Re: Brother HL-5250DN duplex printing: loves me, loves me not, ...

2014-05-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/20/14 14:05, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 05/20/14 12:57, Michael Hannon wrote:
>> and it *does* have the duplex printing option enabled:
>>
>> Double-sided printing: Long Edge (standard)
>
> Sorry for the gratuitous trimming  Just wanted to share my experience 
> which probably doesn't fix your situation but may trigger others to think 
> what may.
>
> I had much the opposite situation.  I have an HP 6500 with duplex capability. 
>  It is configured in CUPS as "installed" and the default is set to " 
> Double-Sided Printing: off".  Yet every time I printed I would get 
> double-sided print-outs.  In checking the print options for each application 
> I was using the Double-sided option was selected.  In order to get 
> single-sided, I always had to manually revert it within all of the 
> applications.
>
> Ultimately, I ran "hp-toolbox"  (which isn't applicable to you) and set the 
> default there  After that, each application did pick up the default 
> single sided.  So, it seems, settings are held in multiple places and I'm not 
> certain where all the places are and which location has priority.
>
> Anyway.  Just wondering, when you print from an application, if you 
> checked to see what printer options are being used.

FWIW, this got to me thinking and I found where the per-user options are 
set.

~/.cups/lpoptions

Duplex=DuplexNoTumble is set for a printer where the default should be

Double-sided printing: Long Edge


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Re: Brother HL-5250DN duplex printing: loves me, loves me not, ...

2014-05-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/20/14 12:57, Michael Hannon wrote:
> and it *does* have the duplex printing option enabled:
>
> Double-sided printing: Long Edge (standard)

Sorry for the gratuitous trimming  Just wanted to share my experience which 
probably doesn't fix your situation but may trigger others to think what 
may.

I had much the opposite situation.  I have an HP 6500 with duplex capability.  
It is configured in CUPS as "installed" and the default is set to " 
Double-Sided Printing: off".  Yet every time I printed I would get double-sided 
print-outs.  In checking the print options for each application I was using the 
Double-sided option was selected.  In order to get single-sided, I always had 
to manually revert it within all of the applications.

Ultimately, I ran "hp-toolbox"  (which isn't applicable to you) and set the 
default there  After that, each application did pick up the default single 
sided.  So, it seems, settings are held in multiple places and I'm not certain 
where all the places are and which location has priority.

Anyway.  Just wondering, when you print from an application, if you checked 
to see what printer options are being used.

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Brother HL-5250DN duplex printing: loves me, loves me not, ...

2014-05-19 Thread Michael Hannon
Greetings.  I've got a brother HL-5250DN printer on my local network, and it
is *currently* not doing duplex printing under Fedora 20.

I've seen discussions of a similar problem in various places.  The responses to
the problem seem to fall into several categories:

(1) Duplex printing must be *enabled* on the printer before it will print
duplex.

(2) Some printers are not well-supported under linux.  You should check the
Open Printing database (or similar).

(3) Get the printer driver from Brother.

Regarding (1), the duplex option *is* enabled on the printer, and it *does*
print in duplex from Windows and Mac systems (and others -- see below).

Regarding (2), the printer printed in duplex just fine through various
versions of Fedora, up through Fedora 18 (the last version I had installed
prior to Fedora 20).  Furthermore, it prints duplex just fine from an Ubuntu
14.04 system that I have running in VirtualBox on my Fedora machine.  In all
cases the duplex printing capability happened without my having to expend any
brain power at all on the issue: it "just worked".

Regarding (3), I've tried that, but it didn't appear to help.

So far as I can tell, my problems are pretty similar to those reported by
other people.  One possibly novel thing: I noticed, without paying close
attention, that some of the recent updates to Fedora 20 have been
CUPS-related.  That motivated me to roll the dice and try duplex printing
again.  And shazam!  It worked!

