Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
Trashcan Also known as /dev/null, the round file and probably others. On 12/04/2013 10:08 AM, anne-ology wrote: Just what is a bitbucket ??? I've heard of 'biting the bullet' and 'spitting in a spittoon' ;-) From: Dave Howorth dhowo...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk Date: Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications To: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com anne-ology wrote: as for me, I've never copied any of these messages elsewhere; and have no intention of so doing. Well you're in my bitbucket now -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
If you have a sane mail-reader, all you have to do is click on Reply-to-all and it will interpret the list headers correctly to send the reply only to the list. There may even be a Reply to List button. This is how readers and lists are designed to work. So there's no pain at all in being considerate and hence no excuse not to do it. Cheers, Dave Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) +1 It's the same on the Ubuntu mailing lists though. Regards from Tom :) On 3 December 2013 21:37, Peter West li...@pbw.id.au wrote: Unfortunately, this list is set up to reply to the author, not the list. I've been caught by that on numerous lists. To eliminate the duplication, I have to Reply-all, then remove the OP from the To, and move the Cc field to the To field. I generally do that; I've just done it. Yes, it's a pain, and it's more of a pain to do the courtesy than to delete the duplicate that comes in. If you don't like the policy, ask the list manager whether it can be changed. I have never been able to comprehend why a mailing list would default that way. Replying to the OP only is the outlier, not the norm. Peter West We have only five loaves here, and two fish. On 4 Dec 2013, at 2:06 am, Dave Howorth dhowo...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk wrote: anne-ology wrote: not true. That'll be why there's a support article about the problem then, and numerous threads in forums. https://support.google.com/mail/answer/8395?hl=en PS Please don't copy me on any reply. That's just plain rude. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
On 2013-12-04 8:50 AM, Dave Howorth dhowo...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk wrote: If you have a sane mail-reader, all you have to do is click on Reply-to-all and it will interpret the list headers correctly to send the reply only to the list. There may even be a Reply to List button. No, a sane mail client will do what you tell it to do. If I click Reply All, it should Reply All. But yes, a sane client will also have a 'Reply to List' capability. I like Thunderbirds 'Smart Reply' button, but sadly it only works on the button toolbar down on the message header pane (which I keep collapsed, so never use), not on the main toolbar. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
But equally a sane mailing list would default to reply to the list. If the default is to reply to the sender, you are implicitly saying: 1. We really don't want to have discussions here; 2. If you do get an answer we can't see any reason for that to be shared with anyone else. Regards, On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2013-12-04 8:50 AM, Dave Howorth dhowo...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk wrote: If you have a sane mail-reader, all you have to do is click on Reply-to-all and it will interpret the list headers correctly to send the reply only to the list. There may even be a Reply to List button. No, a sane mail client will do what you tell it to do. If I click Reply All, it should Reply All. But yes, a sane client will also have a 'Reply to List' capability. I like Thunderbirds 'Smart Reply' button, but sadly it only works on the button toolbar down on the message header pane (which I keep collapsed, so never use), not on the main toolbar. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Kevin B. O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com http://google.me/+kevinobrien Facebook is Evil. Cancel your account. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
Kevin O'Brien wrote: But equally a sane mailing list would default to reply to the list. If the default is to reply to the sender, you are implicitly saying: 1. We really don't want to have discussions here; 2. If you do get an answer we can't see any reason for that to be shared with anyone else. http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-admin/node11.html -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
Um, why are you directing me to the manual? Regards, On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Dave Howorth dhowo...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk wrote: Kevin O'Brien wrote: But equally a sane mailing list would default to reply to the list. If the default is to reply to the sender, you are implicitly saying: 1. We really don't want to have discussions here; 2. If you do get an answer we can't see any reason for that to be shared with anyone else. http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-admin/node11.html -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Kevin B. O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com http://google.me/+kevinobrien Facebook is Evil. Cancel your account. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
On 2013-12-04 9:10 AM, Kevin O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com wrote: But equally a sane mailing list would default to reply to the list. If the default is to reply to the sender, you are implicitly saying: 1. We really don't want to have discussions here; 2. If you do get an answer we can't see any reason for that to be shared with anyone else. No, what I am saying is that computers (and/or computer programs) cannot (yet) be expected to be able to read minds, and so should do what they are told. But yes, they can try to guess, and that is what the 'Smart Reply' button I mentioned earlier does, and does very well. If there are list headers in the message, its default action is to Reply to List, but you can still manually Reply to Sender or Reply all. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
