Re: [389-users] Strange about MMR Setup?
Hello Meggin, Something to ask you before putting it on bugs. While I was busy setting up MMR through mmr.pl, I did some manual changes on Console with Replication. I selected NetRoot and UserRoot option with Enable logs[*] and did provided the following : cn=repman,ou=People,ou=im,dc=sap,dc=com on Supplier DN Add button. Is it something which made the consumer rename as Supplier. Anyone who came across this before - Consumer Naming convention changes to supplier while replicating. On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Rich Megginson rmegg...@redhat.comwrote: Ajeet S Raina wrote: I have attached screenshot herewith. Hmm - not sure what's going on. If you can reproduce this behavior, please open a bug, and include as much detail about your environment, DNS, /etc/hosts, /etc/resolv.conf, hostnames, IP addresses, and setup configuration as possible. On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Rich Megginson rmegg...@redhat.com mailto:rmegg...@redhat.com wrote: Ajeet S Raina wrote: Hello Guys, I have setup two Machines for Master to Master Replication.The Hostname of first Machine is 389-supplier.sap.com http://389-supplier.sap.com/ http://389-supplier.sap.com http://389-supplier.sap.com/ and the other one 389-consumer.sap.com.Things were going on fine till yesterday. Surprisingly, when I opened 389-Management Console of both the Server (configured with Self Signed Certificate) I first explored through Supplier. I clicked on Directory Server and could see everything seems fine.But when I opened 389-Consumer, I was surprised to see the name of entire directory Structure changed to 389-supplier.sap.com http://389-supplier.sap.com/ http://389-supplier.sap.com http://389-supplier.sap.com/. Is it because of Replication? could be - could you post some screenshots? -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- ”It is not possible to rescue everyone who is caught in the Windows quicksand --Make sure you are on solid Linux ground before trying.” -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- ”It is not possible to rescue everyone who is caught in the Windows quicksand --Make sure you are on solid Linux ground before trying.” -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: Document Viewer can not open latest PDF?
2010/1/30 Oliver Ruebenacker cur...@gmail.com: Hello, On a fully updated F12, I try to open the following link http://apply07.grants.gov/apply/opportunities/packages/oppPA-10-063-cidADOBE-FORMS-B.pdf with the default Document Viewer, and the Document Viewer opens and displays instead of the document the following message: Same thing with Okular (KDE4). Interestingly enough, it also says there are embedded documents, which I can save out. There's another pdf in there about Budget or something.. PDF 1.4 is an open standard, but Adobe products tend to extent the standard which can make their PDFs incompatible with standards based readers. Most annoying.. -c -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Document Viewer can not open latest PDF?
On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 19:22 +1100, Chris Smart wrote: Same thing with Okular (KDE4). It's my understanding that all of the currently available free PDF readers on Linux use the poppler library to render the PDF. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Thunderbird and Junk folder
Hi everyone, I was trying to find my Junk mail folder to check for any mislabelled messages, but couldn't find it. I access 3 email accounts; Gmail, Zimbra and I am not sure what the third one is (work related), the Junk Mail folder is missing in all three. I can however see the Junk folder from Kmail. I am using Thunderbird 3 on F11 x86_64. Any ideas what might be wrong? -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Serial port (/dev/ttySX) question.
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:19:15 -0500 Gene Heskett gene.hesk...@verizon.net wrote: Greetings all; rs-232 tech is getting old, like me. Do we have a tool that can display graphically in near real time, the status of the commonly used wires/signals in the '7 wire' protocol? cat /proc/tty/driver/serial will give you some info -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Fedora12 Release Notes.
What has happened to the concept of release notes that a person could actually print down and read? Previous releases have had Release Notes that were mabe 20 pages long, with a sentence or two about each change. I looked at the Release Notes for Fedora12, and its a 500page PDF document. Now thats way longer than I want to print, since I would never read it all, and there is no way Im going to read more than a page or two of it online. So basically, someone has spent a lot of time, generating a very nice looking document, which I am sure has a lot of good information in it, but we need something more compact. Something I can read in 10minutes. As it stands, I have to assume that I, and everyone else just ignores these Release Notes. Too bad. -- Reg.Clemens r...@dwf.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora12 Release Notes.
Maybe this will help: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_one_page_release_notes I was not aware of the new release notes format, which is a fantastic resource, all Fedora Docs can be found here: http://docs.fedoraproject.org/ On 01/30/2010 09:38 AM, r...@dwf.com wrote: What has happened to the concept of release notes that a person could actually print down and read? Previous releases have had Release Notes that were mabe 20 pages long, with a sentence or two about each change. I looked at the Release Notes for Fedora12, and its a 500page PDF document. Now thats way longer than I want to print, since I would never read it all, and there is no way Im going to read more than a page or two of it online. So basically, someone has spent a lot of time, generating a very nice looking document, which I am sure has a lot of good information in it, but we need something more compact. Something I can read in 10minutes. As it stands, I have to assume that I, and everyone else just ignores these Release Notes. Too bad. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Serial port (/dev/ttySX) question.
On 01/29/2010 10:19 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Greetings all; rs-232 tech is getting old, like me. Do we have a tool that can display graphically in near real time, the status of the commonly used wires/signals in the '7 wire' protocol? I need something that works a bit like the old db25 tester with a bunch of LED's to tally the line states like that gismo Radio Shack sold 20 years ago. Those blinking leds were a very good troubleshooting tool, and I'm having flow control problems that look like a system freeze on one end or the other, but when rz times out, I still get a prompt from the shell on the other end, but nothing I type here arrives there, like hardware flow is still in effect and turned off on one end or the other. Thanks All for any hints. You can try statserial and see if it will do what you want. It is even in the repos. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Thunderbird and Junk folder
On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 01:22 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi everyone, I was trying to find my Junk mail folder to check for any mislabelled messages, but couldn't find it. I access 3 email accounts; Gmail, Zimbra and I am not sure what the third one is (work related), the Junk Mail folder is missing in all three. I can however see the Junk folder from Kmail. I am using Thunderbird 3 on F11 x86_64. Any ideas what might be wrong? How did you configure the Thunderbird Junk controls for each account, and how did you configure them from Kmail? poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: NVIDIA: no sound to TV via HDMI
On 01/29/2010 05:49 PM, Marcel Rieux wrote: Oups! This message was sent before it was completed. On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Mikkel mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: So, you were right. On the motherboard, the sockets and the labelling are dephased. ---[SNIP]- So, the S/PDIF wire is now in the right plug and... sound still doesn't get out on the TV. Maybe this has to do with Alsamixer defaulting on Default, with only has a setting for Master. This corresponds to the setting in the GNOME top panel. If I press F6, my integrated audio card appears as 0 - HDA ATI SB I make all my settings, but it has not effect: it seems the Default is always enabled. Make sure you have the polarity correct on your jumper. Hooking it up backwards can damage the video card and/or the sound card. Then check your Pulse Audio settings to make sure you have the digital output enabled. This has already been covered in this thread... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Testing sound?