If that were the end of the story, I wouldn't bother to tell it.  The printer
once again does *not* print duplex.  I'm assuming that the problem must have
been fixed by one CUPS-related upgrade and broken again by a later one.  Here
are the candidates:

# rpm -qa --last | grep -i cups
cups-filters-1.0.53-2.fc20.x86_64 Thu 15 May 2014 11:48:18 AM PDT
cups-filters-libs-1.0.53-2.fc20.x86_64Thu 15 May 2014 11:48:15 AM PDT
bluez-cups-5.18-1.fc20.x86_64 Fri 02 May 2014 12:18:41 PM PDT
cups-1.7.2-1.fc20.x86_64  Wed 30 Apr 2014 11:41:06 AM PDT
cups-libs-1.7.2-1.fc20.x86_64 Wed 30 Apr 2014 11:40:45 AM PDT
cups-filesystem-1.7.2-1.fc20.noarch   Wed 30 Apr 2014 11:40:45 AM PDT
python-cups-1.9.65-1.fc20.x86_64  Sat 15 Mar 2014 03:09:34 PM PDT
gutenprint-cups-5.2.9-14.fc20.x86_64  Mon 23 Dec 2013 11:23:50 PM PST
cups-pk-helper-0.2.5-2.fc20.x86_64Mon 23 Dec 2013 11:08:33 PM PST

Unfortunately, as I said, I wasn't paying close attention to the timing of the
not-work/work/not-work cycle, so I can't shed any more light on the problem.
If you can, I'd love to hear from you.

BTW, the driver I'm using is:

Brother HL-5250DN Foomatic/Postscript

and it *does* have the duplex printing option enabled:

Double-sided printing: Long Edge (standard)

Thanks.

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Re: So has anyone gotten their sound to work since it broke a few days ago?

2014-05-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 19 May 2014 20:50:02 -0700
David Benfell wrote:

> In a number of distributions over a period spanning many years, removing  
> pulseaudio has been a first, and all too often entirely successful, means  
> of getting sound working.

My most fun with pulse was a few months ago when sound suddenly
stopped working on a random subset of applications. I eventually
discovered that for (as yet undetermined reasons) pulse had
decided to send the sound from some apps to different sound
devices than the default (hdmi) I had set.

My motherboard looks to the OS like it has two sound "cards".
After setting the profile for the 2nd card to "none" pulse
finally started sending everything to the hdmi port again.

I don't know if some lunatic decided to implement "load
balancing" among multiple sound cards or it was just a wild
bug of some kind that came in some update, but it was
very mysterious for a while.
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Re: So has anyone gotten their sound to work since it broke a few days ago?

2014-05-19 Thread David Benfell

Erik P. Olsen writes:


On 20/05/14 03:03, Someone wrote:

So what steps could one take to try removing pulseaudio? Just "sudo yum
remove pulseaudio"?

Thanks


Looking back through my logwatch that seems to be what I did.


In a number of distributions over a period spanning many years, removing  
pulseaudio has been a first, and all too often entirely successful, means  
of getting sound working.


Pulseaudio would be exhibit A in a counterargument to a claim that "all the  
distributions are doing it."


I think it is possible for distributions to get Pulseaudio right. Sabayon  
and Linux Mint seem, in my experience, to be two that have done so. But  
even so, unless you have a specialized need for Pulseaudio, which  
apparently may include very high-end audiophile applications, removing it  
seems generally harmless.


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Re: update grub2

2014-05-19 Thread Chris Murphy

On May 18, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Stephen Morris  wrote:

> On 05/18/2014 11:57 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 May 2014 14:57:14 +0200, Patrick Dupre wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> After an update of teh kernel. the file:
>>> /boot/grub2/grub.cfg is updated.
>>> However thsi file is not update properly.
>> How? In which way is it not updated "properly"?
>> 
>> Prior to installing a new kernel, you could save a copy of grub.cfg,
>> install a new kernel package, and then run diff on the old and new
>> grub.cfg. What do you get?
>> 
>>> If I run:
>>>  grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
>>> then the file is OK.
>> Define "OK".
>> 
>> grub2-mkconfig rewrites grub.cfg from scratch and under consideration
>> of template files, such as those in /etc/grub.d, and add-on tools such
>> as os-prober.
>> 
>> On the contrary, grubby (as run via the kernel packages) only inserts
>> a new boot entry into the existing file. It does not recreate the file
>> completely.
> Hi Michael,
>My experience with grubby being run after kernel installs, when I have 
> been able to get it to run, is that it does recreate the entire grub.cfg 
> file. For example, I have been in the situation where the boot menu had an 
> entry for the latest kernel followed by an group entry for 'Advanced Fedora 
> Options' (or something similar) along with the same structure for Ubuntu, 
> then after running grubby, the groupings were removed and all the entries 
> that were listed in the groups were moved to the top level.

It definitely doesn't recreate the entire file. It does have the ability to add 
and remove certain entries, and I've experienced the same thing you've 
described, but it's not easy to reproduce the conditions.

