Problem with udev and ethX naming in latest Fedora 19.

2013-08-15 Thread Ben Greear

I'm having all sorts of trouble trying to get udev to rename
my interfaces based on MAC address.  Please don't suggest
I use biosdevname or other such things:  I really do want names
to be ethX and I want them in a specific order base on MAC address.


[root@localhost ~]# cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules


SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*, ATTR{address}==00:e0:ed:1c:ec:e4, 
ATTR{dev_id}==0x0, ATTR{type}==1, NAME=eth2

SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*, ATTR{address}==00:e0:ed:1c:ec:e5, 
ATTR{dev_id}==0x0, ATTR{type}==1, NAME=eth3

SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*, ATTR{address}==00:30:48:fc:17:a2, 
ATTR{dev_id}==0x0, ATTR{type}==1, NAME=eth0

SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*, ATTR{address}==00:30:48:fc:17:a3, 
ATTR{dev_id}==0x0, ATTR{type}==1, NAME=eth1


If I change the NAME=ethX to NAME=ethXr, then it seems to work.  But, if I 
leave it as is above,
it does not appear to make any changes at all to the naming.  I turned on 
debugging:

[root@localhost ~]# cat /etc/udev/udev.conf
# see udev(7) for details

udev_log=debug


But, I never see anything at all about 'ethX'.

I do not see any errors in /var/log/messages about it failing to rename due to 
'File Exists'.

I read this thread about similar issue in Fedora 18, but towards the bottom, 
there is
a claim the bug was fixed.  Maybe it came back?

http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general/427615


[root@localhost ~]# rpm -qa|grep systemd
systemd-python-204-9.fc19.x86_64
systemd-204-9.fc19.x86_64
systemd-libs-204-9.fc19.x86_64
systemd-sysv-204-9.fc19.x86_64


I'd be grateful for any help..Fedora 17 has become unstable for us due to 
gnome-fallback mode crashing,
so I'd like to be able to move forward to Fedora 19, but I really have to get 
udev working properly
first...

Thanks,
Ben

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Re: Slow initialization of something during boot

2013-08-15 Thread poma
On 15.08.2013 01:53, Frank wrote:
 On 08/14/2013 07:02 PM, poma wrote:

 To opt out of the equation an Xorg driver for Intel integrated graphics
 chipsets - man 4 intel, you can try the following:

 /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
 linux …nomodeset
 
 
 Didn't work - put me into Vesa mode I guess but the delay remains
 


 For further testing, you can also try the following:

 systemctl mask accounts-daemon.service
 
 
Ditto. Delay remains

 And of course, perform tests gradually s'il vous plaît, so can be seen
 where the bunny is - 1st intel, 2nd accountsservice, …
 
 
You must be running out of ideas by now :)
 
 Regards
 
 Frank
 

:)

3rd:
- without -background none in
/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
i.e.
xserver-command=X

- comment all directives in
/etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf
i.e.
# background=…
# theme-name=…
# icon-theme-name=…
# font-name=…
etc.


4th:
- remove rhgb quiet and
- add plymouth.enable=0 in
/boot/grub2/grub.cfg
i.e.
linux … plymouth.enable=0


5th:
cp /usr/lib/systemd/system/lightdm.service /etc/systemd/system
- add 10s delay in
/etc/systemd/system/lightdm.service
i.e.
…
[Service]
ExecStartPre=/usr/bin/sleep 10
ExecStart=/usr/sbin/lightdm
…

- enable it
i.e.
systemctl enable lightdm.service --force


If it works, and those 10s show as the only delay, you can try to lower
the value of it.


poma


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Re: Problem with udev and ethX naming in latest Fedora 19.

2013-08-15 Thread poma
On 15.08.2013 08:11, Ben Greear wrote:
 I'm having all sorts of trouble trying to get udev to rename
 my interfaces based on MAC address.  Please don't suggest
 I use biosdevname or other such things:  I really do want names
 to be ethX and I want them in a specific order base on MAC address.
 
 
 [root@localhost ~]# cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
 
 
 SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*,
 ATTR{address}==00:e0:ed:1c:ec:e4, ATTR{dev_id}==0x0,
 ATTR{type}==1, NAME=eth2
 
 SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*,
 ATTR{address}==00:e0:ed:1c:ec:e5, ATTR{dev_id}==0x0,
 ATTR{type}==1, NAME=eth3
 
 SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*,
 ATTR{address}==00:30:48:fc:17:a2, ATTR{dev_id}==0x0,
 ATTR{type}==1, NAME=eth0
 
 SUBSYSTEM==net, ACTION==add, DRIVERS==?*,
 ATTR{address}==00:30:48:fc:17:a3, ATTR{dev_id}==0x0,
 ATTR{type}==1, NAME=eth1
 
 
 If I change the NAME=ethX to NAME=ethXr, then it seems to work.  But, if
 I leave it as is above,
 it does not appear to make any changes at all to the naming.  I turned
 on debugging:
 
 [root@localhost ~]# cat /etc/udev/udev.conf
 # see udev(7) for details
 
 udev_log=debug
 
 
 But, I never see anything at all about 'ethX'.
 
 I do not see any errors in /var/log/messages about it failing to rename
 due to 'File Exists'.
 
 I read this thread about similar issue in Fedora 18, but towards the
 bottom, there is
 a claim the bug was fixed.  Maybe it came back?
 
 http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general/427615
 
 
 [root@localhost ~]# rpm -qa|grep systemd
 systemd-python-204-9.fc19.x86_64
 systemd-204-9.fc19.x86_64
 systemd-libs-204-9.fc19.x86_64
 systemd-sysv-204-9.fc19.x86_64
 
 
 I'd be grateful for any help..Fedora 17 has become unstable for us due
 to gnome-fallback mode crashing,
 so I'd like to be able to move forward to Fedora 19, but I really have
 to get udev working properly
 first...
 
 Thanks,
 Ben
 

Last time I checked, the lan alias should do, i.e. lan0, lan1, …, but
not the eth one.[1]

However I leave rename to systemd.
lspci
01:09.0 Ethernet controller:
ifconfig
enp1s9:
dmesg
systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to enp1s9

If you contemplate it from the perspective of the NetworkManager/nmcli
you'll understand. ;)


poma


[1]
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/


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Re: Fedora to Android

2013-08-15 Thread Timothy Murphy
Ralf Corsepius wrote:

 I'd like to transfer a directory of personal information
 (not just contacts) from my Fedora-19/KDE laptop
 to my Samsung Galaxy S2 android phone.
 What is the best way currently to do this?

 I'd prefer if possible to use rsync.

 Like I said in reply to another similar mail before, I am using SSHelper
 for exactly this kind of jobs (rsync).

I tried the various suggestions I received,
but SSHelper seemed easily the best.
It is rather awkward to install -
it does not seem to appear in (Google) Play Store on my phone,
but I followed the installation (and other) instructions at
http://arachnoid.com/android/SSHelper/.

Now I have a very clear view of the filesystem on my phone,
and I can edit and add files on the phone from my Fedora laptop.

The only thing I am missing is a method to read and edit files
on the phone.
If I click on the Terminal icon in SSHelper I get the message
  sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
which I don't understand.
Is there a standard way to turn job control on?

