Re: btrfs doesn't support filesystem swap

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2016-03-16 at 14:40 -0400, Mark Haney wrote:
> On that note, is Fedora going to offer native ZFS any time soon? I
> know Ubuntu 16.04 will release with it native.

IIRC that's not going to happen as long as ZFS is under the Oracle
license.

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Re: how long is this going to be broke??

[Mark Haney]

And it's 'broken', not 'broke'.  It's the internet, man, use proper
English.  Geez.


On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Richard Shaw  wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Jack Craig 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
> Looks like a 3rd party repository based on the URL, what do you expect
> Fedora to do about it?
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
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Re: Go back to standard kernel, after using rawhide kernel

[Andy Campbell]

On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 12:02:06 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:

> On 03/17/2016 11:41 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
>>
>> Remove kernel (and kernel-core, kernel-modules, kernel-devel, etc.) for
>> version 4.5.0-0.rc7.git2.2.fc25. Then you should be able to perform a
>> "dnf install" for a Fedora 23 kernel.
> 
> Telling dnf to remove kernel\*.git2.2.fc25 should get you room.  Later,
> after booting into a proper f23 kernel, removing kernel\*.fc25 will get
> the rest.

Thanks that seems to have worked, dnf still wasn't listing the F23 
kernels, but I could get the version from another PC.

I ran the following for reference

dnf remove kernel-*-4.5.0-0.rc7.git2.2.fc25
dnf install kernel-*4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64

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Re: init 5 from single user mode fails

[g]

On 03/19/16 20:52, g wrote:
> On 03/19/16 20:38, jd1008 wrote:
> <>
>> SO how can I debug this, or is this the normal behavior?
>> If normal, since which release?
>>
> --
>
> because you booted to level 1, not all that is needed for xwindows
> has been loaded.
>
> if you init 3, note list of additional progs that are initialize.
>
> after your login, run startx or init 5, depending on which state
> you want.
>
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and i just might be incorrect on that recall from 'chemo brain' memory
because i did a quick run thru and did not have problem issuing 'init 5'
or 'startx' as root user at level 1.

as for diff of what is initialized from 'level 1' and 'level 3', it
just may be appear that they appear diff.

my bad. please excuse.


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Re: init 5 from single user mode fails

[Ed Greshko]

On 03/20/16 09:38, jd1008 wrote:
> it belches out:
> Error getting authority: Error initializing authority: Could not connect: No 
> such file
> or directory (g-io-error-quark, 1)
> .
> .
> .
> a few more lines about some other activity ...
> and the system does not proceed any further.
>
> SO how can I debug this, or is this the normal behavior?
> If normal, since which release?

Just tested in a fully updated F23 system in a VM.

I get the one message you note above and then it continues on and I get the GUI 
login screen.

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Re: seamonkey

[Kevin Cummings]

On 03/18/16 12:18, Patrick Dupre wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Is there a plan to distribute the last version of seamonkey (2.40)
> with fedora ?

Looks to me like its already in updates-testing (at least for F22).

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strange icon problem with commercial video dvd

[François Patte]

Bonjour,

I am facing a strange problem with xfce configuration: when I put a
commercial video dvd in the drive: no icon appears on the desktop. and
there are error messages in /var/log/messages, like:

blk_update_request: I/O error, dev, sr0 sector 9137664

buffer I/O error on dev sr0, logical block 1142208 async page read

But, I can play the video with vlc without any problem

If I mount this dvd (say: mount /dev/sr0 /media), no problem, no error
reported

When I umount the dvd (umount /media), an icon appears on the desktop
and immediately disappears.

This problem does not occur with dvd I recorded myself, nor with any
other removable media (usb sticks or drives).

Thank you for any help.

fedora 23 up to date...

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Re: init 5 from single user mode fails

[jd1008]

On 03/19/2016 07:52 PM, g wrote:


On 03/19/16 20:38, jd1008 wrote:
<>


SO how can I debug this, or is this the normal behavior?
If normal, since which release?


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because you booted to level 1, not all that is needed for xwindows
has been loaded.

if you init 3, note list of additional progs that are initialize.

after your login, run startx or init 5, depending on which state
you want.



Since which release??
I used to login as single user mode, and then init 5 and all would be well.
The init needs to know all that needs to be started before transitioning 
to level 5.

What I am seeing is that either something is seriously wrong witn my f22, or
init is broken.

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Re: init 5 from single user mode fails

[g]

On 03/19/16 20:38, jd1008 wrote:
<>

> SO how can I debug this, or is this the normal behavior?
> If normal, since which release?
>
--

because you booted to level 1, not all that is needed for xwindows
has been loaded.

if you init 3, note list of additional progs that are initialize.

after your login, run startx or init 5, depending on which state
you want.


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init 5 from single user mode fails

[jd1008]

it belches out:
Error getting authority: Error initializing authority: Could not 
connect: No such file or directory (g-io-error-quark, 1)

.
.
.
a few more lines about some other activity ...
and the system does not proceed any further.

SO how can I debug this, or is this the normal behavior?
If normal, since which release?
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Re: Go back to standard kernel, after using rawhide kernel

[Joe Zeff]

On 03/17/2016 11:41 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:


Remove kernel (and kernel-core, kernel-modules, kernel-devel, etc.) for
version 4.5.0-0.rc7.git2.2.fc25. Then you should be able to perform a
"dnf install" for a Fedora 23 kernel.


Telling dnf to remove kernel\*.git2.2.fc25 should get you room.  Later, 
after booting into a proper f23 kernel, removing kernel\*.fc25 will get 
the rest.

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Re: btrfs doesn't support filesystem swap

[Chris Murphy]

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016, 4:55 AM Neal Becker  wrote:

> Chris Murphy wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Neal Becker 
> wrote:
> >> If I had known that, I might not have chosen btrfs for my filesystems.
> >> Came as a rude surprise when I suddenly needed more swap space, and
> >> couldn't do it.
> >
> > You might check the FAQ and also the Gotchas list to make sure you're
> > not missing something else.
> > https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/FAQ
> > https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Gotchas
> > ...
>
> Some years ago Fedora promoted btrfs as the next great FS, to replace all
> others.  I never saw this problem mentioned - somewhere


Did you check the Btrfs Wiki or FAQ? Where would you expect to see it?

there should be a
> warning that if you choose btrfs for all your large FS you might want a
> larger partition set aside for swap.
>
>
Where should the warning go? How is the installer's swap partition default
insufficient?

You can reduce the size of the Btrfs volume (online shrink is safe, there
is no such thing as offline resize with Btrfs), and add a partition in the
resulting free space. After partitioning use partprobe so the kernel
becomes aware of the change, or reboot.


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Go back to standard kernel, after using rawhide kernel

[Andy Campbell]

I've been using the rawhide kernel repo fedora-rawhide-kernel-nodebug, on 
fedora 23.

How do I go back to using the current Fedora 23 kernel, rather than using 
rawhide kernel.  ( I think the latest kernel is causing issues with 
Virtual Box )

If I list kernels I'm only seeing the rawhide ones

[root@kalgan ~]# dnf list kernel
Last metadata expiration check: 0:20:54 ago on Thu Mar 17 12:32:10 2016.
Installed Packages
kernel.x86_64 4.5.0-0.rc7.git2.2.fc25 @fedora-rawhide-kernel-nodebug
kernel.x86_64 4.5.0-0.rc7.git3.2.fc25 @fedora-rawhide-kernel-nodebug
kernel.x86_64 4.5.0-1.fc25@fedora-rawhide-kernel-nodebug
[root@kalgan ~]# 

Thanks for any advice.

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Re: how long is this going to be broke??

[Mark Haney]

I've been an Engineer for 20 years now, and been programming since the I
was 9.  It's never been 'broke' unless you're from the DEEP DEEP South.

Sorry, man, but proper grammar trumps lingo any day.


On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Jack Craig 
wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Rick Stevens 
> wrote:
>
>> On 03/16/2016 09:14 AM, Mark Haney wrote:
>>
>>> And it's 'broken', not 'broke'.  It's the internet, man, use proper
>>> English.  Geez.
>>>
>>
>> The "unable to resolve host" message indicates you have a broken DNS
>> system, apparently. On my system:
>>
>> [root@prophead ~]# host raw.githubusercontent.com
>> raw.githubusercontent.com is an alias for github.map.fastly.net.
>> github.map.fastly.net has address 23.235.47.133
>>
>> So get your DNS stuff fixed first. Further on, I don't recognize that
>> as a standard repo, so you're sorta on your own.
>>
>> And as Mark said, the correct adjectival form is "broken".
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> hi rick,
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> thanks for a *useful reply!* it used to be the sole purpose for this
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> my dns is configured to leverage my att isp service, i'll look harder at
> the failure
> (as well as what pkg/repo is invalid)..
>
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Re: how long is this going to be broke??

[bruce]

good lord..

so all the real probs have been solved. we're on to grammar stuff!!

cool.. so when/where can i order my warp coils, or my transport
platform...!!!

sarcasm off...