The sound on my Thinkpad T43 (model 1871-12G) sometimes works, and sometimes does not work. I think this has something to do with Suspend to Disk. However, I'm not really asking about this, but rather: Is there a simple way of testing if sound is working? I'm running Fedora-12/KDE, and looked at System Settings= Look and Feel=Notifications , but did not really understand how one is supposed to use this. Is there a simple command-line test for sound? Shouldn't there be a test somewhere in KMix since there seem to be a billion choices there? The only test I have found is to put in a CD and run Amarok, but I am sure there is something simpler than that? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Kernel crash message in F12 - anyone explain?
Today I got the following after abrt popped up - I don't know what this refers to or why the crash happened! Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [ cut here ] Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: WARNING: at fs/notify/inotify/inotify_fsnotify.c:129 idr_callback+0x32/0x56() (Not tainted) Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: Hardware name: OptiPlex 960 Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: inotify closing but id=0 for entry=ef4832c0 in group=f006f480 still in idr. Probably leaking memory Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: Modules linked in: fuse ipt_MASQUERADE bridge stp llc sunrpc cpufreq_ondemand acpi_cpufreq iptable_nat nf_nat iptable_mangle ip6t_REJECT nf_conntrack_ipv6 ip6table_filter ip6_tables ipv6 dm_multipath kvm uinput usblp snd_hda_codec_analog snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec snd_hwdep iTCO_wdt snd_seq iTCO_vendor_support e1000e snd_seq_device snd_pcm snd_timer serio_raw ppdev snd parport_pc i2c_i801 soundcore parport dcdbas snd_page_alloc wmi pata_acpi ata_generic nouveau ttm drm_kms_helper drm i2c_algo_bit i2c_core [last unloaded: microcode] Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: Pid: 2413, comm: imap Not tainted 2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE #1 Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: Call Trace: Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c043db4b] warn_slowpath_common+0x70/0x87 Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c04ede48] ? idr_callback+0x32/0x56 Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c043dba0] warn_slowpath_fmt+0x29/0x2c Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c04ede48] idr_callback+0x32/0x56 Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c059ee84] idr_for_each+0x5c/0x97 Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c04ede16] ? idr_callback+0x0/0x56 Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c04ec4fc] ? fsnotify_put_event+0x48/0x4b Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c04ede05] inotify_free_group_priv+0x1a/0x2b Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c04ec5db] fsnotify_final_destroy_group+0x1e/0x28 Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c04ec69f] fsnotify_put_group+0x75/0x78 Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c04edfbd] inotify_release+0x1e/0x28 Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c04c9dbf] __fput+0xed/0x184 Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c04c9e6e] fput+0x18/0x1a Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c04c7311] filp_close+0x56/0x60 Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c04c737b] sys_close+0x60/0x8f Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c0408fbb] sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x28 Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: ---[ end trace 934d4ab904d334bf ]--- Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: entry-group=(null) inode=(null) wd=1024 Jan 30 14:17:52 home1 named[1064]: client 127.0.0.1#36927: RFC 1918 response from Internet for 1.122.168.192.in-addr.arpa Jan 30 14:18:17 home1 abrt: Kerneloops: Reported 1 kernel oopses to Abrt Jan 30 14:18:17 home1 abrtd: Directory 'kerneloops-1264861097-1' creation detected Jan 30 14:18:17 home1 abrtd: Getting local universal unique identification Jan 30 14:18:17 home1 abrtd: New crash, saving Jan 30 14:18:17 home1 abrtd: RunApp('/var/cache/abrt/kerneloops-1264861097-1','test x`cat component` = xxorg-x11-server-Xorg cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log .') Jan 30 14:18:17 home1 abrtd: Getting local universal unique identification Jan 30 14:18:54 home1 named[1064]: client 127.0.0.1#53596: RFC 1918 response from Internet for 1.122.168.192.in-addr.arpa Jan 30 14:19:55 home1 abrtd: Getting crash infos... Jan 30 14:19:56 home1 named[1064]: client 127.0.0.1#44889: RFC 1918 response from Internet for 1.122.168.192.in-addr.arpa Jan 30 14:20:12 home1 abrtd: Creating report... Jan 30 14:20:12 home1 abrtd: Getting local universal unique identification Jan 30 14:20:12 home1 abrtd: Getting local universal unique identification Anyone interpret this for me? Tnanks -- View this message in context: http://n3.nabble.com/Kernel-crash-message-in-F12-anyone-explain-tp178722p178722.html Sent from the Fedora Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [spam?] Testing sound?
Timothy Murphy wrote: The sound on my Thinkpad T43 (model 1871-12G) sometimes works, and sometimes does not work. I think this has something to do with Suspend to Disk. However, I'm not really asking about this, but rather: Is there a simple way of testing if sound is working? I'm running Fedora-12/KDE, and looked at System Settings= Look and Feel=Notifications , but did not really understand how one is supposed to use this. Is there a simple command-line test for sound? Shouldn't there be a test somewhere in KMix since there seem to be a billion choices there? The only test I have found is to put in a CD and run Amarok, but I am sure there is something simpler than that? Don't know if this will be of value to you I run KDE and I've enabled some notifications. One of them is for konsole.. If I hit backspace, it plays a sound...KDE-Sys-App-Message.ogg to be precise. If you run Gnome, maybe there is a similar function? -- The tree of research must from time to time be refreshed with the blood of bean counters. -- Alan Kay signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: [spam?] Testing sound?
Ed Greshko wrote: Timothy Murphy wrote: The sound on my Thinkpad T43 (model 1871-12G) sometimes works, and sometimes does not work. I think this has something to do with Suspend to Disk. However, I'm not really asking about this, but rather: Is there a simple way of testing if sound is working? I'm running Fedora-12/KDE, and looked at System Settings= Look and Feel=Notifications , but did not really understand how one is supposed to use this. Is there a simple command-line test for sound? Shouldn't there be a test somewhere in KMix since there seem to be a billion choices there? The only test I have found is to put in a CD and run Amarok, but I am sure there is something simpler than that? Don't know if this will be of value to you I run KDE and I've enabled some notifications. One of them is for konsole.. If I hit backspace, it plays a sound...KDE-Sys-App-Message.ogg to be precise. If you run Gnome, maybe there is a similar function? OKwhat I meant to type was(after really reading what you wrote) Go to Notifications as you have There is a pull down Event Source menuSelect Konsole Go to Bell in Non-Visible Session to copy the name of the file KDE-Sys-App-Message.ogg in the Play a Sound area. Then go to Bell in Visible Sessionpaste the name of the sound and check the Play a sound box. Then Apply From now on...if you hit backspace or make some sort of error a beep will be played. Ed -- I tell ya, I was an ugly kid. I was so ugly that my dad kept the kid's picture that came with the wallet he bought. -- Rodney Dangerfield signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re:Testing sound?
