Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer "record changes" feature

2014-02-14 Thread Alan B
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Brian Barker wrote:

>
> The option that is indeed present in (recent versions of?) Microsoft Word
> but missing in LibreOffice is the display of the original, unedited version
> of the document.  But you kept a separate copy of that, didn't you?
>
> Yes, I do have the original. I'm not really concerned about preserving
that though. Was just looking for an easy (for me) way to toggle among the
three document states, original, edited, edits committed, so that in the
process of making my changes I could switch back and forth among the
various versions of the document. And the "switching" would occur at the
current cursor location. That way there's no mode change like Alt+Tab ing
to the original version of the document in another window then scrolling to
the current location.

-Alan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer "record changes" feature

2014-02-14 Thread Alan B
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Jonathon  wrote:

>
>
> On February 13, 2014 5:18:58 PM PST, Alan wrote:
>
> >Is there a way to display the changed document, as if all edits are
> accepted, *without* accepting the changes?? IOW, "show changed document".
>
> Probably not the way you want to do things, but installing OOoSVN, and
> regular saves to SVN will let you go back to the document, regardless of
> changes accepted/rejected/pending.
>
>
> Never used SVN but have read about it. Actually recall an article several
years ago in which the author proposed using SVN for nearly all file
storage. For exactly the reason you're describing.

This isn't a regular need so I doubt I go to that length to get the result.

-Alan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer "record changes" feature

2014-02-13 Thread Jonathon


On February 13, 2014 5:18:58 PM PST, Alan wrote:

>Is there a way to display the changed document, as if all edits are accepted, 
>*without* accepting the changes?? IOW, "show changed document".

Probably not the way you want to do things, but installing OOoSVN, and regular 
saves to SVN will let you go back to the document, regardless of changes 
accepted/rejected/pending. 


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer "record changes" feature

2014-02-13 Thread Brian Barker

At 22:16 13/02/2014 -0500, Alan Bonly wrote:
Would like to be able to toggle state between original, edits 
displayed, and edits "accepted" versions of the document. "Accepted" 
in quotes because they wouldn't really have been committed otherwise 
the other document states would be lost.


It's odd that you are making a feature of the options that *are* available!

In the MS Word of a few years ago this was straightforward to do 
(could click icons on a tool bar) and something that I found very 
convenient. Especially going back to the original document to be 
sure my edits hadn't changed the meaning.


The option that is indeed present in (recent versions of?) Microsoft 
Word but missing in LibreOffice is the display of the original, 
unedited version of the document.  But you kept a separate copy of 
that, didn't you?


Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer "record changes" feature

2014-02-13 Thread Brian Barker

At 22:06 13/02/2014 -0500, Alan Bonly wrote:
I haven't used MS Word for a while, when I did, this was available. 
It was possible to see a document in its original form, with all 
edits displayed, or as if all edits are accepted. That function, or 
a close approximation, is what I'm hoping is available.


Once again, what the rest of us are seeing - when Edit | Changes > | 
Show is ticked or not - is exactly what you seek.  You wouldn't be 
the first person to see an imaginary advantage in Microsoft products!


Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer "record changes" feature

2014-02-13 Thread Dale Rebgetz


On 14/02/2014 2:16 pm, Alan B wrote:
Would like to be able to toggle state between original, edits 
displayed, and edits "accepted" versions of the document.
In the MS Word of a few years ago this was straightforward to do 
(could click icons on a tool bar) and something that I found very 
convenient. 
Interesting. In my latest MS Word (2000 - a bit old now) I only see the 
same options as LO.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer "record changes" feature

2014-02-13 Thread Alan B
The way it works for me is if "show changes" is de-selected (after the
> changes have been made), then what I see is what you are asking for - the
> CHANGED document, not the original.
>
> Dale.
>

...and p.s. sorry to get folks off on the wrong track. I was hurrying
through an unfamiliar document and thought I saw the original when "show
changes" wasn't enabled.

Regardless of that, seeing the three states of the document, original, with
edits, and edits "accepted" is what I'm hoping to be able to do.

-Alan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer "record changes" feature

2014-02-13 Thread Alan B
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Dale Rebgetz wrote:

>
> The way it works for me is if "show changes" is de-selected (after the
> changes have been made), then what I see is what you are asking for - the
> CHANGED document, not the original.
>
> Dale.
>
>
Made me look Dale, you're right. It is the changed document that's shown as
if edits have been accepted. That's only half of what I am looking for
though.

Would like to be able to toggle state between original, edits displayed,
and edits "accepted" versions of the document. "Accepted" in quotes because
they wouldn't really have been committed otherwise the other document
states would be lost.

In the MS Word of a few years ago this was straightforward to do (could
click icons on a tool bar) and something that I found very convenient.
Especially going back to the original document to be sure my edits hadn't
changed the meaning.

-Alan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer "record changes" feature

2014-02-13 Thread Brian Barker

At 20:18 13/02/2014 -0500, Alan Bonly wrote:
With the "record changes" feature turned on and the "show changes" 
feature enabled any changes made to a Writer document are clearly 
seen. If the "show changes" feature is disabled the original 
document is displayed.


Really?  Is this a bug or, if not, when was this changed?  Surely 
with Edit | Changes > | Show unticked, the *changed* document is displayed?


Is there a way to display the changed document, as if all edits are 
accepted, *without* accepting the changes?? IOW, "show changed 
document". If there is I haven't discovered it yet.


I think I have!

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer "record changes" feature

2014-02-13 Thread Alan B
Thanks for the thought. It's not quite as KISS as I'd like though.

I haven't used MS Word for a while, when I did, this was available. It was
possible to see a document in it's original form, with all edits displayed,
or as if all edits are accepted.

That function, or a close approximation, is what I'm hoping is available.

-Alan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer "record changes" feature

2014-02-13 Thread Dale Rebgetz

On 14/02/2014 12:18 pm, Alan B wrote:

With the "record changes" feature turned on and the "show changes" feature
enabled any changes made to a Writer document are clearly seen.

If the "show changes" feature is disabled the original document is
displayed. The changes are not lost and the document with edits can be
displayed by once again enabling the "show changes" feature.

Is there a way to display the changed document, as if all edits are
accepted, *without* accepting the changes?? IOW, "show changed document".

Alan,

The way it works for me is if "show changes" is de-selected (after the 
changes have been made), then what I see is what you are asking for - 
the CHANGED document, not the original.


Dale.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer "record changes" feature

2014-02-13 Thread anne-ology
   How about saving the changed document under a different name;
   when I'm unsure of changes, I'll save a document with a -
following the name then
  when I return to the documents I have the first, unchanged
one, and the working one with that - following it.

   In this way, you can make any number of changes by merely adding
additional -s (or choose any character);
   these will all be saved together so you can promptly see how
many, etc.

   Just another KISs solution  ;-)



From: Alan B 
Date: Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 7:18 PM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Writer "record changes" feature
To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" 


With the "record changes" feature turned on and the "show changes" feature
enabled any changes made to a Writer document are clearly seen.

If the "show changes" feature is disabled the original document is
displayed. The changes are not lost and the document with edits can be
displayed by once again enabling the "show changes" feature.

Is there a way to display the changed document, as if all edits are
accepted, *without* accepting the changes?? IOW, "show changed document".

If there is I haven't discovered it yet.

Thank you.

-Alan

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[libreoffice-users] Writer "record changes" feature

2014-02-13 Thread Alan B
With the "record changes" feature turned on and the "show changes" feature
enabled any changes made to a Writer document are clearly seen.

If the "show changes" feature is disabled the original document is
displayed. The changes are not lost and the document with edits can be
displayed by once again enabling the "show changes" feature.

Is there a way to display the changed document, as if all edits are
accepted, *without* accepting the changes?? IOW, "show changed document".

If there is I haven't discovered it yet.

Thank you.

-Alan

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