Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem pasting spreadsheet cells into Impress

2012-02-04 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2012-02-03 4:35 PM, Cor Nouws  wrote:

Tanstaafl wrote (31-01-12 12:42)

On 2012-01-30 3:36 PM, Cor Nouws  wrote:

I tried in 3.4.5 and it works there fine too. Ctrl-V creates a nice
Impress-table with the content that I copy from Calc.



But... we don't want to convert the copied cells into an Impress Table
when pasting them, [...]



Hmm. I then I was mislead by (one of) your first post(s) in this thread:



Tanstaafl wrote (13-01-12 22:17)

Whenever I try to copy some cells from a spreadsheet and paste the into
an Impress Presentation Libreoffice (and Openoffice used to do the same
thing) totally locks up goes into never-never land, and I have to kill
it.



Sorry about that,


No problem, sorry for being a little unclear, and thanks for your 
efforts at reproducing the problem...


The main point of my question/report - which I failed to emphasize - was 
the fact that the default format when copy/pasting cells from a 
spreadsheet into an Impress document had *changed* from calc8 to an 
Impress Table, which was causing the problems we were having.


The fact is, it is the fact that it defaults to pasting as an Impress 
Table that causes the problem (appearing to go into 'lala land' whenever 
there is any content of significance that is copied/pasted).


Also, when testing with just a few cells of simple text content (no 
formatting/colors/styles applied on a larger selection of cells (say, 10 
columns and 20 rows), it does work better, but it still takes a *much* 
longer time to paste than I think it should (10 seconds? 15? 20?), but 
it doesn't totally lock up. But, when copy/pasting a larger set of cells 
with styles applied (and maybe some lo res graphics inside the cells), 
that is when it goes into lala land. But, to be more precise... I think 
I do recall waiting once (not doing anything else on the PC during this 
time) and it did *eventually* come back to life with the cells pasted in 
as a table after maybe 10 or 15 *minutes*, but the result was totally 
unusable anyway (the table was way, way bigger than the same content 
pasted as calc8 content and no amount of trying to reformat it would help).


I will get a sample document that exhibits the problem, and open a bug 
and attach the document. I'll report back here with the bug # once I've 
done this, and maybe you could then try the precise steps to reproduce 
the problem to verify it with the sample document in the bug...


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem pasting spreadsheet cells into Impress

2012-02-03 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi,

Tanstaafl wrote (31-01-12 12:42)

On 2012-01-30 3:36 PM, Cor Nouws  wrote:



I tried in 3.4.5 and it works there fine too. Ctrl-V creates a nice
Impress-table with the content that I copy from Calc.


But... we don't want to convert the copied cells into an Impress Table
when pasting them, [...]


Hmm. I then I was mislead by (one of) your first post(s) in this thread:

Tanstaafl wrote (13-01-12 22:17)

Whenever I try to copy some cells from a spreadsheet and paste the into
an Impress Presentation Libreoffice (and Openoffice used to do the same
thing) totally locks up goes into never-never land, and I have to kill it.


Sorry about that,

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem pasting spreadsheet cells into Impress

2012-02-01 Thread TomW

On 2012-02-01 06:33, Tanstaafl wrote:

On 2012-01-31 6:19 PM, TomW  wrote:

On 2012-01-31 06:42, Tanstaafl wrote:

On 2012-01-30 3:36 PM, Cor Nouws  wrote:

I tried in 3.4.5 and it works there fine too. Ctrl-V creates a nice
Impress-table with the content that I copy from Calc.



But... we don't want to convert the copied cells into an Impress Table
when pasting them, we want them to be an embedded 'spreadsheet', that
when double-clicked, allows you to edit it as if it was a spreadsheet.
This is how it used to work a long time ago - and how Microsoft Office
works by default.

I don't know which version/update changed this...

I'll have to find an example spreadsheet/Presentation that causes this
problem and file a bug and upload them to it...

Thanks for checking Cor...



Tanstaafl:

OOo 2.4.2 pastes as a calc8 file by default.
OOo 3.2.1 pastes as table of cells by default.


