Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Calc] Display drop-down list in all cells in column?

2012-07-18 Thread Tom Davies
HI :)
Oh wow!!  I am more familiar with Access than Base and hadn't even considered 
that Base might be able to read data from Pdfs!  Base really is an extremely 
powerful tool, or at least has the potential, and aims to be even if it's not 
as fully functional as it aims to be.  
Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Wed, 18/7/12, Dan  wrote:

From: Dan 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Calc] Display drop-down list in 
all cells in column?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 18 July, 2012, 13:57

      And why isn't the bank statements in PDF files the "audit trail"? 
The numbers in those files can be compared with the numbers in the 
tables. The query structure will show whether the query will give the 
correct results or not. If the input numbers are correct, and the 
operations performed on those numbers are correct; it seems logical to 
assume that the output would also be correct. When in doubt, the query 
structure can also be checked by feeding it data with known 
calculations. If the query output on this data matches the known 
calculations, I would think the query can be trusted to give the correct 
result on other data as long as that data can be verified first.

--Dan

Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> One problem with using a spreadsheet or database is that it is difficult to 
> set-up an "audit trail" and even if you do then it's unlikely to be trusted 
> by anyone else that might need to see your accounts.  That is the advantage 
> with using proper software developed for the purpose or for using pen&ink (ie 
> so you can't rub-out entries without it being noticeable) to keep proper 
> records.
>
> If you don't have an accountant or auditor or present the accounts to anyone 
> else then of course a database might be a LOT better than a spreadsheet, if 
> you are at all familiar with database programs.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
> --- On Wed, 18/7/12, Dan  wrote:
>
> From: Dan 
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Calc] Display drop-down list in 
> all cells in column?
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Wednesday, 18 July, 2012, 12:38
>
> Gilles wrote:
>>
>> Johnny Rosenberg wrote
>>> The easiest thing is probably to select one cell, select FOOD, hit Ctrl+c,
>>> select all the other cells in which you want the word FOOD (using Ctrl or
>>> Shift), hit Ctrl+v.
>>
>> Thanks much for the tip. It's fast enough.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tom wrote
>>> How about using GnuCash?
>>
>> Thanks for the idea. I know about GnuCash, but it's a bit too feature-rich
>> just to compute how much money I spend on what, and besides my bank no
>> longer provides data in CSV but rather as PDF :-/
>
>       A database will also do what you want to do. Queries will provide you 
>with the information you need. I use such a database. One query tells me the 
>balance of all my financial accounts (9 of them). Two queries break down my 
>expenses into budget categories; one is for the present month, and the second 
>is for the previous month. This way I can compare expenses for the two month 
>by category. Both queries have a column for the budgeted amounts for each 
>category as well.
>
> --Dan
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Calc] Display drop-down list in all cells in column?

2012-07-18 Thread Dan
 And why isn't the bank statements in PDF files the "audit trail"? 
The numbers in those files can be compared with the numbers in the 
tables. The query structure will show whether the query will give the 
correct results or not. If the input numbers are correct, and the 
operations performed on those numbers are correct; it seems logical to 
assume that the output would also be correct. When in doubt, the query 
structure can also be checked by feeding it data with known 
calculations. If the query output on this data matches the known 
calculations, I would think the query can be trusted to give the correct 
result on other data as long as that data can be verified first.


--Dan

Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
One problem with using a spreadsheet or database is that it is difficult to set-up an 
"audit trail" and even if you do then it's unlikely to be trusted by anyone else 
that might need to see your accounts.  That is the advantage with using proper software 
developed for the purpose or for using pen&ink (ie so you can't rub-out entries without 
it being noticeable) to keep proper records.

If you don't have an accountant or auditor or present the accounts to anyone 
else then of course a database might be a LOT better than a spreadsheet, if you 
are at all familiar with database programs.
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Wed, 18/7/12, Dan  wrote:

From: Dan 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Calc] Display drop-down list in 
all cells in column?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 18 July, 2012, 12:38

Gilles wrote:


Johnny Rosenberg wrote

The easiest thing is probably to select one cell, select FOOD, hit Ctrl+c,
select all the other cells in which you want the word FOOD (using Ctrl or
Shift), hit Ctrl+v.


Thanks much for the tip. It's fast enough.



Tom wrote

How about using GnuCash?


Thanks for the idea. I know about GnuCash, but it's a bit too feature-rich
just to compute how much money I spend on what, and besides my bank no
longer provides data in CSV but rather as PDF :-/


  A database will also do what you want to do. Queries will provide you 
with the information you need. I use such a database. One query tells me the 
balance of all my financial accounts (9 of them). Two queries break down my 
expenses into budget categories; one is for the present month, and the second 
is for the previous month. This way I can compare expenses for the two month by 
category. Both queries have a column for the budgeted amounts for each category 
as well.

