch Linux > > repositories > > and now, i run into the following issue: > > > > Symptoms: > > * The document opens in about 1 minute (which is acceptable, > > considering the size and complexity of the document) > > * Initially LO says it is about 1644 pages (though it should be > > about 471) > > * For a few seconds LO Writer seems to be responsive > > * Then LO becomes unresponsive (soffice.bin pushing one CPU core > > to 100%) > > * After more than an hour, LO becomes responsive again and the > > amount of pages is a nice 471 again (which is correct) > > * I am then able to edit the document > > > > Technical Info: > > * Document size: 27MB > > * Document type: ODT > > * Document editing history: Built in LO 4.x, only edited with LO > > versions up to the latest > > * LO Version (experiencing the problem): 5.1.0.3 > > * OS: Arch Linux, 64-bit (latest updates) > > * System hardare: Dell XPS15 (9530) laptop with Intel Core i7 CPU > > and 16GB RAM > > > > Things I've already tried: > > * Delete LO configuration (~/.config/libreoffice) -> issue > > persists > > * Save the document with LO5.1 -> Resulting file is only ~22MB > > (as opposed to the original: 28MB) -> same issue as with the > > original file > > * Disable the use of Java (was enabled by default) -> issue > > persists > > * Open the file in LO 5.1.0.3_X64 (upgrade from 5.0.4) inside a > > Windows 10 (64-bit) VM -> issue does not occur > > * Uninstall & Reïnstall of LibreOffice 5.1.0.3 -> issue persists > > * Reboot my laptop -> issue persists > > * Tried another (smaller) document -> No issue > > * Had a friend test it on his Debian machine, running LO 5.1 -> > > has the same issue > > > > So it looks like this issue only occurs with large documents (or > > just > > this one?) on Linux versions of LibreOffice 5.1. > > > > Is anybody able and willing to help me on this? > > Due to the size of the file and intellectual property reasons, I > > did > > not add (a link to) the file. I can make the file available upon > > request, please let me know. > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO5.1 on Linux - Opening Writer document takes >1hr
On 14-02-16 10:33, Patrick Dijkgraaf wrote: While it is not a real solution to my problem, this might be something for me to look into! I didn't know about this feature and it sounds great! I do have some concers about cross-references between subdocuments and table calculations with values from tables in a different subdocument. Really like to hear your feed back on this. I am having trouble with master document constructions and no one on this list could help. An assumption: Not many on this list work with large and complex documents and experiences are probably appreciated. http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/msg46555.html describes my problem. Follow ups: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/msg46652.html http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/msg46659.html http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/msg4.html http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/msg46671.html Long story short: If you run into trouble, the first follow up contains a procedure to solve re-paginating: * Open document * Update index * Update selection for every satellite/sub document (using navigator) * Update index again The last follow up is a suggestion not to wrap, i.e. select picture/object > RMB > Wrap > No Wrap. Hoping memory is serving well, I tested a 500 page document without any errors and came to the conclusion that if you insert pictures/objects as character, LO renders it straight away. But... If you don't like to spoil empty paper then RMB wrapping objects is a must, leaving one with the need to update selections manually as described above. Why this long text? It sounds familiar (900+ pages boiling down to 400+ pages), so it might be a related problem and that makes curious. If you search the net you will find a few more unsolved cases where large documents contain empty parts (like 900+ minus 400+ pages = ~500 initial white space). One last thing, you probably want to share one template for both the master and all satellite documents. You may like "Template Changer 1.2.7" by André Schnabel, works fine on 5.0.2.2. See http://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=103039, a pity it is not a standard functionality in LO. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO5.1 on Linux - Opening Writer document takes >1hr
Hi Dan, Thanks for your suggestion! To test, increased memory settings: Graphics Cache - Use for LibreOffice: 20 -> 100 - Memory per object: 5.2 -> 10 - Remove from memory: 0:10 -> 0:30 Cache for inserted objects - Number of objects: 20 -> 50 Result: issue persists. Would you recommend me to go even higher? Inside the Windows VM, the document opens without issues with the default memory settings so I believe it should be able to do it with these (default and increased) settings on Linux also... -- Cheers, PatrickOn Sat, 2016-02-13 at 16:16 -0500, elderdanlewis wrote: > Do you have enough memory allocated for LibreOffice? Tools > Options > > LibreOffice > Memory. > > Dan > > Original message > From: Patrick Dijkgraaf <bolderb...