Re: Form filling, was Re: [libreoffice-users] We want to create a questionnaire...
Hi :) I thought Draw was the one to use for forms like that? OCR? Sry, i have probably got a bit muddled but i just found this post in my spam folder Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 24/6/12, jkedar prema...@gmail.com wrote: From: jkedar prema...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Form filling, was Re: [libreoffice-users] We want to create a questionnaire... To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 24 June, 2012, 19:58 Hi, Copy paste picture in Calc - Arrange to Background allows data entry into cells. Couldn't this be a form ? -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Form-filling-was-Re-libreoffice-users-We-want-to-create-a-questionnaire-tp3991524p3992007.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Hi, Copy paste picture in Calc - Arrange to Background allows data entry into cells. Couldn't this be a form ? -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Form-filling-was-Re-libreoffice-users-We-want-to-create-a-questionnaire-tp3991524p3992007.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Hi, sometimes filling out a form I would like to 1) scan the form 2) open a document 3) put the form in the background (as a water mark?) 4) type the answers at the appropriate positions 5) print the whole thing. I could a imagnie writing a makro for that, or is there faster procedure? Walther Am Mittwoch, 20. Juni 2012 schrieb Tom Davies: Hi :) Google apps are on our side, if there are sides, in this co-operative competition between ourselves. Each fills a niche and it's just finding the right tool for the job instead of one great big bloated tool that is never quite right anywhere. Google are one of LO's supporters and i think they are one of the companies on the Advisory Board that helps guide the BoD. Regards from Tom :) --- On Wed, 20/6/12, Chad Neeper cnee...@level9networks.com wrote: From: Chad Neeper cnee...@level9networks.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] We want to create a questionnaire... To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Wednesday, 20 June, 2012, 18:14 On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:10 PM, JenS8 jennys8.ama...@dfgh.net wrote: We want to create a questionaire that people can fill out on their computer and email back to us when complete. One of my (rather non-technical) clients just created a very effective survey form via Google Apps. The form is available via the Internet, so it's cross-platform. The data is collected and dumped into a spreadsheet and is accessible via Google. Very clean, very simple, very effective, very free. I think it quite possibly would handily meet your requirements. (But I still love and use LibreOffice!) -- __ *Chad Neeper* Senior Systems Engineer *Level 9 Networks* 740-548-8070 (voice) 866-214-6607 (fax) *Full LAN/WAN consulting services -- Specialized in libraries and schools* -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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On 20/06/2012, JenS8 jennys8.ama...@dfgh.net wrote: Hello, We want to create a questionaire that people can fill out on their computer and email back to us when complete. Unless you are sure of the recipients' computers, using online survey forms as suggested previously is most appropriate. For the benefit of other readers, specifically technical authors, HTML forms has been replaced by xforms, which LOwriter is capable to create. At this time, xforms is probably most possible for internal use within an organisation. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Hi :) There was a thread about this ages ago. Maybe a few months ago. Something about importing the scanned image into Draw. I wish i could do this too. Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 21/6/12, Walther Koehler w.koeh...@onlinemed.de wrote: From: Walther Koehler w.koeh...@onlinemed.de Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] We want to create a questionnaire... To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 21 June, 2012, 7:01 Hi, sometimes filling out a form I would like to 1) scan the form 2) open a document 3) put the form in the background (as a water mark?) 4) type the answers at the appropriate positions 5) print the whole thing. I could a imagnie writing a makro for that, or is there faster procedure? Walther Am Mittwoch, 20. Juni 2012 schrieb Tom Davies: Hi :) Google apps are on our side, if there are sides, in this co-operative competition between ourselves. Each fills a niche and it's just finding the right tool for the job instead of one great big bloated tool that is never quite right anywhere. Google are one of LO's supporters and i think they are one of the companies on the Advisory Board that helps guide the BoD. Regards from Tom :) --- On Wed, 20/6/12, Chad Neeper cnee...@level9networks.com wrote: From: Chad Neeper cnee...@level9networks.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] We want to create a questionnaire... To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Wednesday, 20 June, 2012, 18:14 On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:10 PM, JenS8 jennys8.ama...