Ed Greshko wrote: Resending to remove the keyword spam...which may cause a problem for some Timothy Murphy wrote: The sound on my Thinkpad T43 (model 1871-12G) sometimes works, and sometimes does not work. I think this has something to do with Suspend to Disk. However, I'm not really asking about this, but rather: Is there a simple way of testing if sound is working? I'm running Fedora-12/KDE, and looked at System Settings= Look and Feel=Notifications , but did not really understand how one is supposed to use this. Is there a simple command-line test for sound? Shouldn't there be a test somewhere in KMix since there seem to be a billion choices there? The only test I have found is to put in a CD and run Amarok, but I am sure there is something simpler than that? Don't know if this will be of value to you I run KDE and I've enabled some notifications. One of them is for konsole.. If I hit backspace, it plays a sound...KDE-Sys-App-Message.ogg to be precise. If you run Gnome, maybe there is a similar function? OKwhat I meant to type was(after really reading what you wrote) Go to Notifications as you have There is a pull down Event Source menuSelect Konsole Go to Bell in Non-Visible Session to copy the name of the file KDE-Sys-App-Message.ogg in the Play a Sound area. Then go to Bell in Visible Sessionpaste the name of the sound and check the Play a sound box. Then Apply From now on...if you hit backspace or make some sort of error a beep will be played. Ed -- My brain: it's my second favorite organ. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
FC11 Install Requires Network Connectivity?
I'm in the middle of rebuilding two new machines, neither of them are attached to the network. After following the prompts (3-4 screens) I get Some of your software repositories require networking but there was an error enabling the network on your system. and no other option but to exit the installation. AM I reading this right? I can't do a standalone install anymore w/o network connectivity? I'm sure I didn't download the Live CD but just to make sure I'm downloading the DVD ISO again and reburning. Is there a way to get around this? What am I doing wrong? Thanks - Tod -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: FC11 Install Requires Network Connectivity?
On 01/30/2010 09:39 AM, Tod Thomas wrote: I'm in the middle of rebuilding two new machines, neither of them are attached to the network. After following the prompts (3-4 screens) I get Some of your software repositories require networking but there was an error enabling the network on your system. and no other option but to exit the installation. AM I reading this right? I can't do a standalone install anymore w/o network connectivity? I'm sure I didn't download the Live CD but just to make sure I'm downloading the DVD ISO again and reburning. Is there a way to get around this? What am I doing wrong? If you only enable the install (DVD) repo, you will not require the network. I think you run into the same problem if you enable any of the software groups during install, but I am not sure... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
How do I put Multiple live distro's on a USB flash drive.
I have an 8GB flash drive that I would like to put multiple Fedora Live CD's on. (KDE,Gnome,LXDE,XFCE, FEL, Games and Edu,Third party spins, etc. ) Does anyone have any advice on how to do this? Can I put 32 bit and 64 bit live cd's on the same flash drive and choose between them? Thank you, Tux -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Thunderbird and Junk folder
On Saturday 30 January 2010 06:02 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 01:22 -0800, Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi everyone, I was trying to find my Junk mail folder to check for any mislabelled messages, but couldn't find it. I access 3 email accounts; Gmail, Zimbra and I am not sure what the third one is (work related), the Junk Mail folder is missing in all three. I can however see the Junk folder from Kmail. I am using Thunderbird 3 on F11 x86_64. Any ideas what might be wrong? How did you configure the Thunderbird Junk controls for each account, and how did you configure them from Kmail? For both email clients the Junk Settings are what ever the defaults are. When I checked after your response, thunderbird had adaptive junk controls turned on for all accounts, however I couldn't find out how to setup the junk controls in Kmail. I know the information I am providing above is not exhaustive at all, but I am completely clueless when it comes to dealing with email. (started using email clients less than a year back :-p ) So if anyone could direct me how to provide the complete information, I would appreciate it. poc PS: I use IMAP to access my email for all accounts. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: RaLink rt3090 support
On 01/30/2010 06:09 AM, Colin Brace wrote: Hi all, I installed F12 on a Eee PC 1001HA. Everything workes fine except the wireless chipset, RaLink RT3090 Google turned up various leads, such as this thread: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=236729 One poster writes: Kernel-2.6.32-0.63.rc8.git2.fc13 includes a module for the rt3090 chip in the staging directory. Someone filed a bug against this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=548805 One of the followups indicates: Staging: remove no longer needed rt3090 driver rt2860 handles now all rt2860/rt3090 chipsets. Now I am thoroughly confused. :) Since I'm the one who wrote the post and filed the bug, let me confuse you a bit more. Starting with the 2.6.33 kernel, support for the rt3090 is supposed to be included in the rt2800pci module. I've tried the 2.6.33 kernels in rawhide, but they don't work. The kernel tries to load the module, calls for the rt2860 firmware file, and then gives up. Ralink updated its rt3090 driver this week. I'm hopeful it includes a fix, which will soon be incorporated into the kernel: http://www.ralinktech.com/support.php?s=2 In the meantime, I'm still using the 2.6.32-0.63.rc8.git2.fc13 kernel. I'm not running rawhide, just using the kernel with f12. You can still find the kernel through koji. Please add your information to the bug. It may help to speed up resolution of this issue. -- Joel -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
chromium vs google-chrome
Thank you Spot for providing a chromium repo - I am not sure where to report this so am starting here; Java works fine in google-chrome - but not in chromium. about:plugins shows the sun java (new api libnpjp2.so, vers 1.6.0u18) just as it does for google-chrome however any java test fails to find java. Adding links to /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins makes no difference. This is on 64 bit - I think 32 bit has same problem. gene/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Dual monitor questions
I have a video card with 2 connectors, one VGA and one DVI. The primary monitor is attached to the VGA connector and supports resolution up to 1920x1200. The second monitor is much smaller and does not support 1920x1200. When I connect the second monitor to the DVI connector the top and bottom Gnome panels shift to the DVI monitor, but the rest of the desktop remains on the VGA monitor. If I unplug the second monitor the panels do not move back to the VGA monitor. I can move from the primary monitor to the second monitor by moving the mouse of the right edge so everything seems to work fine, but it's confusing having part of the desktop on one monitor and part on the other. Is there anyway to force the Gnome panels to stay on the primary monitor and not shift to the second monitor? I'm running the F12 nouveau driver. Trying to configure the primary monitor input as DVI failed with it indicating no signal and connecting the second monitor to VGA resulted in it indicating it did not support that resolution. Paolo -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Kernel crash message in F12 - anyone explain?