Has anyone a favourite app for reading/editing text files
on an Android phone?





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Re: Fedora to Android

2013-08-15 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 08/15/2013 11:30 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:

Ralf Corsepius wrote:


I'd like to transfer a directory of personal information
(not just contacts) from my Fedora-19/KDE laptop
to my Samsung Galaxy S2 android phone.
What is the best way currently to do this?



I'd prefer if possible to use rsync.



Like I said in reply to another similar mail before, I am using SSHelper
for exactly this kind of jobs (rsync).


I tried the various suggestions I received,
but SSHelper seemed easily the best.
It is rather awkward to install -

Not for me. I installed it the normal way via Play Store.


it does not seem to appear in (Google) Play Store on my phone,
It does so on my phone's (Galaxy S2+/Android 4.2.2), my wife's phone's 
(Galaxy S2+/Android 4.1.2) and our low-end couch-surfing tablet (Acer 
Iconia B1-A71/Android 4.1.2) play store.



but I followed the installation (and other) instructions at
http://arachnoid.com/android/SSHelper/.



Now I have a very clear view of the filesystem on my phone,
and I can edit and add files on the phone from my Fedora laptop.


I am using SSHelper primarily to ssh and rsync from my fedora boxes into 
the android devices via WLAN/WiFi. Works without any problems. The 
built-in vi also seems to work via ssh, but I haven't really used it, yet.



The only thing I am missing is a method to read and edit files
on the phone.
If I click on the Terminal icon in SSHelper I get the message
   sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
which I don't understand.

I am seeing the same. The terminal doesn't work for me, either.


Is there a standard way to turn job control on?

Has anyone a favourite app for reading/editing text files
on an Android phone?


Ralf

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Re: Problem with udev and ethX naming in latest Fedora 19.

2013-08-15 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 15.08.2013 08:11, schrieb Ben Greear:
 I'm having all sorts of trouble trying to get udev to rename
 my interfaces based on MAC address.  Please don't suggest
 I use biosdevname or other such things:  I really do want names
 to be ethX and I want them in a specific order base on MAC address.
 
 
 [root@localhost ~]# cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules

is no longer used

here you go, but in case of *four* network cards you may
consider rename them to lan0, lan1, lan2, lan3 to
avoid the race-condition kernel-naming / renaming which
is the reason that biosdevname and all this unholy crap
was introduced instead go away from eth as udev-default
but let it be a option wherever it works

cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
DEVICE=eth0
HWADDR=24:be:05:1a:c0:27

[root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1
DEVICE=eth1

HWADDR=68:05:ca:0d:62:c1



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Re: Problem with udev and ethX naming in latest Fedora 19.

2013-08-15 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 23:11:04 -0700
Ben Greear gree...@candelatech.com wrote:

 I'm having all sorts of trouble trying to get udev to rename
 my interfaces based on MAC address.  Please don't suggest
 I use biosdevname or other such things:  I really do want names
 to be ethX and I want them in a specific order base on MAC address.

Also try net.iframes=0 on the kernel line:
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
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Re: Problem with udev and ethX naming in latest Fedora 19.

2013-08-15 Thread Ben Greear

On 08/15/2013 01:55 AM, poma wrote:

On 15.08.2013 08:11, Ben Greear wrote:



Last time I checked, the lan alias should do, i.e. lan0, lan1, …, but
not the eth one.[1]

However I leave rename to systemd.
lspci
01:09.0 Ethernet controller:
ifconfig
enp1s9:
dmesg
systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to enp1s9

If you contemplate it from the perspective of the NetworkManager/nmcli
you'll understand. ;)


I end up disabling NetworkManager because is has no ability to white-list
interfaces and I only would want it messing with the one 'management'
network interface on the system..not the others that I do my own special
network configuration upon.


http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/


I read this, and option 2 to disable it is what I tried.

There is no particular reason for it to have trouble renaming the
interfaces to ethX, it might just have to do a ethY.rename naming
first.  udev has been dealing with this for many years successfully,
at least up to Fedora 17.

Thanks,
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Re: Problem with udev and ethX naming in latest Fedora 19.

2013-08-15 Thread Ben Greear

On 08/15/2013 12:56 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 15.08.2013 08:11, schrieb Ben Greear:

I'm having all sorts of trouble trying to get udev to rename
my interfaces based on MAC address.  Please don't suggest
I use biosdevname or other such things:  I really do want names
to be ethX and I want them in a specific order base on MAC address.


[root@localhost ~]# cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules


is no longer used


This page claims that it is, and it partially works..it is just
particular about what names you choose for the new names it seems.

http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/


here you go, but in case of *four* network cards you may
consider rename them to lan0, lan1, lan2, lan3 to
avoid the race-condition kernel-naming / renaming which
is the reason that biosdevname and all this unholy crap
was introduced instead go away from eth as udev-default
but let it be a option wherever it works

cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
DEVICE=eth0
HWADDR=24:be:05:1a:c0:27

[root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1
DEVICE=eth1

HWADDR=68:05:ca:0d:62:c1


I have ifcfg-eth0 defined with proper HWADDR, and still that physical port
is not always called eth0 when the system boots.  I do not have the other
NICs defined in ifcfg-ethX files.

Thanks,
Ben

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Re: Problem with udev and ethX naming in latest Fedora 19.

2013-08-15 Thread Ben Greear

On 08/15/2013 06:49 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:


I have ifcfg-eth0 defined with proper HWADDR, and still that physical port
is not always called eth0 when the system boots.  I do not have the other
NICs defined in ifcfg-ethX files


and you did read what i said?

*consider rename them to lan0, lan1, lan2, lan3 to avoid the race-condition 
kernel-naming / renaming *


Yes, and I considered it, but I do not want my networks named like that.  I've
been using ethX in my application and products for more than a decade, and do
not want to change the naming scheme if at all possible.


with 4 NIC's this was never predictable and mostly luck
the only stupid thing is that this this new crap names also appear
if there is only one NIC or at least only identical ones with
the same driver what makes race-conditions unlikely


I understand why the names come up jumbled on bootup, but there is no excuse
for udev not being able to properly rename them as requested.

Thanks,
Ben

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Re: More antivirus talk - comodo antivirus for linux

2013-08-15 Thread linuxnutster

On 08/15/2013 12:52 AM, Jatin K wrote:

On Thursday 15 August 2013 03:49 AM, linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote:

Has anybody heard of this, or even tried it?

http://www.comodo.com/home/internet-security/antivirus-for-linux.php

Might come in handy for scanning windows partitions

Yes ... I'm using it on my Ubuntu machine, as I used to share thumb
drives with my friends who are using M$ os. obviously I don't need to
protect my Linux machine, I've installed it to test it, it works like
charm and clears virus from drives ??