@dfgh.net wrote: We want to create a questionaire that people can fill out on their computer and email back to us when complete. One of my (rather non-technical) clients just created a very effective survey form via Google Apps. The form is available via the Internet, so it's cross-platform. The data is collected and dumped into a spreadsheet and is accessible via Google. Very clean, very simple, very effective, very free. I think it quite possibly would handily meet your requirements. (But I still love and use LibreOffice!) -- __ *Chad Neeper* Senior Systems Engineer *Level 9 Networks* 740-548-8070 (voice) 866-214-6607 (fax) *Full LAN/WAN consulting services -- Specialized in libraries and schools* -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Hi :) Pdf is a fairly universal format and most people already have soem version of Adobe Reader on their machine because Pdf and Adobe are so widespread. There are better Pdf readers such as Foxit (also free) or OpenSource ones. LibreOffice can read Pdf but editing them is tricky so it's best to keep an original in an OpenDocument Format such as Odt. Foxit is very fast compared to the Adobe one and doesn't keep demanding you upgrade it but like i say most people already have an Adobe Reader installed. Pdf tends to be downloadable rather than viewed and filled-in on a web-site. Perhaps you are looking for an html answer? http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_forms.asp I'm not sure what you need on the server-side in order to keep track of the input. It's one of those things i have managed to avoid needing so far but i really should get to grips with it as i am fairly sure our web-hosts already have everything we need just waiting to be used. Regards from Tom :) --- On Wed, 20/6/12, JenS8 jennys8.ama...@dfgh.net wrote: From: JenS8 jennys8.ama...@dfgh.net Subject: [libreoffice-users] We want to create a questionnaire... To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Wednesday, 20 June, 2012, 2:10 Hello, We want to create a questionaire that people can fill out on their computer and email back to us when complete. How can we create a document with the following properties: 1. When person clicks on a blank, they can type in their answer, and the underline characters [ ___ ] don't move to the right 2. We want some parts of the form to be uneditable. For example, the headers, the instructions, the text that says what we expect in every blank. 3.The document can be saved when completed, or even when partially completed 4. Check-boxes can be clicked on 5.Radio buttons (multiple choice) can be clicked on 6.The document is universal: a. People using Windows, Mac, Linux, Playbook, tablets can work on the form b. People don't have to download a special program to fill the form Thank you very much. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/We-want-to-create-a-questionnaire-tp3991184.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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On 20/06/2012 at 03:54, jennys8.ama...@dfgh.net wrote: However, the questionnaire is rather long; it has about 70-plus questions. A text document may be better to use because the person can save their progress and easily resume anytime. There is online survey tool called LimeSurvey. It is open sourced and depends on PHP and MySQL (if you have website, then I believe you do meet these requirements). It gives users option to save survey and resume for later. It is used by quite a few universities out there. I recommend you give it a try. Their website is at http://www.limesurvey.org/ . You will find documentation and demo page there as well. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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High Tom do you really recommend a proprietary format like pdf in an open source environment? You know, PDF is licensed by Adobe and even a simple end user has to subscribe a contract with this company. Have you ever read this license agreement? So PDF ist NOT free. Walther Am Mittwoch, 20. Juni 2012 schrieb Tom Davies: Hi :) Pdf is a fairly universal format and most people already have soem version of Adobe Reader on their machine because Pdf and Adobe are so widespread. There are better Pdf readers such as Foxit (also free) or OpenSource ones. LibreOffice can read Pdf but editing them is tricky so it's best to keep an original in an OpenDocument Format such as Odt. Foxit is very fast compared to the Adobe one and doesn't keep demanding you upgrade it but like i say most people already have an Adobe Reader installed. Pdf tends to be downloadable rather than viewed and filled-in on a web-site. Perhaps you are looking for an html answer? http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_forms.asp I'm not sure what you need on the server-side in order to keep track of the input. It's one of those things i have managed to avoid needing so far but i really should get to grips with it as i am fairly sure our web-hosts already have everything we need just waiting to be used. Regards from Tom :) --- On Wed, 20/6/12, JenS8 jennys8.ama...@dfgh.net wrote: From: JenS8 jennys8.ama...@dfgh.net Subject: [libreoffice-users] We want to create a questionnaire... To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Wednesday, 20 June, 2012, 2:10 Hello, We want to create a questionaire that people can fill out on their computer and email back to us when complete. How can we create a document with the following properties: 1. When person clicks on a blank, they can type in their answer, and the underline characters [ ___ ] don't move to the right 2. We want some parts of the form to be uneditable. For example, the headers, the instructions, the text that says what we expect in every blank. 