As far as I know this is not a crash, but rather an unoptimal (slower) path taken somewhere. I don't thing there's neet to worry about this... - Clemens 2010/1/30 Mike Cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com: Today I got the following after abrt popped up - I don't know what this refers to or why the crash happened! Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [ cut here ] Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: WARNING: at fs/notify/inotify/inotify_fsnotify.c:129 idr_callback+0x32/0x56() (Not tainted) Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: Hardware name: OptiPlex 960 Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: inotify closing but id=0 for entry=ef4832c0 in group=f006f480 still in idr. Probably leaking memory Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: Modules linked in: fuse ipt_MASQUERADE bridge stp llc sunrpc cpufreq_ondemand acpi_cpufreq iptable_nat nf_nat iptable_mangle ip6t_REJECT nf_conntrack_ipv6 ip6table_filter ip6_tables ipv6 dm_multipath kvm uinput usblp snd_hda_codec_analog snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec snd_hwdep iTCO_wdt snd_seq iTCO_vendor_support e1000e snd_seq_device snd_pcm snd_timer serio_raw ppdev snd parport_pc i2c_i801 soundcore parport dcdbas snd_page_alloc wmi pata_acpi ata_generic nouveau ttm drm_kms_helper drm i2c_algo_bit i2c_core [last unloaded: microcode] Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: Pid: 2413, comm: imap Not tainted 2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.i686.PAE #1 Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: Call Trace: Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c043db4b] warn_slowpath_common+0x70/0x87 Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c04ede48] ? idr_callback+0x32/0x56 Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c043dba0] warn_slowpath_fmt+0x29/0x2c Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c04ede48] idr_callback+0x32/0x56 Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c059ee84] idr_for_each+0x5c/0x97 Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c04ede16] ? idr_callback+0x0/0x56 Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c04ec4fc] ? fsnotify_put_event+0x48/0x4b Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c04ede05] inotify_free_group_priv+0x1a/0x2b Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c04ec5db] fsnotify_final_destroy_group+0x1e/0x28 Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c04ec69f] fsnotify_put_group+0x75/0x78 Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c04edfbd] inotify_release+0x1e/0x28 Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c04c9dbf] __fput+0xed/0x184 Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c04c9e6e] fput+0x18/0x1a Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c04c7311] filp_close+0x56/0x60 Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c04c737b] sys_close+0x60/0x8f Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: [c0408fbb] sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x28 Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: ---[ end trace 934d4ab904d334bf ]--- Jan 30 14:17:03 home1 kernel: entry-group=(null) inode=(null) wd=1024 Jan 30 14:17:52 home1 named[1064]: client 127.0.0.1#36927: RFC 1918 response from Internet for 1.122.168.192.in-addr.arpa Jan 30 14:18:17 home1 abrt: Kerneloops: Reported 1 kernel oopses to Abrt Jan 30 14:18:17 home1 abrtd: Directory 'kerneloops-1264861097-1' creation detected Jan 30 14:18:17 home1 abrtd: Getting local universal unique identification Jan 30 14:18:17 home1 abrtd: New crash, saving Jan 30 14:18:17 home1 abrtd: RunApp('/var/cache/abrt/kerneloops-1264861097-1','test x`cat component` = xxorg-x11-server-Xorg cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log .') Jan 30 14:18:17 home1 abrtd: Getting local universal unique identification Jan 30 14:18:54 home1 named[1064]: client 127.0.0.1#53596: RFC 1918 response from Internet for 1.122.168.192.in-addr.arpa Jan 30 14:19:55 home1 abrtd: Getting crash infos... Jan 30 14:19:56 home1 named[1064]: client 127.0.0.1#44889: RFC 1918 response from Internet for 1.122.168.192.in-addr.arpa Jan 30 14:20:12 home1 abrtd: Creating report... Jan 30 14:20:12 home1 abrtd: Getting local universal unique identification Jan 30 14:20:12 home1 abrtd: Getting local universal unique identification Anyone interpret this for me? Tnanks -- View this message in context: http://n3.nabble.com/Kernel-crash-message-in-F12-anyone-explain-tp178722p178722.html Sent from the Fedora Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
statserial tarball
Greetings folks; It appears that statserial will almost do what I want, although without the blinkenlites I was looking for. However its refresh rate of once a second is about 10x too slow, so I think I'm missing some flow control events. Where can I find a tarball of the most recent version, google seems to only hit on ready to run rpms debs. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Pardon this fortune. Database under reconstruction. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: statserial tarball
On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 15:05 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: Where can I find a tarball of the most recent version, google seems to only hit on ready to run rpms debs. If you can find a srpm, just download that and extract the tarball from there. Bonus: You get a working spec file out of it and can therefore (usually) build yourself a new, modified, srpm with minimal effort if you want to. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: statserial tarball
On 10-01-30 15:05:55, Gene Heskett wrote: ... Where can I find a tarball of the most recent version, google seems to only hit on ready to run rpms debs. `rpm -qi statserial` and look at the URL: line. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora12 Release Notes.
Ed Greshko wrote: I enjoy the entire 496 page document that has a comprehensive index which makes it easy for me to locate change information on the subjects most important to me. I entirely appreciate the amount of time and effort it took those responsible to create this fine document. How nice to see a Fedora document! I used to refer to similar documents back in the days of Red Hat 5+. When looking for help on the web, invariably web sites will have extensive mention of how to do things on Ubuntu, but Fedora is Cinderella to her Ubuntu step-sister. In quickly scanning through the document, I noticed 2 errors: the virtual terminal description at the beginning says that the graphical terminal is on ctrl-alt-f7; and in the description of /etc/inittab, it talks about ctrl-alt-delete, giving a dated description. I am glad that this document is finally available and, no doubt, it will be corrected and will show how things are done on Fedora nowadays. This is important, as Fedora has evolved hugely, being a cutting edge distribution, and things have changed a lot since the early days of Linux. A reliable and up-to-date reference is essential and will fill the gaps that the web does not. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Mount point for Windows shares?