Warm Regards




That's what I wanted to know. I actually installed it and it started 
finding malware in windows backups I made from another machine. Look 
good so far

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Re: More antivirus talk - comodo antivirus for linux

2013-08-15 Thread Steven Stern
On 08/15/2013 08:54 AM, linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote:
 On 08/15/2013 12:52 AM, Jatin K wrote:
 On Thursday 15 August 2013 03:49 AM, linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote:
 Has anybody heard of this, or even tried it?

 http://www.comodo.com/home/internet-security/antivirus-for-linux.php

 Might come in handy for scanning windows partitions
 Yes ... I'm using it on my Ubuntu machine, as I used to share thumb
 drives with my friends who are using M$ os. obviously I don't need to
 protect my Linux machine, I've installed it to test it, it works like
 charm and clears virus from drives ??


 Warm Regards


 
 That's what I wanted to know. I actually installed it and it started
 finding malware in windows backups I made from another machine. Look
 good so far

I use ClamAV.  What does Comodo add to the party?  Can anyone do a
side-by-side review?

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Re: Problem with udev and ethX naming in latest Fedora 19.

2013-08-15 Thread Ben Greear

On 08/15/2013 07:18 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 15.08.2013 16:05, schrieb Ben Greear:

with 4 NIC's this was never predictable and mostly luck
the only stupid thing is that this this new crap names also appear
if there is only one NIC or at least only identical ones with
the same driver what makes race-conditions unlikely


I understand why the names come up jumbled on bootup, but there is no excuse
for udev not being able to properly rename them as requested


ask Kay Sievers , he is able to explain it to you too

in short:
the kernel may also rename the devices as they come up
if kernel want make one nic to eth1 and udev at the same time another one - 
collision


That's fine.  Udev can just detect the collision and try again, potentially
moving the other one to a new name.  That is what it has done for years,
in between bugs that caused eth0.rename devices to be left lying around.

Thanks,
Ben


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systemd-logind unable to create a new session

2013-08-15 Thread Geoffrey Leach
This is the result of running 'at', but I suspect its not related to 'at' per 
se.

Aug 14 16:00:00 puget systemd-logind[446]: New session 18 of user geoff.
Aug 14 16:00:00 puget atd[2098]: Cannot make/remove an entry for the specified 
session
Aug 14 16:00:00 puget systemd-logind[446]: Removed session 18.

Environment: Fedora 19, up-to-date. Kernel is 3.10.5-201.fc19.x86_64 #1 SMP
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use of suspend leads to random unwanted shutdown

2013-08-15 Thread Frédéric Bron
Since I use F19, I have toubles with suspend. I do not know if it is
really related to F19 because I do not use suspend very often when at
home but more often on holidays...
What happens:
If I use suspend some time and until I turn off the computer
completely (i.e. not by using suspend), when the computer is on, it is
susceptible to shutdown automatically at any time.

Attached is the content of /var/log/messages just before the crash.
I can see for example:
CPU3: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total
events = 1229)
Hardware event. This is not a software error.
mcelog[528]: MCE 0
mcelog[528]: CPU 3 THERMAL EVENT TSC 43df5e39a80

This seems to indicate that I have troubles with the temperature of my CPU.
However, this happens only after suspend, this is why I was wondering
if there is anything related to F19 and its kernel
(3.10.5-201.fc19.x86_64).

Frédéric
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Re: use of suspend leads to random unwanted shutdown

2013-08-15 Thread Frédéric Bron
Sorry, attached is the messages log.
Frédéric

2013/8/15 Frédéric Bron frederic.b...@m4x.org:
 Since I use F19, I have toubles with suspend. I do not know if it is
 really related to F19 because I do not use suspend very often when at
 home but more often on holidays...
 What happens:
 If I use suspend some time and until I turn off the computer
 completely (i.e. not by using suspend), when the computer is on, it is
 susceptible to shutdown automatically at any time.

 Attached is the content of /var/log/messages just before the crash.
 I can see for example:
 CPU3: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total
 events = 1229)
 Hardware event. This is not a software error.
 mcelog[528]: MCE 0
 mcelog[528]: CPU 3 THERMAL EVENT TSC 43df5e39a80

 This seems to indicate that I have troubles with the temperature of my CPU.
 However, this happens only after suspend, this is why I was wondering
 if there is anything related to F19 and its kernel
 (3.10.5-201.fc19.x86_64).


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Re: Problem with udev and ethX naming in latest Fedora 19.

2013-08-15 Thread Ben Greear

On 08/15/2013 08:14 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 15.08.2013 16:53, schrieb Ben Greear:

On 08/15/2013 07:18 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 15.08.2013 16:05, schrieb Ben Greear:

with 4 NIC's this was never predictable and mostly luck
the only stupid thing is that this this new crap names also appear
if there is only one NIC or at least only identical ones with
the same driver what makes race-conditions unlikely


I understand why the names come up jumbled on bootup, but there is no excuse
for udev not being able to properly rename them as requested


ask Kay Sievers , he is able to explain it to you too

in short:
the kernel may also rename the devices as they come up
if kernel want make one nic to eth1 and udev at the same time another one - 
collision


That's fine.  Udev can just detect the collision and try again, potentially
moving the other one to a new name.  That is what it has done for years,
in between bugs that caused eth0.rename devices to be left lying around.


well complain at the udev/systemd-guys and the ones before who came up with 
biosdevname
you know that, i know that, you asked, i gave you an answer
more can hardly do a *user* in this case



I opened a bug against udev..will see if it gets any response.

In the meantime, here is a perl script that will rename.  I wasn't sure the
limitations of other rename tools, but perhaps they would have worked fine.

You would use it like this:

lf_ifrename.pl eth0 00:30:48:fc:17:a2
lf_ifrename.pl eth1 00:30:48:fc:17:a3
lf_ifrename.pl eth2 00:e0:ed:1c:ec:e4
lf_ifrename.pl eth3 00:e0:ed:1c:ec:e5


It *should* deal with races and device name conflicts.

Someday I'll make this parse the udev 70-persistent-net.rules file (if it
exists) and use that instead of having to specify the MAC on the command line.

That should kludge around the current udev limitations while being backwards
compat with working udev, and still keeping the configuration all in one
place.


#!/usr/bin/perl

use strict;

my $ignore_err = 1;

my $dev = $ARGV[0];
my $mac = $ARGV[1];

if ((length($mac) == 0) || (length($dev) == 0)) {
  print USAGE: lf_ifrename.pl [dev] [mac]\n;
  print MAC: $mac  DEV: $dev\n;
  exit 0;
}

my $emac = `cat /sys/class/net/$dev/address`;
chomp($emac);

if ($emac eq $mac) {
  print(rename: Device $dev is already configured properly, mac: $emac\n);
  exit 0;
}

my $rdev = ;
# Find existing dev with this MAC.
my @lns = `ls /sys/class/net/*/address`;
my $i;
for ($i = 0; $i@lns; $i++) {
  my $ln = $lns[$i];
  chomp($ln);
  my $addr = `cat $ln`;
  chomp($addr);
  if ($addr =~ /$mac/i) {
$ln =~ /\/sys\/class\/net\/(\S+)\/address/;
$rdev = $1;
  }
}

if ($rdev eq ) {
  print ERROR:  rename: Could not find network device with address: $mac\n;
  exit 1;
}