On Wed, 2013-12-04 at 09:10 -0500, Kevin O'Brien wrote: But equally a sane mailing list would default to reply to the list. If the default is to reply to the sender, you are implicitly saying: 1. We really don't want to have discussions here; 2. If you do get an answer we can't see any reason for that to be shared with anyone else. Really? This thread is noise; it does not relate to the use of LibreOffice. These issues have been hashed over a zillion times. If you have an issue with the list's configuration take it up with the project or the list master. -- Adam Tauno Williams mailto:awill...@whitemice.org GPG D95ED383 Systems Administrator, Python Developer, LPI / NCLA -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
On 12/04/2013 08:58 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-12-04 8:50 AM, Dave Howorth dhowo...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk wrote: If you have a sane mail-reader, all you have to do is click on Reply-to-all and it will interpret the list headers correctly to send the reply only to the list. There may even be a Reply to List button. No, a sane mail client will do what you tell it to do. If I click Reply All, it should Reply All. But yes, a sane client will also have a 'Reply to List' capability. I like Thunderbirds 'Smart Reply' button, but sadly it only works on the button toolbar down on the message header pane (which I keep collapsed, so never use), not on the main toolbar. What is the message header pane and how would you activate it if you wanted to? I've never heard of this. --doug -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
Just what is a bitbucket ??? I've heard of 'biting the bullet' and 'spitting in a spittoon' ;-) From: Dave Howorth dhowo...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk Date: Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 7:46 AM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications To: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com anne-ology wrote: as for me, I've never copied any of these messages elsewhere; and have no intention of so doing. Well you're in my bitbucket now -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
exactly; a sane list is set-up to do as Kevin states so well. and as for you, Dave Howorth, just curiously wondering if you've read Emily Post's book ;-) From: Kevin O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 8:10 AM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications To: Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org But equally a sane mailing list would default to reply to the list. If the default is to reply to the sender, you are implicitly saying: 1. We really don't want to have discussions here; 2. If you do get an answer we can't see any reason for that to be shared with anyone else. Regards, On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2013-12-04 8:50 AM, Dave Howorth dhowo...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk wrote: If you have a sane mail-reader, all you have to do is click on Reply-to-all and it will interpret the list headers correctly to send the reply only to the list. There may even be a Reply to List button. No, a sane mail client will do what you tell it to do. If I click Reply All, it should Reply All. But yes, a sane client will also have a 'Reply to List' capability. I like Thunderbirds 'Smart Reply' button, but sadly it only works on the button toolbar down on the message header pane (which I keep collapsed, so never use), not on the main toolbar. -- Kevin B. O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com http://google.me/+kevinobrien Facebook is Evil. Cancel your account. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
a very good question indeed :-) From: Kevin O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications To: Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Um, why are you directing me to the manual? Regards, On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Dave Howorth dhowo...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk wrote: Kevin O'Brien wrote: But equally a sane mailing list would default to reply to the list. If the default is to reply to the sender, you are implicitly saying: 1. We really don't want to have discussions here; 2. If you do get an answer we can't see any reason for that to be shared with anyone else. http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-admin/node11.html -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
It's not a matter of sanity, it's a policy choice. Some lists set replies to the whole list; others set replies to the OP. Each approach has its own pros and cons. It depends on the (bulk of the) members' vision for the list: Active discussion or Craigslist/classifieds page? Neither one is right or wrong. Cheers, Jeff Deutsch Speaker Life Coach A SPLINT - ASPies LInking with NTs http://www.asplint.com Listen to the universe while it whispers before it has to shout. Marion Grobb Finkelstein, Communication Catalyst -- http://www.MarionSpeaks.com On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 1:16 PM, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote: exactly; a sane list is set-up to do as Kevin states so well. and as for you, Dave Howorth, just curiously wondering if you've read Emily Post's book ;-) From: Kevin O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 8:10 AM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications To: Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org But equally a sane mailing list would default to reply to the list. If the default is to reply to the sender, you are implicitly saying: 1. We really don't want to have discussions here; 2. If you do get an answer we can't see any reason for that to be shared with anyone else. Regards, On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 2013-12-04 8:50 AM, Dave Howorth dhowo...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk wrote: If you have a sane mail-reader, all you have to do is click on Reply-to-all and it will interpret the list headers correctly to send the reply only to the list. There may even be a Reply to List button. No, a sane mail client will do what you tell it to do. If I click Reply All, it should Reply All. But yes, a sane client will also have a 'Reply to List' capability. I like Thunderbirds 'Smart Reply' button, but sadly it only works on the button toolbar down on the message header pane (which I keep collapsed, so never use), not on the main toolbar. -- Kevin B. O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com http://google.me/+kevinobrien Facebook is Evil. Cancel your account. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