When I connect to a Windows share via the Places-Connect to Server menu, I can see the share in Gnome, but I can't find it anywhere in the file system from a terminal window. Where is the mount point for such a share? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Document Viewer can not open latest PDF?
Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:59:39 -0500 Mail Lists wrote: That is plain silly - it should call itself what it is - evince. People have tried to fight that fight before to no avail :-). I finally learned all the menu entries are stashed under /usr/share/applications/ and grep in there when I want to find the actual name for an app. That and putting in some hacked fork of cdrecord, I think it's called woeful, instead of the real thing. In general things should appear under their real name for purposes of knowing where the bugs are and what you're really using. It's like asking for Coke and getting Pepsi, no matter how great someone else thinks it is, it's not what you asked for, wanted, or thought it was. ;-( -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora12 Release Notes.
Ed Greshko wrote: r...@dwf.com wrote: What has happened to the concept of release notes that a person could actually print down and read? Previous releases have had Release Notes that were mabe 20 pages long, with a sentence or two about each change. I looked at the Release Notes for Fedora12, and its a 500page PDF document. Now thats way longer than I want to print, since I would never read it all, and there is no way Im going to read more than a page or two of it online. So basically, someone has spent a lot of time, generating a very nice looking document, which I am sure has a lot of good information in it, but we need something more compact. Something I can read in 10minutes. As it stands, I have to assume that I, and everyone else just ignores these Release Notes. Too bad. Well, you can count me out in your assumption. I enjoy the entire 496 page document that has a comprehensive index which makes it easy for me to locate change information on the subjects most important to me. I entirely appreciate the amount of time and effort it took those responsible to create this fine document. I wouldn't want to see less information in the release notes. I'm impressed that someone went to the effort to list all of the upstream URLs and have found that to be of great value to me. Obviously you have lots of time to fill. I would be a lot happier with a list of what changes and a sentence or two describing the new version or pointing to great detail if I want or need it. If you are looking at will this change effect me you don't want War and Peace you want the Cliff Notes or less. Besides, I don't know how anyone could create a document which would contain all the information that conforms to each individual's 10 minute attention span. Any document that short would certainly leave out information important to someone. In many cases you don't want or need that level of detail. Updated to vx.y.z may be sufficient. A few pages allow reading on the train, in boring meetings if you sit properly in the back, and in lots of places where a laptop would be out of place, like a chain restaurant or even in the can. FWIW, I can't remember the last time I printed a even a 10 page document. Old age creeps up on all of us. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Document Viewer can not open latest PDF?
On 01/30/2010 04:34 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: It's like asking for Coke and getting Pepsi, no matter how great someone else thinks it is, it's not what you asked for, wanted, or thought it was. ;-( They are both soft drinks .. so in fact you got Dr Pepper - same color also a drink ... 8=) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: NVIDIA: no sound to TV via HDMI
aOn Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Mikkel mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: On 01/29/2010 05:49 PM, Marcel Rieux wrote: Oups! This message was sent before it was completed. On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Mikkel mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: So, you were right. On the motherboard, the sockets and the labelling are dephased. ---[SNIP]- So, the S/PDIF wire is now in the right plug and... sound still doesn't get out on the TV. Maybe this has to do with Alsamixer defaulting on Default, with only has a setting for Master. This corresponds to the setting in the GNOME top panel. If I press F6, my integrated audio card appears as 0 - HDA ATI SB I make all my settings, but it has not effect: it seems the Default is always enabled. Make sure you have the polarity correct on your jumper. Hooking it up backwards can damage the video card and/or the sound card. What's the way to know polarity is correct, except trying both positions? For now, the arrow on the plug is facing outwards. Then check your Pulse Audio settings to make sure you have the digital output enabled. This has already been covered in this thread... You wrote: If you have selected to use only the digital output, you are NOT going to get sound out of the analog outputs on your computer. You do know that you can not hook speakers directly to the digital output, right? ... but i suppose that's not it. I right clicked on the Speaker in the top panel, and tried every setting with digital in it: it doesn't work. I set alsamixer to have both analog and digital S/PDIF output enabled, then only digital out. No result. I suppose it is normal that you can't rise the volume since the TV controls the volume, the HDMI cable feeding a preamp signal. Please note that, since Twinview doesn't work, I use 2 Xscreens. It's not possible, for instance, to run Firefox or any other applications on both screens at the same time. It's impossible to have the notification area on the TV. So, I can only hope that the settings in the notification area are valid on the TV. But it seems so since what is in Klipper -- that I use with GNOME -- can be copied to gedit on the TV screen. So, this seems OK. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: statserial tarball
On Saturday 30 January 2010, Frank Cox wrote: On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 15:05 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: Where can I find a tarball of the most recent version, google seems to only hit on ready to run rpms debs. If you can find a srpm, just download that and extract the tarball from there. Bonus: You get a working spec file out of it and can therefore (usually) build yourself a new, modified, srpm with minimal effort if you want to. The only src rpm I found googling was for an older version unless I'm going blind, damned cataracts are beginning to bloom though. Thanks Frank. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) What a wonder is USENET; such wholesale production of conjecture from such a trifling investment in fact. -- Carl S. Gutekunst -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Between F11 and F12, which would you choose?
On 01/30/2010 10:14 AM, Alan Cox wrote: The question remains: Do you just want to experiment and incur the problems that require expertise to fix, or do you want to use the os to drive applications which achieve results, if the latter then stick with Fedora 11. 12 is visually much nicer, and has some good improvements - but I think that's good advice. The FC12 virtualisation still crashes (in bugzilla getting debugged) and there are some other rough edges. Agreed. Give it time and it will be a winner, but then Fedora 13 or 14 will be up and running. This is why I look into upgrading a production os every 2nd or 3rd version and just play around with the latest version getting the hang of it's new attributes and capabilities. R -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: statserial tarball
On Saturday 30 January 2010, Tony Nelson wrote: On 10-01-30 15:05:55, Gene Heskett wrote: ... Where can I find a tarball of the most recent version, google seems to only hit on ready to run rpms debs. `rpm -qi statserial` and look at the URL: line. That is what I was looking for but it won't give it to me, using gFTP here: And then, while I was typing the above line preparatory to doing a copy paste from the gFTP screen, it went back and got it after a first failure, Odd. But it looks like I got it now, thank you very much! -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If bankers can count, how come they have eight windows and only four tellers? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Document Viewer can not open latest PDF?