# Try 10 times, this works around possible races with new devices
# being created..though that should not happen in most cases.
my $mx = 10;
for ($i = 0; $i$mx; $i++) {
  if (-e /sys/class/net/$dev/address) {
# Need to change it, first admin down
print Attempting rename of device: $dev to $dev.r\n;
do_cmd(ifdown $dev  /dev/null 21, 1);
do_cmd(ip link set dev $dev down  /dev/null 21, 1); # Just to be sure
do_cmd(ip link set dev $dev name $dev.r  /dev/null 21, 1);
  }

  # And now rename target device.
  print Attempting rename of device: $rdev to $dev\n;
  do_cmd(ifdown $rdev  /dev/null 21, 1);
  do_cmd(ip link set dev $rdev down  /dev/null 21, 1); # Just to be sure
  do_cmd(ip link set dev $rdev name $dev  /dev/null 21, 1);

  # Bring up newly renamed device
  do_cmd(ifup $dev  /dev/null 21, 1);

  # And switch names in case if we had to rename a target
  # temporarily.
  if (-e /sys/class/net/$dev.r/address) {
print Attempting rename of device: $dev.r to $rdev.\n;
do_cmd(ifdown $dev.r  /dev/null 21, 1);
do_cmd(ip link set dev $dev.r down  /dev/null 21, 1); # Just to be sure
do_cmd(ip link set dev $dev.r name $rdev  /dev/null 21, 1);

# Bring up newly renamed device
do_cmd(ifup $rdev  /dev/null 21, 1);
  }

  # Check everything worked...exit peacefully if so.
  my $cmac = `cat /sys/class/net/$dev/address`;
  chomp($cmac);

  if ($cmac eq $mac) {
print(Completed rename of device:  Dev: $dev mac: $mac\n);
exit 0;
  }
  print(Failed to properly rename device, will try again.\n);
}

print(ERROR:  Failed to properly rename device, giving up!\n);
exit 1;


sub do_cmd {
  my $err = 1;
  my $cmd = shift;
  my $ok_to_fail = shift;
  print($cmd\n);
  $err = system($cmd);
  if ($err != 0) {
if (!($ok_to_fail || $ignore_err)) {
  note(\n\n# FATAL:  Command failed, lf_ifrename.pl script is 
aborting!!\n);
  die($cmd  $!\n\n);
}
else {
  print # WARNING:  Command failed, not fatal: $cmd\n;
}
  }
  return $err
}


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Re: Slow initialization of something during boot

2013-08-15 Thread poma
…
 
 5th:
 cp /usr/lib/systemd/system/lightdm.service /etc/systemd/system
 - add 10s delay in
 /etc/systemd/system/lightdm.service
 i.e.
 …
 [Service]
 ExecStartPre=/usr/bin/sleep 10
 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/lightdm
 …
 
 - enable it
 i.e.
 systemctl enable lightdm.service --force
 
 
 If it works, and those 10s show as the only delay, you can try to lower
 the value of it.
 

I've managed to produce a lag via NetworkManager disabled,

systemctl status NetworkManager
NetworkManager.service - Network Manager
   Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service; disabled)
   Active: inactive (dead)

These are the results of the application of the 'ExecStartPre' directive
in the 'lightdm.service'


- default - no sleep

systemd-analyze blame
…
 30.903s lightdm.service
…

/var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
…
[+0.04s] DEBUG: Launching X Server
…
[+30.87s] DEBUG: Greeter connected, display is ready
[+30.87s] DEBUG: New display ready, switching to it
[+30.87s] DEBUG: Activating VT 1
…

- 10s sleep
/etc/systemd/system/lightdm.service
…
ExecStartPre=/usr/bin/sleep 10
…

systemd-analyze blame
…
 10.058s lightdm.service
…

/var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
…
[+0.04s] DEBUG: Launching X Server
…
[+1.23s] DEBUG: Greeter connected, display is ready
[+1.23s] DEBUG: New display ready, switching to it
[+1.23s] DEBUG: Activating VT 1
…

- 2s sleep
/etc/systemd/system/lightdm.service
…
ExecStartPre=/usr/bin/sleep 2
…

systemd-analyze blame
…
  2.146s lightdm.service
…

/var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
…
[+0.12s] DEBUG: Launching X Server
…
[+2.88s] DEBUG: Greeter connected, display is ready
[+2.88s] DEBUG: New display ready, switching to it
[+2.88s] DEBUG: Activating VT 1
…



poma


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Re: Slow initialization of something during boot

2013-08-15 Thread Frank

On 08/15/2013 04:19 AM, poma wrote:

On 15.08.2013 01:53, Frank wrote:

On 08/14/2013 07:02 PM, poma wrote:



To opt out of the equation an Xorg driver for Intel integrated graphics
chipsets - man 4 intel, you can try the following:

/boot/grub2/grub.cfg
linux …nomodeset



 Didn't work - put me into Vesa mode I guess but the delay remains





For further testing, you can also try the following:

systemctl mask accounts-daemon.service



Ditto. Delay remains


And of course, perform tests gradually s'il vous plaît, so can be seen
where the bunny is - 1st intel, 2nd accountsservice, …



You must be running out of ideas by now :)

Regards

Frank



:)

3rd:
- without -background none in
/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
i.e.
xserver-command=X

- comment all directives in
/etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf
i.e.
# background=…
# theme-name=…
# icon-theme-name=…
# font-name=…
etc.


4th:
- remove rhgb quiet and
- add plymouth.enable=0 in
/boot/grub2/grub.cfg
i.e.
linux … plymouth.enable=0





  Up to here nothing worked.



5th:
cp /usr/lib/systemd/system/lightdm.service /etc/systemd/system
- add 10s delay in
/etc/systemd/system/lightdm.service
i.e.
…
[Service]
ExecStartPre=/usr/bin/sleep 10
ExecStart=/usr/sbin/lightdm
…

- enable it
i.e.
systemctl enable lightdm.service --force




   Haven't done these yet.




If it works, and those 10s show as the only delay, you can try to lower
the value of it.



Regards

Frank
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Re: Slow initialization of something during boot

2013-08-15 Thread Frank

On 08/15/2013 01:58 PM, poma wrote:

…


5th:
cp /usr/lib/systemd/system/lightdm.service /etc/systemd/system
- add 10s delay in
/etc/systemd/system/lightdm.service
i.e.
…
[Service]
ExecStartPre=/usr/bin/sleep 10
ExecStart=/usr/sbin/lightdm
…

- enable it
i.e.
systemctl enable lightdm.service --force


If it works, and those 10s show as the only delay, you can try to lower
the value of it.