Hi Tom,

Thanks very much for looking at this, but a question to confirm...

It looks like you didn't check every version in between, just figured 
out that it changed somewhere between 2.4.2 and 3.2.1, correct?


Now, I guess the questions are, 1) what was the precise version where 
this behavior changed, 2) was the change intentional, and 3) if so, 
*why*.


Imho, the default behavior should mimic MSO (the most popular office 
package with the largest installed base, whether one likes it or not).


Cor? anyone? Should I just go file a bug?



Tanstaafl:

The earliest I have found that changed to pasting as a table is 
OOo3.0.1.  I may have the release notes archived somewhere.


TomW


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem pasting spreadsheet cells into Impress

2012-02-01 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2012-01-31 6:19 PM, TomW  wrote:

On 2012-01-31 06:42, Tanstaafl wrote:

On 2012-01-30 3:36 PM, Cor Nouws  wrote:

I tried in 3.4.5 and it works there fine too. Ctrl-V creates a nice
Impress-table with the content that I copy from Calc.



But... we don't want to convert the copied cells into an Impress Table
when pasting them, we want them to be an embedded 'spreadsheet', that
when double-clicked, allows you to edit it as if it was a spreadsheet.
This is how it used to work a long time ago - and how Microsoft Office
works by default.

I don't know which version/update changed this...

I'll have to find an example spreadsheet/Presentation that causes this
problem and file a bug and upload them to it...

Thanks for checking Cor...



Tanstaafl:

OOo 2.4.2 pastes as a calc8 file by default.
OOo 3.2.1 pastes as table of cells by default.


Hi Tom,

Thanks very much for looking at this, but a question to confirm...

It looks like you didn't check every version in between, just figured 
out that it changed somewhere between 2.4.2 and 3.2.1, correct?


Now, I guess the questions are, 1) what was the precise version where 
this behavior changed, 2) was the change intentional, and 3) if so, *why*.


Imho, the default behavior should mimic MSO (the most popular office 
package with the largest installed base, whether one likes it or not).


Cor? anyone? Should I just go file a bug?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem pasting spreadsheet cells into Impress

2012-01-31 Thread TomW

On 2012-01-31 06:42, Tanstaafl wrote:

On 2012-01-30 3:36 PM, Cor Nouws  wrote:

Tanstaafl wrote (27-01-12 18:29)

Any chance you could try in a stable version?

We are using 3.4.3, 3.4.4 and 3.4.5 (haven't updated all yet)...



I tried in 3.4.5 and it works there fine too. Ctrl-V creates a nice
Impress-table with the content that I copy from Calc.


But... we don't want to convert the copied cells into an Impress Table 
when pasting them, we want them to be an embedded 'spreadsheet', that 
when double-clicked, allows you to edit it as if it was a spreadsheet. 
This is how it used to work a long time ago - and how Microsoft Office 
works by default.


I don't know which version/update changed this...

I'll have to find an example spreadsheet/Presentation that causes this 
problem and file a bug and upload them to it...


Thanks for checking Cor...



Tanstaafl:

OOo 2.4.2 pastes as a calc8 file by default.
OOo 3.2.1 pastes as table of cells by default.

All on Vista (No rocks please)

TomW

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem pasting spreadsheet cells into Impress

2012-01-31 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2012-01-30 3:36 PM, Cor Nouws  wrote:

Tanstaafl wrote (27-01-12 18:29)

Any chance you could try in a stable version?

We are using 3.4.3, 3.4.4 and 3.4.5 (haven't updated all yet)...



I tried in 3.4.5 and it works there fine too. Ctrl-V creates a nice
Impress-table with the content that I copy from Calc.


But... we don't want to convert the copied cells into an Impress Table 
when pasting them, we want them to be an embedded 'spreadsheet', that 
when double-clicked, allows you to edit it as if it was a spreadsheet. 
This is how it used to work a long time ago - and how Microsoft Office 
works by default.


I don't know which version/update changed this...

I'll have to find an example spreadsheet/Presentation that causes this 
problem and file a bug and upload them to it...


