Re: [libreoffice-users] Quickstarter is missing from LO3.5.5. on Debian

2012-07-12 Thread Gabriel Risterucci 
The quickstarter option was the source of many issues, and disappeared at
some point, since libreoffice now startup is way faster than before...

This discussion showed up some times ago. If I remember correctly the main
point of still looking for the quickstarter was to have a "handy" menu with
all libreoffice programs at hand, and this can be replicated with all
desktop environment.

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2012/7/12 AG 

> Hi list
>
> As the subject line says really - there is no option to activate the quick
> starter for LO3.5.5 using Debian squeeze.  I downloaded and installed the
> LO3.5.5 today (after removing the previous version, which also did not have
> a quick start option), and find again that 3.5.5 lacks this.
>
> Is this now standard with LO to not have a quick starter option or is this
> something peculiar to Debian packages or something else?
>
> Can anyone advise how I can get this option back, because it really is
> helpful.
>
> TIA
>
> AG
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Quickstarter is missing from LO3.5.5. on Debian

2012-07-12 Thread Dan 

AG wrote:

Hi list

As the subject line says really - there is no option to activate the
quick starter for LO3.5.5 using Debian squeeze.  I downloaded and
installed the LO3.5.5 today (after removing the previous version, which
also did not have a quick start option), and find again that 3.5.5 lacks
this.

Is this now standard with LO to not have a quick starter option or is
this something peculiar to Debian packages or something else?

Can anyone advise how I can get this option back, because it really is
helpful.

TIA

AG



 The quick starter seems to be missing from the Debian versions on 
the LO website. I noticed that it is not in LO 3.4.6 nor 3.5.4. 
Specifically, what do you want to do? Open a component (Writer, Calc, 
Draw, or Base)? Open the splash screen? Depending upon what you want to 
do, a script could be written, made executable, and put on the desktop. 
Clicking the script's icon would do it for you.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Quickstarter is missing from LO3.5.5. on Debian

2012-07-12 Thread AG 

On 12/07/12 16:54, Gabriel Risterucci wrote:

The quickstarter option was the source of many issues, and disappeared at
some point, since libreoffice now startup is way faster than before...

This discussion showed up some times ago. If I remember correctly the main
point of still looking for the quickstarter was to have a "handy" menu with
all libreoffice programs at hand, and this can be replicated with all
desktop environment.


Thanks for this.

Can you please elaborate - or direct me to a site that explains - the 
"handy menu" part that can be replicated with the desktop environment?


Cheers
AG

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Quickstarter is missing from LO3.5.5. on Debian

2012-07-12 Thread Regina Henschel 

Hi,

AG schrieb:

Hi list

As the subject line says really - there is no option to activate the
quick starter for LO3.5.5 using Debian squeeze.  I downloaded and
installed the LO3.5.5 today (after removing the previous version, which
also did not have a quick start option), and find again that 3.5.5 lacks
this.

Is this now standard with LO to not have a quick starter option or is
this something peculiar to Debian packages or something else?

Can anyone advise how I can get this option back, because it really is
helpful.


Is it only disabled, or is it build without Quickstarter? Do you have a 
executable file "quickstart". If yes, then I would try to run it and 
then check the option "Load LO During System Start-Up". If no, can it be 
enabled in the custom install? Do you can modify the installation (on 
Windows it is possible)? If it is build with Quickstarter, you should 
find it in the category "optional components".


Kind regards
Regina



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Quickstarter is missing from LO3.5.5. on Debian

2012-07-12 Thread AG 

On 12/07/12 17:31, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi,

AG schrieb:

Hi list

As the subject line says really - there is no option to activate the
quick starter for LO3.5.5 using Debian squeeze.  I downloaded and
installed the LO3.5.5 today (after removing the previous version, which
also did not have a quick start option), and find again that 3.5.5 lacks
this.

Is this now standard with LO to not have a quick starter option or is
this something peculiar to Debian packages or something else?