I've managed to produce a lag via NetworkManager disabled,

systemctl status NetworkManager
NetworkManager.service - Network Manager
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager.service; disabled)
Active: inactive (dead)

These are the results of the application of the 'ExecStartPre' directive
in the 'lightdm.service'


- default - no sleep

systemd-analyze blame
…
  30.903s lightdm.service
…

/var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
…
[+0.04s] DEBUG: Launching X Server
…
[+30.87s] DEBUG: Greeter connected, display is ready
[+30.87s] DEBUG: New display ready, switching to it
[+30.87s] DEBUG: Activating VT 1
…

- 10s sleep
/etc/systemd/system/lightdm.service
…
ExecStartPre=/usr/bin/sleep 10
…

systemd-analyze blame
…
  10.058s lightdm.service
…

/var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
…
[+0.04s] DEBUG: Launching X Server
…
[+1.23s] DEBUG: Greeter connected, display is ready
[+1.23s] DEBUG: New display ready, switching to it
[+1.23s] DEBUG: Activating VT 1
…

- 2s sleep
/etc/systemd/system/lightdm.service
…
ExecStartPre=/usr/bin/sleep 2
…

systemd-analyze blame
…
   2.146s lightdm.service
…

/var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
…
[+0.12s] DEBUG: Launching X Server
…
[+2.88s] DEBUG: Greeter connected, display is ready
[+2.88s] DEBUG: New display ready, switching to it
[+2.88s] DEBUG: Activating VT 1
…





   With all due respect, I don't understand what's going on here---my 
network manager is not disabled. What effect does adding sleep to

lightdm.service produce ?? I think I am missing the point :)

Regards


Frank
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Re: Undetected Fresco Logic FL1000G USB 3.0 controller in Asus N43SN after replace a motherboard

2013-08-15 Thread Marcin Zajączkowski
On 2013-08-12 19:27, poma wrote:
 On 12.08.2013 13:03, Marcin Zajączkowski wrote:
 Hi,

 I had no problem with a USB 3.0 port in my Asus N43SN since I bought a
 laptop (~2 years). Recently I replaced a motherboard to the new one
 (N43SL.413 looked the same as the first one) due to a problem with a
 graphical chipset and after that a USB3 controller stopped to be even
 detected.

 
 $ modinfo -F author xhci-hcd.ko
 Sarah Sharp
 
 http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#linux-usb

Thanks for a hint.

Marcin


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Re: Problem with udev and ethX naming in latest Fedora 19.

2013-08-15 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 10:42:03 -0700
Ben Greear gree...@candelatech.com wrote:
 On 08/15/2013 08:14 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
  Am 15.08.2013 16:53, schrieb Ben Greear:
  On 08/15/2013 07:18 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
  Am 15.08.2013 16:05, schrieb Ben Greear:
 
  Yes, and I considered it, but I do not want my networks named
  like that.  I've been using ethX in my application and products
  for more than a decade, and do not want to change the naming
  scheme if at all possible.
[snip]
  I understand why the names come up jumbled on bootup, but there
  is no excuse for udev not being able to properly rename them as
  requested
 
  the kernel may also rename the devices as they come up
  if kernel want make one nic to eth1 and udev at the same time
  another one - collision
 
  That's fine.  Udev can just detect the collision and try again,
  potentially moving the other one to a new name.  That is what it
  has done for years, in between bugs that caused eth0.rename
  devices to be left lying around.
 
  well complain at the udev/systemd-guys and the ones before who came
  up with biosdevname you know that, i know that, you asked, i gave
  you an answer more can hardly do a *user* in this case
 
 I opened a bug against udev..will see if it gets any response.

Bugzilla link please?

Btw, I doubt that you'll be taken seriously enough. I can bet that the
devs are going to argue like this: if your software makes explicit
use of the eth# NIC naming, it is broken to begin with. Fix your
software, and that will remove the need for your complaint.

I remember seeing this argument before --- this was one of the reasons
why the biosdevname NIC names were designed as p#p# and em#, while
ignoring the traditional eth naming. I cannot find any of the links
now, but all discussions were basically like this:

User: Why this stupid p#p# numbering scheme? Couldn't you use eth#
instead?
Dev: There is no way to name the NIC's in a linear way, so eth#
names are unsuitable.
User: But can't you at least make aliases from p#p# to eth# in udev?
Dev: There is no way to do that uniquely either, so we won't do it.
User: But my firewall rules are all written up using eth# names, and
now they are broken!
Dev: If your firewall rules made explicit usage of eth#, they were
broken to begin with. You should fix the rules, rather than insist on
using eth#.
User: How come my firewall rules were broken to begin with? They worked!
Dev: They worked by accident, because you didn't happen to experience
any race conditions in naming the NIC's. But they were broken
nevertheless.

So I basically expect that you'll be told to fix your software, so
that it doesn't use eth# names. If it is important for your software
to know which NIC is which, use biosdevname and p#p# naming. And bug
will be closed WONTFIX. Sorry.

Best, :-)
Marko

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Re: Problem with udev and ethX naming in latest Fedora 19.

2013-08-15 Thread Ben Greear

On 08/15/2013 02:50 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:

On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 10:42:03 -0700
Ben Greear gree...@candelatech.com wrote:

On 08/15/2013 08:14 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:

Am 15.08.2013 16:53, schrieb Ben Greear:

On 08/15/2013 07:18 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:

Am 15.08.2013 16:05, schrieb Ben Greear:


Yes, and I considered it, but I do not want my networks named
like that.  I've been using ethX in my application and products
for more than a decade, and do not want to change the naming
scheme if at all possible.

[snip]

I understand why the names come up jumbled on bootup, but there
is no excuse for udev not being able to properly rename them as
requested


the kernel may also rename the devices as they come up
if kernel want make one nic to eth1 and udev at the same time
another one - collision


That's fine.  Udev can just detect the collision and try again,
potentially moving the other one to a new name.  That is what it
has done for years, in between bugs that caused eth0.rename
devices to be left lying around.


well complain at the udev/systemd-guys and the ones before who came
up with biosdevname you know that, i know that, you asked, i gave
you an answer more can hardly do a *user* in this case


I opened a bug against udev..will see if it gets any response.


Bugzilla link please?

Btw, I doubt that you'll be taken seriously enough. I can bet that the
devs are going to argue like this: if your software makes explicit
use of the eth# NIC naming, it is broken to begin with. Fix your
software, and that will remove the need for your complaint.

I remember seeing this argument before --- this was one of the reasons
why the biosdevname NIC names were designed as p#p# and em#, while
ignoring the traditional eth naming. I cannot find any of the links
now, but all discussions were basically like this:

User: Why this stupid p#p# numbering scheme? Couldn't you use eth#
instead?
Dev: There is no way to name the NIC's in a linear way, so eth#
names are unsuitable.
User: But can't you at least make aliases from p#p# to eth# in udev?
Dev: There is no way to do that uniquely either, so we won't do it.
User: But my firewall rules are all written up using eth# names, and
now they are broken!
Dev: If your firewall rules made explicit usage of eth#, they were
broken to begin with. You should fix the rules, rather than insist on
using eth#.
User: How come my firewall rules were broken to begin with? They worked!
Dev: They worked by accident, because you didn't happen to experience
any race conditions in naming the NIC's. But they were broken
nevertheless.

So I basically expect that you'll be told to fix your software, so
that it doesn't use eth# names. If it is important for your software
to know which NIC is which, use biosdevname and p#p# naming. And bug
will be closed WONTFIX. Sorry.


Quite close actually.  They closed the bug within about 10 minutes :)

But, I still think it all can be made to work..if nothing else, by allowing
the kernel to use a different default name space.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=997573

I'm not actually complaining about their default naming..just the inability
of udev to over-ride names based on a MAC address *with the new name being ethX*
instead of fooX.