Thanks for checking Cor...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem pasting spreadsheet cells into Impress

2012-01-30 Thread Cor Nouws

Tanstaafl wrote (27-01-12 18:29)


Any chance you could try in a stable version?

We are using 3.4.3, 3.4.4 and 3.4.5 (haven't updated all yet)...


I tried in 3.4.5 and it works there fine too. Ctrl-V creates a nice 
Impress-table with the content that I copy from Calc.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem pasting spreadsheet cells into Impress

2012-01-27 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2012-01-26 5:05 PM, Cor Nouws  wrote:

Hi,
Tanstaafl wrote (13-01-12 22:17)


Whenever I try to copy some cells from a spreadsheet and paste the into
an Impress Presentation Libreoffice (and Openoffice used to do the same
thing) totally locks up goes into never-never land, and I have to kill
it.


No problem for me in 3.5.0rc1 (only I tested now).
So please give more details, as others to help finding where the problem
might be.


Any chance you could try in a stable version?

We are using 3.4.3, 3.4.4 and 3.4.5 (haven't updated all yet)...

this was also a problem in older version going all the way back to 
Openoffice days...


A simple 'paste' (or Ctrl-V) results in the problem, but 'Paste Special' 
and clicking OK (keeping the default selection of calc8) works fine...


I really don't know what other details I can give... these are all 
standard installs, on Windows XP Pro sp3 fully patched (I thought I 
already gave those details though - if not, my bad)...


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem pasting spreadsheet cells into Impress

2012-01-26 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi,
Tanstaafl wrote (13-01-12 22:17)


Whenever I try to copy some cells from a spreadsheet and paste the into
an Impress Presentation Libreoffice (and Openoffice used to do the same
thing) totally locks up goes into never-never land, and I have to kill it.


No problem for me in 3.5.0rc1 (only I tested now).
So please give more details, as others to help finding where the problem 
might be.


Thanks,


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem pasting spreadsheet cells into Impress

2012-01-26 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
No problems on WinXp Sp3 but a really doddery old machine.  LO version 3.4.3

Hmmm, doesn't look quite right as lettering is a bit larger so i guess i should 
have pasted without formatting.
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Thu, 26/1/12, Tanstaafl  wrote:

From: Tanstaafl 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem pasting spreadsheet cells into Impress
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 26 January, 2012, 16:56

On 2012-01-13 4:17 PM, Tanstaafl  wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Can anyone confirm this as a bug, or explain why it is such a problem?
>
> I have been meaning to report this since forever, but I do it so rarely
> that I just haven't...
>
> Whenever I try to copy some cells from a spreadsheet and paste the into
> an Impress Presentation Libreoffice (and Openoffice used to do the same
> thing) totally locks up goes into never-never land, and I have to kill it.
>
> The only way to paste from a spreadsheet into a Presentation that I have
> found is to do Paste Special, then take the Default 'calc8' format, and
> that pastes perfectly.
>
> What is up with this? Why doesn't it just 'Paste' as calc8 format??

Anyone??

This is just a normal, standard installation, nothing has been tweaked, 
and it does this on every PC in our office, and has for a long time.

Something is not right...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem pasting spreadsheet cells into Impress

2012-01-26 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2012-01-13 4:17 PM, Tanstaafl  wrote:

Hi everyone,

Can anyone confirm this as a bug, or explain why it is such a problem?

I have been meaning to report this since forever, but I do it so rarely
that I just haven't...

Whenever I try to copy some cells from a spreadsheet and paste the into
an Impress Presentation Libreoffice (and Openoffice used to do the same
thing) totally locks up goes into never-never land, and I have to kill it.

The only way to paste from a spreadsheet into a Presentation that I have
found is to do Paste Special, then take the Default 'calc8' format, and
that pastes perfectly.

What is up with this? Why doesn't it just 'Paste' as calc8 format??


Anyone??

This is just a normal, standard installation, nothing has been tweaked, 
and it does this on every PC in our office, and has for a long time.