On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Dave Stevens  wrote:

> Quoting Mark Haney :
>
> I've been an Engineer for 20 years now, and been programming since the I
>> was 9.  It's never been 'broke' unless you're from the DEEP DEEP South.
>>
>> Sorry, man, but proper grammar trumps lingo any day.
>>
>
> such as, for instance, "if it ain’t broke..." yes?
>
> D
>
>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Jack Craig 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Rick Stevens 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 03/16/2016 09:14 AM, Mark Haney wrote:

 And it's 'broken', not 'broke'.  It's the internet, man, use proper
> English.  Geez.
>
>
 The "unable to resolve host" message indicates you have a broken DNS
 system, apparently. On my system:

 [root@prophead ~]# host raw.githubusercontent.com
 raw.githubusercontent.com is an alias for github.map.fastly.net
 .
 github.map.fastly.net has address 23.235.47.133

 So get your DNS stuff fixed first. Further on, I don't recognize that
 as a standard repo, so you're sorta on your own.

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>>> hi rick,
>>>
>>> thanks for a *useful reply!* it used to be the sole purpose for this
>>> list's existence.
>>>
>>> my dns is configured to leverage my att isp service, i'll look harder at
>>> the failure
>>> (as well as what pkg/repo is invalid)..
>>>
>>> lastly, to the  on this list, my software engineer career spanned
>>> 1977->2014
>>> during which the terminology solely used by my peers was, 'bla-bla was
>>> broke" !
>>>
>>> but you newbies carry on with what ever lingo floats your boat!
>>>
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>>
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Re: btrfs doesn't support filesystem swap

[Tim]

On Fri, 2016-03-18 at 06:54 -0400, Neal Becker wrote:
> Some years ago Fedora promoted btrfs as the next great FS, to replace
> all others.  I never saw this problem mentioned - somewhere there
> should be a warning that if you choose btrfs for all your large FS you
> might want a larger partition set aside for swap.

I've always thought that having a separate swap partition was the best
approach, rather than a swap file inside /.  The usage of swap versus
normal file storage is different, and it makes sense to use something
optimised for it.  And it strikes me that doing one thing inside another
inside another (e.g. delving into large files as swap), is inefficient,
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Re: howto setup docker storage on btrfs f23?

[Chris Murphy]

On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Fernando Cassia  wrote:
> On 3/18/16, Mark Haney  wrote:
>> IIRC, wasn't Ted Ts'o working with RH on BTRFS when it was being
>> developed?  Of course, I've slept since then, but I'm pretty sure I read
>> some articles discussing that collaboration.
>
> If there was a political will to make BTRFS a first class citizen on
> Fedora, the status wouldn't be as it is today.
>
> From:
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Btrfs#Btrfs_support_in_Fedora
> ---
>  Btrfs support in Fedora
>
> Btrfs has been available for testing as early as Fedora 11 but
> required a special boot parameter to be passed to Anaconda during
> installation.
> In Fedora 15 it is available without a special boot parameter.
>   >>  As of Fedora 16 it is slated to be the default filesystem. <<
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> [insert sarcastic laugh]

Keep in mind at the time RH employed a Btrfs kernel maintainer, who
was pushing for and willing to support this. But he's not at RH
anymore, isn't significantly involved in Fedora, and neither RH nor
Fedora have replaced that capability or experience.


>
> Again, look at this thread
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2015-June/211673.html
>
> "was told there are no plans to make it the default yet."
>
> June 2015. That takes me back to my original reply: want BTRFS, use
> SUSE or OpenSUSE.
> Fedora devs just drag their feet and come up with excuses as to why
> the bugs that are still there are not fixed like other distros did,
> for proper BTRFS integration...

SUSE has at least two Btrfs kernel developers, one of whom is a
current Btrfs maintainer. Meanwhile, one of the XFS maintainers is
employed by Red Hat. Another RH developer works on XFS and ext4, while
juggling btrfs-progs packaging for Fedora. And the two devicemapper
maintainers are employed by Red Hat.

So it's not difficult to understand why RH/Fedora are much more
emphasizing LVM+XFS for server, devicemapper thin provisioning + XFS
for container backing, and LVM+ext4 for general purpose. While I don't
like the de-emphasis of Btrfs in Fedora, it's not reasonable to expect
Fedora developers to support something with which they lack deep
familiarity, while they have such deep familiarity with other
technologies.


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confusion setting up local email delivery, a war story

[D. Hugh Redelmeier]

I wished to set up a Fedora 23 notebook to pick up email via fetchmail.  A 
problem I'd solved long ago on other distros and releases.

fetchmail failed because it tried to use SMTP with localhost to do the
local delivery and nobody was listening for SMTP.  That got removed
from the default install perhaps sometime around Fedora 20.

So I installed postfix.  That didn't work.  I may have done some other
things in desperation -- I was actually directing my user to do the
sysadmining via intermittent email between different cities.  This was a
month ago so my memory is foggy.

I picked up the problem yesterday, with direct access to the notebook.
I'm not really familiar with the new way logging is handled (journald)
so it took me a while to figure out that there was useful information
there. (journalctl is a very awkward tool in my hands.)  I finally
figured out that I needed to "process" the aliases file (/etc/aliases).

The comments in the file itself say to run the newaliases command.
There was no such command.  But there was newaliases.postfix.  Running
that didn't work: it tried to read something (what?) from standard in.

I took a wild guess that the program looked at the name with which it
was invoked behaved accordingly.  So I created a symlink
~/bin/newaliases to /usr/bin/newaliases.postfix and invoked that.  Success!

Amusing fact: "man newaliases.postfix" displays a manpage (good!) that
doesn't mention newaliases.postfix (bad!).

Why was there no /usr/bin/newaliases?  Perhaps in desperation I had gotten 
the user to install and remove different MTAs (sendmail, esmtp?) and the 
"preferences" system got lost.  This seems unfortunate.  (Although the 
preferences system is surely a Good Thing, it is something else I've not 
yet understood.)

If postfix's /usr/bin/newaliases-and-whatever-else cares about the
name under which it is invoked, it should log an error for an
unexpected name.  /usr/bin/newaliases.postfix has no other hard links
on my system.
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Re: btrfs doesn't support filesystem swap

[D. Hugh Redelmeier]

| From: Mark Haney 

| Ubuntu's using OpenZFS, which is under the CDDL.  IANAL, but I don't see
| that as a showstopper for Fedora including it in the future.



My bet is that those who want to think it is OK will get away with it but 
that they are technically wrong.  GPL enforcement is a pain.  CDDL 
enforcement is oracular.

Interestingly, BTRFS work started at Oracle before it acquired Sun.  It is 
the default filesystem for SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12.  See 

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Re: rooting/flashing an android phone from fedora

[Sjoerd Mullender]

On 17/03/16 03:28, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have been trying to install Cyanogenmod on a Samsung Galaxy Nexus using 
> Fedora 23. According to the documentation available at 
> http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_maguro I have to use adb and 
> fastboot which are available on fedora under android-tools. So, all of it is 
> downloaded without a hitch, but I can not get adb or fastboot to "work". 
> Reading on, I have tried the workarounds proposed, to no avail. It appears 
> that I need to add my username to a group plugdev but there is no group by 
> that name. I tried using 
> 
> sudo groupadd plugdev
> 
> and that did add the group. Next, I tried: 
> 
> sudo gpasswd -a username plugdev
> 
> as per http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/UDEV
> 
> with my username in place but still: 
> 
> $ groups
> username wheel
> 
> However, system-config-users indicates that the group plugdev is checked.
> 
> Needless to say, I have come to a halt. Is there any workaround (or even a 
> better approach using Fedora) for this task?
> 
> Many thanks and best wishes,

Logout and back in.  Groups are initialized on login.

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Re: Syscall_32.tbl Missing From Kernel Source

[Rick Stevens]

On 03/17/2016 02:42 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 03/17/2016 02:16 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 17/03/16 09:53, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 03/16/2016 12:44 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 16/03/16 19:25, Stephen Morris wrote:

Hi,

I am trying to compile the kernel from the source for kernel
4.4.3-300 but the compile is failing even though I have downloaded
kcbench to get the module source code. I have looked in
arch/x86/entry/syscalls in the kernel source and syscall_32.tbl is not
there, all that is in that directory is Makefile. Have I downloaded
the wrong source package, or should I just try and find where it has
been placed in the kcbench-data directory and copy it over?


regards,

Steve


I copied the syscall_32.tbl module across to the kernel from where the
kcbench_data package installed it to, but the compile then fails on the
next module from the kcbench_data package. Why are these not in the
kernel, or is there another place that I need to update to reflect that
the necessary source has been installed and where it is, that the
package install is not updating?


I'm not having any issues (well, so far).