The solution employed on Fedora a while ago was disabling grub submenus by 
default. I think it's an amusing workaround because ostensibly the idea of 
grubby is to avoid throwing away data in the grub.cfg that represents the 
current bootable states of a system, and yet here's an example where it does 
exactly that.


Chris Murphy

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Re: UEFI Big Drive question

2014-05-19 Thread Chris Murphy

On May 18, 2014, at 3:50 PM, Stephen Morris  wrote:
>> 
> Hi Chris,
>I read an article in a computer magazine that actually said that Fedora 
> was buying a certificate from Microsoft but Canonical were going down the 
> path is self signing rather than purchase the certificate from Microsoft. The 
> same article also said that under UEFI all drivers would have the be signed 
> in order for devices to be used, and quoted the most critical device impacted 
> by this requirement as the graphics card. The article also said that in order 
> to implement the verification UEFI used a database of signatures that were 
> embedded into the firmware. Given your information it appears as though the 
> writer of the article potentially had no idea what they were talking about.

Unsurprising.

>The issue I had with my graphics card was, having installed windows, 
> Fedora and Ubuntu from legacy mode in the firmware, I turned UEFI on to test 
> functionality and had booting fail before even getting to the Fedora grub2 
> boot menu with a message that my graphics card was not supported, so I had to 
> switch back to legacy mode to be able to use my pc.

OS installs are either UEFI or BIOS based. They aren't interchangeable, so they 
break if you change the firmware mode setting after installation. But, there 
are some UEFI implementation where the boot mode is store in NVRAM along with 
the boot entry. So, we're really deep in the weeds where everyone's going to 
have different experiences because of highly variable firmware behavior, and 
even UI.


Windows
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Re: So has anyone gotten their sound to work since it broke a few days ago?

2014-05-19 Thread dwoody1

On 05/19/2014 08:03 PM, Someone wrote:

So what steps could one take to try removing pulseaudio? Just "sudo yum
remove pulseaudio"?

Thanks

Your syntax is correct.
You might also remove alsa-plugins-pulseaudio

David
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Re: So has anyone gotten their sound to work since it broke a few days ago?

2014-05-19 Thread Erik P. Olsen

On 20/05/14 03:03, Someone wrote:

So what steps could one take to try removing pulseaudio? Just "sudo yum
remove pulseaudio"?

Thanks


Looking back through my logwatch that seems to be what I did.

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Re: So has anyone gotten their sound to work since it broke a few days ago?

2014-05-19 Thread Someone
So what steps could one take to try removing pulseaudio? Just "sudo yum
remove pulseaudio"?

Thanks
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Re: update grub2

2014-05-19 Thread Stephen Morris

On 05/19/2014 08:42 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:

On Mon, 19 May 2014 08:08:54 +1000, Stephen Morris wrote:


  My experience with grubby being run after kernel installs, when I
have been able to get it to run, is that it does recreate the entire
grub.cfg file. For example, I have been in the situation where the boot
menu had an entry for the latest kernel followed by an group entry for
'Advanced Fedora Options' (or something similar) along with the same
structure for Ubuntu, then after running grubby, the groupings were
removed and all the entries that were listed in the groups were moved to
the top level.

Can't confirm.

These are the steps I've tested with on Fedora 20:

1) In /etc/default/grub I've set

   GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=false

2) I've run  "grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg"  to create the
   grub.cfg with submenus.

3) I've saved grub.cfg as ~/grub.cfg.MKCONFIG

4) I've run  "yum --enablerepo=rawhide install kernel"  to add the kernel
   package from Rawhide.

5) I've run  "diff -u ~/grub.cfg.MKCONFIG /boot/grub2/grub.cfg"  to display
   the differences.

What has changed in grub.cfg?

  * a new "menuentry" block for the new kernel at the top
  * removed trailing whitespace at the end of "linux" lines
  * replaced double-quote characters with single-quotes in menuentry blocks

Upon  "yum history undo …"  only the added menuentry block was removed
again.
Looks like grubby has changed since the last time I used it, it is now 
creating sub-entries as well. I'll need to now check if I still get the 
same problem on kernel updates where grubby fails with an authorization 
failure even though the update process is run under sudo, but when I run 
grubby manually under sudo it runs fine.


regards,
Steve

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Re: So has anyone gotten their sound to work since it broke a few days ago?

2014-05-19 Thread Rick Stevens

On 05/19/2014 10:07 AM, Erik P. Olsen issued this missive:

On 19/05/14 18:04, Someone wrote:

How would I go about finding my model of motherboard?