@duckstad.net> > Date:02/13/2016 12:54 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Subject: [libreoffice-users] LO5.1 on Linux - Opening Writer document > takes >1hr > > Hi all, hope you are doing well! > > Maybe someone is willing to help me with an issue I am having. > > I have this (pretty extensive) LO Writer document. It is ~471 pages > and > it contains many tables, pictures, cross references, calculations and > custom document properties. The file size is about 28MB. Allthough it > was slow, editing the document with LO up to 5.0.4 (on both Arch > Linux > and Windows) was OK. > > Today I got updated to LO 5.1.0.3 through the Arch Linux repositories > and now, i run into the following issue: > > Symptoms: > * The document opens in about 1 minute (which is acceptable, > considering the size and complexity of the document) > * Initially LO says it is about 1644 pages (though it should be about > 471) > * For a few seconds LO Writer seems to be responsive > * Then LO becomes unresponsive (soffice.bin pushing one CPU core to > 100%) > * After more than an hour, LO becomes responsive again and the amount > of pages is a nice 471 again (which is correct) > * I am then able to edit the document > > Technical Info: > * Document size: 27MB > * Document type: ODT > * Document editing history: Built in LO 4.x, only edited with LO > versions up to the latest > * LO Version (experiencing the problem): 5.1.0.3 > * OS: Arch Linux, 64-bit (latest updates) > * System hardare: Dell XPS15 (9530) laptop with Intel Core i7 CPU and > 16GB RAM > > Things I've already tried: > * Delete LO configuration (~/.config/libreoffice) -> issue persists > * Save the document with LO5.1 -> Resulting file is only ~22MB (as > opposed to the original: 28MB) -> same issue as with the original > file > * Disable the use of Java (was enabled by default) -> issue persists > * Open the file in LO 5.1.0.3_X64 (upgrade from 5.0.4) inside a > Windows 10 (64-bit) VM -> issue does not occur > * Uninstall & Reïnstall of LibreOffice 5.1.0.3 -> issue persists > * Reboot my laptop -> issue persists > * Tried another (smaller) document -> No issue > * Had a friend test it on his Debian machine, running LO 5.1 -> has > the same issue > > So it looks like this issue only occurs with large documents (or just > this one?) on Linux versions of LibreOffice 5.1. > > Is anybody able and willing to help me on this? > Due to the size of the file and intellectual property reasons, I did > not add (a link to) the file. I can make the file available upon > request, please let me know. > > Thanks in advance! > > -- > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > Patrick > > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-un > subscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netique > tte > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot > be deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] LO5.1 on Linux - Opening Writer document takes >1hr
Hi all, hope you are doing well! Maybe someone is willing to help me with an issue I am having. I have this (pretty extensive) LO Writer document. It is ~471 pages and it contains many tables, pictures, cross references, calculations and custom document properties. The file size is about 28MB. Allthough it was slow, editing the document with LO up to 5.0.4 (on both Arch Linux and Windows) was OK. Today I got updated to LO 5.1.0.3 through the Arch Linux repositories and now, i run into the following issue: Symptoms: * The document opens in about 1 minute (which is acceptable, considering the size and complexity of the document) * Initially LO says it is about 1644 pages (though it should be about 471) * For a few seconds LO Writer seems to be responsive * Then LO becomes unresponsive (soffice.bin pushing one CPU core to 100%) * After more than an hour, LO becomes responsive again and the amount of pages is a nice 471 again (which is correct) * I am then able to edit the document Technical Info: * Document size: 27MB * Document type: ODT * Document editing history: Built in LO 4.x, only edited with LO versions up to the latest * LO Version (experiencing the problem): 5.1.0.3 * OS: Arch Linux, 64-bit (latest updates) * System hardare: Dell XPS15 (9530) laptop with Intel Core i7 CPU and 16GB RAM Things I've already tried: * Delete LO configuration (~/.config/libreoffice) -> issue persists * Save the document with LO5.1 -> Resulting file is only ~22MB (as opposed to the original: 28MB) -> same issue as with the original file * Disable the use of Java (was enabled by default) -> issue persists * Open the file in LO 5.1.0.3_X64 (upgrade from 5.0.4) inside a Windows 10 (64-bit) VM -> issue does not occur * Uninstall & Reïnstall of LibreOffice 5.1.0.3 -> issue persists * Reboot my laptop -> issue persists * Tried another (smaller) document -> No issue * Had a friend test it on his Debian machine, running LO 5.1 -> has the same issue So it looks like this issue only occurs with large documents (or just this one?) on Linux versions of LibreOffice 5.1. Is anybody able and willing to help me on this? Due to the size of the file and intellectual property reasons, I did not add (a link to) the file. I can make the file available upon request, please let me know. Thanks in advance! -- Cheers, Patrick -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] LO5.1 on Linux - Opening Writer document takes >1hr