Thanks,
Ben



Best, :-)
Marko




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Re: Problem with udev and ethX naming in latest Fedora 19.

2013-08-15 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 15.08.2013 15:09, schrieb Ben Greear:
 On 08/15/2013 12:56 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:


 Am 15.08.2013 08:11, schrieb Ben Greear:
 I'm having all sorts of trouble trying to get udev to rename
 my interfaces based on MAC address.  Please don't suggest
 I use biosdevname or other such things:  I really do want names
 to be ethX and I want them in a specific order base on MAC address.


 [root@localhost ~]# cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules

 is no longer used
 
 This page claims that it is, and it partially works..it is just
 particular about what names you choose for the new names it seems.
 
 http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/

*partially*

 here you go, but in case of *four* network cards you may
 consider rename them to lan0, lan1, lan2, lan3 to
 avoid the race-condition kernel-naming / renaming which
 is the reason that biosdevname and all this unholy crap
 was introduced instead go away from eth as udev-default
 but let it be a option wherever it works

 cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
 DEVICE=eth0
 HWADDR=24:be:05:1a:c0:27

 [root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1
 DEVICE=eth1

 HWADDR=68:05:ca:0d:62:c1
 
 I have ifcfg-eth0 defined with proper HWADDR, and still that physical port
 is not always called eth0 when the system boots.  I do not have the other
 NICs defined in ifcfg-ethX files

and you did read what i said?

*consider rename them to lan0, lan1, lan2, lan3 to avoid the race-condition 
kernel-naming / renaming *

with 4 NIC's this was never predictable and mostly luck
the only stupid thing is that this this new crap names also appear
if there is only one NIC or at least only identical ones with
the same driver what makes race-conditions unlikely



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Re: Problem with udev and ethX naming in latest Fedora 19.

2013-08-15 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 15.08.2013 16:05, schrieb Ben Greear:
 with 4 NIC's this was never predictable and mostly luck
 the only stupid thing is that this this new crap names also appear
 if there is only one NIC or at least only identical ones with
 the same driver what makes race-conditions unlikely
 
 I understand why the names come up jumbled on bootup, but there is no excuse
 for udev not being able to properly rename them as requested

ask Kay Sievers , he is able to explain it to you too

in short:
the kernel may also rename the devices as they come up
if kernel want make one nic to eth1 and udev at the same time another one - 
collision



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Re: Problem with udev and ethX naming in latest Fedora 19.

2013-08-15 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 15.08.2013 16:53, schrieb Ben Greear:
 On 08/15/2013 07:18 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:


 Am 15.08.2013 16:05, schrieb Ben Greear:
 with 4 NIC's this was never predictable and mostly luck
 the only stupid thing is that this this new crap names also appear
 if there is only one NIC or at least only identical ones with
 the same driver what makes race-conditions unlikely

 I understand why the names come up jumbled on bootup, but there is no excuse
 for udev not being able to properly rename them as requested

 ask Kay Sievers , he is able to explain it to you too

 in short:
 the kernel may also rename the devices as they come up
 if kernel want make one nic to eth1 and udev at the same time another one - 
 collision
 
 That's fine.  Udev can just detect the collision and try again, potentially
 moving the other one to a new name.  That is what it has done for years,
 in between bugs that caused eth0.rename devices to be left lying around.

well complain at the udev/systemd-guys and the ones before who came up with 
biosdevname
you know that, i know that, you asked, i gave you an answer
more can hardly do a *user* in this case



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Sound problem on fc 19 - xmms no longer can play

2013-08-15 Thread William W. Austin
Last weekend I did a clean install of Fedora 19 on my main workstation 
replacing fc17 which had been there. (As I  usually do, I pulled the 
drive containing /, /tmp, /var, and swap and replaced it there.  That 
drive is in another machine and I can compare the diffs.)


Suddenly although alsaplayer works just fine, xmms cannot play anything.
When I attempt to run xmms, I get a show-box with the error message:

Please check that

Your soundcard is configured properly
You have the correct output plugin selected
No other program is blocking the soundcard

I've done that and the card is configured correctly, and the correct 
output plugin is selected - and no other program that I can find is 
blocking the card.


I've even gone so far as to do a yum remove pulseaudio (which worked 
just fine to solve this same problem up through at least fc17), but that 
didn't help either.  So I suspect that something else is going on here.


lsof doesn't show anything holding any of the sound devices open.
The rpms all verify correctly

root gets the same result as a non-privileged user.

So any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
 - Bill
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Two (related?) problems in fresh install of Fedora 19

2013-08-15 Thread William W. Austin
This weekend I did a clean install of fedora 19 on my main workstation 
(I pulled the drive containing /, /tmp, and /var (plus swap) running 
fedora 17, and it's available to compare).


I didn't care for the installer changes since 17, but I got through it 
alive.


HOWEVER, I am now having some network problems (at least 2) and I think 
they are related.


The first sounds trivial and isn't.  The system thinks its hostname is 
nick even though the contents of /etc/sysconfig/network say otherwise.
That is, the hostname is set correctly there.   Also a recursive grep 
through /etc finds no instance of the string nick anywhere (nor in 
/boot, /boot/grub2, etc).


Setting the hostname manually works up to a point but of course some 
things never reference the hostname after boot up and they are somewhat 
hosed.


The other main problem may be related - it's a network issue, probably 
connected with PackageKit.  Every few minutes I am getting a message saying:

No network connection available
cannot refresh cache when offline

So I suspect that PackageKit may be hosed and may be trying to reference 
the wrong hostname.


I have a second problem but it's related to sound not network and I'll 
put it in a second post.


Thanks in advance for any help - yes I did a bugzilla search but if it's 
there I missed it, and I didn't see this problem in any email about fc19 
(although I admittedly may have missed it).


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Re: Sound problem on fc 19 - xmms no longer can play

2013-08-15 Thread Ananda Samaddar
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 13:44:10 -0400
William W. Austin aire...@att.net wrote:

 Last weekend I did a clean install of Fedora 19 on my main
 workstation replacing fc17 which had been there. (As I  usually do, I
 pulled the drive containing /, /tmp, /var, and swap and replaced it
 there.  That drive is in another machine and I can compare the diffs.)
 
 Suddenly although alsaplayer works just fine, xmms cannot play
 anything. When I attempt to run xmms, I get a show-box with the error
 message:
 
 Please check that
 
 Your soundcard is configured properly
 You have the correct output plugin selected
 No other program is blocking the soundcard
 
 I've done that and the card is configured correctly, and the correct 
 output plugin is selected - and no other program that I can find is 
 blocking the card.
 
 I've even gone so far as to do a yum remove pulseaudio (which
 worked just fine to solve this same problem up through at least
 fc17), but that didn't help either.  So I suspect that something else
 is going on here.
 
 lsof doesn't show anything holding any of the sound devices open.
 The rpms all verify correctly
 
 root gets the same result as a non-privileged user.
 
 So any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
   - Bill

What on earth are you using antiquated software like XMMS for?  Why
don't you try an up-to-date fork of it like Audacious?  It has a gui
that mimics XMMS if you desire that.