3.The document can be saved when completed, or even when partially completed 4. Check-boxes can be clicked on 5.Radio buttons (multiple choice) can be clicked on 6.The document is universal: a. People using Windows, Mac, Linux, Playbook, tablets can work on the form b. People don't have to download a special program to fill the form Thank you very much. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/We-want-to-create-a-questionnaire-tp39 91184.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Hi :) Yes, sadly i do realise that Pdf is a fairly ethically bad format BUT i do have to live in the real world too. Pdf is difficult to avoid and there doesn't seem to be much alternative yet. One of the key requirements of the op was that no special program would have to be installed. Pdf readers are likely to already be installed on most peoples systems. The docs team have offered one of the guides as e-pub but pdf remains dominant. I would recommend moving away from Adobe Reader because there are a lot of alternatives and i think they are almost all better. Adobe seems to have frequent 'security' updates but many would claim that it needs them because it is so widely used that it is a target. The theory is that if other programs were so widespread then they would have similar level of trouble. It's a poor argument but appears popular with people that refuse to try alternatives. Pdf is free (small f) just not Free in a Libre sense. Regards from Tom :) --- On Wed, 20/6/12, Walther Koehler w.koeh...@onlinemed.de wrote: From: Walther Koehler w.koeh...@onlinemed.de Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] We want to create a questionnaire... To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Wednesday, 20 June, 2012, 9:58 High Tom do you really recommend a proprietary format like pdf in an open source environment? You know, PDF is licensed by Adobe and even a simple end user has to subscribe a contract with this company. Have you ever read this license agreement? So PDF ist NOT free. Walther Am Mittwoch, 20. Juni 2012 schrieb Tom Davies: Hi :) Pdf is a fairly universal format and most people already have soem version of Adobe Reader on their machine because Pdf and Adobe are so widespread. There are better Pdf readers such as Foxit (also free) or OpenSource ones. LibreOffice can read Pdf but editing them is tricky so it's best to keep an original in an OpenDocument Format such as Odt. Foxit is very fast compared to the Adobe one and doesn't keep demanding you upgrade it but like i say most people already have an Adobe Reader installed. Pdf tends to be downloadable rather than viewed and filled-in on a web-site. Perhaps you are looking for an html answer? http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_forms.asp I'm not sure what you need on the server-side in order to keep track of the input. It's one of those things i have managed to avoid needing so far but i really should get to grips with it as i am fairly sure our web-hosts already have everything we need just waiting to be used. Regards from Tom :) --- On Wed, 20/6/12, JenS8 jennys8.ama...@dfgh.net wrote: From: JenS8 jennys8.ama...@dfgh.net Subject: [libreoffice-users] We want to create a questionnaire... To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Wednesday, 20 June, 2012, 2:10 Hello, We want to create a questionaire that people can fill out on their computer and email back to us when complete. How can we create a document with the following properties: 1. When person clicks on a blank, they can type in their answer, and the underline characters [ ___ ] don't move to the right 2. We want some parts of the form to be uneditable. For example, the headers, the instructions, the text that says what we expect in every blank. 3.The document can be saved when completed, or even when partially completed 4. Check-boxes can be clicked on 5.Radio buttons (multiple choice) can be clicked on 6.The document is universal: a. People using Windows, Mac, Linux, Playbook, tablets can work on the form b. People don't have to download a special program to fill the form Thank you very much. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/We-want-to-create-a-questionnaire-tp39 91184.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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High Tom, yes PDF is free meaning you have not to pay in advance, a least as you use only basic functions and its not a commercial use. But what when you receive a document with special features? Its the same situation I had at the university long time ago: At this time MSWord was free in the sense that nobody cared where you get your license from, and all students used it and requesetd its use in their offces later on. Walther is free in the Am Mittwoch, 20. Juni 2012 schrieb Tom Davies: Hi :) Yes, sadly i do realise that Pdf is a fairly ethically bad format BUT i do have to live in the real world too. Pdf is difficult to avoid and there doesn't seem to be much alternative yet. One of the key requirements of the op was that no special program would have to be installed. Pdf readers are likely to already be installed on most peoples systems. The docs team have offered one of the guides as e-pub but pdf remains dominant. I would recommend moving away from Adobe Reader because there are a lot of alternatives and i think they are almost all better. Adobe seems to have frequent 'security' updates but many would claim that it needs them because it is so widely used that it is a target. The theory is that if other programs were so widespread then they would have similar level of trouble. It's a poor argument but appears popular with people that refuse to try alternatives. Pdf is free (small f) just not Free in a Libre sense. Regards from Tom :) --- On Wed, 20/6/12, Walther Koehler w.koeh...