1. I downloaded the kernel source RPM from a Fedora mirror to my /tmp
directory. If you want the exact commands I used:

$ cd /tmp
$ wget
http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/updates/23/SRPMS/k/kernel-4.4.4-301.fc23.src.rpm



2. As myself (not a privileged user), I just did:

$ cd /tmp
$ rpm -ivp kernel-4.4.4-301.fc23.src.rpm

to install it in my rpmbuild directory tree. It whined about some items
I needed to build it, so I downloaded and installed them:

$ sudo dnf install audit-libs-devel binutils-devel bison
elfutils-devel flex hmaccalc newt-devel numactl-devel pciutils-devel
pesign

3. Next, I did:

$ cd ~/rpmbuild/SPECS
$ rpmbuild -bp kernel.spec

This builds the initial stuff required to configure the kernel itself,
applies the patches, etc. and puts the results in

~/rpmbuild/BUILD/kernel-4.4.fc23

You'll see two directories inside the one I mention above. The one
named "linux-4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64" is the Fedora-specific one (with
Fedora-specific patches). The one named "vanilla-4.4" is the one
straight from kernel.org (without Fedora-specific patches and the
like). Use the Fedora-specific one.

4. Next, I did:

$ cd ~/rpmbuild/BUILD/kernel-4.4.fc23/linux-4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64
$ make xconfig

Made my changes and saved the resulting ".config" file.

4. Next, I did:

make

At this point, it starts building the kernel. It's still building right
now (I'm using my poor little 4-core i5 laptop with only 8G of RAM),
but so far I've not seen any issues like you're having.

It's been a while since I built a kernel, but this is more-or-less what
I've done in the past. I hope it helps.

Thanks Rick, I'll try this 3rd method.

What led to this thread was, I have had the kernel-devel package
installed from fc18 onwards, so having this package installed I used
dolphin to copy /usr/src/kernels/4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64 to
/usr/local/downloads/kernels/4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64, so that I could work
on it without being root.

I did:
 $ cd /usr/local/downloads/kernels/4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64
 $ make xconfig
  loaded /boot/config-4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64
 set the config_ath9k_channel_context_support option (I'm trying
this to see if it activates dual channel support on my 802.11ac usb
wireless adapter)
 saved the config to .config

Then I did:
 make bzImage (just make does the same thing)

This was where I got the message that led to this track, as the kernel
subdirectory of   arch/x86/entry/syscalls  which was where make was
expecting to find syscall_32.tbl only contained a makefile and nothing
else.

After raising this thread I did some net searches for the error and got
some hits that led me to the following command:
 dnf provides */syscall_32.tbl
which led me to the kcbench-data package as being the container.

I installed the package and its dependencies, and re-ran the kernel make
but it still produced the same error.

I then copied syscall_32.tbl from the sub-directory of /usr/share, which
is where the install of the kcbench-data installed all its source to,
and re-ran the make. This rectified the syscall_32.tbl issue but failed
the next source code that was part of the kcbench-data package. Hence,
from my perspective, either the source packages in the Fedora
repositories are packaged wrong, or once the source packages are
installed there is some other configuration process that needs to be
done to tie them all together so that the make process knows where to
find everything.

I also tried a   make prepare  but that had exactly the same issues as
the compile process.


I also tried following the instructions at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel in the section
'Building a Kernel from the source RPM', but I couldn't work out what
the required syntax was for the command   su -c 'dnf builddep
kernel-.src.rpm'  , b

Re: conflict installing i686 version of "qt" on x86_64

[Christian Groessler]

On 03/15/16 17:30, Rex Dieter wrote:

Ralf Corsepius wrote:


Clearly a packaging bug. File a BZ against these packages.

It's not a packaging bug.

Try 'dnf update' first, I'm betting you have an older out-of-date krb5-
libs-1.14-9.fc23.x86_64 currently installed,  updated to latest
1.14.1-1.fc23 should fix it.



Yes, I had an old version of krb5-libs installed:

# rpm -qa | grep krb5-
sssd-krb5-1.13.3-5.fc23.x86_64
sssd-krb5-common-1.13.3-5.fc23.x86_64
krb5-libs-1.14.1-1.fc23.x86_64
pam_krb5-2.4.12-1.fc23.x86_64
krb5-libs-1.14-9.fc23.x86_64
krb5-devel-1.14-9.fc23.x86_64
sssd-krb5-common-1.13.3-3.fc23.x86_64
krb5-devel-1.14.1-1.fc23.x86_64
sssd-krb5-1.13.3-3.fc23.x86_64
# rpm -qa | grep krb5-1.14-

After I removed krb5-libs-1.14-9.fc23.x86_64 and
krb5-devel-1.14-9.fc23.x86_64, it worked.


But isn't this a bug that I can have krb5-libs-1.14.1-1 and 
krb5-libs-1.14-9 installed at the same time?


regards,
chris

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Re: btrfs doesn't support filesystem swap

[Gordon Messmer]

On 03/16/2016 12:11 PM, Mark Haney wrote:
Ubuntu's using OpenZFS, which is under the CDDL. IANAL, but I don't 
see that as a showstopper for Fedora including it in the future. 


There's disagreement about the issue:
https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2016/feb/25/zfs-and-linux/
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Re: btrfs doesn't support filesystem swap

[Mark Haney]

I was surprised that btrfs is still not considered production ready after
all this time.  I don't recall ext3/4 taking this long to be considered
production ready.  Of course, had I done due diligence, I wouldn't have put
a couple of btrfs based web servers in production before finding that nasty
item out.  Fortunately, I replaced them with ext4 servers before they blew
up.

On that note, is Fedora going to offer native ZFS any time soon? I know
Ubuntu 16.04 will release with it native.


On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Neal Becker  wrote:

> If I had known that, I might not have chosen btrfs for my filesystems.
> Came
> as a rude surprise when I suddenly needed more swap space, and couldn't do
> it.
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Re: anyone (still) using kdm?

[Sylvia Sánchez]

My issue with SDDM is its absolute lack of options.  It's impossible
to install new themes.  It's impossible to select a user image or a
background.  There's an option to put a picture as background but it
doesn't work.
KDM was way better.  Why KDE release not working stuff?


Cheers,
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Re: howto setup docker storage on btrfs f23?

[Fernando Cassia]

On 3/18/16, Mark Haney  wrote:
> IIRC, wasn't Ted Ts'o working with RH on BTRFS when it was being
> developed?  Of course, I've slept since then, but I'm pretty sure I read
> some articles discussing that collaboration.

If there was a political will to make BTRFS a first class citizen on
Fedora, the status wouldn't be as it is today.

From:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Btrfs#Btrfs_support_in_Fedora
---
 Btrfs support in Fedora

Btrfs has been available for testing as early as Fedora 11 but
required a special boot parameter to be passed to Anaconda during
installation.
In Fedora 15 it is available without a special boot parameter.
  >>  As of Fedora 16 it is slated to be the default filesystem. <<
--
[insert sarcastic laugh]

Again, look at this thread
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2015-June/211673.html

"was told there are no plans to make it the default yet."

June 2015. That takes me back to my original reply: want BTRFS, use
SUSE or OpenSUSE.
Fedora devs just drag their feet and come up with excuses as to why
the bugs that are still there are not fixed like other distros did,
for proper BTRFS integration...

FC
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Re: btrfs doesn't support filesystem swap

[Rick Stevens]

On 03/16/2016 05:05 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:

| From: Mark Haney 

| Ubuntu's using OpenZFS, which is under the CDDL.  IANAL, but I don't see
| that as a showstopper for Fedora including it in the future.



My bet is that those who want to think it is OK will get away with it but
that they are technically wrong.  GPL enforcement is a pain.  CDDL
enforcement is oracular.

Interestingly, BTRFS work started at Oracle before it acquired Sun.  It is
the default filesystem for SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 12.  See



Keep in mind that SuSE is not based in the United States and can, if
they so choose, thumb their noses at US patent and copyright law. Red
Hat IS based in the US and cannot (well, will not) knowingly violate US
law.

This is is one reason MP3 decoders, for example, are not part of the
standard Red Hat/Fedora/CentOS distributions as there is a patent on
it. Not everyone agrees that the patent is legitimate or enforceable,
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Re: Syscall_32.tbl Missing From Kernel Source

[Rick Stevens]

On 03/16/2016 12:44 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 16/03/16 19:25, Stephen Morris wrote:

Hi,

I am trying to compile the kernel from the source for kernel
4.4.3-300 but the compile is failing even though I have downloaded
kcbench to get the module source code. I have looked in
arch/x86/entry/syscalls in the kernel source and syscall_32.tbl is not
there, all that is in that directory is Makefile. Have I downloaded
the wrong source package, or should I just try and find where it has
been placed in the kcbench-data directory and copy it over?


regards,

Steve


I copied the syscall_32.tbl module across to the kernel from where the
kcbench_data package installed it to, but the compile then fails on the
next module from the kcbench_data package. Why are these not in the
kernel, or is there another place that I need to update to reflect that
the necessary source has been installed and where it is, that the
package install is not updating?


I'm not having any issues (well, so far).