On 12/04/2013 03:31 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-12-04 12:05 PM, Doug McGarrett dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 12/04/2013 08:58 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: I like Thunderbirds 'Smart Reply' button, but sadly it only works on the button toolbar down on the message header pane (which I keep collapsed, so never use), not on the main toolbar. What is the message header pane and how would you activate it if you wanted to? I've never heard of this. It is at the top of each message, contains all of the headers (Subject, To/From, Date/time, etc)... Not on my Thunderbird. I have the date and time, no subject, and no smart reply button. What you see below is copied and pasted in. (Without the boilerplate at the bottom.) On 2013-12-04 12:05 PM, Doug McGarrett dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 12/04/2013 08:58 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: I like Thunderbirds 'Smart Reply' button, but sadly it only works on the button toolbar down on the message header pane (which I keep collapsed, so never use), not on the main toolbar. What is the message header pane and how would you activate it if you wanted to? I've never heard of this. It is at the top of each message, contains all of the headers (Subject, To/From, Date/time, etc)... * Now in the gray area, above the actual message, I have the From, the Subject, and the To, filled in, and way over at the right I have radio boxes with Reply, Reply List, (checkmark) Forward, Archive, Junk and Delete. Under Delete is a time, which is wrong, and under that is Other Actions (checkmark). Under Other Actions is a pull-down menu, but it doesn't have a Smart Button. My Thunderbird is 17.0.2, running at the moment on Linux Mint 14, but I've never seen any Smart Button on any version. --doug -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
On the Windows version of Thunderbird your radio boxes are actually command buttons (or whatever the proper term is -- I've never been a visual developer). The Reply List is being called a smart button because it changes between Reply List and Reply All according to the message headers. I've found very few cases anymore where it says Reply All in connection with list mail, although I'm sure it still happens for some lists. Dave On 12/4/2013 13:32, Doug McGarrett wrote: Now in the gray area, above the actual message, I have the From, the Subject, and the To, filled in, and way over at the right I have radio boxes with Reply, Reply List, (checkmark) Forward, Archive, Junk and Delete. Under Delete is a time, which is wrong, and under that is Other Actions (checkmark). Under Other Actions is a pull-down menu, but it doesn't have a Smart Button. My Thunderbird is 17.0.2, running at the moment on Linux Mint 14, but I've never seen any Smart Button on any version. --doug -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
Have you read to the bottom of these e-mails ... the links are always there ;-) In order to receive these e-mails, you must have 'subscribed' at some point; therefore it's not spam ;-) From: Cormac Terry cormac...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:21 PM Subject: [libreoffice-users] email notifications To: users@global.libreoffice.org How do I opt-out of getting [users@global.libreoffice.org] user emails? I don't see any options in any of the emails I'm getting. Doesn't this make it spam mail? or in violation of the can-spam laws? sincerely, Cormac Terry -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
Hi :) I think extremely few people ever bother to read the signatures at the bottom of emails. Usually it's just some disclaimer that looks like a load of waffly nonsense. That ours are quite useful is so rare that people don't bother. Regards from Tom :) On 3 December 2013 14:54, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote: Have you read to the bottom of these e-mails ... the links are always there ;-) In order to receive these e-mails, you must have 'subscribed' at some point; therefore it's not spam ;-) From: Cormac Terry cormac...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:21 PM Subject: [libreoffice-users] email notifications To: users@global.libreoffice.org How do I opt-out of getting [users@global.libreoffice.org] user emails? I don't see any options in any of the emails I'm getting. Doesn't this make it spam mail? or in violation of the can-spam laws? sincerely, Cormac Terry -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
anne-ology wrote: Have you read to the bottom of these e-mails ... the links are always there ;-) Not if you're using a brain-dead mail reader like gmail they aren't. It hides the signature lines: To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted Of course, using a brain-dead mail app perhaps should be a capital offence ... In order to receive these e-mails, you must have 'subscribed' at some point; therefore it's not spam ;-) From: Cormac Terry cormac...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:21 PM Subject: [libreoffice-users] email notifications To: users@global.libreoffice.org How do I opt-out of getting [users@global.libreoffice.org] user emails? I don't see any options in any of the emails I'm getting. Doesn't this make it spam mail? or in violation of the can-spam laws? sincerely, Cormac Terry -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