@onlinemed.de wrote: From: Walther Koehler w.koeh...@onlinemed.de Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] We want to create a questionnaire... To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Wednesday, 20 June, 2012, 9:58 High Tom do you really recommend a proprietary format like pdf in an open source environment? You know, PDF is licensed by Adobe and even a simple end user has to subscribe a contract with this company. Have you ever read this license agreement? So PDF ist NOT free. Walther Am Mittwoch, 20. Juni 2012 schrieb Tom Davies: Hi :) Pdf is a fairly universal format and most people already have soem version of Adobe Reader on their machine because Pdf and Adobe are so widespread. There are better Pdf readers such as Foxit (also free) or OpenSource ones. LibreOffice can read Pdf but editing them is tricky so it's best to keep an original in an OpenDocument Format such as Odt. Foxit is very fast compared to the Adobe one and doesn't keep demanding you upgrade it but like i say most people already have an Adobe Reader installed. Pdf tends to be downloadable rather than viewed and filled-in on a web-site. Perhaps you are looking for an html answer? http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_forms.asp I'm not sure what you need on the server-side in order to keep track of the input. It's one of those things i have managed to avoid needing so far but i really should get to grips with it as i am fairly sure our web-hosts already have everything we need just waiting to be used. Regards from Tom :) --- On Wed, 20/6/12, JenS8 jennys8.ama...@dfgh.net wrote: From: JenS8 jennys8.ama...@dfgh.net Subject: [libreoffice-users] We want to create a questionnaire... To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Wednesday, 20 June, 2012, 2:10 Hello, We want to create a questionaire that people can fill out on their computer and email back to us when complete. How can we create a document with the following properties: 1. When person clicks on a blank, they can type in their answer, and the underline characters [ ___ ] don't move to the right 2. We want some parts of the form to be uneditable. For example, the headers, the instructions, the text that says what we expect in every blank. 3.The document can be saved when completed, or even when partially completed 4. Check-boxes can be clicked on 5.Radio buttons (multiple choice) can be clicked on 6.The document is universal: a. People using Windows, Mac, Linux, Playbook, tablets can work on the form b. People don't have to download a special program to fill the form Thank you very much. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/We-want-to-create-a-questionnaire-tp 39 91184.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/20/2012 06:39 AM, Walther Koehler wrote: High Tom, yes PDF is free meaning you have not to pay in advance, a least as you use only basic functions and its not a commercial use. But what when you receive a document with special features? Ask for another format, or ask to file the same document in some other way. Complain, complain, complain. Be very precise about why it's not a good practice to do that. Its the same situation I had at the university long time ago: At this time MSWord was free in the sense that nobody cared where you get your license from, and all students used it and requesetd its use in their offces later on. Walther To the extent that LibreOffice integrates PDF import and export functions, there isn't much point in extending this discussion much longer unless one can propose a valid, better/equivalent alternative. I personally think an online implementation (via web forms+database/email) is better suited for this specific case. I can't see a good reason to use PDF forms except in exceptionally highly custom-formatted scenarios. Then again, if your questionnaire requires such formatting it may benefit from some simplification. Here's a list of possible technical issues of using PDF: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pdf#Technical_issues If and when there is absolutely no alternative to using a PDF, I'd suggest you point your audience to this resource for a good, free+open source PDF reader: http://pdfreaders.org/ Adobe's reader software is notoriously bloated, and the frequent updates are there because the reader includes several other dozen formats that Adobe wants to be readable on every system it's installed on (in addition to advanced features only available in commercial versions) What about patents and openness of the PDF standard? This page provides such details: http://pdfreaders.org/os.en.html Microsoft licenses are vey much 100% free and legal to obtain by students/faculty staff pretty much worldwide now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DreamSpark_Premium It's not the same situation with MS software although I see your point. No Microsoft software is considered an ISO standard and there aren't 100% free open source software implementations of any MS software that I know of as is the case with the PDF format, so I'd be use such examples with care - otherwise you'll get the opposite effect when trying to advocate free, open standards. Cheers, Fabián Rodríguez http://libreoffice.magicfab.ca -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: PGP/Mime available upon request Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/hyZoACgkQfUcTXFrypNWsVQCgm79jvFzFyVo4e8WiCUnjUc3X DCoAnRlz0eTRYkFTHMgfcmDqHiAVav+4 =1sT9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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I suggest you check out Survey Monkey http://www.surveymonkey.com. You create the survey, they host and collect the data for you. it is free for simple surveys. Mark On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Mirosław Zalewski mini...