On Saturday 30 January 2010, Mail Lists wrote: On 01/30/2010 04:34 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: It's like asking for Coke and getting Pepsi, no matter how great someone else thinks it is, it's not what you asked for, wanted, or thought it was. ;-( They are both soft drinks .. so in fact you got Dr Pepper - same color also a drink ... 8=) Yup, they are all sorta wet, and all loaded with enough aspartame to kill a lab rat, but if I ask for a diet coke and get something else, somebodies gonna wear it it isn't going to be me... -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) World War Three can be averted by adherence to a strictly enforced dress code! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora12 Release Notes.
Bill Davidsen wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: Well, you can count me out in your assumption. I enjoy the entire 496 page document that has a comprehensive index which makes it easy for me to locate change information on the subjects most important to me. I entirely appreciate the amount of time and effort it took those responsible to create this fine document. I wouldn't want to see less information in the release notes. I'm impressed that someone went to the effort to list all of the upstream URLs and have found that to be of great value to me. Obviously you have lots of time to fill. I would be a lot happier with a list of what changes and a sentence or two describing the new version or pointing to great detail if I want or need it. If you are looking at will this change effect me you don't want War and Peace you want the Cliff Notes or less. That is a totally incorrect observation. I don't have lots of time to fill. I only scan the document and use the index to find what I need at the time that I need it. Besides, I don't know how anyone could create a document which would contain all the information that conforms to each individual's 10 minute attention span. Any document that short would certainly leave out information important to someone. In many cases you don't want or need that level of detail. Updated to vx.y.z may be sufficient. A few pages allow reading on the train, in boring meetings if you sit properly in the back, and in lots of places where a laptop would be out of place, like a chain restaurant or even in the can. You have missed my point entirely. I love this document since it is a one stop shop. I may not need all the information now nor need that level of detail now. But, in the event I do need information Q or details on Q there is a single point of reference. Saves time and effort. Now, you may not operate in that way. And. I could make an obvious observation about your poor study habits...but that would be wrong. FWIW, I can't remember the last time I printed a even a 10 page document. Old age creeps up on all of us. I certainly hope that is an attempt at humor as I am sure you know exactly what I mean to convey there. However, in the event you don't know *I* haven't printed a document longer than 4 pages in over 3 years. Last month, however, I inadvertently started to print a web page that was over 7 pages long. (Went directly to a URL which landed me in the middle of the page and didn't notice it at 3:45AM) As soon as I heard the printer doing more than expected I went to the room with the printer and killed the job. To make it even more clearas a personal rule *I* avoid printing documents that *I* can easily read at my computer. -- I've figured out an alternative to giving up my beer. Basically, we become a family of traveling acrobats. -- Homer Simpson Dog of Death signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: statserial tarball
On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 17:03 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: The only src rpm I found googling was for an older version unless I'm going blind, damned cataracts are beginning to bloom though. Is this what you're looking for, or is it the older version that you mention above? (I just picked a Fedora mirror site and looked in the F12 srpm directory.) http://www.muug.mb.ca/pub/fedora/linux/releases/12/Everything/source/SRPMS/statserial-1.1-43.fc12.src.rpm -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora12 Release Notes.
On 30/01/10 22:15, Ed Greshko wrote: --snip-- To make it even more clearas a personal rule *I* avoid printing documents that *I* can easily read at my computer. Or, im my case that can be copied to my iRex eReader. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: statserial tarball
On Saturday 30 January 2010, Tony Nelson wrote: On 10-01-30 15:05:55, Gene Heskett wrote: ... Where can I find a tarball of the most recent version, google seems to only hit on ready to run rpms debs. `rpm -qi statserial` and look at the URL: line. Got it, won't build, needs curses, not ncurses. Is there a fix for that, all the ncurses stuff is installed, and I just added cdk-devel but that didn't help either. Ideas anyone? Thanks -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) DeVries' Dilemma: If you hit two keys on the typewriter, the one you don't want hits the paper. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: statserial tarball
On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 17:34 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: Ideas anyone? Try compiling the (unmodified) srpm from the f12 srpm directory and see what occurs. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
QTParted - normal behaviour or BZ?
Evening All, Just tried to run QTParted on my F11-KDE desktop. If I click on the internal Linux formatted HDD, all is well. If I click on my external HDD (still NTFS), QTParted starts to look at the drive, then vanishes. Tried running it from Konsole got the message that QTParted is not yet able to work on NTFS partitions. Question: is it correct/normal behaviour for an app just to vanish, rather than to give an error indication? Should it be BZed? Dave -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: statserial tarball
On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 17:58 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: WTH? It put it in /root/rpmbuild. Whodathunkit. Ok, cd'd to /root/rpmbuild. man rpmbuild I suppose. You're complicating things far more than they need to be. yum install rpmdevtools rpmdev-setuptree rpmbuild --rebuild whatever.src.rpm cd ~/rpmbuild See the RPMS, SOURCES, SPECS and SRPMS subdirectories. Look inside for stuff. Read the rpmbuild manpage for many other wonderful things, such as -bb using a spec file (in the SPECS directory, of course) to create a new rpm and srpm after modifying stuff in SOURCES. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: QTParted - normal behaviour or BZ?
On 30Jan2010 23:58, DB freddog...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: | Just tried to run QTParted on my F11-KDE desktop. If I click on the | internal Linux formatted HDD, all is well. | | If I click on my external HDD (still NTFS), QTParted starts to look at | the drive, then vanishes. Tried running it from Konsole got the | message that QTParted is not yet able to work on NTFS partitions. | | Question: is it correct/normal behaviour for an app just to vanish, | rather than to give an error indication? Only statisticly. Someone's been a bit lazy. Of course it should give an error indication. | Should it be BZed? BZed? -- Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ When you're no longer frightened, it's time to retire. - Mercenary proverb -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
ProFTP Glitch
When trying to do an /etc/init.d/proftpd start on my Fedora 11 box, I am getting a return of Failed. I can find no service which might be interfering and no log file anywhere showing me an error. Any Ideas? Thanks Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: QTParted - normal behaviour or BZ?
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 2:58 PM, DB freddog...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Question: is it correct/normal behaviour for an app just to vanish, rather than to give an error indication? Should it be BZed? It *does* give an error message. Your argument is instead that it should produce a shiny dialog box that you have to click on, vs a terse announcement on STDERR. If it's *supposed* to produce that shiny dialog box (quick look at source will tell you), and it doesn't, then it should have a bug filed against it with Fedora. If it's not supposed to, and you think it should, then it's an upstream request. -- Marc Wilson m...@cox.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Mount point for Windows shares?
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Zbigniew Fiedorowicz fiedo...@math.ohio-state.edu wrote: When I connect to a Windows share via the Places-Connect to Server menu, I can see the share in Gnome, but I can't find it anywhere in the file system from a terminal window. Where is the mount point for such a share? There isn't one. Isn't GVFS fun? -- Marc Wilson m...@cox.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Document Viewer can not open latest PDF?