And that explains why some e-mails come through with numerous endings ;-) I think I may be the only one who actually deletes these before sending a reply ... me - an editor ... well, I guess that too is from the horse 'n buggy era, huh ;-) From: Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications To: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com Cc: Cormac Terry cormac...@gmail.com, users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Hi :) I think extremely few people ever bother to read the signatures at the bottom of emails. Usually it's just some disclaimer that looks like a load of waffly nonsense. That ours are quite useful is so rare that people don't bother. Regards from Tom :) On 3 December 2013 14:54, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote: Have you read to the bottom of these e-mails ... the links are always there ;-) In order to receive these e-mails, you must have 'subscribed' at some point; therefore it's not spam ;-) From: Cormac Terry cormac...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:21 PM Subject: [libreoffice-users] email notifications To: users@global.libreoffice.org How do I opt-out of getting [users@global.libreoffice.org] user emails? I don't see any options in any of the emails I'm getting. Doesn't this make it spam mail? or in violation of the can-spam laws? sincerely, Cormac Terry -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
not true. From: Dave Howorth dhowo...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk Date: Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications To: users@global.libreoffice.org anne-ology wrote: Have you read to the bottom of these e-mails ... the links are always there ;-) Not if you're using a brain-dead mail reader like gmail they aren't. It hides the signature lines: To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted Of course, using a brain-dead mail app perhaps should be a capital offence ... In order to receive these e-mails, you must have 'subscribed' at some point; therefore it's not spam ;-) From: Cormac Terry cormac...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:21 PM Subject: [libreoffice-users] email notifications To: users@global.libreoffice.org How do I opt-out of getting [users@global.libreoffice.org] user emails? I don't see any options in any of the emails I'm getting. Doesn't this make it spam mail? or in violation of the can-spam laws? sincerely, Cormac Terry -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
Since I've been using gmail since I got 'fed up' with the ISP's philosophy - (our only option here; I'll be dropping it as soon as there's an alternative) - I have not noticed anything hidden ... well, each e-mail does need to be opened, but isn't that true of any e-mail program ??? ;-) ;-) ;-) To what are you apologizing; I have not seen anything but good advice/thoughts sent by you. From: Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications To: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Hi :) Yep. Probably. I think the brain-dead email client idea might have a lot to do with that too although GMail doesn't entirely hide the sig like that. Maybe it used to. I didn't mean to have a go at you earlier btw. It's just that it can be really annoying to answer a question that already has the answer built in. So it can help to spot why the fat-finger problem occurs so often and that we are already doing all we can to avoid it. Apols and regards from Tom :) On 3 December 2013 15:31, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote: And that explains why some e-mails come through with numerous endings ;-) I think I may be the only one who actually deletes these before sending a reply ... me - an editor ... well, I guess that too is from the horse 'n buggy era, huh ;-) From: Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications To: anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com Cc: Cormac Terry cormac...@gmail.com, users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Hi :) I think extremely few people ever bother to read the signatures at the bottom of emails. Usually it's just some disclaimer that looks like a load of waffly nonsense. That ours are quite useful is so rare that people don't bother. Regards from Tom :) On 3 December 2013 14:54, anne-ology lagin...@gmail.com wrote: Have you read to the bottom of these e-mails ... the links are always there ;-) In order to receive these e-mails, you must have 'subscribed' at some point; therefore it's not spam ;-) From: Cormac Terry cormac...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:21 PM Subject: [libreoffice-users] email notifications To: users@global.libreoffice.org How do I opt-out of getting [users@global.libreoffice.org] user emails? I don't see any options in any of the emails I'm getting. Doesn't this make it spam mail? or in violation of the can-spam laws? sincerely, Cormac Terry -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
anne-ology wrote: not true. That'll be why there's a support article about the problem then, and numerous threads in forums. https://support.google.com/mail/answer/8395?hl=en PS Please don't copy me on any reply. That's just plain rude. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
