Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Random crashes with Libre Office Writer (strace included)

2011-07-02 Thread Nuno J. Silva
On 2011-07-02, Eric wrote:

 Le 30/06/2011 01:44, planas wrote:

 A possible work around is to save the file in odt, then open and edit
 it. Then save as docx or doc. Doc files are better understood and easier
 to handle. Also, doc files can be opened by the current version of MS
 Word. Unless the files contain Word 2007/2010 specific features, this
 could work.

 Hi, that's what i did, unfortunately it doesn't prevent lowriter from 
 crashing.

 Here are 2 another strace logs :

 1- http://dl.free.fr/b6M830KIY (crash right from the beginning)
 2- http://dl.free.fr/ai9UYfNXm (random crash while i was working on the 
 document)

The one that crashed in the beggining, it looks like it was loading some
UNO stuff, the other two (the second you linked now and the other you
linked in an earlier message) crash after trying to load autocorrection
data (that does not exist):

,
| 2906  00:48:33.378073 
access(/home/rm/.libreoffice/3/user/autocorr/acor_.dat, F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No 
such file or directory)
| 2906  00:48:33.395609 
access(/home/rm/.libreoffice/3/user/autocorr/acor_.dat, F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No 
such file or directory)
| 2906  00:48:33.439753 --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) ---
`

 Is anyone here who can read them and understand what is the problem
 (which really prevents me from working with LibreOffice) ?

Maybe more experienced people (developers?) can tell what's wrong from
the straces.

But as straces just show system calls, they don't show *exactly* where
did the problem occur (or, more correctly, where did it explode).

If you can try getting a backtrace, it'll probably be useful too. The
problem is that for a complete, human-readable backtrace you need LibO
debug packages. See:

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport#How_to_get_backtrace_.28on_Linux.29

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Random crashes with Libre Office Writer (strace included)

2011-07-02 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Is it possible to find a bug-report about this issue and upload the straces to 
there?  That might help  developers to see the strace.  There are few devs on 
the Users List.
Regards from
Tom :)






From: Nuno J. Silva nunojsi...@ist.utl.pt
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sat, 2 July, 2011 11:13:02
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Random crashes with Libre Office Writer 
(strace included)

On 2011-07-02, Eric wrote:

 Le 30/06/2011 01:44, planas wrote:

 A possible work around is to save the file in odt, then open and edit
 it. Then save as docx or doc. Doc files are better understood and easier
 to handle. Also, doc files can be opened by the current version of MS
 Word. Unless the files contain Word 2007/2010 specific features, this
 could work.

 Hi, that's what i did, unfortunately it doesn't prevent lowriter from 
crashing.

 Here are 2 another strace logs :

 1- http://dl.free.fr/b6M830KIY (crash right from the beginning)
 2- http://dl.free.fr/ai9UYfNXm (random crash while i was working on the 
document)

The one that crashed in the beggining, it looks like it was loading some
UNO stuff, the other two (the second you linked now and the other you
linked in an earlier message) crash after trying to load autocorrection
data (that does not exist):

,
| 2906  00:48:33.378073 
access(/home/rm/.libreoffice/3/user/autocorr/acor_.dat, F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No 
such file or directory)
| 2906  00:48:33.395609 
access(/home/rm/.libreoffice/3/user/autocorr/acor_.dat, F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No 
such file or directory)
| 2906  00:48:33.439753 --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) ---
`

 Is anyone here who can read them and understand what is the problem
 (which really prevents me from working with LibreOffice) ?

Maybe more experienced people (developers?) can tell what's wrong from
the straces.

But as straces just show system calls, they don't show *exactly* where
did the problem occur (or, more correctly, where did it explode).

If you can try getting a backtrace, it'll probably be useful too. The
problem is that for a complete, human-readable backtrace you need LibO
debug packages. See:

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport#How_to_get_backtrace_.28on_Linux.29

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Random crashes with Libre Office Writer (strace included)

2011-07-02 Thread Eric
Hi Nuno,Le 02/07/2011 12:13, Nuno J. Silva a écrit :On 2011-07-02, Eric 
wrote:Le 30/06/2011 01:44, planas wrote:A possible work around is to save the 
file in odt, then open and edit
it. Then save as docx or doc. Doc files are better understood and easier
to handle. Also, doc files can be opened by the current version of MS
Word. Unless the files contain Word 2007/2010 specific features, this
could work.Hi, that's what i did, unfortunately it doesn't prevent lowriter 
from crashing.


Here are 2 another strace logs :


1-http://dl.free.fr/b6M830KIY(crash right from the beginning)
2-http://dl.free.fr/ai9UYfNXm(random crash while i was working on the 
document)The one that crashed in the beggining, it looks like it was loading 
some
UNO stuff, the other two (the second you linked now and the other you
linked in an earlier message) crash after trying to load autocorrection
data (that does not exist):


,
| 2906  00:48:33.378073 
access(/home/rm/.libreoffice/3/user/autocorr/acor_.dat, F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No 
such file or directory)
| 2906  00:48:33.395609 
access(/home/rm/.libreoffice/3/user/autocorr/acor_.dat, F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No 
such file or directory)
| 2906  00:48:33.439753 --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) ---
`Is anyone here who can read them and understand what is the problem
(which really prevents me from working with LibreOffice) ?Maybe more 
experienced people (developers?) can tell what's wrong from
the straces.How to get their attention? :)But as straces just show system 
calls, they don't show *exactly* where
did the problem occur (or, more correctly, where did it explode).