Something is not right...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem pasting spreadsheet cells into Impress

2012-01-15 Thread TomW

On 2012-01-15 10:24, Tanstaafl wrote:

On 2012-01-13 5:17 PM, TomW  wrote:

Both 3.4.4 and 3.5.0beta3, on Vista, will paste a table of the selected
Calc cells without using Paste Special.


Well, since I wouldn't touch Vista with a ten foot pole, I don't care 
if it works with Vista...


As I said, it does the exact same thing in Windows 7... can you 
confirm the problem with XP or 7?




Just installed 3.4.4 on an XP VM.  I can still paste a a range of cells 
into a presentation creating a table of values.


TomW

P.S.
Understand the Vista issue in may ways. I could comfortable run two VM's 
on XP along with Firefox and Thunderbird.  Vista can't handle it.  Two 
VM's barely are usable.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem pasting spreadsheet cells into Impress

2012-01-15 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2012-01-13 5:17 PM, TomW  wrote:

Both 3.4.4 and 3.5.0beta3, on Vista, will paste a table of the selected
Calc cells without using Paste Special.


Well, since I wouldn't touch Vista with a ten foot pole, I don't care if 
it works with Vista...


As I said, it does the exact same thing in Windows 7... can you confirm 
the problem with XP or 7?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem pasting spreadsheet cells into Impress

2012-01-13 Thread TomW

On 2012-01-13 16:49, Tanstaafl wrote:

On 2012-01-13 4:37 PM, Tom Davies  wrote:

Hi:)
Weird.  It was fine for me.  Ubuntu 10.04 (or 10.10)


Sorry, I neglected to provide system details...

This is on Windows XP Pro, and I just confirmed it does the exact same 
thing on a brand new install of 3.4.4 on Windows 7 64 bit...




Both 3.4.4 and 3.5.0beta3, on Vista, will paste a table of the selected 
Calc cells without using Paste Special.


TomW


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem pasting spreadsheet cells into Impress

2012-01-13 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2012-01-13 4:37 PM, Tom Davies  wrote:

Hi:)
Weird.  It was fine for me.  Ubuntu 10.04 (or 10.10)


Sorry, I neglected to provide system details...

This is on Windows XP Pro, and I just confirmed it does the exact same 
thing on a brand new install of 3.4.4 on Windows 7 64 bit...


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem pasting spreadsheet cells into Impress

2012-01-13 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Weird.  It was fine for me.  Ubuntu 10.04 (or 10.10) and LibreOffice 3.3.2 
(still, i guess i really should upgrade sometime).  I do have the memory 
options all set far higher than defaults.  Only 2Gb ram tho.  
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Fri, 13/1/12, Tanstaafl  wrote:

From: Tanstaafl 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Problem pasting spreadsheet cells into Impress
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 13 January, 2012, 21:17

Hi everyone,

Can anyone confirm this as a bug, or explain why it is such a problem?

I have been meaning to report this since forever, but I do it so rarely that I 
just haven't...

Whenever I try to copy some cells from a spreadsheet and paste the into an 
Impress Presentation Libreoffice (and Openoffice used to do the same thing) 
totally locks up goes into never-never land, and I have to kill it.

The only way to paste from a spreadsheet into a Presentation that I have found 
is to do Paste Special, then take the Default 'calc8' format, and that pastes 
perfectly.

What is up with this? Why doesn't it just 'Paste' as calc8 format??

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[libreoffice-users] Problem pasting spreadsheet cells into Impress

2012-01-13 Thread Tanstaafl

Hi everyone,

Can anyone confirm this as a bug, or explain why it is such a problem?

I have been meaning to report this since forever, but I do it so rarely 
that I just haven't...


Whenever I try to copy some cells from a spreadsheet and paste the into 
an Impress Presentation Libreoffice (and Openoffice used to do the same 
thing) totally locks up goes into never-never land, and I have to kill it.


The only way to paste from a spreadsheet into a Presentation that I have 
found is to do Paste Special, then take the Default 'calc8' format, and 
that pastes perfectly.


What is up with this? Why doesn't it just 'Paste' as calc8 format??

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