@poczta.onet.plwrote: On 20/06/2012 at 03:54, jennys8.ama...@dfgh.net wrote: However, the questionnaire is rather long; it has about 70-plus questions. A text document may be better to use because the person can save their progress and easily resume anytime. There is online survey tool called LimeSurvey. It is open sourced and depends on PHP and MySQL (if you have website, then I believe you do meet these requirements). It gives users option to save survey and resume for later. It is used by quite a few universities out there. I recommend you give it a try. Their website is at http://www.limesurvey.org/ . You will find documentation and demo page there as well. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Hi :) All good except the side-issue about MS licenses. To quote from the wiki-page pointed to The participating schools pay an annual fee for the service Students may continue to use these products for non-commercial purposes, even after they graduate. Even after graduation students may receive all free updates to the software, such as security updates and service packs, that are available to everyone through ... [citation needed] (citation needed means the link given doesn't work so i replaced it with dots) Sadly MS formats almost always do still need to be used to communicate with some people but hopefully that will stop being the case in the future. Most of us have very different ideas on how to get away from that dependency. I think we need a multi-vectored approach which is pretty much the way things are going already. Odd to see someone with an FSF address suggesting MS is coolgroovy! Lol, i guess we all have strange days occasionally. Regards from Tom :) --- On Wed, 20/6/12, Fabian Rodriguez hidden wrote: snip / Microsoft licenses are very much 100% free and legal to obtain by students/faculty staff pretty much worldwide now: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DreamSpark_Premium It's not the same situation with MS software although I see your point. No Microsoft software is considered an ISO standard and there aren't 100% free open source software implementations of any MS software that I know of as is the case with the PDF format, so I'd be use such examples with care - otherwise you'll get the opposite effect when trying to advocate free, open standards. Cheers, Fabián Rodríguez -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Hi :) I think these 2 answers were by far the best in this thread! I hope they are useful Jenny :) Regards from Tom :) --- On Wed, 20/6/12, Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz wrote: From: Mark Phillips m...@phillipsmarketing.biz Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] We want to create a questionnaire... To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Wednesday, 20 June, 2012, 15:17 I suggest you check out Survey Monkey http://www.surveymonkey.com. You create the survey, they host and collect the data for you. it is free for simple surveys. Mark On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Mirosław Zalewski mini...@poczta.onet.plwrote: On 20/06/2012 at 03:54, jennys8.ama...@dfgh.net wrote: However, the questionnaire is rather long; it has about 70-plus questions. A text document may be better to use because the person can save their progress and easily resume anytime. There is online survey tool called LimeSurvey. It is open sourced and depends on PHP and MySQL (if you have website, then I believe you do meet these requirements). It gives users option to save survey and resume for later. It is used by quite a few universities out there. I recommend you give it a try. Their website is at http://www.limesurvey.org/ . You will find documentation and demo page there as well. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:10 PM, JenS8 jennys8.ama...@dfgh.net wrote: We want to create a questionaire that people can fill out on their computer and email back to us when complete. One of my (rather non-technical) clients just created a very effective survey form via Google Apps. The form is available via the Internet, so it's cross-platform. The data is collected and dumped into a spreadsheet and is accessible via Google. Very clean, very simple, very effective, very free. I think it quite possibly would handily meet your requirements. (But I still love and use LibreOffice!) -- __ *Chad Neeper* Senior Systems Engineer *Level 9 Networks* 740-548-8070 (voice) 866-214-6607 (fax) *Full LAN/WAN consulting services -- Specialized in libraries and schools* -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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On 6/20/2012 1:14 PM, Chad Neeper wrote: On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:10 PM, JenS8 jennys8.ama...