Do you have enough memory allocated for LibreOffice? Tools > Options > LibreOffice > Memory. Dan Original message From: Patrick Dijkgraaf <bolderb...@duckstad.net> Date:02/13/2016 12:54 PM (GMT-05:00) To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] LO5.1 on Linux - Opening Writer document takes >1hr Hi all, hope you are doing well! Maybe someone is willing to help me with an issue I am having. I have this (pretty extensive) LO Writer document. It is ~471 pages and it contains many tables, pictures, cross references, calculations and custom document properties. The file size is about 28MB. Allthough it was slow, editing the document with LO up to 5.0.4 (on both Arch Linux and Windows) was OK. Today I got updated to LO 5.1.0.3 through the Arch Linux repositories and now, i run into the following issue: Symptoms: * The document opens in about 1 minute (which is acceptable, considering the size and complexity of the document) * Initially LO says it is about 1644 pages (though it should be about 471) * For a few seconds LO Writer seems to be responsive * Then LO becomes unresponsive (soffice.bin pushing one CPU core to 100%) * After more than an hour, LO becomes responsive again and the amount of pages is a nice 471 again (which is correct) * I am then able to edit the document Technical Info: * Document size: 27MB * Document type: ODT * Document editing history: Built in LO 4.x, only edited with LO versions up to the latest * LO Version (experiencing the problem): 5.1.0.3 * OS: Arch Linux, 64-bit (latest updates) * System hardare: Dell XPS15 (9530) laptop with Intel Core i7 CPU and 16GB RAM Things I've already tried: * Delete LO configuration (~/.config/libreoffice) -> issue persists * Save the document with LO5.1 -> Resulting file is only ~22MB (as opposed to the original: 28MB) -> same issue as with the original file * Disable the use of Java (was enabled by default) -> issue persists * Open the file in LO 5.1.0.3_X64 (upgrade from 5.0.4) inside a Windows 10 (64-bit) VM -> issue does not occur * Uninstall & Reïnstall of LibreOffice 5.1.0.3 -> issue persists * Reboot my laptop -> issue persists * Tried another (smaller) document -> No issue * Had a friend test it on his Debian machine, running LO 5.1 -> has the same issue So it looks like this issue only occurs with large documents (or just this one?) on Linux versions of LibreOffice 5.1. Is anybody able and willing to help me on this? Due to the size of the file and intellectual property reasons, I did not add (a link to) the file. I can make the file available upon request, please let me know. Thanks in advance! -- Cheers, Patrick -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO5.1 on Linux - Opening Writer document takes >1hr
Hi Patrick, While this does not address your problem directly, I wonder whether it is possible to break your document down into a master document with sub documents: https://help.libreoffice.org/Writer/Master_Documents_and_Subdocuments There is also a section devoted to this topic in the writer manual: http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/ Based on the size and complexity of your document, migrating in this direction is initially going to take a bit of time and effort. It won't be easy! But, again, based on what you have told us, management of the existing document is likely to throw up continuous challenges which may be avoidable. Sorry I can't answer your existing problem but I hope I have provided food for thought. Cheers On 14/02/16 04:54, Patrick Dijkgraaf wrote: Hi all, hope you are doing well! Maybe someone is willing to help me with an issue I am having. I have this (pretty extensive) LO Writer document. It is ~471 pages and it contains many tables, pictures, cross references, calculations and custom document properties. The file size is about 28MB. Allthough it was slow, editing the document with LO up to 5.0.4 (on both Arch Linux and Windows) was OK. Today I got updated to LO 5.1.0.3 through the Arch Linux repositories and now, i run into the following issue: Symptoms: * The document opens in about 1 minute (which is acceptable, considering the size and complexity of the document) * Initially LO says it is about 1644 pages (though it should be about 471) * For a few seconds LO Writer seems to be responsive * Then LO becomes unresponsive (soffice.bin pushing one CPU core to 100%) * After more than an hour, LO becomes responsive again and the amount of pages is a nice 471 again (which is correct) * I am then able to edit the document Technical Info: * Document size: 27MB * Document type: ODT * Document editing history: Built in LO 4.x, only edited with LO versions up to the latest * LO Version (experiencing the problem): 5.1.0.3 * OS: Arch Linux, 64-bit (latest updates) * System hardare: Dell XPS15 (9530) laptop with Intel Core i7 CPU and 16GB RAM Things I've already tried: * Delete LO configuration (~/.config/libreoffice) -> issue persists * Save the document with LO5.1 -> Resulting file is only ~22MB (as opposed to the original: 28MB) -> same issue as with the original file * Disable the use of Java (was enabled by default) -> issue persists * Open the file in LO 5.1.0.3_X64 (upgrade from 5.0.4) inside a Windows 10 (64-bit) VM -> issue does not occur * Uninstall & Reïnstall of LibreOffice 5.1.0.3 -> issue persists * Reboot my laptop -> issue persists * Tried another (smaller) document -> No issue * Had a friend test it on his Debian machine, running LO 5.1 -> has the same issue So it looks like this issue only occurs with large documents (or just this one?) on Linux versions of LibreOffice 5.1. Is anybody able and willing to help me on this? Due to the size of the file and intellectual property reasons, I did not add (a link to) the file. I can make the file available upon request, please let me know. Thanks in advance! -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