Ananda


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Re: Two (related?) problems in fresh install of Fedora 19

2013-08-15 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/16/13 01:36, William W. Austin wrote:
 This weekend I did a clean install of fedora 19 on my main workstation (I 
 pulled the drive containing /, /tmp, and /var (plus swap) running fedora 17, 
 and it's available to compare).

 I didn't care for the installer changes since 17, but I got through it alive.

 HOWEVER, I am now having some network problems (at least 2) and I think they 
 are related.

 The first sounds trivial and isn't.  The system thinks its hostname is nick 
 even though the contents of /etc/sysconfig/network say otherwise.
 That is, the hostname is set correctly there.   Also a recursive grep through 
 /etc finds no instance of the string nick anywhere (nor in /boot, 
 /boot/grub2, etc).

That is because things have changed in F18/F19.

The hostname is now stored in /etc/hostname and is manipulated using the 
command hostnamectl.



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Re: Problem with udev and ethX naming in latest Fedora 19.

2013-08-15 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 14:54:41 -0700
Ben Greear wrote:

 I'm not actually complaining about their default naming..just the inability
 of udev to over-ride names based on a MAC address *with the new name being 
 ethX*
 instead of fooX.

Yea, me too, especially since the whole immutable thing is an absolute
joke. The original biosdevname was updated several times, and in many
of the updates, the immutable name changed. This new scheme apparently
uses the exact same algorithms (which broke in all the previous updates),
to invent different names that are better in the opinion of the
OCD moron who happened to have git commit rights, but of course
since they are better that means they changed once again.

How long will it be before some new developer with a different
case of OCD decides they need to change again? How long will it be before
a new motherboard manufacturer generates some new glitch they need
to fix, which once again changes the immutable names.

This would all be so much better if they went ahead and made their stupid
immutable names, but also created the persistent name udev rules to
remember the stupid immutable names and keep them the same across
updates to the algorithms.

This may be one of the more utterly absurd and useless improvements
to ever land in linux.
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Re: Problem with udev and ethX naming in latest Fedora 19.

2013-08-15 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/16/13 06:34, Tom Horsley wrote:
 to invent different names that are better in the opinion of the
 OCD moron who happened to have git commit rights, but of course
 since they are better that means they changed once again.

 How long will it be before some new developer with a different
 case of OCD decides 

Just wondering  Do you know these people personally and you have first hand 
knowledge they are afflicted with OCD?  (FYI, it is a disease with very real 
effects on family and friends and I have first hand experience with a tragedy 
brought on in part by OCD.)  Or are you just in the mood for personal attacks 
on nameless individuals for your amusement?

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Re: Two (related?) problems in fresh install of Fedora 19

2013-08-15 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 15.08.2013 19:36, schrieb William W. Austin:
 This weekend I did a clean install of fedora 19 on my main workstation (I 
 pulled the drive containing /, /tmp, and
 /var (plus swap) running fedora 17, and it's available to compare).
 
 I didn't care for the installer changes since 17, but I got through it alive.
 
 HOWEVER, I am now having some network problems (at least 2) and I think they 
 are related.
 
 The first sounds trivial and isn't.  The system thinks its hostname is nick 
 even though the 
 contents of /etc/sysconfig/network say otherwise.

/etc/sysconfig/network has nothing to do with the hostname, hence it
was even removed due yum-dist-upgrades and moved to /etc/hostname

[root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ cat /etc/hostname
srv-rhsoft.rhsoft.net

[root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ hostname
srv-rhsoft.rhsoft.net



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Problem with Matrox MGA G200eW video driver.

2013-08-15 Thread Ben Greear

I have a fancy and quite new E5 processor server system that has a Matrox VGA 
port in it:

e:04.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Electronics Systems Ltd. MGA G200eW 
WPCM450 (rev 0a)

This appears to use the mgag200 kernel module.

When this module is loaded, the Xorg log complains saying the module must be 
unloaded
and I end up running 'llvmpipe' and performance is horrible.

If I blacklist the module, it still runs in emulation mode and performance is 
horrible.

Here is what I think is the interesting part for the black-list variant:

[26.079] (II) Module vgahw: vendor=X.Org Foundation
[26.079]compiled for 1.14.2, module version = 0.1.0
[26.079]ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 14.1
[26.079] (--) MGA(0): Chipset: mgag200 eW Nuvoton
[26.079] (--) MGA(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xF900
[26.079] (--) MGA(0): MMIO registers at 0xFB80
[26.079] (--) MGA(0): Pseudo-DMA transfer window at 0xFB00
[26.150] (II) MGA(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section
Default Screen Section for depth/fbbpp 24/32
[26.150] (==) MGA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
[26.150] (==) MGA(0): RGB weight 888
[26.150] (**) MGA(0): Enabling KVM
[26.150] (==) MGA(0): Using HW cursor
[26.150] (**) MGA(0): Using Shadow Framebuffer - acceleration disabled
[26.150] (--) MGA(0): Video BIOS info block at offset 0x07D60
[26.150] (==) MGA(0): VideoRAM: 16320 kByte


So, first question:  Should I be blacklisting the driver?

And second, any idea on how to either get the acceleration working,
or make gnome work OK w/out it?  I don't care at all about 3D affects,
I just need basic desktop functionality to work w/out too much overhead.

Thanks,
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Re: More antivirus talk - comodo antivirus for linux

2013-08-15 Thread linuxnutster

On 08/15/2013 10:50 AM, Steven Stern wrote:

On 08/15/2013 08:54 AM, linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote:

On 08/15/2013 12:52 AM, Jatin K wrote:

On Thursday 15 August 2013 03:49 AM, linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote:

Has anybody heard of this, or even tried it?

http://www.comodo.com/home/internet-security/antivirus-for-linux.php

Might come in handy for scanning windows partitions

Yes ... I'm using it on my Ubuntu machine, as I used to share thumb
drives with my friends who are using M$ os. obviously I don't need to
protect my Linux machine, I've installed it to test it, it works like
charm and clears virus from drives ??


Warm Regards




That's what I wanted to know. I actually installed it and it started
finding malware in windows backups I made from another machine. Look
good so far


I use ClamAV.  What does Comodo add to the party?  Can anyone do a
side-by-side review?



I received some phishing scams with executables in attached zip files. 
ClamAv didn't find anything wrong, but when I scanned the same zip files 
with Kaspersky, it found malware. When I decompressed the zip files Clam 
still didn't find anything wrong. I'm going to try comodo on these files 
and see...

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Re: More antivirus talk - comodo antivirus for linux

2013-08-15 Thread linuxnutster

On 08/15/2013 12:48 AM, NOSpaze wrote:

On Wed, 2013-08-14 at 18:19 -0400, linuxnuts...@videotron.ca wrote:

Has anybody heard of this, or even tried it?

http://www.comodo.com/home/internet-security/antivirus-for-linux.php


In fact, a quick search at your mail domain (.com) shows a lot of
windows software useful for windows, including this antivirus. Not
related to this list, thanks.
http://pages.videotron.com/g225/index.html

;)

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I was enquiring regarding the Linux version of this particular 
anti-virus as per the link I posted ( anti-virus-for-linux.php ). I 
wanted to know if anybody had any experience with this Linux version. 
The link you provided may have proven useful had I been searching for 
windows based troubleshooting. Thanks.