Try running "dmidecode | more" as root. The first few screens should
show what motherboard you're running. Some examples:

Handle 0x0200, DMI type 2, 8 bytes
Base Board Information
Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
Product Name: 0TP412
Version:
Serial Number: ..CN708217C420Y3.

Handle 0x0002, DMI type 2, 15 bytes
Base Board Information
Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD
Product Name: 785GTM-E45 (MS-7549)
Version: 1.0
Serial Number: To be filled by O.E.M.
Asset Tag: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Features:
Board is a hosting board
Board is replaceable
Location In Chassis: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Chassis Handle: 0x0003
Type: Motherboard
Contained Object Handles: 0

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Re: Sending email to my local server

2014-05-19 Thread Lee
I can add, make sure any firewall has permission to accept email traffic.
On May 19, 2014 9:44 AM, "Rick Stevens"  wrote:

> On 05/18/2014 05:06 PM, Timothy Murphy issued this missive:
>
>> I'm trying to send email from my Fedora-20/KDE laptop "rose"
>> to my CentOS-6.5 local home server "grover"
>> (in order to run a SpamAssassin test),
>> but I am finding this surprisingly difficult.
>>
>> I've tried with KMail and mail,
>> sending email to "tim@grover", "tim@grover.localdomain",
>> and various other combinations, but all fail with "recipient rejected".
>> And telnet gives
>>[tim@rose ~]$ telnet 192.168.2.5 25
>>Trying 192.168.2.5...
>>telnet: connect to address 192.168.2.5: Connection refused
>>
>> Is there a setting I could change, or is the exercise hopeless?
>>
>
> Are you certain that grover is running an MTA and that it's listening
> to anything other than 127.0.0.1? Easiest way to find out:
>
> # netstat -lpnt | grep :25
>
> If you only see something like:
>
> tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:25 ...
>
> then it's running, but won't accept incoming mail from the outside
> world. You'll need to bugger the config to make it listen to an
> additional IP. How you do that depends on if it's sendmail or postfix.
>
> If you don't see a line like that at all, then your MTA isn't even
> running.
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Re: So has anyone gotten their sound to work since it broke a few days ago?

2014-05-19 Thread Erik P. Olsen

On 19/05/14 18:04, Someone wrote:

How would I go about finding my model of motherboard? For me, sound
worked fine when I first installed a few months back, then it didn't
work, then it worked after installing some updates, and then broke again
a few days ago after installing some other updates. I saw some chatter
on the mailing list about sound at around the same time I noticed mine
break, so I assumed it was something that everyone else was experiencing
too, but in any case, I'm running the LXDE spin, FWIW.

Anyway it sure would be cool to have sound back.

I had problems with pulseaudio, removed it and used alsa instead. Have had sound 
ever since.


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Re: Sending email to my local server

2014-05-19 Thread Rick Stevens

On 05/18/2014 05:06 PM, Timothy Murphy issued this missive:

I'm trying to send email from my Fedora-20/KDE laptop "rose"
to my CentOS-6.5 local home server "grover"
(in order to run a SpamAssassin test),
but I am finding this surprisingly difficult.

I've tried with KMail and mail,
sending email to "tim@grover", "tim@grover.localdomain",
and various other combinations, but all fail with "recipient rejected".
And telnet gives
   [tim@rose ~]$ telnet 192.168.2.5 25
   Trying 192.168.2.5...
   telnet: connect to address 192.168.2.5: Connection refused

Is there a setting I could change, or is the exercise hopeless?


Are you certain that grover is running an MTA and that it's listening
to anything other than 127.0.0.1? Easiest way to find out:

# netstat -lpnt | grep :25

If you only see something like:

tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:25 ...

then it's running, but won't accept incoming mail from the outside
world. You'll need to bugger the config to make it listen to an
additional IP. How you do that depends on if it's sendmail or postfix.

If you don't see a line like that at all, then your MTA isn't even
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Re: So has anyone gotten their sound to work since it broke a few days ago?

2014-05-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 20 May 2014 00:04:46 +0800
Someone wrote:

> How would I go about finding my model of motherboard?

/sbin/dmidecode is your friend (run it as root).
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Re: So has anyone gotten their sound to work since it broke a few days ago?

2014-05-19 Thread Someone
How would I go about finding my model of motherboard? For me, sound
worked fine when I first installed a few months back, then it didn't
work, then it worked after installing some updates, and then broke again
a few days ago after installing some other updates. I saw some chatter
on the mailing list about sound at around the same time I noticed mine
break, so I assumed it was something that everyone else was experiencing
too, but in any case, I'm running the LXDE spin, FWIW.