If you can try getting a backtrace, it'll probably be useful too. The
problem is that for a complete, human-readable backtrace you need LibO
debug packages. 
See:http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport#How_to_get_backtrace_.28on_Linux.29I'm
 ok to make a backtrace, but where can I find the
libreoffice*-debuginfo packages (I'm on Ubuntu 11.04)?Regards,Eric
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Random crashes with Libre Office Writer (strace included)

2011-07-02 Thread NoOp
On 07/02/2011 06:30 AM, Eric wrote:
...
 If you can try getting a backtrace, it'll probably be useful too.
 The problem is that for a complete, human-readable backtrace you need
 LibO debug packages.
 See:http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport#How_to_get_backtrace_.28on_Linux.29I'm
 ok to make a backtrace, but where can I find the 
 libreoffice*-debuginfo packages (I'm on Ubuntu 11.04)?Regards,Eric

$ sudo apt-get install libreoffice-dbg

You might also want to add the uno symbols as well:

$ sudo apt-get install ure-dbg
$ sudo apt-get install uno-libs3-dbg



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Random crashes with Libre Office Writer (strace included)

2011-07-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)

Have you tried deleting the user-profile?  Do you have both LO and OOo 
installed 
at the same time?  If so is the Quick Start on in either package?  If you have 
OOo open at the same time as LO then they can get a bit confused.  There is a 
guide to help you have both installed so that they don't clash.  I have lost 
track, are you using Windows or Ubuntu or which OS?
Regards from
Tom :)





From: Ernest Kurtz kurtz...@umich.edu
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 29 June, 2011 18:03:45
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Random crashes with Libre Office Writer 
(strace included)

Back again with an LO crash: 
Opened LO for first time in three days;
Opened 3 .rtf files I had worked on in OO yesterday;
When I hit Enter to open a line-space in one of the files, LO crashed;
Even Force Quit could not close it, but it finally died after about 10 
minutes 
jiggling.
Does anyone think I should try to use LO again, after this yet again repetitive 
near-disaster?
ernie kurtz



On Jun 29, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Eric wrote:

 By the way, what's the command to open this document in command line, to see 
 if 
I can catch some errors when it crashes?
 
 
 Le 28/06/2011 23:53, Eric wrote:
 Hi Nuno,
 
 No it's not the only file which causes a crash,
 and as I can't see my attached strace, i've posted it here: 
http://dl.free.fr/o9kL0sy6V
 I hope it will help you, its reading is not obvious at all for me :)
 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Random crashes with Libre Office Writer (strace included)

2011-07-01 Thread Eric



Le 30/06/2011 01:44, planas wrote:

On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 14:59 -0700, Eric wrote:


Hi Jay,

I unfortunately must keep this document as a docx file, because it's a
working document that I need to check and modify, before sending it back to
his owner (who obviously uses MS Word).

--


A possible work around is to save the file in odt, then open and edit
it. Then save as docx or doc. Doc files are better understood and easier
to handle. Also, doc files can be opened by the current version of MS
Word. Unless the files contain Word 2007/2010 specific features, this
could work.


Hi, that's what i did, unfortunately it doesn't prevent lowriter from crashing.

Here are 2 another strace logs :

1- http://dl.free.fr/b6M830KIY (crash right from the beginning)
2- http://dl.free.fr/ai9UYfNXm (random crash while i was working on the 
document)

Is anyone here who can read them and understand what is the problem (which really prevents me from working with 
LibreOffice) ?


Regards,

Eric

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Random crashes with Libre Office Writer (strace included)

2011-07-01 Thread NoOp
On 07/01/2011 04:09 PM, Eric wrote:
 
 
 Le 30/06/2011 01:44, planas wrote:
 On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 14:59 -0700, Eric wrote:
 
 Hi Jay,
 
 I unfortunately must keep this document as a docx file, because
 it's a working document that I need to check and modify, before
 sending it back to his owner (who obviously uses MS Word).
 
 --
 
 A possible work around is to save the file in odt, then open and
 edit it. Then save as docx or doc. Doc files are better understood
 and easier to handle. Also, doc files can be opened by the current
 version of MS Word. Unless the files contain Word 2007/2010
 specific features, this could work.
 
 Hi, that's what i did, unfortunately it doesn't prevent lowriter from
 crashing.
 
 Here are 2 another strace logs :
 
 1- http://dl.free.fr/b6M830KIY (crash right from the beginning) 2-
 http://dl.free.fr/ai9UYfNXm (random crash while i was working on the
 document)
 
 Is anyone here who can read them and understand what is the problem
 (which really prevents me from working with LibreOffice) ?