Can anyone advise how I can get this option back, because it really is
helpful.


Is it only disabled, or is it build without Quickstarter? Do you have 
a executable file "quickstart". If yes, then I would try to run it and 
then check the option "Load LO During System Start-Up". If no, can it 
be enabled in the custom install? Do you can modify the installation 
(on Windows it is possible)? If it is build with Quickstarter, you 
should find it in the category "optional components".


Kind regards
Regina




Thanks Regina

Where would I likely find such an executable file, because it is not 
showing up when I run "locate quickstart"?


Thanks
AG

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Quickstarter is missing from LO3.5.5. on Debian

2012-07-12 Thread AG 

On 12/07/12 17:18, Dan wrote:

AG wrote:

Hi list

As the subject line says really - there is no option to activate the
quick starter for LO3.5.5 using Debian squeeze.  I downloaded and
installed the LO3.5.5 today (after removing the previous version, which
also did not have a quick start option), and find again that 3.5.5 lacks
this.

Is this now standard with LO to not have a quick starter option or is
this something peculiar to Debian packages or something else?

Can anyone advise how I can get this option back, because it really is
helpful.

TIA

AG



 The quick starter seems to be missing from the Debian versions on 
the LO website. I noticed that it is not in LO 3.4.6 nor 3.5.4. 
Specifically, what do you want to do? Open a component (Writer, Calc, 
Draw, or Base)? Open the splash screen? Depending upon what you want 
to do, a script could be written, made executable, and put on the 
desktop. Clicking the script's icon would do it for you.


--Dan



Hi Dan
I would prefer to select the component (e.g. writer, calc, etc.) that I 
require at the time rather than the entire splash screen, which is 
currently what's happening, unless I use the Applications/ Office/ menu 
in Gnome where I can select each component.


Thanks
AG

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Quickstarter is missing from LO3.5.5. on Debian

2012-07-12 Thread Tom Davies 
Hi :)  
During install/repair i got the option to add Quickstarter when i chose to go 
the "Custom" route, which i did due to asking a similar question about the 
quickstarter in WIndows.  
Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Thu, 12/7/12, AG  wrote:

From: AG 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Quickstarter is missing from LO3.5.5. on Debian
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 12 July, 2012, 17:44

On 12/07/12 17:31, Regina Henschel wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> AG schrieb:
>> Hi list
>> 
>> As the subject line says really - there is no option to activate the
>> quick starter for LO3.5.5 using Debian squeeze.  I downloaded and
>> installed the LO3.5.5 today (after removing the previous version, which
>> also did not have a quick start option), and find again that 3.5.5 lacks
>> this.
>> 
>> Is this now standard with LO to not have a quick starter option or is
>> this something peculiar to Debian packages or something else?
>> 
>> Can anyone advise how I can get this option back, because it really is
>> helpful.
> 
> Is it only disabled, or is it build without Quickstarter? Do you have a 
> executable file "quickstart". If yes, then I would try to run it and then 
> check the option "Load LO During System Start-Up". If no, can it be enabled 
> in the custom install? Do you can modify the installation (on Windows it is 
> possible)? If it is build with Quickstarter, you should find it in the 
> category "optional components".
> 
> Kind regards
> Regina
> 
> 
> 
Thanks Regina

Where would I likely find such an executable file, because it is not showing up 
when I run "locate quickstart"?

Thanks
AG

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Quickstarter is missing from LO3.5.5. on Debian

2012-07-12 Thread AG 

On 12/07/12 18:10, Tom Davies wrote:
Hi :) 
During install/repair i got the option to add Quickstarter when i chose to go the "Custom" route, which i did due to asking a similar question about the quickstarter in WIndows. 
Regards from
Tom :) 



--- On Thu, 12/7/12, AG  wrote:

From: AG
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Quickstarter is missing from LO3.5.5. on Debian
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 12 July, 2012, 17:44

On 12/07/12 17:31, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi,

AG schrieb:

Hi list

As the subject line says really - there is no option to activate the
quick starter for LO3.5.5 using Debian squeeze.  I downloaded and
installed the LO3.5.5 today (after removing the previous version, which
also did not have a quick start option), and find again that 3.5.5 lacks
this.

