Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 2 versions of LO on Mac OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite
On Jan 24, 2015, at 9:34 PM, V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu wrote: Spencer, * Just so you understand, installed that way--i.e. with each version of LibreOffice using the default UserInstallation= variable of $SYSUSERCONFIG--all the installations will be sharing a single user profile. It will be located in /Users/username/Library/Application Support/LibreOffice/4 configurations and features will bleed over between the installs. If you want to isolate each of the installations (which is the norm for working with multiple installs) rather than using the $SYSUSERCONFIG variable, instead using the $ORIGIN variable places the user profile relative to its supported application package. The install and user profile are combined, and isolated from the other installs. Important if you are testing features and different configurations or extensions. Stuart Thanks for the clarification. I guessed there might be a problem like that. Unfortunately, I still do not understand how to produce the isolation you recommend. Spencer -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Installing-2-versions-of-LO-on-Mac-OS-X-10-10-1-Yosemite-tp4136563p4137352.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 2 versions of LO on Mac OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite
Spencer, * Just so you understand, installed that way--i.e. with each version of LibreOffice using the default UserInstallation= variable of $SYSUSERCONFIG--all the installations will be sharing a single user profile. It will be located in /Users/username/Library/Application Support/LibreOffice/4 configurations and features will bleed over between the installs. If you want to isolate each of the installations (which is the norm for working with multiple installs) rather than using the $SYSUSERCONFIG variable, instead using the $ORIGIN variable places the user profile relative to its supported application package. The install and user profile are combined, and isolated from the other installs. Important if you are testing features and different configurations or extensions. Stuart -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Installing-2-versions-of-LO-on-Mac-OS-X-10-10-1-Yosemite-tp4136563p4137352.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 2 versions of LO on Mac OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite
On 01/21/2015 06:15 PM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 21/01/2015 16:54, Stephan Bergmann a écrit : Are you really sure that it ever worked that if you rename LibreOffice.app to Foo.app it will then locate its user profile under ~/Library/Application Data/Foo/ instead of ~/Library/Application Data/LibreOffice/? That would surprise me. No, you had to rename the user profile /Library/Application Support/Foo accordingly before restarting LO - this was the advice we were giving out to users on our wiki. We are talking past each other here. What I meant is whether a LibreOffice.app renamed to Foo.app would have expected the user profile at ~/Library/Application Data/Foo/, i.e., would have picked up the data at ~/Library/Application Data/Foo/ if you had also renamed ~/Library/Application Data/LibreOffice/ to ~/Library/Application Data/Foo/ before starting the renamed Foo.app, or else would have created and used a fresh ~/Library/Application Data/Foo/ if you did not rename ~/Library/Application Data/LibreOffice/. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 2 versions of LO on Mac OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite
On 01/22/2015 11:04 AM, Stephan Bergmann wrote: On 01/21/2015 06:15 PM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 21/01/2015 16:54, Stephan Bergmann a écrit : Are you really sure that it ever worked that if you rename LibreOffice.app to Foo.app it will then locate its user profile under ~/Library/Application Data/Foo/ instead of ~/Library/Application Data/LibreOffice/? That would surprise me. No, you had to rename the user profile /Library/Application Support/Foo accordingly before restarting LO - this was the advice we were giving out to users on our wiki. We are talking past each other here. What I meant is whether a LibreOffice.app renamed to Foo.app would have expected the user profile at ~/Library/Application Data/Foo/, i.e., would have picked up the data at ~/Library/Application Data/Foo/ if you had also renamed ~/Library/Application Data/LibreOffice/ to ~/Library/Application Data/Foo/ before starting the renamed Foo.app, or else would have created and used a fresh ~/Library/Application Data/Foo/ if you did not rename ~/Library/Application Data/LibreOffice/. ...and https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel/OS_X#Old_Method indeed claims that did work long ago: Up to and including the 3.3.x series, the way to separate configurations on the Mac simply involved renaming your existing installation user configuration folder to the same name as the name of the LibreOffice application. Interesting; that completely slips my memory. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 2 versions of LO on Mac OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite
Hi :) I think you finding something easy is no real indication of whether it is really easy or actually quite complicated. You have done many amazing things and seem to have a lot of experience doing exactly this in another OS so you have a good foundation that probably most of us don't have. Actually your email seem to simplify the instructions rather well! :) I sometimes find that even just explaining something any different way around is a good way to get people unstuck. So, many thanks for that :) @ Spencer. Did that help make more sense of the instructions? If not please let us know and don't worry about questions seeming stupid to you. Clearly only a few people here understand how to do it so we are learning here too. Regards from Tom :) On 22 January 2015 at 04:05, V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu wrote: Just inherited a 2007 iMac and loaded Yosemite (OS X 10.10.1) First thing I loaded LO 4.4.0.2, and then 4.3.6.2 and the current (2015-01-21) 4.5.0 master. Steps couldn't be simpler. In fact parallel install is done almost the same as with the Windows .msi packages Put which ever of the installs into /Applications just like any package install. Drag and drop there once the .dmg is downloaded and mounted. Launch by double clicking the folder in /Applications. For the additional installs, they could go into /Applications as well just with different names. But they can go anywhere. For example onto user's Desktop, Documents, Downloads etc... just mount the downloaded .dmg package and drag the LibreOffice or LibreOfficeDev .app directory object to where you want it to reside. It does not need to go into /Applications. Then use Spotlight to find the bootstraprc file and edit it in TextEdit. Just as with Windows or Linux builds, edit the UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/LibreOffice/4 to be UserInstallation=$ORIGIN/../Data/settings The $ORIGIN variable is parsed internally by LibreOffice and then creates the entire user profile within the app package, in the example Data/settings but the directory names for the user profile can actually be anything you like. They are fully structured profiles and are portable. When ready to launch the build, open the .app folder with Finder and locate the soffice executable and Control Open it. You can create an app launcher for it if you don't want to dig down into the folder every time. Easy as pie... I had all three flavors running simultaneously and could do side-by-side comparisons of the UI. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Installing-2-versions-of-LO-on-Mac-OS-X-10-10-1-Yosemite-tp4136563p4136999.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 2 versions of LO on Mac OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite
On 2015-01-19, 7:57 PM Spencer Graves wrote: I’m confused. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile” tells me to look for Tools - Options - LibreOffice - Paths. I don’t see “Options” under Tools. On Macs it is LibreOffice/Preferences/LibreOffice/Paths -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 2 versions of LO on Mac OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite
Le 21/01/2015 16:54, Stephan Bergmann a écrit : Are you really sure that it ever worked that if you rename LibreOffice.app to Foo.app it will then locate its user profile under ~/Library/Application Data/Foo/ instead of ~/Library/Application Data/LibreOffice/? That would surprise me. No, you had to rename the user profile /Library/Application Support/Foo accordingly before restarting LO - this was the advice we were giving out to users on our wiki. Alex -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 2 versions of LO on Mac OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite
On 01/21/2015 10:09 AM, Alex Thurgood wrote: Le 21/01/2015 10:02, Stephan Bergmann a écrit : If you want to later use LO4352, when you start it up, it should only use the LO4352 user configuration folder (assuming you have named them the same). I don't thin you can have both running at the same time. Where did you get that idea from? The location of the user profile is Probably because that is how it used to work. Are you really sure that it ever worked that if you rename LibreOffice.app to Foo.app it will then locate its user profile under ~/Library/Application Data/Foo/ instead of ~/Library/Application Data/LibreOffice/? That would surprise me. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 2 versions of LO on Mac OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite
Just inherited a 2007 iMac and loaded Yosemite (OS X 10.10.1) First thing I loaded LO 4.4.0.2, and then 4.3.6.2 and the current (2015-01-21) 4.5.0 master. Steps couldn't be simpler. In fact parallel install is done almost the same as with the Windows .msi packages Put which ever of the installs into /Applications just like any package install. Drag and drop there once the .dmg is downloaded and mounted. Launch by double clicking the folder in /Applications. For the additional installs, they could go into /Applications as well just with different names. But they can go anywhere. For example onto user's Desktop, Documents, Downloads etc... just mount the downloaded .dmg package and drag the LibreOffice or LibreOfficeDev .app directory object to where you want it to reside. It does not need to go into /Applications. Then use Spotlight to find the bootstraprc file and edit it in TextEdit. Just as with Windows or Linux builds, edit the UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/LibreOffice/4 to be UserInstallation=$ORIGIN/../Data/settings The $ORIGIN variable is parsed internally by LibreOffice and then creates the entire user profile within the app package, in the example Data/settings but the directory names for the user profile can actually be anything you like. They are fully structured profiles and are portable. When ready to launch the build, open the .app folder with Finder and locate the soffice executable and Control Open it. You can create an app launcher for it if you don't want to dig down into the folder every time. Easy as pie... I had all three flavors running simultaneously and could do side-by-side comparisons of the UI. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Installing-2-versions-of-LO-on-Mac-OS-X-10-10-1-Yosemite-tp4136563p4136999.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 2 versions of LO on Mac OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite
On 01/19/2015 10:48 AM, Alex Thurgood wrote: If you want to later use LO4352, when you start it up, it should only use the LO4352 user configuration folder (assuming you have named them the same). I don't thin you can have both running at the same time. Where did you get that idea from? The location of the user profile is solely determined by the value of the UserInstallation= line in LibreOffice.app/Contents/Resource/bootstraprc (formerly LibreOffice.app/Contents/MacOS/boostraprc; where $SYSUSERCONFIG denotes the ~/Library/Application Support/ directory). It is completely oblivious to any renaming of the LibreOffice.app. A way to have multiple versions of LO installed independently is to hard-code different UserInstallation= values into the bootstraprcs of at least all but one installations. (These values need to be file URLs, so either keep them starting with $SYSUSERCONFIG, which expands to a file URL, or use file:///... notation.) These versions can then even be run concurrently. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 2 versions of LO on Mac OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite
Le 21/01/2015 10:02, Stephan Bergmann a écrit : Hi Stephan, If you want to later use LO4352, when you start it up, it should only use the LO4352 user configuration folder (assuming you have named them the same). I don't thin you can have both running at the same time. Where did you get that idea from? The location of the user profile is Probably because that is how it used to work. Alex -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 2 versions of LO on Mac OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite
Le 19/01/2015 02:57, Larry Gusaas a écrit : Create a sub-folder in your Applications folder and install the second version of LibreOffice in the sub-folder. If you do that, you will use the existing user configuration profile. In order to exclude user configuration profile effects, you can try the following : - download the version of LibreOffice you want to try out ; - rename your currently installed LibreOffice app bundle to something else, e.g. LO4352 ; - now change your user profile configuration folder to the same name as the just changed app bundle ; - next, install the newly downloaded version you want to install - drag and drop to /Applications or any other folder of your choice; - when you now start the LibreOffice app bundle, it will create a new fresh profile. If you want to later use LO4352, when you start it up, it should only use the LO4352 user configuration folder (assuming you have named them the same). I don't thin you can have both running at the same time. Alex -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing 2 versions of LO on Mac OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite
On 2015-01-18, 7:00 PM Spencer Graves wrote: How can I install LibreOffice 4.3.4.1 in parallel with LO 4.3.5.2 on a Mac running OS X 10.10.1 Yosemite? Create a sub-folder in your Applications folder and install the second version of LibreOffice in the sub-folder. -- _ Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs. - Edgard Varese -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