That article merely states to click on those 3 dots for the complete message ;-) nothing is really hidden, it's merely someone's inane idea to limit space, or something ??? If anyone has been using gmail, they would know that, although this e-mail program has been changing recently, it still operates about the same as it always did. BTW - good researchers use primary sources not secondary (as articles) or third, ... , sources ;-) since not using primary sources, errors will occur ... ... ... (anyone care to see some of these I've collected for amusement?) BTW 2 - To whom are you referring with the 'copy'ing bit; as for me, I've never copied any of these messages elsewhere; and have no intention of so doing. From: Dave Howorth dhowo...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk Date: Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications To: Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org anne-ology wrote: not true. That'll be why there's a support article about the problem then, and numerous threads in forums. https://support.google.com/mail/answer/8395?hl=en PS Please don't copy me on any reply. That's just plain rude. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 11:21:49PM -0600, Cormac Terry wrote: How do I opt-out of getting [users@global.libreoffice.org] user emails? I don't see any options in any of the emails I'm getting. Doesn't this make it spam mail? or in violation of the can-spam laws? It simply means that you fail to read the footers on the messages you receive. Observe: To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted Someone, probably you, subscribed you to this mail list. -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped NSA agents who fail to see humor in Doctor Strangelove Key ID 8D549279 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
Unfortunately, this list is set up to reply to the author, not the list. I've been caught by that on numerous lists. To eliminate the duplication, I have to Reply-all, then remove the OP from the To, and move the Cc field to the To field. I generally do that; I've just done it. Yes, it's a pain, and it's more of a pain to do the courtesy than to delete the duplicate that comes in. If you don't like the policy, ask the list manager whether it can be changed. I have never been able to comprehend why a mailing list would default that way. Replying to the OP only is the outlier, not the norm. Peter West We have only five loaves here, and two fish. On 4 Dec 2013, at 2:06 am, Dave Howorth dhowo...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk wrote: anne-ology wrote: not true. That'll be why there's a support article about the problem then, and numerous threads in forums. https://support.google.com/mail/answer/8395?hl=en PS Please don't copy me on any reply. That's just plain rude. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
Hi :) +1 It's the same on the Ubuntu mailing lists though. Regards from Tom :) On 3 December 2013 21:37, Peter West li...@pbw.id.au wrote: Unfortunately, this list is set up to reply to the author, not the list. I've been caught by that on numerous lists. To eliminate the duplication, I have to Reply-all, then remove the OP from the To, and move the Cc field to the To field. I generally do that; I've just done it. Yes, it's a pain, and it's more of a pain to do the courtesy than to delete the duplicate that comes in. If you don't like the policy, ask the list manager whether it can be changed. I have never been able to comprehend why a mailing list would default that way. Replying to the OP only is the outlier, not the norm. Peter West We have only five loaves here, and two fish. On 4 Dec 2013, at 2:06 am, Dave Howorth dhowo...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk wrote: anne-ology wrote: not true. That'll be why there's a support article about the problem then, and numerous threads in forums. https://support.google.com/mail/answer/8395?hl=en PS Please don't copy me on any reply. That's just plain rude. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
Depends on your mail client, too. In Thunderbird, when a message comes from a list server the reply buttons are Reply and Reply List (the latter replacing Reply All). Much easier to deal with than lists that are set up the other way (for me, anyway). Dave On 12/3/2013 13:37, Peter West wrote: Unfortunately, this list is set up to reply to the author, not the list. I've been caught by that on numerous lists. To eliminate the duplication, I have to Reply-all, then remove the OP from the To, and move the Cc field to the To field. I generally do that; I've just done it. Yes, it's a pain, and it's more of a pain to do the courtesy than to delete the duplicate that comes in. If you don't like the policy, ask the list manager whether it can be changed. I have never been able to comprehend why a mailing list would default that way. Replying to the OP only is the outlier, not the norm. Peter West We have only five loaves here, and two fish. On 4 Dec 2013, at 2:06 am, Dave Howorth dhowo...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk wrote: anne-ology wrote: not true. That'll be why there's a support article about the problem then, and numerous threads in forums. https://support.google.com/mail/answer/8395?hl=en PS Please don't copy me on any reply. That's just plain rude. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] email notifications
How do I opt-out of getting [users@global.libreoffice.org] user emails? I don't see any options in any of the emails I'm getting. Doesn't this make it spam mail? or in violation of the can-spam laws? sincerely, Cormac Terry -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] email notifications
Hi :) This link might be useful http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ If you want to read only certain threads and not others then after unsubscribing try re-subscribing using one of the more advanced options described on the page that shows how to subscribe. For example getting a weekly digest and then reading individual threads through Nabble might be a good way. See the nomail option described near the bottom of this page http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/#Notes This link for Nabble (or navigate to it from the LibreOffice website http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/nabble-mailing-list-interface/ Regards from Tom :) On 3 December 2013 05:21, Cormac Terry cormac...@gmail.com wrote: How do I opt-out of getting [users@global.libreoffice.org] user emails? I don't see any options in any of the emails I'm getting. Doesn't this make it spam mail? or in violation of the can-spam laws? sincerely, Cormac Terry -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