Is this now standard with LO to not have a quick starter option or is
this something peculiar to Debian packages or something else?

Can anyone advise how I can get this option back, because it really is
helpful.

Is it only disabled, or is it build without Quickstarter? Do you have a executable file 
"quickstart". If yes, then I would try to run it and then check the option "Load LO During 
System Start-Up". If no, can it be enabled in the custom install? Do you can modify the installation (on 
Windows it is possible)? If it is build with Quickstarter, you should find it in the category "optional 
components".

Kind regards
Regina




Thanks Regina

Where would I likely find such an executable file, because it is not showing up when I 
run "locate quickstart"?

Thanks
AG

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Thanks Tom, but I'm not sure that a Windows solution would apply to 
GNU/Linux Debian, but thanks anyway.


AG

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Quickstarter is missing from LO3.5.5. on Debian

2012-07-12 Thread Jay Lozier 

On 07/12/2012 12:44 PM, AG wrote:

On 12/07/12 17:31, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi,

AG schrieb:

Hi list

As the subject line says really - there is no option to activate the
quick starter for LO3.5.5 using Debian squeeze.  I downloaded and
installed the LO3.5.5 today (after removing the previous version, which
also did not have a quick start option), and find again that 3.5.5 
lacks

this.

Is this now standard with LO to not have a quick starter option or is
this something peculiar to Debian packages or something else?

Can anyone advise how I can get this option back, because it really is
helpful.


Is it only disabled, or is it build without Quickstarter? Do you have 
a executable file "quickstart". If yes, then I would try to run it 
and then check the option "Load LO During System Start-Up". If no, 
can it be enabled in the custom install? Do you can modify the 
installation (on Windows it is possible)? If it is build with 
Quickstarter, you should find it in the category "optional components".


Kind regards
Regina




Thanks Regina

Where would I likely find such an executable file, because it is not 
showing up when I run "locate quickstart"?


Thanks
AG

Check Synaptic for an uninstalled libreoffice/lo package  that provides 
integration with the desktop. I know Ubuntu has an LO quickstarter, so 
it appears that it is not installed by Debian by default.  (I assume the 
quickstarter is part of the LO package and not an Ubuntu extension.)


I did not find a quick method to turn on the quickstarter.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Quickstarter is missing from LO3.5.5. on Debian

2012-07-12 Thread Dan 

Jay Lozier wrote:

On 07/12/2012 12:44 PM, AG wrote:

On 12/07/12 17:31, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi,

AG schrieb:

Hi list

As the subject line says really - there is no option to activate the
quick starter for LO3.5.5 using Debian squeeze.  I downloaded and
installed the LO3.5.5 today (after removing the previous version, which
also did not have a quick start option), and find again that 3.5.5
lacks
this.

Is this now standard with LO to not have a quick starter option or is
this something peculiar to Debian packages or something else?

Can anyone advise how I can get this option back, because it really is
helpful.


Is it only disabled, or is it build without Quickstarter? Do you have
a executable file "quickstart". If yes, then I would try to run it
and then check the option "Load LO During System Start-Up". If no,
can it be enabled in the custom install? Do you can modify the
installation (on Windows it is possible)? If it is build with
Quickstarter, you should find it in the category "optional components".

Kind regards
Regina




Thanks Regina

Where would I likely find such an executable file, because it is not
showing up when I run "locate quickstart"?

Thanks
AG


Check Synaptic for an uninstalled libreoffice/lo package  that provides
integration with the desktop. I know Ubuntu has an LO quickstarter, so
it appears that it is not installed by Debian by default.  (I assume the
quickstarter is part of the LO package and not an Ubuntu extension.)

I did not find a quick method to turn on the quickstarter.