@dfgh.net wrote: We want to create a questionaire that people can fill out on their computer and email back to us when complete. One of my (rather non-technical) clients just created a very effective survey form via Google Apps. The form is available via the Internet, so it's cross-platform. The data is collected and dumped into a spreadsheet and is accessible via Google. Very clean, very simple, very effective, very free. I think it quite possibly would handily meet your requirements. (But I still love and use LibreOffice!) I would love to hear how they did this. Many thanks --- eric -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Hi :) Google apps are on our side, if there are sides, in this co-operative competition between ourselves. Each fills a niche and it's just finding the right tool for the job instead of one great big bloated tool that is never quite right anywhere. Google are one of LO's supporters and i think they are one of the companies on the Advisory Board that helps guide the BoD. Regards from Tom :) --- On Wed, 20/6/12, Chad Neeper cnee...@level9networks.com wrote: From: Chad Neeper cnee...@level9networks.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] We want to create a questionnaire... To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Wednesday, 20 June, 2012, 18:14 On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 9:10 PM, JenS8 jennys8.ama...@dfgh.net wrote: We want to create a questionaire that people can fill out on their computer and email back to us when complete. One of my (rather non-technical) clients just created a very effective survey form via Google Apps. The form is available via the Internet, so it's cross-platform. The data is collected and dumped into a spreadsheet and is accessible via Google. Very clean, very simple, very effective, very free. I think it quite possibly would handily meet your requirements. (But I still love and use LibreOffice!) -- __ *Chad Neeper* Senior Systems Engineer *Level 9 Networks* 740-548-8070 (voice) 866-214-6607 (fax) *Full LAN/WAN consulting services -- Specialized in libraries and schools* -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/19/2012 09:10 PM, JenS8 wrote: Hello, We want to create a questionaire that people can fill out on their computer and email back to us when complete. How can we create a document with the following properties: 1. When person clicks on a blank, they can type in their answer, and the underline characters [ ___ ] don't move to the right 2. We want some parts of the form to be uneditable. For example, the headers, the instructions, the text that says what we expect in every blank. 3.The document can be saved when completed, or even when partially completed 4. Check-boxes can be clicked on 5.Radio buttons (multiple choice) can be clicked on 6.The document is universal: a. People using Windows, Mac, Linux, Playbook, tablets can work on the form b. People don't have to download a special program to fill the form Why do you want to do this with LibreOffice? This strikes me as something relatively simple to do on a web site. F. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: PGP/Mime available upon request Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/hK5UACgkQfUcTXFrypNU1CgCcCGGJAZrAl8bsFqI/zG0Xw4VC zuAAoL0h0+JeXteDLl9WyqqhtUQSdX9i =EQzr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Fabian, Yes, the person will be getting to the questionnaire/form through our website, so a webpage, if it could do all this, is good. However, the questionnaire is rather long; it has about 70-plus questions. A text document may be better to use because the person can save their progress and easily resume anytime. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 06:10:20 PM JenS8 wrote: Hello, We want to create a questionaire that people can fill out on their computer and email back to us when complete. How can we create a document with the following properties: 1. When person clicks on a blank, they can type in their answer, and the underline characters [ ___ ] don't move to the right 2. We want some parts of the form to be uneditable. For example, the headers, the instructions, the text that says what we expect in every blank. 3.The document can be saved when completed, or even when partially completed 4. Check-boxes can be clicked on 5.Radio buttons (multiple choice) can be clicked on 6.The document is universal: a. People using Windows, Mac, Linux, Playbook, tablets can work on the form b. People don't have to download a special program to fill the form Thank you very much. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/We-want-to-create-a-questionnair e-tp3991184.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted This all can be done in LibreOffice Writer. You can create a .odt document by using the tools that you can enable with View -- Toolbars -- Form design, form navigation and forms control. After your done your design you can export the .odt document as an .pdf. The pdf document can be emailed out, filled in and then emailed back. I use this for a lot of questionaires for my Lions Club activities. Also under the libreoffice help read the sections under Forms. Also this may help: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/7/73/WG3400-WriterGuideLO.pdf Chapters 14 and 15. Hope this help. Russ openSUSE 12.1(3.1.10-1.9-desktop x86_64)|KDE Platform Version 4.8.3 (4.8.3) release 504|Intel core2duo 2.5 MHZ,|8GB DDR3|GeForce 8400GS(NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.53) -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