Anyway it sure would be cool to have sound back.
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Re: So has anyone gotten their sound to work since it broke a few days ago?

2014-05-19 Thread Sudhir Khanger
On May 19, 2014 2:06 PM, "Someone"  wrote:
>
> I'm completely up to date, and I've rebooted several times. Has anyone
> had any luck with playing sound?
>
> Thanks
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I have no problem what so ever running Fedora 20 KDE on Thinkpad T420i.
Your problem must be hardware specific. Do you see anything strange in
dmseg. What was the last known kernel on which sound worked? If you think
it is kernel related then you should do a kennel bisect.
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Re: So has anyone gotten their sound to work since it broke a few days ago?

2014-05-19 Thread fedora
No problems here with sound either: kernel-3.14.4-200.fc20.x86_64, I had 
sound problems on another PC with f20, but there it was the first 
installation, and I did not use it again sofar.


suomi

On 2014-05-19 15:40, dwoody1 wrote:

On 05/19/2014 03:36 AM, Someone wrote:

I'm completely up to date, and I've rebooted several times. Has anyone
had any luck with playing sound?

Thanks

I have not had sound working since the original kernel for F20 (3.11.x).

What motherboard do you have? Maybe it is specific board that has a
problem.

Look at the thread for:

Sound not working on 3.12.x and 3.13.x kernels for Fedora 20

to see what others have said. The 3.14.x kernel has no sound either.

I have other motherboards that do not have a problem with sound.

David


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Re: So has anyone gotten their sound to work since it broke a few days ago?

2014-05-19 Thread dwoody1

On 05/19/2014 03:36 AM, Someone wrote:

I'm completely up to date, and I've rebooted several times. Has anyone
had any luck with playing sound?

Thanks

I have not had sound working since the original kernel for F20 (3.11.x).

What motherboard do you have? Maybe it is specific board that has a 
problem.


Look at the thread for:

Sound not working on 3.12.x and 3.13.x kernels for Fedora 20

to see what others have said. The 3.14.x kernel has no sound either.

I have other motherboards that do not have a problem with sound.

David

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Re: replacement for seamonkey?

2014-05-19 Thread Gary Stainburn
On Friday 16 May 2014 06:57:57 lee wrote:
> Hi,
>
> are we going to need a replacement for seamonkey which comes without
> restrictions management, and will there be one in Fedora?
>
>
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I've obviously missed something. Can someone please tell me exactly which 
package(s) have been updated and how.

Ta
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Re: replacement for seamonkey?

2014-05-19 Thread lee
Tim  writes:

> On Fri, 2014-05-16 at 07:57 +0200, lee wrote:
>> are we going to need a replacement for seamonkey which comes without
>> restrictions management,
>
> Care to clarify that double negative?  You want something with
> restrictions?

No, just seamonkey, or a suitable replacement for it, without.  I don`t
want restrictions.


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Re: So has anyone gotten their sound to work since it broke a few days ago?

2014-05-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 05/19/14 16:36, Someone wrote:
> I'm completely up to date, and I've rebooted several times. Has anyone
> had any luck with playing sound?

[egreshko@meimei azureus]$ uname -r
3.14.4-200.fc20.x86_64

All up to date  Running KDE  Never had a problem with sound...

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High 
Definition Audio

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Power Management, SystemD, etc.

2014-05-19 Thread Trever L. Adams
Hello everyone,

I am having some difficulty finding the right information. I have a
server that is only needed at certain times. Wake-on-lan works well, so
I can do administration, etc.

rtcwake works, so I can tell it to wake  each day 3-5 minutes or so
(haven't decided) before when it is needed.

The problem I am having is figuring out how to set it up so it
automatically goes to sleep after X period of time and stay asleep.

This is a F20 system, so systemd is installed. I would like to have a
script get called prior to sleep so it can set rtcwake.

I cannot find any documentation for a non-X/gui/gnome/whatever system to
set up the idle time out. Do the hooks in /etc/pm/sleep.d work with systemd?

I prefer to do suspend to ram for this setup.


Thank you for any help,
Trever



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So has anyone gotten their sound to work since it broke a few days ago?

2014-05-19 Thread Someone
I'm completely up to date, and I've rebooted several times. Has anyone
had any luck with playing sound?

Thanks
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