 If Ubuntu has an LO quickstarter, what is the name of it? What 
version of LO are you talking about? Ubuntu places its installed folder 
in /opt/. It then creates a link in /etc/ to the /opt/libreofficeX.X 
folder. When installing LO from the LO website, the LO installed folder 
is /opt/libreofficeX.X. I have both version of LO on my hard drive. On 
the command line, I entered "locate quickstart" one time and "locate 
quick". Neither one gave me a result in the /etc/ nor /opt/ folders. 
Ubuntu does have several files named quickstart, but none of them apply 
to LO.
 These files will open LO in the corresponding component: 
swriter(Writer), scalc (Calc), sdraw (Draw), smath (Math), sbase (Base), 
simpress (Impress), soffice (the splash screen), and sadmin (printer 
administrator). In the shell script below, enter the name of the file 
you want to use based upon which component you want to start.


 To create a shell script file to start a specific component of LO 
you need to create a text file with two lines:

  #!/bin/sh
  /opt/libreoffice3.5/program/"specific file"
When writing the shell script, use the associated file name in place of 
"specific file" as in the two examples below.


 Both of these scripts work on Ubuntu:
#!/bin/sh
/opt/libreoffice3.5/program/sbase

#!/bin/sh
/opt/libreoffice3.5/program/scalc

 Save the file to the desktop, and then use the command line to 
make the file executable. Do this for each component that you use.
 If you have a toolbar on your desktop where you can put these 
files, do so. I have Ubuntu, so I don't know about Debian.


--Dan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Quickstarter is missing from LO3.5.5. on Debian

2012-07-12 Thread AG 

On 12/07/12 18:27, Jay Lozier wrote:

On 07/12/2012 12:44 PM, AG wrote:

On 12/07/12 17:31, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi,

AG schrieb:

Hi list

As the subject line says really - there is no option to activate the
quick starter for LO3.5.5 using Debian squeeze.  I downloaded and
installed the LO3.5.5 today (after removing the previous version, 
which
also did not have a quick start option), and find again that 3.5.5 
lacks

this.

Is this now standard with LO to not have a quick starter option or is
this something peculiar to Debian packages or something else?

Can anyone advise how I can get this option back, because it really is
helpful.


Is it only disabled, or is it build without Quickstarter? Do you 
have a executable file "quickstart". If yes, then I would try to run 
it and then check the option "Load LO During System Start-Up". If 
no, can it be enabled in the custom install? Do you can modify the 
installation (on Windows it is possible)? If it is build with 
Quickstarter, you should find it in the category "optional components".


Kind regards
Regina




Thanks Regina

Where would I likely find such an executable file, because it is not 
showing up when I run "locate quickstart"?


Thanks
AG

Check Synaptic for an uninstalled libreoffice/lo package  that 
provides integration with the desktop. I know Ubuntu has an LO 
quickstarter, so it appears that it is not installed by Debian by 
default.  (I assume the quickstarter is part of the LO package and not 
an Ubuntu extension.)


I did not find a quick method to turn on the quickstarter.


Thanks.

I did download and install the desktop integration packages for Debian 
from the ODF site, and there's nothing in synaptic.


Perhaps the quickstart has been deprecated in the 3.4.* and 3.5.5 releases?

AG

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Quickstarter is missing from LO3.5.5. on Debian

2012-07-12 Thread Jay Lozier 

On 07/12/2012 02:23 PM, Dan wrote:

Jay Lozier wrote:

On 07/12/2012 12:44 PM, AG wrote:

On 12/07/12 17:31, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi,

AG schrieb:

Hi list

As the subject line says really - there is no option to activate the
quick starter for LO3.5.5 using Debian squeeze.  I downloaded and
installed the LO3.5.5 today (after removing the previous version, 
which

also did not have a quick start option), and find again that 3.5.5
lacks
this.

Is this now standard with LO to not have a quick starter option or is
this something peculiar to Debian packages or something else?

Can anyone advise how I can get this option back, because it 
really is

helpful.