1. I downloaded the kernel source RPM from a Fedora mirror to my /tmp
directory. If you want the exact commands I used:

$ cd /tmp
	$ wget 
http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/updates/23/SRPMS/k/kernel-4.4.4-301.fc23.src.rpm


2. As myself (not a privileged user), I just did:

$ cd /tmp
$ rpm -ivp kernel-4.4.4-301.fc23.src.rpm

to install it in my rpmbuild directory tree. It whined about some items
I needed to build it, so I downloaded and installed them:

	$ sudo dnf install audit-libs-devel binutils-devel bison elfutils-devel 
flex hmaccalc newt-devel numactl-devel pciutils-devel pesign


3. Next, I did:

$ cd ~/rpmbuild/SPECS
$ rpmbuild -bp kernel.spec

This builds the initial stuff required to configure the kernel itself,
applies the patches, etc. and puts the results in

~/rpmbuild/BUILD/kernel-4.4.fc23

You'll see two directories inside the one I mention above. The one
named "linux-4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64" is the Fedora-specific one (with
Fedora-specific patches). The one named "vanilla-4.4" is the one
straight from kernel.org (without Fedora-specific patches and the
like). Use the Fedora-specific one.

4. Next, I did:

$ cd ~/rpmbuild/BUILD/kernel-4.4.fc23/linux-4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64
$ make xconfig

Made my changes and saved the resulting ".config" file.

4. Next, I did:

make

At this point, it starts building the kernel. It's still building right
now (I'm using my poor little 4-core i5 laptop with only 8G of RAM),
but so far I've not seen any issues like you're having.

It's been a while since I built a kernel, but this is more-or-less what
I've done in the past. I hope it helps.
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Re: rooting/flashing an android phone from fedora

[Tom Horsley]

> I can not get adb or fastboot to "work".

adb worked fine for me, but I've never gotten fastboot to work
as any user other than root.
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Re: rooting/flashing an android phone from fedora

[Gordon Messmer]

On 03/17/2016 08:22 AM, Ian Malone wrote:

(maybe newgrp if it works).


Yes, newgrp will launch a new login shell, which will have new group 
memberships as specified.

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Re: howto setup docker storage on btrfs f23?

[Mark Haney]

IIRC, wasn't Ted Ts'o working with RH on BTRFS when it was being
developed?  Of course, I've slept since then, but I'm pretty sure I read
some articles discussing that collaboration.


On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Fernando Cassia  wrote:

> Fedrora is rather btrfs-hostile. (you know "not invented here syndrome").
> If you want to use btrfs I'd suggest you use SUSE where it is supported.
>
> Dec 2012: SUSE says BTRFS is ready to rock
>
> https://www.linux.com/news/enterprise/systems-management/677226-suse-linux-says-btrfs-is-ready-to-rock
>
> November 2014: OpenSUSE w BTRFS as default filesystem
>
> https://news.opensuse.org/2014/11/12/what-to-expect-from-btrfs-on-opensuse-13-2/
>
> I mean, just look at this bug, FFS...
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=864198
>
> It is quite clear devs have been dragging their feet all this time...
> FC
>
> On 3/18/16, Neal Becker  wrote:
> > Neal Becker wrote:
> >
> >> My root (and only) FS is btrfs.
> >>  sudo systemctl status docker
> >>   docker.service - Docker Application Container Engine
> >>Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/docker.service; disabled;
> >>vendor
> >> preset: disabled)
> >>Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2016-03-18 07:18:31 EDT;
> >>18s
> >> ago
> >>  Docs: http://docs.docker.com
> >>   Process: 19909 ExecStart=/usr/bin/docker daemon $OPTIONS
> >> $DOCKER_STORAGE_OPTIONS $DOCKER_NETWORK_OPTIONS $INSECURE_REGISTRY
> >> (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
> >>  Main PID: 19909 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
> >>
> >> What do I need to start docker on btrfs on f23?
> >>
> >
> > It appears that editing /etc/sysconfig/docker:
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Re: Go back to standard kernel, after using rawhide kernel

[Rick Stevens]

On 03/17/2016 01:35 PM, Andy Campbell wrote:

On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 12:02:06 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:


On 03/17/2016 11:41 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:


Remove kernel (and kernel-core, kernel-modules, kernel-devel, etc.) for
version 4.5.0-0.rc7.git2.2.fc25. Then you should be able to perform a
"dnf install" for a Fedora 23 kernel.


Telling dnf to remove kernel\*.git2.2.fc25 should get you room.  Later,
after booting into a proper f23 kernel, removing kernel\*.fc25 will get
the rest.


Thanks that seems to have worked, dnf still wasn't listing the F23
kernels, but I could get the version from another PC.


Make sure you've disabled the rawhide repos and re-enabled the F23 repos.

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Re: btrfs doesn't support filesystem swap

[Gordon Messmer]

On 03/16/2016 05:25 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:


Keep in mind that SuSE is not based in the United States and can, if
they so choose, thumb their noses at US patent and copyright law.


SuSE, AFAIK, isn't planning to distribute ZFS.  That's Canonical. 
They're also not based in the US, but they'd probably still be 
prohibited from commercially distributing any infringing products in the 
US.  So, for example, the Dell developer systems may need a ZFS-free build.

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btrfs doesn't support filesystem swap

[Neal Becker]

If I had known that, I might not have chosen btrfs for my filesystems.  Came 
as a rude surprise when I suddenly needed more swap space, and couldn't do 
it.

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/var/cache/PackageKit/metadata gets very big

[D. Hugh Redelmeier]

On my Fedora 23 systems, /var/cache/PackageKit/metadata/updates/packages 
is full of .rpm files.  For example, 2.7G on my desktop.

/var/cache/PackageKit/metadata/fedora/packages has some too.

"sudo dnf clean packages" doesn't seem to change this.  What does it 
change?

What is the purpose of this directory of RPMs?

Why is it considered metadata?

The more obvious place would be /var/cache/PackageKit/downloads/
Why isn't this used?

Is there a way of transplanting the RPMs to another system so that
downloading could be avoided?  I have half a dozen fedora systems and
it seems a waste to download each update for each system.

What is the proper way of deleting these RPMs to free up the space?  I
ask because on some machines (but not all) the space is burdensome.
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Re: how long is this going to be broke??

[Dave Stevens]

Quoting Mark Haney :


I've been an Engineer for 20 years now, and been programming since the I
was 9.  It's never been 'broke' unless you're from the DEEP DEEP South.

Sorry, man, but proper grammar trumps lingo any day.


such as, for instance, "if it ain’t broke..." yes?

D




On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:39 PM, Jack Craig 
wrote:




On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Rick Stevens 
wrote:


On 03/16/2016 09:14 AM, Mark Haney wrote:


And it's 'broken', not 'broke'.  It's the internet, man, use proper
English.  Geez.



The "unable to resolve host" message indicates you have a broken DNS
system, apparently. On my system:

[root@prophead ~]# host raw.githubusercontent.com
raw.githubusercontent.com is an alias for github.map.fastly.net.
github.map.fastly.net has address 23.235.47.133

So get your DNS stuff fixed first. Further on, I don't recognize that
as a standard repo, so you're sorta on your own.

And as Mark said, the correct adjectival form is "broken".
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hi rick,

thanks for a *useful reply!* it used to be the sole purpose for this
list's existence.

my dns is configured to leverage my att isp service, i'll look harder at
the failure
(as well as what pkg/repo is invalid)..

lastly, to the  on this list, my software engineer career spanned
1977->2014
during which the terminology solely used by my peers was, 'bla-bla was
broke" !

but you newbies carry on with what ever lingo floats your boat!

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Re: Syscall_32.tbl Missing From Kernel Source

[Stephen Morris]

On 16/03/16 19:25, Stephen Morris wrote:

Hi,

I am trying to compile the kernel from the source for kernel 
4.4.3-300 but the compile is failing even though I have downloaded 
kcbench to get the module source code. I have looked in 
arch/x86/entry/syscalls in the kernel source and syscall_32.tbl is not 
there, all that is in that directory is Makefile. Have I downloaded 
the wrong source package, or should I just try and find where it has 
been placed in the kcbench-data directory and copy it over?



regards,

Steve

I copied the syscall_32.tbl module across to the kernel from where the 
kcbench_data package installed it to, but the compile then fails on the 
next module from the kcbench_data package. Why are these not in the 
kernel, or is there another place that I need to update to reflect that 
the necessary source has been installed and where it is, that the 
package install is not updating?


regards,
Steve

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Re: Go back to standard kernel, after using rawhide kernel

[John Pilkington]

On 17/03/16 12:54, Andy Campbell wrote:

I've been using the rawhide kernel repo fedora-rawhide-kernel-nodebug, on
fedora 23.

How do I go back to using the current Fedora 23 kernel, rather than using
rawhide kernel.  ( I think the latest kernel is causing issues with
Virtual Box )

If I list kernels I'm only seeing the rawhide ones

[root@kalgan ~]# dnf list kernel
Last metadata expiration check: 0:20:54 ago on Thu Mar 17 12:32:10 2016.
Installed Packages
kernel.x86_64 4.5.0-0.rc7.git2.2.fc25 @fedora-rawhide-kernel-nodebug
kernel.x86_64 4.5.0-0.rc7.git3.2.fc25 @fedora-rawhide-kernel-nodebug
kernel.x86_64 4.5.0-1.fc25@fedora-rawhide-kernel-nodebug
[root@kalgan ~]#

Thanks for any advice.