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Re: Slow initialization of something during boot

2013-08-15 Thread poma
On 15.08.2013 20:10, Frank wrote:

With all due respect, I don't understand what's going on here---my
 network manager is not disabled. What effect does adding sleep to
 lightdm.service produce ?? I think I am missing the point :)
 
 Regards
 
 
 Frank

It is a famous the dodge by braking maneuver. ;)


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Re: Undetected Fresco Logic FL1000G USB 3.0 controller in Asus N43SN after replace a motherboard

2013-08-15 Thread poma
On 15.08.2013 22:13, Marcin Zajączkowski wrote:
 On 2013-08-12 19:27, poma wrote:
 On 12.08.2013 13:03, Marcin Zajączkowski wrote:
 Hi,

 I had no problem with a USB 3.0 port in my Asus N43SN since I bought a
 laptop (~2 years). Recently I replaced a motherboard to the new one
 (N43SL.413 looked the same as the first one) due to a problem with a
 graphical chipset and after that a USB3 controller stopped to be even
 detected.


 $ modinfo -F author xhci-hcd.ko
 Sarah Sharp

 http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#linux-usb
 
 Thanks for a hint.
 
 Marcin
 
 

It is resolved?


poma


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Re: Slow initialization of something during boot

2013-08-15 Thread Frank

On 08/15/2013 08:46 PM, poma wrote:

On 15.08.2013 20:10, Frank wrote:


With all due respect, I don't understand what's going on here---my
network manager is not disabled. What effect does adding sleep to
lightdm.service produce ?? I think I am missing the point :)

Regards


Frank


It is a famous the dodge by braking maneuver. ;)


poma





  Well in this case it didn't work - I tried adding 10 sec sleep...5 
sec sleep and 2 sec sleep...same 20-25 sec delay before lightdm greeter 
appears. Maybe I'll go back to lxdm..or learn patience :)


Regards


Frank
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Re: Problem with udev and ethX naming in latest Fedora 19.

2013-08-15 Thread poma
On 15.08.2013 15:04, Ben Greear wrote:
 On 08/15/2013 01:55 AM, poma wrote:
 On 15.08.2013 08:11, Ben Greear wrote:
 
 Last time I checked, the lan alias should do, i.e. lan0, lan1, …, but
 not the eth one.[1]

 However I leave rename to systemd.
 lspci
 01:09.0 Ethernet controller:
 ifconfig
 enp1s9:
 dmesg
 systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to enp1s9

 If you contemplate it from the perspective of the NetworkManager/nmcli
 you'll understand. ;)
 
 I end up disabling NetworkManager because is has no ability to white-list
 interfaces and I only would want it messing with the one 'management'
 network interface on the system..not the others that I do my own special
 network configuration upon.
 
 http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/

 
 I read this, and option 2 to disable it is what I tried.
 
 There is no particular reason for it to have trouble renaming the
 interfaces to ethX, it might just have to do a ethY.rename naming
 first.  udev has been dealing with this for many years successfully,
 at least up to Fedora 17.
 
 Thanks,
 Ben
 

You're a little late for the wedding. They were already divorced. ;)
It would be better to talk to people on the
networkmanager-l...@gnome.org of features you are missing.
Sooner or later everything you use now will become obsolete.


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Re: Slow initialization of something during boot

2013-08-15 Thread poma
On 16.08.2013 02:55, Frank wrote:
 On 08/15/2013 08:46 PM, poma wrote:
 On 15.08.2013 20:10, Frank wrote:

 With all due respect, I don't understand what's going on here---my
 network manager is not disabled. What effect does adding sleep to
 lightdm.service produce ?? I think I am missing the point :)

 Regards


 Frank

 It is a famous the dodge by braking maneuver. ;)


 poma


 
 
   Well in this case it didn't work - I tried adding 10 sec sleep...5 sec
 sleep and 2 sec sleep...same 20-25 sec delay before lightdm greeter
 appears. Maybe I'll go back to lxdm..or learn patience :)
 
 Regards
 
 
 Frank


Looks like you're not as skilled as Maverick. ;)

https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm


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Re: Slow initialization of something during boot

2013-08-15 Thread poma
 
 Looks like you're not as skilled as Maverick. ;)
 

Neither am I. :)
Bummer!


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Re: Problem with Matrox MGA G200eW video driver.

2013-08-15 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thu, 15 Aug 2013 16:36:24 -0700
Ben Greear gree...@candelatech.com wrote:

 I have a fancy and quite new E5 processor server system that has a
 Matrox VGA port in it:
 
 e:04.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Electronics Systems Ltd. MGA
 G200eW WPCM450 (rev 0a)
 
 This appears to use the mgag200 kernel module.
 
 When this module is loaded, the Xorg log complains saying the module
 must be unloaded and I end up running 'llvmpipe' and performance is
 horrible.
 
 If I blacklist the module, it still runs in emulation mode and
 performance is horrible.
 
 Here is what I think is the interesting part for the black-list
 variant:
 
 [26.079] (II) Module vgahw: vendor=X.Org Foundation
 [26.079]compiled for 1.14.2, module version = 0.1.0
 [26.079]ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 14.1
 [26.079] (--) MGA(0): Chipset: mgag200 eW Nuvoton
 [26.079] (--) MGA(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xF900
 [26.079] (--) MGA(0): MMIO registers at 0xFB80
 [26.079] (--) MGA(0): Pseudo-DMA transfer window at 0xFB00
 [26.150] (II) MGA(0): Creating default Display subsection in
 Screen section Default Screen Section for depth/fbbpp 24/32
 [26.150] (==) MGA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
 [26.150] (==) MGA(0): RGB weight 888
 [26.150] (**) MGA(0): Enabling KVM
 [26.150] (==) MGA(0): Using HW cursor
 [26.150] (**) MGA(0): Using Shadow Framebuffer - acceleration
 disabled [26.150] (--) MGA(0): Video BIOS info block at offset
 0x07D60 [26.150] (==) MGA(0): VideoRAM: 16320 kByte
 
 
 So, first question:  Should I be blacklisting the driver?
 
 And second, any idea on how to either get the acceleration working,
 or make gnome work OK w/out it?  I don't care at all about 3D affects,
 I just need basic desktop functionality to work w/out too much
 overhead.

While I know basically nothing about Matrox cards, the log line

[26.150] (**) MGA(0): Using Shadow Framebuffer - acceleration disabled

apparently says that acceleration was deliberately disabled in the
config file (i.e. somewhere inside /etc/X11/xorg.conf or inside
xorg.conf.d directory). This is the meaning of the (**).

Also, AFAIK Gnome3 requires accelerated graphics (at least it did last
time I checked). You may be better off trying Mate, XFCE, LXDE, KDE, or
some lightweight window manager without a full DE.

HTH, :-)
Marko

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Re: Slow initialization of something during boot

2013-08-15 Thread Roger

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 Didn't work - put me into Vesa mode I guess but the delay remains
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None of those worked for me either
Roger
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