They are segmentation faults. I'd recommend trying 3.4.1 and see if that
solves your problem:
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/
You can leave your existing Ubuntu LO in place.

Just download the .deb (including the help .deb). In nautilus, right
click on the .tz and select 'Extract here'. Then go to:
LibO_3.4.1rc3_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US/DEBS in a terminal and:

$ sudo dpkg -i *.deb

Do the same for the help files:
LibO_3.4.1rc3_Linux_x86_helppack-deb_en-US/DEBS

After you've installed (again in the terminal):

$ cd /opt/libreoffice3.4/program
$ gksu gedit bootstraprc

Modify the following line:

UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.libreoffice/3
to
UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.libreoffice/3.4

Save the file  exit gedit. This will have LO 3.4 use the
~/.libreoffice/3.4 for your user profile and will not interfere with
your existing Ubuntu LO 3.3 at .libreoffice/3.

Again in the terminal:
$ /opt/libreoffice3.4/program/soffice

That will bring up 3.4.1  you can try your .docx that crashes
immediately. Let us know how that goes. If if works, then you can create
an Applications|Office menu for 3.4.




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[libreoffice-users] Re: Random crashes with Libre Office Writer (strace included)

2011-07-01 Thread NoOp
On 07/01/2011 05:04 PM, NoOp wrote:
...
*Correction:*
Modify the following line:

UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.libreoffice/3
to
UserInstallation=$SYSUSERCONFIG/.libreoffice3.4/3

Save the file  exit gedit. This will have LO 3.4 use the
~/.libreoffice3.4/3 for your user profile and will not interfere with
your existing Ubuntu LO 3.3 at .libreoffice/3.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Random crashes with Libre Office Writer (strace included)

2011-06-29 Thread Eric
Hi Jay,

I unfortunately must keep this document as a docx file, because it's a
working document that I need to check and modify, before sending it back to
his owner (who obviously uses MS Word).

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Random crashes with Libre Office Writer (strace included)

2011-06-29 Thread Eric

By the way, what's the command to open this document in command line, to see if 
I can catch some errors when it crashes?


Le 28/06/2011 23:53, Eric wrote:

Hi Nuno,

No it's not the only file which causes a crash,
and as I can't see my attached strace, i've posted it here: 
http://dl.free.fr/o9kL0sy6V
I hope it will help you, its reading is not obvious at all for me :)





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Random crashes with Libre Office Writer (strace included)

2011-06-29 Thread Sigrid Carrera
Hi Eric, 

On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:54:04 +0200
Eric xbo...@gmail.com wrote:

 By the way, what's the command to open this document in command line, to see 
 if I can catch some errors when it crashes?

You start writer from the commandline with swriter. If you want you can enter 
the filename after it, but it should not be necessary. Similar commands exist 
for all the other parts, like scalc, simpress and so on. 

Did you open a bug report? 
See http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport for more information how to do 
it and the link to bugzilla. 

Btw, this list does not allow any attachments and removes those automatically. 
So posting your strace somewhere else was a good idea. 

Oh, since you have this problem with an ubuntu-package, did you check with the 
ubuntu mailinglist, bugzilla etc? 


Sigrid


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Random crashes with Libre Office Writer (strace included)

2011-06-29 Thread Ernest Kurtz
Back again with an LO crash: 
Opened LO for first time in three days;
Opened 3 .rtf files I had worked on in OO yesterday;
When I hit Enter to open a line-space in one of the files, LO crashed;
Even Force Quit could not close it, but it finally died after about 10 
minutes jiggling.
Does anyone think I should try to use LO again, after this yet again repetitive 
near-disaster?
ernie kurtz



On Jun 29, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Eric wrote:

 By the way, what's the command to open this document in command line, to see 
 if I can catch some errors when it crashes?
 
 
 Le 28/06/2011 23:53, Eric wrote:
 Hi Nuno,
 
 No it's not the only file which causes a crash,
 and as I can't see my attached strace, i've posted it here: 
 http://dl.free.fr/o9kL0sy6V
 I hope it will help you, its reading is not obvious at all for me :)
 
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Random crashes with Libre Office Writer (strace included)

2011-06-29 Thread planas
Eric

On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 14:59 -0700, Eric wrote:

 Hi Jay,
 
 I unfortunately must keep this document as a docx file, because it's a
 working document that I need to check and modify, before sending it back to
 his owner (who obviously uses MS Word).
 
 --
 View this message in context: 
 http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Random-crashes-with-Libre-Office-Writer-strace-included-tp3119368p3119634.html
 Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
 

A possible work around is to save the file in odt, then open and edit
it. Then save as docx or doc. Doc files are better understood and easier
to handle. Also, doc files can be opened by the current version of MS
Word. Unless the files contain Word 2007/2010 specific features, this
could work.

-- 
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jsloz...@gmail.com

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Random crashes with Libre Office Writer (strace included)

2011-06-28 Thread Eric
Hi Nuno,

No it's not the only file which causes a crash,
and as I can't see my attached strace, i've posted it here:
http://dl.free.fr/o9kL0sy6V
I hope it will help you, its reading is not obvious at all for me :)

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