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote: That and putting in some hacked fork of cdrecord, I think it's called woeful, instead of the real thing. No, that's a licensing problem. CDRecord's license is incompatible with the GPL. In general things should appear under their real name for purposes of knowing where the bugs are and what you're really using. No, in general the belief is that it's better for an application to appear as what it *does*, rather than what it *is*, so that stupid people are empowered. People to whom it matters should know how to change it anyway. Not that I care about evince at all... that's what Adobe Reader is for. -- Marc Wilson m...@cox.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Mount point for Windows shares?
On 31 January 2010 00:36, Marc Wilson m...@cox.net wrote: On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Zbigniew Fiedorowicz fiedo...@math.ohio-state.edu wrote: When I connect to a Windows share via the Places-Connect to Server menu, I can see the share in Gnome, but I can't find it anywhere in the file system from a terminal window. Where is the mount point for such a share? There isn't one. Isn't GVFS fun? Err... have you looked under the .gvfs directory in your home? [...@samlap ~]$ ll .gvfs total 0 drwx-- 1 sam users 0 2009-10-12 20:11 drobo01 on droboshare -- Sam -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Serial port (/dev/ttySX) question.
On 01/30/2010 06:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Q? This code uses the 'sleep(1)' call to time its repeat scans. It is using no cpu as its the bottom item on an htop sorted by use report. I assume I can go into the tarball and change those 2 sleep calls to sleep(0.05) to get 20 scans a second? I'm going to try it anyway see if it will still build. Nope - sleep only accepts an integer value. Using sleep, 1 second it the best you will get. Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
JFS native kernel support.
Greetings all, I was surprised by the performance JFS in Ubuntu 10.04 alpha on my laptop. As I understand it everything is fine with the license and JFS also works with SELinux. Why drop support for JFS from the kernel and made it as a module? I do not want to argue about that JFS is better or worse ext4/xfs/etc, I just want to know why when installing Fedora 12, I can not format the partition as JFS? Thank you! -- With Best Regards, Vitaliy T. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re:Testing sound?
Ed Greshko wrote: The sound on my Thinkpad T43 (model 1871-12G) sometimes works, and sometimes does not work. However, I'm not really asking about this, but rather: Is there a simple way of testing if sound is working? I'm running Fedora-12/KDE, and looked at System Settings= Look and Feel=Notifications , but did not really understand how one is supposed to use this. Is there a simple command-line test for sound? Go to Notifications as you have There is a pull down Event Source menuSelect Konsole Go to Bell in Non-Visible Session to copy the name of the file KDE-Sys-App-Message.ogg in the Play a Sound area. Then go to Bell in Visible Sessionpaste the name of the sound and check the Play a sound box. Then Apply From now on...if you hit backspace or make some sort of error a beep will be played. Thanks for the response. I tried this, but unfortunately did not get a peep out of it. I can play CDs with internal speaker or headphones, with Amarok or KsCD, but none of the Notifications seem to work. Is there any CLI command for making a noise from a .ogg file? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Document Viewer can not open latest PDF?
--- On Sat, 1/30/10, Marc Wilson m...@cox.net wrote: From: Marc Wilson m...@cox.net Subject: Re: Document Viewer can not open latest PDF? To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 4:41 PM On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote: That and putting in some hacked fork of cdrecord, I think it's called woeful, instead of the real thing. No, that's a licensing problem. CDRecord's license is incompatible with the GPL. It became incompatible with Debian, and thus the GPL :(, nothing said here will change it :( Fedora, OpenSuSE and others followed suit. They made a choice and that was to include the replacement. Like get a Pepsi (TM) instead of a Coke :) In general things should appear under their real name for purposes of knowing where the bugs are and what you're really using. No, in general the belief is that it's better for an application to appear as what it *does*, rather than what it *is*, so that stupid people are empowered. People to whom it matters should know how to change it anyway. Not that I care about evince at all... that's what Adobe Reader is for. Here Adobe Reader is *CLOSED SOURCE* and free alternatives like Evince and Okular are better for me IMHO. I don't want to deal with proprietary software and it(Adobe Reader) is not like cdrecord(original). Cdrecord(cdrtools) is opensource just like you mention, but GPL incompatible because of differences with the author and Debian's maintainers :( -- Best Regards, Antonio -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Serial port (/dev/ttySX) question.
On 01/30/2010 07:03 PM, Mikkel wrote: On 01/30/2010 06:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Q? This code uses the 'sleep(1)' call to time its repeat scans. It is using no cpu as its the bottom item on an htop sorted by use report. I assume I can go into the tarball and change those 2 sleep calls to sleep(0.05) to get 20 scans a second? I'm going to try it anyway see if it will still build. Nope - sleep only accepts an integer value. Using sleep, 1 second it the best you will get. Mikkel He probably wants usleep() which sleeps for microsecond intervals. -- Rod -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Serial port (/dev/ttySX) question.
On 01/30/2010 09:39 PM, Rod Haper wrote: On 01/30/2010 07:03 PM, Mikkel wrote: On 01/30/2010 06:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Q? This code uses the 'sleep(1)' call to time its repeat scans. It is using no cpu as its the bottom item on an htop sorted by use report. I assume I can go into the tarball and change those 2 sleep calls to sleep(0.05) to get 20 scans a second? I'm going to try it anyway see if it will still build. Nope - sleep only accepts an integer value. Using sleep, 1 second it the best you will get. Mikkel He probably wants usleep() which sleeps for microsecond intervals. -- Rod Or better yet nanosleep() which is more portable and up to date. -- Rod -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Yum update crashes
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 01:27:30PM -0500, Jim wrote: FC12-X86_64/KDE Yum update is crashing. I did a yum clean all, but that doesn't help. ]# yum update Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit fedora/primary_db | 12 MB 00:39 google-chrome | 951 B 00:00 google-chrome/primary | 1.8 kB 00:00 google-chrome 3/3 livna | 2.4 kB 00:00 livna/primary_db | 2.7 kB 00:00 rpmfusion-free | 3.8 kB 00:00 rpmfusion-free/primary_db | 344 kB 00:05 rpmfusion-free-updates | 3.3 kB 00:00 rpmfusion-free-updates/primary_db | 159 kB 00:00 rpmfusion-nonfree | 3.3 kB 00:00 rpmfusion-nonfree/primary_db | 91 kB 00:00 rpmfusion-nonfree-updates | 3.3 kB 00:00 rpmfusion-nonfree-updates/primary_db | 40 kB 00:00 updates/metalink | 14 kB 00:00 updates | 4.4 kB 00:00 updates/primary_db | 3.7 MB 00:16 Error: file is encrypted or is not a database This could be your yum history database getting corrupted. $ sudo rm -f /var/lib/yum/history/* (This will of course keep you from rolling back transactions from your history, as it'll be gone.) -- Matt Domsch Technology Strategist, Dell Office of the CTO linux.dell.com www.dell.com/linux -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Dell R710 Server and FC11
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 08:57:17PM +0800, Edward S.P. Leong wrote: Dear All, Would you mind to tell me does the DELL R710 Server and Raid Controller support with FC11 OS ? http://www1.ap.dell.com/hk/en/business/servers/server-poweredge-r710/pd.aspx?refid=server-poweredge-r710s=bsdcs=hkbsd1 Yes. Not that Dell officially supports such, but it works. Tools such as Dell OpenManage are not expected to work on Fedora. You just can't call Dell Technical Support with OS-related questions (you of course can call regarding hardware issues). You may also wish to join the linux-poweredge mailing list (http://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-poweredge) which is for system administrators of Dell PowerEdge servers. Thanks, Matt -- Matt Domsch Technology Strategist, Dell Office of the CTO linux.dell.com www.dell.com/linux -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Serial port (/dev/ttySX) question.