Well, it does say they are *installed* packages.  I see others with 'yum 
list *kernel*'


I usually use yumex (in SL7), but what does 'dnf downgrade kernel' 
offer?  - assuming you haven't  got 'assumeyes' set up somehow.


John P

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Re: btrfs doesn't support filesystem swap

[James Hogarth]

On 17 Mar 2016 06:10, "Gordon Messmer"  wrote:
>
> On 03/16/2016 05:25 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
>>
>>
>> Keep in mind that SuSE is not based in the United States and can, if
>> they so choose, thumb their noses at US patent and copyright law.
>
>
> SuSE, AFAIK, isn't planning to distribute ZFS.  That's Canonical. They're
also not based in the US, but they'd probably still be prohibited from
commercially distributing any infringing products in the US.  So, for
example, the Dell developer systems may need a ZFS-free build.
>

Canonical do have a registered US presence in Canonical Inc though, however
how much they keep in it I don't know.

Back to the Fedora point Debian and the SFC do agree that a source based
distribution, with no redistribution of the resultant compiled binary,
would comply with both licences so a DKMS approach is at least valid.

However there was only recently a discussion about using DKMS stuff in
Fedora and the kernel maintainers were very clear that kernel modules
external to the main kernel build are outside of Fedora guidelines for a
variety of reasons.

So short of a legal challenge to Canonical's plans resulting in a ruling
that it is indeed fine to distribute the combined works of the kernel and a
CDDL module in compiled form this allowing ZFS to go upstream under CDDL,
or Oracle flexing their legal muscles and enacting clause 4.1(?) of CDDL
1.0 to relicense the code to something GPL compatible (and NetApp then not
leveraging their WAFL patents), ZFS is not going to be in Fedora or RHEL
for the foreseeable future.
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Re: how long is this going to be broke??

[Richard Shaw]

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Jack Craig 
wrote:

>
>
Looks like a 3rd party repository based on the URL, what do you expect
Fedora to do about it?

Thanks,
Richard
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Re: Syscall_32.tbl Missing From Kernel Source

[Stephen Morris]

On 17/03/16 09:53, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 03/16/2016 12:44 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 16/03/16 19:25, Stephen Morris wrote:

Hi,

I am trying to compile the kernel from the source for kernel
4.4.3-300 but the compile is failing even though I have downloaded
kcbench to get the module source code. I have looked in
arch/x86/entry/syscalls in the kernel source and syscall_32.tbl is not
there, all that is in that directory is Makefile. Have I downloaded
the wrong source package, or should I just try and find where it has
been placed in the kcbench-data directory and copy it over?


regards,

Steve


I copied the syscall_32.tbl module across to the kernel from where the
kcbench_data package installed it to, but the compile then fails on the
next module from the kcbench_data package. Why are these not in the
kernel, or is there another place that I need to update to reflect that
the necessary source has been installed and where it is, that the
package install is not updating?


I'm not having any issues (well, so far).

1. I downloaded the kernel source RPM from a Fedora mirror to my /tmp
directory. If you want the exact commands I used:

$ cd /tmp
$ wget 
http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/updates/23/SRPMS/k/kernel-4.4.4-301.fc23.src.rpm


2. As myself (not a privileged user), I just did:

$ cd /tmp
$ rpm -ivp kernel-4.4.4-301.fc23.src.rpm

to install it in my rpmbuild directory tree. It whined about some items
I needed to build it, so I downloaded and installed them:

$ sudo dnf install audit-libs-devel binutils-devel bison 
elfutils-devel flex hmaccalc newt-devel numactl-devel pciutils-devel 
pesign


3. Next, I did:

$ cd ~/rpmbuild/SPECS
$ rpmbuild -bp kernel.spec

This builds the initial stuff required to configure the kernel itself,
applies the patches, etc. and puts the results in

~/rpmbuild/BUILD/kernel-4.4.fc23

You'll see two directories inside the one I mention above. The one
named "linux-4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64" is the Fedora-specific one (with
Fedora-specific patches). The one named "vanilla-4.4" is the one
straight from kernel.org (without Fedora-specific patches and the
like). Use the Fedora-specific one.

4. Next, I did:

$ cd ~/rpmbuild/BUILD/kernel-4.4.fc23/linux-4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64
$ make xconfig

Made my changes and saved the resulting ".config" file.

4. Next, I did:

make

At this point, it starts building the kernel. It's still building right
now (I'm using my poor little 4-core i5 laptop with only 8G of RAM),
but so far I've not seen any issues like you're having.

It's been a while since I built a kernel, but this is more-or-less what
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Thanks Rick, I'll try this 3rd method.

What led to this thread was, I have had the kernel-devel package 
installed from fc18 onwards, so having this package installed I used 
dolphin to copy /usr/src/kernels/4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64 to 
/usr/local/downloads/kernels/4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64, so that I could work 
on it without being root.


I did:
$ cd /usr/local/downloads/kernels/4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64
$ make xconfig
 loaded /boot/config-4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64
set the config_ath9k_channel_context_support option (I'm trying 
this to see if it activates dual channel support on my 802.11ac usb 
wireless adapter)

saved the config to .config

Then I did:
make bzImage (just make does the same thing)

This was where I got the message that led to this track, as the kernel 
subdirectory of   arch/x86/entry/syscalls  which was where make was 
expecting to find syscall_32.tbl only contained a makefile and nothing else.


After raising this thread I did some net searches for the error and got 
some hits that led me to the following command:

dnf provides */syscall_32.tbl
which led me to the kcbench-data package as being the container.

I installed the package and its dependencies, and re-ran the kernel make 
but it still produced the same error.


I then copied syscall_32.tbl from the sub-directory of /usr/share, which 
is where the install of the kcbench-data installed all its source to, 
and re-ran the make. This rectified the syscall_32.tbl issue but failed 
the next source code that was part of the kcbench-data package. Hence, 
from my perspective, either the source packages in the Fedora 
repositories are packaged wrong, or once the source packages are 
installed there is some othe

Re: Issue with kernel-devel installation.

[Stephen Morris]

On 15/03/16 09:52, Erik P. Olsen wrote:

On 2016-03-14 at 10:08:41 Rick Stevens wrote:


On 03/13/2016 03:20 AM, Erik P. Olsen wrote:



Note that there is no versioning dependencies between kernel and
kernel-devel so if you only dnf upgrade kernel (or dnf upgrade
kernel-devel) they will fall out of sync.

You need to dnf update kernel kernel-devel together (or not filter
the dnf update at all) to keep them in sync.


I think yum-extender for dnf is the culprit. I see today that
kernel-4.4.4-301.fc23 has become available and yum-extender does not
include kernel-devel in the update whereas dnf update does. Weird.

I'd bugzilla that quickly.
  
OK, searching bugzilla I found that it has already been reported as bug

no 1286389.
Just my 2 cents worth, the issue with yumex and dnf showing updates may 
just be timing as either they both use different repository metadata or 
their refresh cycles are not synchronized (I've experienced repository 
refreshes immediately after each other, and I have been in the situation 
where I have installed all updates shown by Yumex, gone into DNF and it 
has said there are more updates to install and done it.), but currently 
both this morning and last night Yumex is showing me updates for both 
the 4.4.4-301 kernel and kernel-devel packages.


regards,
Steve


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Re: btrfs doesn't support filesystem swap

[Neal Becker]

Chris Murphy wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Neal Becker  wrote:
>> If I had known that, I might not have chosen btrfs for my filesystems. 
>> Came as a rude surprise when I suddenly needed more swap space, and
>> couldn't do it.
> 
> You might check the FAQ and also the Gotchas list to make sure you're
> not missing something else.
> https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/FAQ
> https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Gotchas
> ...

Some years ago Fedora promoted btrfs as the next great FS, to replace all 
others.  I never saw this problem mentioned - somewhere there should be a 
warning that if you choose btrfs for all your large FS you might want a 
larger partition set aside for swap.

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Re: Go back to standard kernel, after using rawhide kernel

[Andy Campbell]

On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 15:03:27 +, John Pilkington wrote:

> On 17/03/16 12:54, Andy Campbell wrote:
>> I've been using the rawhide kernel repo fedora-rawhide-kernel-nodebug,
>> on fedora 23.
>>
>> How do I go back to using the current Fedora 23 kernel, rather than
>> using rawhide kernel.  ( I think the latest kernel is causing issues
>> with Virtual Box )
>>
>> If I list kernels I'm only seeing the rawhide ones
>>
>> [root@kalgan ~]# dnf list kernel Last metadata expiration check:
>> 0:20:54 ago on Thu Mar 17 12:32:10 2016. Installed Packages
>> kernel.x86_64 4.5.0-0.rc7.git2.2.fc25 @fedora-rawhide-kernel-nodebug
>> kernel.x86_64 4.5.0-0.rc7.git3.2.fc25 @fedora-rawhide-kernel-nodebug
>> kernel.x86_64 4.5.0-1.fc25@fedora-rawhide-kernel-nodebug
>> [root@kalgan ~]#
>>
>> Thanks for any advice.
>>
> Well, it does say they are *installed* packages.  I see others with 'yum
> list *kernel*'
> 
> I usually use yumex (in SL7), but what does 'dnf downgrade kernel'
> offer?  - assuming you haven't  got 'assumeyes' set up somehow.
> 
> John P

Seems to be a conflict issue ...

[root@kalgan ~]# dnf downgrade kernel
Last metadata expiration check: 4:03:43 ago on Thu Mar 17 12:32:10 2016.
Error: conflicting requests
(try to add '--allowerasing' to command line to replace conflicting 
packages)


[root@kalgan ~]# dnf --allowerasing downgrade kernel
Last metadata expiration check: 4:03:59 ago on Thu Mar 17 12:32:10 2016.
Error: conflicting requests
[root@kalgan ~]# 


- I've disable the rawhide repo ( enabled=0 ) in the repo file.
- yum lists the same as dnf ( isn't yum now just a wrapper for dnf in 
F23 ?)

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Elevated Prompted Authentication Fails Fedora 23 SSSD Active Directory Accounts Wheel Group

[Stephen Jones]

Hi All,


I have a few Fedora 23 box's joined to an AD domain using SSSD. The AD admin 
users in the local default admin group wheel for these computers.

Login and using sudo in terminal is not an issue. However, any gnome GUI 
interface which requires elevation prompt to enter their admin password fails 
with a message like "Authentication failure, please try again."

Two of these  Fedora 23 desktops are clean builds and fully up to date with 
selinux disabled.

Error Logs


polkit-agent-he
pam_sss(polkit-1:auth): authentication success; logname= uid=5000 euid=0 tty= 
ruser=ADUSER rhost= user=ADUSER

USER_AUTH pid=11713 uid=5000 auid=5000 ses=4 msg='op=PAM:authentication 
grantors=pam_succeed_if,pam_sss acct="ADUSER" 
exe="/usr/lib/polkit-1/polkit-agent-helper-1" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? 
res=success'

GNOME Shell
polkit-agent-helper-1: pam_acct_mgmt failed: Permission denied

polkitd
Operator of unix-session:4 FAILED to authenticate to gain authorization for 
action org.opensuse.cupspkhelper.mechanism.all-edit for 
unix-process:10511:6995429 [gnome-control-center printers] (owned by 
unix-user:ADUSER)

dbus-daemon
(gnome-control-center:10511): Gtk-WARNING **: Error acquiring permission: User 
dismissed authentication dialog while trying to acquire permission for 
action-id org.opensuse.cupspkhelper.mechanism.all-edit


Has anybody seen something like this before or have hints/solution to resolve 
the issue. I am happy provide any additional information as required.

Thanks for your help

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Re: Syscall_32.tbl Missing From Kernel Source

[Rick Stevens]

On 03/17/2016 02:16 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 17/03/16 09:53, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 03/16/2016 12:44 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 16/03/16 19:25, Stephen Morris wrote:

Hi,

I am trying to compile the kernel from the source for kernel
4.4.3-300 but the compile is failing even though I have downloaded
kcbench to get the module source code. I have looked in
arch/x86/entry/syscalls in the kernel source and syscall_32.tbl is not
there, all that is in that directory is Makefile. Have I downloaded
the wrong source package, or should I just try and find where it has
been placed in the kcbench-data directory and copy it over?


regards,

Steve


I copied the syscall_32.tbl module across to the kernel from where the
kcbench_data package installed it to, but the compile then fails on the
next module from the kcbench_data package. Why are these not in the
kernel, or is there another place that I need to update to reflect that
the necessary source has been installed and where it is, that the
package install is not updating?


I'm not having any issues (well, so far).

1. I downloaded the kernel source RPM from a Fedora mirror to my /tmp
directory. If you want the exact commands I used:

$ cd /tmp
$ wget
http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora/updates/23/SRPMS/k/kernel-4.4.4-301.fc23.src.rpm


2. As myself (not a privileged user), I just did:

$ cd /tmp
$ rpm -ivp kernel-4.4.4-301.fc23.src.rpm

to install it in my rpmbuild directory tree. It whined about some items
I needed to build it, so I downloaded and installed them:

$ sudo dnf install audit-libs-devel binutils-devel bison
elfutils-devel flex hmaccalc newt-devel numactl-devel pciutils-devel
pesign

3. Next, I did:

$ cd ~/rpmbuild/SPECS
$ rpmbuild -bp kernel.spec

This builds the initial stuff required to configure the kernel itself,
applies the patches, etc. and puts the results in

~/rpmbuild/BUILD/kernel-4.4.fc23

You'll see two directories inside the one I mention above. The one
named "linux-4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64" is the Fedora-specific one (with
Fedora-specific patches). The one named "vanilla-4.4" is the one
straight from kernel.org (without Fedora-specific patches and the
like). Use the Fedora-specific one.

4. Next, I did:

$ cd ~/rpmbuild/BUILD/kernel-4.4.fc23/linux-4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64
$ make xconfig

Made my changes and saved the resulting ".config" file.

4. Next, I did:

make

At this point, it starts building the kernel. It's still building right
now (I'm using my poor little 4-core i5 laptop with only 8G of RAM),
but so far I've not seen any issues like you're having.

It's been a while since I built a kernel, but this is more-or-less what
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Thanks Rick, I'll try this 3rd method.

What led to this thread was, I have had the kernel-devel package
installed from fc18 onwards, so having this package installed I used
dolphin to copy /usr/src/kernels/4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64 to
/usr/local/downloads/kernels/4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64, so that I could work
on it without being root.

I did:
 $ cd /usr/local/downloads/kernels/4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64
 $ make xconfig
  loaded /boot/config-4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64
 set the config_ath9k_channel_context_support option (I'm trying
this to see if it activates dual channel support on my 802.11ac usb
wireless adapter)
 saved the config to .config

Then I did:
 make bzImage (just make does the same thing)

This was where I got the message that led to this track, as the kernel
subdirectory of   arch/x86/entry/syscalls  which was where make was
expecting to find syscall_32.tbl only contained a makefile and nothing
else.

After raising this thread I did some net searches for the error and got
some hits that led me to the following command:
 dnf provides */syscall_32.tbl
which led me to the kcbench-data package as being the container.

I installed the package and its dependencies, and re-ran the kernel make
but it still produced the same error.

I then copied syscall_32.tbl from the sub-directory of /usr/share, which
is where the install of the kcbench-data installed all its source to,
and re-ran the make. This rectified the syscall_32.tbl issue but failed
the next source code that was part of the kcbench-data package. Hence,
from my perspective, either the source packages in the Fedora
repositories are packaged wrong, or once the source packages are

Re: /var/cache/PackageKit/metadata gets very big

[D. Hugh Redelmeier]

| From: stan 

Thanks for your useful response.  But there are still things that
puzzle/annoy me.

| On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 10:22:36 -0400 (EDT)
| "D. Hugh Redelmeier"  wrote:
| 
| > On my Fedora 23
| > systems, /var/cache/PackageKit/metadata/updates/packages is full
| > of .rpm files.  For example, 2.7G on my desktop.
| > /var/cache/PackageKit/metadata/fedora/packages has some too.

| > "sudo dnf clean packages" doesn't seem to change this.  What does it 
| > change?
| 
| The dnf package storage is cleared.  PackageKit is independent of
| dnf.

Isn't dnf the user interface to PackageKit?

"man PackageKit" points to pkmon and pkcon, both with the identical
description: "PackageKit console client".  One of those is wrong.  In
any case, those commands don't seem to have knobs to adjust PackageKit
hoarding instincts.

| > What is the purpose of this directory of RPMs?
| 
| Saved in case of problems.

What kind of problems?

Perhaps they are used to reduce the size of download (so only a
difference needs to be transferred).

In any case, lots of the saved RPMs are obsoleted by other saved RPMs.
That seems like a waste.  So I deleted all the obsolete ones and saved
a lot of space.  I only bothered with
/var/cache/PackageKit/metadata/updates/packages
so far.  That saved me almost 2G!

Here's how I did it.  Not quite a script yet.

cd /var/cache/PackageKit/metadata/updates/packages

# create a list of installed RPM files
rpm -qa | sed -e 's/$/.rpm/' | sort >~/0installed

# create a list of hoarded files
ls >~/0saved

# create a list of files that are obsoleted
diff ~/0saved ~/0installed | sed -n -e 's/^< //p' >~/0obsolete

# Exercise for the reader: delete files list in ~/0obsolete
# This is the first step that requires root.
# Note: ~/ means something different for each user.

Before I did this, "dnf update" failed due to lack of space.  After,
it just worked.  So I guess PackageKit isn't upset by files just
disappearing from this directory.

| > Is there a way of transplanting the RPMs to another system so that
| > downloading could be avoided?
| 
| rsync them into /var/cache/dnf/[hashed directory entry]/packages/

Thanks.  That seems a little hacky so I won't bother.

| > What is the proper way of deleting these RPMs to free up the space?  I
| > ask because on some machines (but not all) the space is burdensome.
| 
| There is a setting in the file
| /etc/PackageKit/PackageKit.conf
| 
| # Keep the packages after they have been downloaded
| #KeepCache=false

Thanks.  It didn't seem to affect old files (it didn't buy back space
that I needed for "dnf update"). I didn't try to debug this.  Perhaps
because PackageKit is a daemon and I didn't tap it on the shoulder to
reload the config.
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Re: /var/cache/PackageKit/metadata gets very big

[stan]

On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 10:22:36 -0400 (EDT)
"D. Hugh Redelmeier"  wrote:

> On my Fedora 23
> systems, /var/cache/PackageKit/metadata/updates/packages is full
> of .rpm files.  For example, 2.7G on my desktop.
> 
> /var/cache/PackageKit/metadata/fedora/packages has some too.
> 
> "sudo dnf clean packages" doesn't seem to change this.  What does it 
> change?

The dnf package storage is cleared.  PackageKit is independent of
dnf.

> 
> What is the purpose of this directory of RPMs?

Saved in case of problems.

> Why is it considered metadata?
> 
> The more obvious place would be /var/cache/PackageKit/downloads/
> Why isn't this used?

You'd have to ask the PackageKit devs.

> 
> Is there a way of transplanting the RPMs to another system so that
> downloading could be avoided?  I have half a dozen fedora systems and
> it seems a waste to download each update for each system.

rsync them into /var/cache/dnf/[hashed directory entry]/packages/ on the
other systems.  Then run dnf upgrade.  It will reuse the local
packages.  You might have to set dnf to keep rpms in /etc/dnf/dnf.conf,
and manually run dnf clean packages after the update.

> What is the proper way of deleting these RPMs to free up the space?  I
> ask because on some machines (but not all) the space is burdensome.

There is a setting in the file
/etc/PackageKit/PackageKit.conf

# Keep the packages after they have been downloaded
#KeepCache=false

Remove, as root, the hash mark on this configuration option, and
packages won't be kept.
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Re: how long is this going to be broke??

[Jack Craig]

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Rick Stevens  wrote:

> On 03/16/2016 09:14 AM, Mark Haney wrote:
>
>> And it's 'broken', not 'broke'.  It's the internet, man, use proper
>> English.  Geez.
>>
>
> The "unable to resolve host" message indicates you have a broken DNS
> system, apparently. On my system:
>
> [root@prophead ~]# host raw.githubusercontent.com
> raw.githubusercontent.com is an alias for github.map.fastly.net.
> github.map.fastly.net has address 23.235.47.133
>
> So get your DNS stuff fixed first. Further on, I don't recognize that
> as a standard repo, so you're sorta on your own.
>
> And as Mark said, the correct adjectival form is "broken".
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hi rick,

thanks for a *useful reply!* it used to be the sole purpose for this list's
existence.

my dns is configured to leverage my att isp service, i'll look harder at
the failure
(as well as what pkg/repo is invalid)..

lastly, to the  on this list, my software engineer career spanned
1977->2014
during which the terminology solely used by my peers was, 'bla-bla was
broke" !

but you newbies carry on with what ever lingo floats your boat!
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Re: rooting/flashing an android phone from fedora

[Ian Malone]

On 17 March 2016 at 14:50, Ranjan Maitra  wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 11:21:20 +0100 Sjoerd Mullender  wrote:
>
>> On 17/03/16 03:28, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I have been trying to install Cyanogenmod on a Samsung Galaxy Nexus using 
>> > Fedora 23. According to the documentation available at 
>> > http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_maguro I have to use adb and 
>> > fastboot which are available on fedora under android-tools. So, all of it 
>> > is downloaded without a hitch, but I can not get adb or fastboot to 
>> > "work". Reading on, I have tried the workarounds proposed, to no avail. It 
>> > appears that I need to add my username to a group plugdev but there is no 
>> > group by that name. I tried using
>> >
>> > sudo groupadd plugdev
>> >
>> > and that did add the group. Next, I tried:
>> >
>> > sudo gpasswd -a username plugdev
>> >
>> > as per http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/UDEV
>> >
>> > with my username in place but still:
>> >
>> > $ groups
>> > username wheel
>> >
>> > However, system-config-users indicates that the group plugdev is checked.
>> >
>> > Needless to say, I have come to a halt. Is there any workaround (or even a 
>> > better approach using Fedora) for this task?
>> >
>> > Many thanks and best wishes,
>>
>> Logout and back in.  Groups are initialized on login.
>
> Thanks! Btw, this next question is more general: is there any other option 
> other than logout and log back in to initialize groups? (I really do not 
> always want to logout and log back in.)
>

They're picked up at login. For your desktop environment that counts
as when you log in to the desktop. Your console windows will generally
be set to not start as a login shell, so they get whatever groups you
had when you started the desktop. It can be changed within a login
window by starting a new login, either by running "login" or "su -
USERNAMEHERE", or you can alter your terminal program settings to
start new windows as a new login.
http://superuser.com/questions/272061/reload-a-linux-users-group-assignments-without-logging-out
seems to suggest it might be possible without doing a login, but none
of those suggestions look very reliable (maybe newgrp if it works).


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Re: confusion setting up local email delivery, a war story

[Rick Stevens]

On 03/16/2016 08:35 AM, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:

I wished to set up a Fedora 23 notebook to pick up email via fetchmail.  A
problem I'd solved long ago on other distros and releases.

fetchmail failed because it tried to use SMTP with localhost to do the
local delivery and nobody was listening for SMTP.  That got removed
from the default install perhaps sometime around Fedora 20.

So I installed postfix.  That didn't work.  I may have done some other
things in desperation -- I was actually directing my user to do the
sysadmining via intermittent email between different cities.  This was a
month ago so my memory is foggy.


Can you recall if you installed postfix via RPM? I believe the
post-install part of the RPM is supposed to set up the /etc/alternatives
stuff as well as the appropriate symlinks to make it "spoof" ye olde
sendmail mechanisms.


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last update

[Patrick Dupre]

Hello,

Here are 2 warning messages that I got during the last update!

warning: file /lib/modules/4.3.6-201.fc22.x86_64/updates: remove failed: No 
such file or directory

Disabling early microcode, because kernel does not support it. 
CONFIG_MICROCODE_[AMD|INTEL]_EARLY!=y



Is it normal?


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Re: rooting/flashing an android phone from fedora

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2016-03-17 at 09:21 -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> On 03/17/2016 08:22 AM, Ian Malone wrote:
> > 
> > (maybe newgrp if it works).
> Yes, newgrp will launch a new login shell, which will have new group 
> memberships as specified.

Just note that this will not change the group membership for existing
processes, just for new ones descended from the new shell.

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seamonkey

[Patrick Dupre]

Hello,

Is there a plan to distribute the last version of seamonkey (2.40)
with fedora ?

Thank.

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Re: btrfs doesn't support filesystem swap

[Rick Stevens]

On 03/16/2016 06:03 PM, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote:

| From: Rick Stevens 

| Keep in mind that SuSE is not based in the United States and can, if
| they so choose, thumb their noses at US patent and copyright law. Red
| Hat IS based in the US and cannot (well, will not) knowingly violate US
| law.

1. US has a nasty habit of "extraterritoriality"

2. patents are on a country-by-country basis

3. copyrights are universal among Berne Convention signatories (US was a
latecomer).  That spells out minimum copyright rights but many
jurisdictions extend them.  Jurisprudence certainly varies.

4. CDDL vs GPLv2 is a copyright issue.

5. Germany doesn't have East Texas.


| This is is one reason MP3 decoders, for example, are not part of the
| standard Red Hat/Fedora/CentOS distributions as there is a patent on
| it. Not everyone agrees that the patent is legitimate or enforceable,
| but it is present.


Read that and laugh/cry.  It's been a LONG time since disclosure.


Which is why I said it may not be legitimate or enforceable. Red Hat
has, I think wisely, decided that the potential legal issues really
aren't worth getting involved in, so they don't distribute one.

If you want MP3, go download a (possibly illegal) decoder and have at
it. They won't stop you, but neither will they provide one themselves.
Similar issues come with DVD decoders (in fact, damned near any possibly
copyrightable media). Even most of the HTML5 stuff has latent issues
(some patents/copyrights owned by various entities). Most of them have
_claimed_ (emphasis mine) they'll never enforce them for use over the
web...but do you trust them?

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Re: Go back to standard kernel, after using rawhide kernel

[Michael Cronenworth]

On 03/17/2016 07:54 AM, Andy Campbell wrote:

How do I go back to using the current Fedora 23 kernel,

[snip]

By default, Fedora allows only 3 kernel versions installed at a time. In order to 
install an additional version you will first need to remove one. You can only remove 
a kernel version that you are not using.


Remove kernel (and kernel-core, kernel-modules, kernel-devel, etc.) for version 
4.5.0-0.rc7.git2.2.fc25. Then you should be able to perform a "dnf install" for a 
Fedora 23 kernel.


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Re: last update

[stan]

On Fri, 18 Mar 2016 17:36:18 +0100
"Patrick Dupre"  wrote:

>
> Here are 2 warning messages that I got during the last update!
> 
> warning: file /lib/modules/4.3.6-201.fc22.x86_64/updates: remove
> failed: No such file or directory
> 
> Disabling early microcode, because kernel does not support it.
> CONFIG_MICROCODE_[AMD|INTEL]_EARLY!=y
> 
> 
> 
> Is it normal?

yes. 

The first means you have no third party modules installed, 

The second means that you cannot update the microcode for your CPU
during boot.  If you're asking what it means, it doesn't matter to you.
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Re: btrfs doesn't support filesystem swap

[Chris Murphy]

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Neal Becker  wrote:
> If I had known that, I might not have chosen btrfs for my filesystems.  Came
> as a rude surprise when I suddenly needed more swap space, and couldn't do
> it.

You might check the FAQ and also the Gotchas list to make sure you're
not missing something else.
https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/FAQ
https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Gotchas

Swap expects to get a contiguous set of sectors, whether it's on a
partition or a filesystem. But Btrfs doesn't work this way at all, all
metadata and data extents are logical addresses internally, those get
translated by a chunk tree to reference device(s) and sector the data
is located on. The way balancing and allocation work, those chunks can
be moved at anytime to any device or even across multiple devices.
Getting swapfiles support means work for swap as well as Btrfs.
https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Project_ideas#Swap_file_support
https://lwn.net/Articles/625412/

But it's an open question what limitations this will have for a
snapshottable cow file system even if it gets finished. I'm kinda
thinking maybe the file would need to go in its own subvolume that
gets some kind of nosnapshot attribute? I'm not really sure but
snapshotting swap seems like a bad idea.

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Re: how long is this going to be broke??

[Rick Stevens]

On 03/16/2016 09:14 AM, Mark Haney wrote:

And it's 'broken', not 'broke'.  It's the internet, man, use proper
English.  Geez.


The "unable to resolve host" message indicates you have a broken DNS 
system, apparently. On my system:


[root@prophead ~]# host raw.githubusercontent.com
raw.githubusercontent.com is an alias for github.map.fastly.net.
github.map.fastly.net has address 23.235.47.133

So get your DNS stuff fixed first. Further on, I don't recognize that
as a standard repo, so you're sorta on your own.

And as Mark said, the correct adjectival form is "broken".
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Re: confusion setting up local email delivery, a war story

[D. Hugh Redelmeier]

| From: Rick Stevens 

| Can you recall if you installed postfix via RPM?

We installed it via dnf.  The logging of dnf is a bit confusing but it
appears in /var/log/dnr.rpm.log-20160214

"journalctl -t dnf" doesn't mention postfix.

"journalctl" , search for "postfix" finds a sudo of a "dnf install postfix".
Searches for other dnf installs comes up empty, so I guess I didn't
try sendmail or esmpt.

"journalctl" shows nothing about alternatives.

| I believe the
| post-install part of the RPM is supposed to set up the /etc/alternatives
| stuff as well as the appropriate symlinks to make it "spoof" ye olde
| sendmail mechanisms.

That's what I'd expect.  It has even done so on other machines I have.
I don't know why this machine doesn't have the mail alternatives set.
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Fedora 23 - Davmail - Thunderbird - localhost blacklisted

[Robin Laing]

For years I have been using Davmail on my workstation to get my email 
into Thunderbird at work from Exchange Server.  There is no POP access 
and never could get any mapi suggestions to work.


Upgrading from F20 to F23 via a clean install of F23 and moving my home 
partition to F23 and I am stuck because I cannot get my email to work.
After some diagnosis, I find that localhost is being added to a 
blacklist when Thunderbird tries to connect to the davmail program via 
localhost.


Someone on the Thunderbird mail list suggested that the problem is a 
Fedora issue because of the x-redhat-blacklist-warning in the debugging 
log I created.  The relevant part is pasted here.



179783488[7fca096544a0]: add word: x-redhat-blacklist-warning:relay
66.163.179.106 is blacklisted by a rbl  system
179783488[7fca096544a0]: adding word to corpus store:
x-redhat-blacklist-warning:relay 66.163.179.106 is blacklisted by a rbl
   system (Trait=1) (deltaCount=1)
-296753408[7fca09654da0]: Checking blacklist for host [localhost], host
record [7fc9de6c25e0].
-296753408[7fca09654da0]: Checking blacklist for host
[webproxy.xxx.xxx], host record [7fc9e07ffc40].
-296753408[7fca09654da0]: Checking blacklist for host
[webproxy.xxx.xxx], host record [7fc9e07ffc40].
-296753408[7fca09654da0]: Checking blacklist for host
[webproxy.xxx.xxx], host record [7fc9e07ffc40].
-296753408[7fca09654da0]: Adding address to blacklist for host
[localhost], host record [7fc9de6c25e0].
-296753408[7fca09654da0]: Successfully adding address [127.0.0.1] to
blacklist for host [localhost].

I am stuck as to where this "blacklist" is coming from on my machine.  I 
need to get localhost into a whitelist so email will work.


What program could be creating this blacklist on my machine?

I can post mail from Thunderbird but cannot get any mail due to this 
issue which is preventing me from moving to F23.


Robin

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Re: rooting/flashing an android phone from fedora

[Ranjan Maitra]

On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 11:21:20 +0100 Sjoerd Mullender  wrote:

> On 17/03/16 03:28, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I have been trying to install Cyanogenmod on a Samsung Galaxy Nexus using 
> > Fedora 23. According to the documentation available at 
> > http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_maguro I have to use adb and 
> > fastboot which are available on fedora under android-tools. So, all of it 
> > is downloaded without a hitch, but I can not get adb or fastboot to "work". 
> > Reading on, I have tried the workarounds proposed, to no avail. It appears 
> > that I need to add my username to a group plugdev but there is no group by 
> > that name. I tried using 
> > 
> > sudo groupadd plugdev
> > 
> > and that did add the group. Next, I tried: 
> > 
> > sudo gpasswd -a username plugdev
> > 
> > as per http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/UDEV
> > 
> > with my username in place but still: 
> > 
> > $ groups
> > username wheel
> > 
> > However, system-config-users indicates that the group plugdev is checked.
> > 
> > Needless to say, I have come to a halt. Is there any workaround (or even a 
> > better approach using Fedora) for this task?
> > 
> > Many thanks and best wishes,
> 
> Logout and back in.  Groups are initialized on login.

Thanks! Btw, this next question is more general: is there any other option 
other than logout and log back in to initialize groups? (I really do not always 
want to logout and log back in.)

Best wishes,
Ranjan

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Re: howto setup docker storage on btrfs f23?

[Fernando Cassia]

Fedrora is rather btrfs-hostile. (you know "not invented here syndrome").
If you want to use btrfs I'd suggest you use SUSE where it is supported.

Dec 2012: SUSE says BTRFS is ready to rock
https://www.linux.com/news/enterprise/systems-management/677226-suse-linux-says-btrfs-is-ready-to-rock

November 2014: OpenSUSE w BTRFS as default filesystem
https://news.opensuse.org/2014/11/12/what-to-expect-from-btrfs-on-opensuse-13-2/

I mean, just look at this bug, FFS...
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=864198

It is quite clear devs have been dragging their feet all this time...
FC

On 3/18/16, Neal Becker  wrote:
> Neal Becker wrote:
>
>> My root (and only) FS is btrfs.
>>  sudo systemctl status docker
>>   docker.service - Docker Application Container Engine
>>Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/docker.service; disabled;
>>vendor
>> preset: disabled)
>>Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2016-03-18 07:18:31 EDT;
>>18s
>> ago
>>  Docs: http://docs.docker.com
>>   Process: 19909 ExecStart=/usr/bin/docker daemon $OPTIONS
>> $DOCKER_STORAGE_OPTIONS $DOCKER_NETWORK_OPTIONS $INSECURE_REGISTRY
>> (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
>>  Main PID: 19909 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
>>
>> What do I need to start docker on btrfs on f23?
>>
>
> It appears that editing /etc/sysconfig/docker:
> OPTIONS='--storage-driver=btrfs --log-driver=journald'
>
> Has at least let docker start and run 'hello world'
>
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Re: howto setup docker storage on btrfs f23?

[James Hogarth]

On 18 Mar 2016 11:42, "Neal Becker"  wrote:
>
> Neal Becker wrote:
>
> > My root (and only) FS is btrfs.
> >  sudo systemctl status docker
> >   docker.service - Docker Application Container Engine
> >Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/docker.service; disabled;
> >vendor
> > preset: disabled)
> >Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri 2016-03-18 07:18:31 EDT;
> >18s
> > ago
> >  Docs: http://docs.docker.com
> >   Process: 19909 ExecStart=/usr/bin/docker daemon $OPTIONS
> > $DOCKER_STORAGE_OPTIONS $DOCKER_NETWORK_OPTIONS $INSECURE_REGISTRY
> > (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
> >  Main PID: 19909 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
> >
> > What do I need to start docker on btrfs on f23?
> >
>
> It appears that editing /etc/sysconfig/docker:
> OPTIONS='--storage-driver=btrfs --log-driver=journald'
>
> Has at least let docker start and run 'hello world'
>
>

In addition to the above if you enable updates-testing you can grab the
1.10 builds. With that version you can run with --selinux-enabled when
using the btrfs storage driver, rather than needing to make docker
permissive/unconfined.
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