Is it only disabled, or is it build without Quickstarter? Do you have
a executable file "quickstart". If yes, then I would try to run it
and then check the option "Load LO During System Start-Up". If no,
can it be enabled in the custom install? Do you can modify the
installation (on Windows it is possible)? If it is build with
Quickstarter, you should find it in the category "optional 
components".


Kind regards
Regina




Thanks Regina

Where would I likely find such an executable file, because it is not
showing up when I run "locate quickstart"?

Thanks
AG


Check Synaptic for an uninstalled libreoffice/lo package  that provides
integration with the desktop. I know Ubuntu has an LO quickstarter, so
it appears that it is not installed by Debian by default.  (I assume the
quickstarter is part of the LO package and not an Ubuntu extension.)

I did not find a quick method to turn on the quickstarter.



 If Ubuntu has an LO quickstarter, what is the name of it? What 
version of LO are you talking about? Ubuntu places its installed 
folder in /opt/. It then creates a link in /etc/ to the 
/opt/libreofficeX.X folder. When installing LO from the LO website, 
the LO installed folder is /opt/libreofficeX.X. I have both version of 
LO on my hard drive. On the command line, I entered "locate 
quickstart" one time and "locate quick". Neither one gave me a result 
in the /etc/ nor /opt/ folders. Ubuntu does have several files named 
quickstart, but none of them apply to LO.
 These files will open LO in the corresponding component: 
swriter(Writer), scalc (Calc), sdraw (Draw), smath (Math), sbase 
(Base), simpress (Impress), soffice (the splash screen), and sadmin 
(printer administrator). In the shell script below, enter the name of 
the file you want to use based upon which component you want to start.


 To create a shell script file to start a specific component of LO 
you need to create a text file with two lines:

  #!/bin/sh
  /opt/libreoffice3.5/program/"specific file"
When writing the shell script, use the associated file name in place 
of "specific file" as in the two examples below.


 Both of these scripts work on Ubuntu:
#!/bin/sh
/opt/libreoffice3.5/program/sbase

#!/bin/sh
/opt/libreoffice3.5/program/scalc

 Save the file to the desktop, and then use the command line to 
make the file executable. Do this for each component that you use.
 If you have a toolbar on your desktop where you can put these 
files, do so. I have Ubuntu, so I don't know about Debian.


--Dan


Dan

LO 3.5.5.2 Ubuntu/Mint 12.04 with Cinnamon desktop

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Quickstarter is missing from LO3.5.5. on Debian

2012-07-13 Thread Mirosław Zalewski 
On 12/07/2012 at 18:25, AG  wrote:

> Can you please elaborate - or direct me to a site that explains - the
> "handy menu" part that can be replicated with the desktop environment?

I have never used quickstarter (for LO or OOo), but I can imagine it's 
something like:
right-click on icon in tray
→ Open LO Writer
→ Open LO Calc
→ Open LO Impress
and so on.

So, it's a way to quickly open LO component of choice. And this indeed can be 
easily reproduced with any/most of environments.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Quickstarter is missing from LO3.5.5. on Debian

2012-07-13 Thread Tom Davies 
Hi :)
You are right.  It didn't work when i got back to an Ubuntu machine.  I made a 
right mess of uninstalling and then trying to reinstall to an unsupported 
(ancient) version of Ubuntu.  I should just update Ubuntu on that one or 
perhaps try something else like Mageia or something. 

The Windows version is quite different from the Gnu&Linux/Mac/Bsd one but 
things do often end-up working the same.  Not the repair option tho.
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Thu, 12/7/12, AG  wrote:



On 12/07/12 18:10, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :) 
> During install/repair i got the option to add Quickstarter when i chose to go 
> the "Custom" route, which i did due to asking a similar question about the 
> quickstarter in WIndows. 
> Regards from
> Tom :) 
>
>

Thanks Tom, but I'm not sure that a Windows solution would apply to 
GNU/Linux Debian, but thanks anyway.

AG


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