--Dan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Calc] Display drop-down list in all cells in column?

2012-07-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
One problem with using a spreadsheet or database is that it is difficult to 
set-up an "audit trail" and even if you do then it's unlikely to be trusted by 
anyone else that might need to see your accounts.  That is the advantage with 
using proper software developed for the purpose or for using pen&ink (ie so you 
can't rub-out entries without it being noticeable) to keep proper records.  

If you don't have an accountant or auditor or present the accounts to anyone 
else then of course a database might be a LOT better than a spreadsheet, if you 
are at all familiar with database programs.  
Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Wed, 18/7/12, Dan  wrote:

From: Dan 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Calc] Display drop-down list in 
all cells in column?
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Wednesday, 18 July, 2012, 12:38

Gilles wrote:
> 
> Johnny Rosenberg wrote
>> The easiest thing is probably to select one cell, select FOOD, hit Ctrl+c,
>> select all the other cells in which you want the word FOOD (using Ctrl or
>> Shift), hit Ctrl+v.
> 
> Thanks much for the tip. It's fast enough.
> 
> 
> 
> Tom wrote
>> How about using GnuCash?
> 
> Thanks for the idea. I know about GnuCash, but it's a bit too feature-rich
> just to compute how much money I spend on what, and besides my bank no
> longer provides data in CSV but rather as PDF :-/

     A database will also do what you want to do. Queries will provide you with 
the information you need. I use such a database. One query tells me the balance 
of all my financial accounts (9 of them). Two queries break down my expenses 
into budget categories; one is for the present month, and the second is for the 
previous month. This way I can compare expenses for the two month by category. 
Both queries have a column for the budgeted amounts for each category as well.

--Dan
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Calc] Display drop-down list in all cells in column?

2012-07-18 Thread Dan

Gilles wrote:


Johnny Rosenberg wrote

The easiest thing is probably to select one cell, select FOOD, hit Ctrl+c,
select all the other cells in which you want the word FOOD (using Ctrl or
Shift), hit Ctrl+v.


Thanks much for the tip. It's fast enough.



Tom wrote

How about using GnuCash?


Thanks for the idea. I know about GnuCash, but it's a bit too feature-rich
just to compute how much money I spend on what, and besides my bank no
longer provides data in CSV but rather as PDF :-/


 A database will also do what you want to do. Queries will provide 
you with the information you need. I use such a database. One query 
tells me the balance of all my financial accounts (9 of them). Two 
queries break down my expenses into budget categories; one is for the 
present month, and the second is for the previous month. This way I can 
compare expenses for the two month by category. Both queries have a 
column for the budgeted amounts for each category as well.


--Dan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Calc] Display drop-down list in all cells in column?

2012-07-17 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2012/7/17 Johnny Rosenberg :
> 2012/7/17 Gilles :
>> Thanks for the tip. Didn't think of this.
>>
>> In the same vein, after I created a list of possible items for the drop-down
>> box to be displayed in that column, is it possible to select some cells
>> through CTRL, and apply the same item for all of them?
>>
>> For instance, I'd like to select all the cells for food shopping,
>> right-click on the selected section and choose "FOOD" from the drop-down
>> list.
>>
>> I assume it's not possible to select the rows themselves, but selecting the
>> cells individually is good enough.
>
> I don't thinks that's possible. The easiest thing is probably to
> select one cell, select FOOD, hit Ctrl+c, select all the other cells
> in which you want the word FOOD (using Ctrl or Shift), hit Ctrl+v. Not
> too much extra work, I think.

By the way, if you entered FOOD in one cell, entering a single ”F” in
another cell will probably suggest ”FOOD” anyway, so you probably
won't need to enter more than a single ”F” into those other cells
anyway. There are always more than one way to do things. In most
cases, anyway…

Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ

>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Johnny Rosenberg
> ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [3.5.3.2/Calc] Display drop-down list in all cells in column?

2012-07-17 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2012/7/17 Gilles :
> Thanks for the tip. Didn't think of this.
>
> In the same vein, after I created a list of possible items for the drop-down
> box to be displayed in that column, is it possible to select some cells
> through CTRL, and apply the same item for all of them?
>
> For instance, I'd like to select all the cells for food shopping,
> right-click on the selected section and choose "FOOD" from the drop-down
> list.
>
> I assume it's not possible to select the rows themselves, but selecting the
> cells individually is good enough.

I don't thinks that's possible. The easiest thing is probably to
select one cell, select FOOD, hit Ctrl+c, select all the other cells
in which you want the word FOOD (using Ctrl or Shift), hit Ctrl+v. Not
too much extra work, I think.


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ

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