On Saturday 30 January 2010, Mikkel wrote: On 01/30/2010 06:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Q? This code uses the 'sleep(1)' call to time its repeat scans. It is using no cpu as its the bottom item on an htop sorted by use report. I assume I can go into the tarball and change those 2 sleep calls to sleep(0.05) to get 20 scans a second? I'm going to try it anyway see if it will still build. Nope - sleep only accepts an integer value. Using sleep, 1 second it the best you will get. Mikkel Ok, is there some other time waster with a finer resolution that can be subbed? Thanks Mikkel. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Type cat vmlinuz /dev/audio to hear the Voice of God. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Serial port (/dev/ttySX) question.
On Saturday 30 January 2010, Rod Haper wrote: On 01/30/2010 07:03 PM, Mikkel wrote: On 01/30/2010 06:25 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Q? This code uses the 'sleep(1)' call to time its repeat scans. It is using no cpu as its the bottom item on an htop sorted by use report. I assume I can go into the tarball and change those 2 sleep calls to sleep(0.05) to get 20 scans a second? I'm going to try it anyway see if it will still build. Nope - sleep only accepts an integer value. Using sleep, 1 second it the best you will get. Mikkel He probably wants usleep() which sleeps for microsecond intervals. -- Rod Precisely, a usleep(5) would be much better . And some man page studying for rpmbuild options. I tried to edit the .c source, but then it refused to build and that was not the error it spit out. We'll poke at it some more tomorrow unless I start plowing thru the sources I have for sc6551.asm to make that driver, for an H63C09 equipt trs-80 Color Computer 3, now running Nitros9. Specifically, I need rpmbuild to stop after unpacking and patching the tarball, giving me a chance to edit the .c file to change that, and then restart at the next step. I've been through the man page a couple of times, and how to do that hasn't exactly reached up and slapped me. Hints welcome of course. Thanks Rod. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) You will be divorced within a year. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: statserial tarball
On Saturday 30 January 2010, Frank Cox wrote: On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 17:58 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: WTH? It put it in /root/rpmbuild. Whodathunkit. Ok, cd'd to /root/rpmbuild. man rpmbuild I suppose. You're complicating things far more than they need to be. yum install rpmdevtools rpmdev-setuptree rpmbuild --rebuild whatever.src.rpm cd ~/rpmbuild See the RPMS, SOURCES, SPECS and SRPMS subdirectories. Look inside for stuff. Read the rpmbuild manpage for many other wonderful things, such as -bb using a spec file (in the SPECS directory, of course) to create a new rpm and srpm after modifying stuff in SOURCES. Thanks Frank, I'll see if I can make some headway in this tomorrow. -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Dreams are free, but you get soaked on the connect time. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Fedora12 Release Notes.
On 10-01-30 16:51:38, Bill Davidsen wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: ... I enjoy the entire 496 page document that has a comprehensive index which makes it easy for me to locate change information on the subjects most important to me. I entirely appreciate the amount of time and effort it took those responsible to create this fine document. I wouldn't want to see less information in the release notes. I'm impressed that someone went to the effort to list all of the upstream URLs and have found that to be of great value to me. Obviously you have lots of time to fill. I would be a lot happier with a list of what changes and a sentence or two describing the new version or pointing to great detail if I want or need it. If you are looking at will this change effect me you don't want War and Peace you want the Cliff Notes or less. ... The Release Notes are only 30 pages long. The other 469 pages are some other tabular documents that are glommed onto the end of the real Release Notes. -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: Re:Testing sound?
Timothy Murphy wrote: Ed Greshko wrote: The sound on my Thinkpad T43 (model 1871-12G) sometimes works, and sometimes does not work. However, I'm not really asking about this, but rather: Is there a simple way of testing if sound is working? I'm running Fedora-12/KDE, and looked at System Settings= Look and Feel=Notifications , but did not really understand how one is supposed to use this. Is there a simple command-line test for sound? Go to Notifications as you have There is a pull down Event Source menuSelect Konsole Go to Bell in Non-Visible Session to copy the name of the file KDE-Sys-App-Message.ogg in the Play a Sound area. Then go to Bell in Visible Sessionpaste the name of the sound and check the Play a sound box. Then Apply From now on...if you hit backspace or make some sort of error a beep will be played. Thanks for the response. I tried this, but unfortunately did not get a peep out of it. I can play CDs with internal speaker or headphones, with Amarok or KsCD, but none of the Notifications seem to work. Is there any CLI command for making a noise from a .ogg fil3 mplayer /usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-App-Message.ogg (or any .ogg file) works for me... -- Jesus saves...but Gretzky gets the rebound! -- Daniel Hinojosa (hinoj...@hp-sdd) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
Re: ProFTP Glitch
Mike Dwiggins wrote: When trying to do an /etc/init.d/proftpd start on my Fedora 11 box, I am getting a return of Failed. I can find no service which might be interfering and no log file anywhere showing me an error. Any Ideas? So, there are no messages like Jan 31 15:02:52 f12 proftpd[24615]: f12.greshko.com - ProFTPD 1.3.2c (maint) (built Thu Dec 10 18:41:21 EST 2009) standalone mode STARTUP in /var/log/messages? Try starting it from the command line as root /usr/sbin/proftpd -- History has a habit of changing the people who think they are changing it. (Mort) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines