Re: k3b , burning video

2013-04-06 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/07/13 06:56, Jim wrote:
> F18
>
> what video format does k3b burn,  mp4 etc. ?

As POC has already said, k3b just burns bits

Don't know what your trying to achieve...  But, taking a SWAG, you've got a 
video and what do made a DVD-Video that will play in an external DVD player.

FWIW, I use DeVeDe to create the ISO and then burn the ISO to DVD media.

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FC18 kernel command lines

2013-04-06 Thread Bill Davidsen

Two simple suggestions for install, upgrade, etc.

1 - fix the kernel command line options, I think one was console font, replace 
the ones which the kernel labels as "obsolete" and/or "archaic" with something 
which works silently with the kernels installed.


2 - for reasons religious, political, or egotistical, Fedora doesn't use working 
vendor video drivers for chips sets identified as nVidia, ATI, Radeon, etc. 
Would it be too much to ask to always without fail provide a boot line using 
VESA driver for display, and rather than do whatever is current, use a screen 
size large enough to hold some minimum number of characters? The install on one 
netbook picked 320x200 for screen resolution, and it seems the vga= option is no 
longer supported (maybe just vga=ask). In any case, the default kernel drivers 
for these video cards only work right on a subset of chips, and a lot of users 
don't know, and don't want to know, how to edit the kernel command line in the 
middle of the boot sequence to overcome the issue.


3 - I know of no way to tell if "nomodeset" will make things better or worse, so 
I make no suggestion other than users who know how to edit the kernel command 
line can try inverting that option (remove if present, add if not) if all else 
fails to initialize the video at boot.


I'm sure these suggestions for improvement will be flamed as criticism, followed 
by the users of the subset of working chips claiming that the drivers are fixed 
because it works on their hardware.


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Re: k3b , burning video

2013-04-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 18:56 -0400, Jim wrote:
> F18
> 
> what video format does k3b burn,  mp4 etc. ?

The question as it stands is meaningless. K3B just burns bits. It
distinguishes between audio CDs and everything else, but that's all. If
you need to convert something to a specific video format, you need
something like ffmpeg or transcode to produce the bits. Then K3B will
happily burn them to a medium.

poc

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Re: FedUp

2013-04-06 Thread Bill Davidsen

Max Pyziur wrote:

On Sat, 6 Apr 2013, Phil Dobbin wrote:


On 04/06/2013 03:56 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:


On 04/06/2013 03:05 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote:

Hi, all.

I've been away for some weeks & am now back so I'm looking at
possibilities for upgrading 17 -> 18 seeing as 17 will be EOL in around
eight to ten weeks.

After the initial problems with FedUp, I read last night over on
Bugzilla about its progress & the latest testing (which looks like it's
going to go stable next week) is looking pretty solid.

So the question is, is everybody been happy with the upgrade process via
FedUp lately?


No. I gave up on it after it failed miserably on a couple of test
upgrades in the early phases of f18. May-be it has seen improvements
since then, but I didn't look back at it, since then, because I found
the procedures outlined on
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_17_-.3E_Fedora_18



Specifically at this link, there's a link to a  wonderful  script
which does the tedious work of getting you from F17-> F18:
https://github.com/xsuchy/fedora-upgrade

It's in the fine-print there beginning with the words "A small script..."


I can't say that I'm worried that this hasn't been through QA, after all fedup 
*has*


MP



so far worked reliably.


Thanks to everybody for their answers.

Just for the sake of reporting any findings to Bugzilla, I'll attempt
another upgrade via FedUp in a VM but I think I'll upgrade the machine
in question using yum.

It's a shame. I went from 12 sequentially through to 17 using preupgrade
without a single hitch.

Cheers,

 Phil...





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Re: FedUp

2013-04-06 Thread Bill Davidsen

Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 06.04.2013 16:41, schrieb Mihamina Rakotomandimby:

On 2013-04-06 17:11, Richard Shaw wrote:

 So the question is, is everybody been happy with the upgrade process via
 FedUp lately?
For me no. I've tried it twice for F-17->18 and both times it was a
complete disaster.


I made a fresh install for my F17 -> F18 upgrade


that's not the question

Well, the question was not "what did you do instead," so Mihamina at least did 
at least provide an answer to the yes/no original question.



you can avoid Fedup easily by a yum-upgrade, the instructions are
clear and working fine since many years/releases and not preupgrade
nor fedup nor re-install where needed at least since Fedorfa Core 3

The instructions which you mentioned without saying where you found such clear 
guidance. If you're going to help, post a link to what you feel is useful. I 
know what you're talking about, but I haven't found that just diddling yum will 
run anything to handle required changes in config file, depending on hardware.


For the record, NO I am not happy with fedup, I have never yet had it work in 
any sensible way, or produce any useful system after running. I admit that I 
don't have a lot of systems with nothing but a Fedora install on it, and not all 
my systems use the default file layout, but an upgrade of any kind should use 
what's there.


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Re: k3b , burning video

2013-04-06 Thread Richard Vickery
On Apr 6, 2013 7:29 PM, "Dick Roark"  wrote:
>
> As far as I know, whatever is burned to disk is determined by the data
file (MP4 or anything else.)
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Jim  wrote:
>>
>> F18
>>
>> what video format does k3b burn,  mp4 etc. ?
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I used to use k3b, and if memory serves, it is possible to bitten in
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Re: Disability relief

2013-04-06 Thread Frank McCormick

On 04/06/2013 08:06 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote:

On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 18:42 +, Beartooth wrote:

I need cursor symbols that my antiquated eyeballs can spot even
through trifocals. Last time I had a machine running CentOS (6.2 iirc) I
had managed to get a big yellow arrow to show the mouse cursor. It was
wonderful.

Now I have machines running Fedora (17 & 18) and Puppy (5.0) --
and even with eyes on two panels I have an awful time spotting the mouse
cursor. Can anyone tell me a way to get my arrow back??


Not sure how to change arrows, but if you're using gnome-shell, you can
install gnome-tweak-tool and under the mouse settings, you can set the
cursor to highlight with a ripple effect when you press the control key.
It's nice when the mouse is in a corner or the cursor is a vertical bar,
and maybe helpful in your case as well.



 If you're running Gnome.try these:

 http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Big+Arrow?content=155650


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Unable to install F18 into an existing linux partitions.

2013-04-06 Thread Dan Thurman

I was not able to install F18 via LiveCD/Anaconda
as it appears to insist on (unformatted) free space.

I was able to install F17 with anaconda, which
allowed me to specify the /boot and / software
destination having two partitions wiped out by
newly reformatting them while installing.

In F18, one has a choice to choose LVM, BRFS(?), or
Partition schemes, so I choose the Partition
scheme, checked that I wanted no help, to
manually modify and/or define the software
destination and hovering the cursor over 2nd
button, the highlight says: "Please wait... software
metadata is being loaded" and nothing happens for
over 30 minutes of waiting.

I do not want to use the 'reclaim' button because
this might mess up the partition table and screw
the entire disk.

I also noted that while waiting, I was able to set
the locale, but not allowed to change the date,
time nor 12/24 hour selections, they are greyed out,
even though I was able to do this on the time/date
menubar but this has nothing to do with anaconda.

So, what can I do at this point?

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Re: Dracut on reboot

2013-04-06 Thread Joe Zeff

On 04/06/2013 03:47 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:

I have little understanding of what I am looking for. Is there some way
to call systemctl, get the same information, and paste this information
here in an email for someone to look at? and perhaps let me know what to
look for?



If you're logged in as root, you can redirect the output to a file, like 
this:


systemctl status foo.service > foo.txt

which would put it into /root/foo.txt.  Then, you can copy the contents 
of the file into your message after you've rebooted correctly.

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Re: k3b , burning video

2013-04-06 Thread Dick Roark
As far as I know, whatever is burned to disk is determined by the data file
(MP4 or anything else.)


On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Jim  wrote:

> F18
>
> what video format does k3b burn,  mp4 etc. ?
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Re: Disability relief

2013-04-06 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Sat, 2013-04-06 at 18:42 +, Beartooth wrote: 
>   I need cursor symbols that my antiquated eyeballs can spot even
> through trifocals. Last time I had a machine running CentOS (6.2 iirc) I 
> had managed to get a big yellow arrow to show the mouse cursor. It was 
> wonderful.
> 
>   Now I have machines running Fedora (17 & 18) and Puppy (5.0) --
> and even with eyes on two panels I have an awful time spotting the mouse 
> cursor. Can anyone tell me a way to get my arrow back??
> 

Not sure how to change arrows, but if you're using gnome-shell, you can
install gnome-tweak-tool and under the mouse settings, you can set the
cursor to highlight with a ripple effect when you press the control key.
It's nice when the mouse is in a corner or the cursor is a vertical bar,
and maybe helpful in your case as well.

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k3b , burning video

2013-04-06 Thread Jim

F18

what video format does k3b burn,  mp4 etc. ?
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Dracut on reboot

2013-04-06 Thread Richard Vickery
Hi Gang,

A number of times f18 has become stuck for so long that I felt it necessary
to call the command reboot. Certain times a dracut command line shows up
and I call systemctl, which shows what it does, and with little-to-no
current technical training, I have little understanding of what I am
looking for. Is there some way to call systemctl, get the same information,
and paste this information here in an email for someone to look at? and
perhaps let me know what to look for?

Thanks

Richard
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Re: FedUp

2013-04-06 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 04/06/2013 09:28 PM, Max Pyziur wrote:

> On Sat, 6 Apr 2013, Phil Dobbin wrote:
> 
>> On 04/06/2013 03:56 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/06/2013 03:05 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote:
 Hi, all.

 I've been away for some weeks & am now back so I'm looking at
 possibilities for upgrading 17 -> 18 seeing as 17 will be EOL in around
 eight to ten weeks.

 After the initial problems with FedUp, I read last night over on
 Bugzilla about its progress & the latest testing (which looks like it's
 going to go stable next week) is looking pretty solid.

 So the question is, is everybody been happy with the upgrade process
 via
 FedUp lately?
>>>
>>> No. I gave up on it after it failed miserably on a couple of test
>>> upgrades in the early phases of f18. May-be it has seen improvements
>>> since then, but I didn't look back at it, since then, because I found
>>> the procedures outlined on
>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_17_-.3E_Fedora_18
>>>
> 
> Specifically at this link, there's a link to a  wonderful  script
> which does the tedious work of getting you from F17-> F18:
> https://github.com/xsuchy/fedora-upgrade
> 
> It's in the fine-print there beginning with the words "A small script..."


Thanks for that. That does look interesting.

Has the yum upgrade procedure changed recently? I swear it used to be
more involved than what I've just read on the Wiki.

Cheers,

  Phil...

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Re: Disability relief

2013-04-06 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/07/13 02:42, Beartooth wrote:
>   I need cursor symbols that my antiquated eyeballs can spot even
> through trifocals. Last time I had a machine running CentOS (6.2 iirc) I 
> had managed to get a big yellow arrow to show the mouse cursor. It was 
> wonderful.
>
>   Now I have machines running Fedora (17 & 18) and Puppy (5.0) --
> and even with eyes on two panels I have an awful time spotting the mouse 
> cursor. Can anyone tell me a way to get my arrow back??

And the DE you use?

In KDE it is easy to install cursor themes

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Re: FedUp

2013-04-06 Thread Gary Artim
I upgraded 11 desktop and 5 servers and the biggest problem I had was one
of the servers did not do the switch properly to fc18 and had to jump
through hoops, to big to explain, but got it installed. Another did not
switch kernels and had to yum indstall it  All but one where single o/s
machine, one was lib-virt kvm image and it upgraded fine.


On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Max Pyziur  wrote:

> On Sat, 6 Apr 2013, Phil Dobbin wrote:
>
>  On 04/06/2013 03:56 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>>
>>  On 04/06/2013 03:05 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote:
>>>
 Hi, all.

 I've been away for some weeks & am now back so I'm looking at
 possibilities for upgrading 17 -> 18 seeing as 17 will be EOL in around
 eight to ten weeks.

 After the initial problems with FedUp, I read last night over on
 Bugzilla about its progress & the latest testing (which looks like it's
 going to go stable next week) is looking pretty solid.

 So the question is, is everybody been happy with the upgrade process via
 FedUp lately?

>>>
>>> No. I gave up on it after it failed miserably on a couple of test
>>> upgrades in the early phases of f18. May-be it has seen improvements
>>> since then, but I didn't look back at it, since then, because I found
>>> the procedures outlined on
>>> https://fedoraproject.org/**wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_**
>>> yum#Fedora_17_-.3E_Fedora_18
>>>
>>
> Specifically at this link, there's a link to a  wonderful  script
> which does the tedious work of getting you from F17-> F18:
> https://github.com/xsuchy/**fedora-upgrade
>
> It's in the fine-print there beginning with the words "A small script..."
>
> MP
>
>
>
>  so far worked reliably.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks to everybody for their answers.
>>
>> Just for the sake of reporting any findings to Bugzilla, I'll attempt
>> another upgrade via FedUp in a VM but I think I'll upgrade the machine
>> in question using yum.
>>
>> It's a shame. I went from 12 sequentially through to 17 using preupgrade
>> without a single hitch.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>  Phil...
>>
>>
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Re: FedUp

2013-04-06 Thread Max Pyziur

On Sat, 6 Apr 2013, Phil Dobbin wrote:


On 04/06/2013 03:56 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:


On 04/06/2013 03:05 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote:

Hi, all.

I've been away for some weeks & am now back so I'm looking at
possibilities for upgrading 17 -> 18 seeing as 17 will be EOL in around
eight to ten weeks.

After the initial problems with FedUp, I read last night over on
Bugzilla about its progress & the latest testing (which looks like it's
going to go stable next week) is looking pretty solid.

So the question is, is everybody been happy with the upgrade process via
FedUp lately?


No. I gave up on it after it failed miserably on a couple of test
upgrades in the early phases of f18. May-be it has seen improvements
since then, but I didn't look back at it, since then, because I found
the procedures outlined on
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_17_-.3E_Fedora_18


Specifically at this link, there's a link to a  wonderful  script
which does the tedious work of getting you from F17-> F18:
https://github.com/xsuchy/fedora-upgrade

It's in the fine-print there beginning with the words "A small script..."

MP



so far worked reliably.


Thanks to everybody for their answers.

Just for the sake of reporting any findings to Bugzilla, I'll attempt
another upgrade via FedUp in a VM but I think I'll upgrade the machine
in question using yum.

It's a shame. I went from 12 sequentially through to 17 using preupgrade
without a single hitch.

Cheers,

 Phil...



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Disability relief

2013-04-06 Thread Beartooth

I need cursor symbols that my antiquated eyeballs can spot even
through trifocals. Last time I had a machine running CentOS (6.2 iirc) I 
had managed to get a big yellow arrow to show the mouse cursor. It was 
wonderful.

Now I have machines running Fedora (17 & 18) and Puppy (5.0) --
and even with eyes on two panels I have an awful time spotting the mouse 
cursor. Can anyone tell me a way to get my arrow back??

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Re: FedUp

2013-04-06 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA

On 06/04/13 10:56, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
No. I gave up on it after it failed miserably on a couple of test 
upgrades in the early phases of f18. May-be it has seen improvements 
since then, but I didn't look back at it, since then, because I found 
the procedures outlined on
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_17_-.3E_Fedora_18 


so far worked reliably.

Ralf
I just tried the procedure offered there to upgrade F18/64 XFCE to F19 
and it appears to have produced a working system. I rebooted and tried 
most applications, everything appears to work as it did before the 
upgrade even though it's not a released version.


The process is simple enough, it took some time, must have been more 
than an hour, I went to town to pick up horse feed while it ran and it 
was still finishing when I got back.


From my one try I would say the upgrade method is the easiest I've 
tried, no reconfiguration to mess with!


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Re: Avoiding LVM -

2013-04-06 Thread Joe Zeff

On 04/06/2013 08:07 AM, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote:

and one that has a substantially higher likelihood of failure than a hard 
drive. It was a bad recommendation on so many levels. Anyone who entrusts their 
only copy of a valued file to a USB flash drive is certain to learn a lesson 
the hard way.


Only copy?  What ever gave you that idea?  Only a working copy to use 
while traveling.

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Re: FedUp

2013-04-06 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 04/06/2013 03:56 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:

> On 04/06/2013 03:05 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote:
>> Hi, all.
>>
>> I've been away for some weeks & am now back so I'm looking at
>> possibilities for upgrading 17 -> 18 seeing as 17 will be EOL in around
>> eight to ten weeks.
>>
>> After the initial problems with FedUp, I read last night over on
>> Bugzilla about its progress & the latest testing (which looks like it's
>> going to go stable next week) is looking pretty solid.
>>
>> So the question is, is everybody been happy with the upgrade process via
>> FedUp lately?
> 
> No. I gave up on it after it failed miserably on a couple of test
> upgrades in the early phases of f18. May-be it has seen improvements
> since then, but I didn't look back at it, since then, because I found
> the procedures outlined on
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_17_-.3E_Fedora_18
> 
> so far worked reliably.

Thanks to everybody for their answers.

Just for the sake of reporting any findings to Bugzilla, I'll attempt
another upgrade via FedUp in a VM but I think I'll upgrade the machine
in question using yum.

It's a shame. I went from 12 sequentially through to 17 using preupgrade
without a single hitch.

Cheers,

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Re: Avoiding LVM -

2013-04-06 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 06 April 2013, j.witvl...@mindef.nl sent:
> So, a better advise is to simply encrypt the entire disk,

Yes.

> And to keep sensitive info on an _also_ encrypted mem-stick. 

Dunno.  It's got to be much easier to lose a memory stick than an entire
computer.  Or, to put that another way, much easier to not notice that
you've lost a memory stick.  Whether that be accident or theft.

Considering the unreliability of memory sticks (due to read/write
wear-out, easy physical damage to the stick, etc.), I still only
consider them for their original selling point:  Like a large temporary
disc drive for playing sneakernet, or temporary secondary access to
files away from where they're really stored.

I certainly wouldn't use them as a back-up storage device, nor as a the
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Re: Avoiding LVM -

2013-04-06 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 06.04.2013 17:07, schrieb j.witvl...@mindef.nl:
> If you worry about failures (loosing) the mem stick, perhaps you can put the 
> encrypted image on your own web-site...
> Or keep an "dd"-copy of the stick in "/tmp/random.tmp" 

and wonder that it is gone after tmpwatch has cleand /tmp
or with F18 defaults you have it even as tmpfs nd lost at
shutdown

when have people lost enough data to realize that /tmp is
NOT a datastorage or at least stop give such stupid hints?



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Re: FedUp

2013-04-06 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 06.04.2013 16:41, schrieb Mihamina Rakotomandimby:
> On 2013-04-06 17:11, Richard Shaw wrote:
>> So the question is, is everybody been happy with the upgrade process via
>> FedUp lately?
>> For me no. I've tried it twice for F-17->18 and both times it was a
>> complete disaster.
> 
> I made a fresh install for my F17 -> F18 upgrade

that's not the question

you can avoid Fedup easily by a yum-upgrade, the instructions are
clear and working fine since many years/releases and not preupgrade
nor fedup nor re-install where needed at least since Fedorfa Core 3



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RE: Avoiding LVM -

2013-04-06 Thread J.Witvliet
-Original Message-
From: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org 
[mailto:users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of Craig White
Sent: zaterdag 6 april 2013 3:45
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: Avoiding LVM -

On Thu, 2013-04-04 at 12:41 -0500, Matthew J. Roth wrote:
> Joe Zeff wrote:
> > 
> > On 04/04/2013 08:45 AM, Bill Oliver wrote:
> > >
> > > I take my laptop on the road a lot, and I have work stuff on it I 
> > > don't want the world to see.  I don't encrypt the whole disk, but 
> > > I have an encrypted partitiion, and keep sensitive data on it.
> >
> > You might also consider keeping it on a flash drive with an ext4 
> > file system, as most people who'd find it wouldn't know how to read it.
> 
> 
> As a warning to future readers, this is just bad advice because then 
> the files would be unencrypted on a device that is much easier to lose.

and one that has a substantially higher likelihood of failure than a hard 
drive. It was a bad recommendation on so many levels. Anyone who entrusts their 
only copy of a valued file to a USB flash drive is certain to learn a lesson 
the hard way.

Craig


-Original Message-
So, a better advise is to simply encrypt the entire disk,
And to keep sensitive info on an _also_ encrypted mem-stick.

If you worry about failures (loosing) the mem stick, perhaps you can put the 
encrypted image on your own web-site...
Or keep an "dd"-copy of the stick in "/tmp/random.tmp" 

Security has its price, the more secure you want to feel, the higher the costs, 
or efforts.

Hw


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Re: FedUp

2013-04-06 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 04/06/2013 03:05 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote:

Hi, all.

I've been away for some weeks & am now back so I'm looking at
possibilities for upgrading 17 -> 18 seeing as 17 will be EOL in around
eight to ten weeks.

After the initial problems with FedUp, I read last night over on
Bugzilla about its progress & the latest testing (which looks like it's
going to go stable next week) is looking pretty solid.

So the question is, is everybody been happy with the upgrade process via
FedUp lately?


No. I gave up on it after it failed miserably on a couple of test 
upgrades in the early phases of f18. May-be it has seen improvements 
since then, but I didn't look back at it, since then, because I found 
the procedures outlined on

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum#Fedora_17_-.3E_Fedora_18
so far worked reliably.

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Re: Gnome dies just before login screen F18

2013-04-06 Thread Kevin
I also saw this interesting process running


root   814 1  0 10:28 ?00:00:00
/usr/bin/abrt-watch-log -F Backtrace /var/log/Xorg.0.log --
/usr/bin/abrt-dump-xorg -xD
root   815 1  0 10:28 ?00:00:00
/usr/bin/abrt-watch-log -F BUG: WARNING: at INFO: possible recursive
locking detected ernel BUG at list_del corruption list_add corruption
do_IRQ: stack overflow: ear stack overflow (cur: eneral protection
fault nable to handle kernel ouble fault: RTNL: assertion failed eek!
page_mapcount(page) went negative! adness at NETDEV WATCHDOG ysctl
table check failed : nobody cared IRQ handler type mismatch divide
error: bounds: coprocessor segment overrun: invalid TSS: segment not
present: invalid opcode: alignment check: stack segment: fpu
exception: simd exception: iret exception: /var/log/messages --
/usr/bin/abrt-dump-oops -xD


Kevin
DON'T PANIC


On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Kevin  wrote:
> below is Xorg.0.log
>
> http://pastebin.com/kvwYPZLZ
>
>
> Kevin
> DON'T PANIC
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 1:00 AM, fedora  wrote:
>> How about correcting that (your last log entries):
>>
>> Apr  5 18:45:40 localhost abrtd: Duplicate: core backtrace
>> Apr  5 18:45:40 localhost abrtd: DUP_OF_DIR:
>> /var/tmp/abrt/ccpp-2013-03-24-13:37:37-1596
>> Apr  5 18:45:40 localhost abrtd: Deleting problem directory
>> ccpp-2013-04-05-18:45:31-1533 (dup of ccpp-2013-03-24-13:37:37-1596)
>>
>>
>> What does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?
>>
>> suomi
>>
>>
>> On 2013-04-06 01:26, Kevin wrote:
>>>
>>> I been having Gnome fail at the login screen intermittently since I
>>> reinstalled a few weeks ago.  I read that `setenforce 0` should fix
>>> the problem and it did for about a week, but this time I'm really
>>> stuck.  `getenforce` returns Permissive and the problem persists. In
>>> the attached paste from /var/log/messages I tried google for
>>> "gnome-shell.desktop respawning too quickly" and most of the solutions
>>> involve graphics cards I don't have.
>>> Also, the error I see on the screen is the gnome sad face.
>>>
>>> thanks in advance for any ideas
>>>
>>> 3.8.5-201.fc18.x86_64
>>>
>>> http://pastebin.com/hUsewVjz
>>>
>>>
>>> Kevin
>>> DON'T PANIC
>>>
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Re: FedUp

2013-04-06 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby

On 2013-04-06 17:11, Richard Shaw wrote:

So the question is, is everybody been happy with the upgrade process via
FedUp lately?
For me no. I've tried it twice for F-17->18 and both times it was a
complete disaster.


I made a fresh install for my F17 -> F18 upgrade.

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Re: Gnome dies just before login screen F18

2013-04-06 Thread Kevin
below is Xorg.0.log

http://pastebin.com/kvwYPZLZ


Kevin
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On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 1:00 AM, fedora  wrote:
> How about correcting that (your last log entries):
>
> Apr  5 18:45:40 localhost abrtd: Duplicate: core backtrace
> Apr  5 18:45:40 localhost abrtd: DUP_OF_DIR:
> /var/tmp/abrt/ccpp-2013-03-24-13:37:37-1596
> Apr  5 18:45:40 localhost abrtd: Deleting problem directory
> ccpp-2013-04-05-18:45:31-1533 (dup of ccpp-2013-03-24-13:37:37-1596)
>
>
> What does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?
>
> suomi
>
>
> On 2013-04-06 01:26, Kevin wrote:
>>
>> I been having Gnome fail at the login screen intermittently since I
>> reinstalled a few weeks ago.  I read that `setenforce 0` should fix
>> the problem and it did for about a week, but this time I'm really
>> stuck.  `getenforce` returns Permissive and the problem persists. In
>> the attached paste from /var/log/messages I tried google for
>> "gnome-shell.desktop respawning too quickly" and most of the solutions
>> involve graphics cards I don't have.
>> Also, the error I see on the screen is the gnome sad face.
>>
>> thanks in advance for any ideas
>>
>> 3.8.5-201.fc18.x86_64
>>
>> http://pastebin.com/hUsewVjz
>>
>>
>> Kevin
>> DON'T PANIC
>>
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Re: FedUp

2013-04-06 Thread Richard Shaw
On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Phil Dobbin  wrote:

> After the initial problems with FedUp, I read last night over on
> Bugzilla about its progress & the latest testing (which looks like it's
> going to go stable next week) is looking pretty solid.
>
> So the question is, is everybody been happy with the upgrade process via
> FedUp lately?


For me no. I've tried it twice for F-17->18 and both times it was a
complete disaster. The first time on my desktop it couldn't find ANY of the
packages that it downloaded and left my system completely unusable. The
second time on my work laptop which I had working happily with safeboot
(work requirement) it only found "most" of the packages it downloaded and I
could boot, but that's about it. After trying to reinstall fresh with F18
it would no longer boot XP due to safeboot and I had to get my whole system
reimaged at work. Now that it's on the whole drive and encrypted, it's
going to be far more risky to try and put Fedora back on it. So not only
did the upgrade fail, but now I can't dual boot anymore.

Anyway, I hope it actually IS stable, not just going stable.

Just my two data points...

Richard
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FedUp

2013-04-06 Thread Phil Dobbin
Hi, all.

I've been away for some weeks & am now back so I'm looking at
possibilities for upgrading 17 -> 18 seeing as 17 will be EOL in around
eight to ten weeks.

After the initial problems with FedUp, I read last night over on
Bugzilla about its progress & the latest testing (which looks like it's
going to go stable next week) is looking pretty solid.

So the question is, is everybody been happy with the upgrade process via
FedUp lately?

Any help appreciated.

Cheers,

  Phil...

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Re: Gnome dies just before login screen F18

2013-04-06 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 05 April 2013, Kevin sent:
> I read that `setenforce 0` should fix the problem and it did for about
> a week, but 

Turning off the thing that catches a fault (amongst other things that
it's meant to do, to protect you) is not fixing the fault.

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