Re: F30: dnf, yum, mock

[Pavel Raiskup]

Thanks for the report.

> Fedora 30 had several dnf-related updates today.  Since then, mock fails 
> with KeyError: 'yum.conf'

Yes, we started using `dnf.conf` for configs where `package_manager = dnf`.

But this was unfortunate thing, it led to several bugreports.  New release
of Mock is comming with the following fix:
https://github.com/rpm-software-management/mock/pull/486

After that, mock won't care whether you use `dnf.conf`, `yum.conf` or mix.

Sorry for inconvenience,
Pavel

> In the mockbuild directory, /var/lib/mock/Fedora.../root/etc/yum.conf is a
> link to yum/yum.conf, which is a 0 byte file.
> 
> In the corresponding file for epel-7 builds, last used before the 
> updates, yum/yum.conf is 3.2 kB
> 
> In the F30 host /etc/yum.conf is now 816 bytes
> 
> Perhaps I should try to revert.
> 
> John P
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Re: Password trouble

[Joe Zeff]

On 02/24/2020 01:06 PM, Beartooth wrote:

On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 14:49:25 -0500, Tim Evans wrote:


On 2/24/20 2:40 PM, Beartooth wrote:


Well, I tried it:

# passwd $ Changing password for user root.

Did you enter the literal "$"? That would've indicated an empty
variable, so would have been the same as entering "passwd blank".  Which
would have indicated you wanted to change root's password.

Yes. I took that as meaning I should. :-(  (My .sig, alas!, means
what it says.)


FYI, when you want to use the value of a variable, such as PATH, you use 
$PATH, such as in using echo $PATH to find out just what your current 
PATH is.  I used $USERNAME to show that I wanted you to use the username 
and not just USERNAME in that command.  This usage has been customary 
for decades, and although you don't claim to know much about such 
things, it never occurred to me that you might not understand it. 
Consider this a learning experience.

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Mate panel: false error report

[Beartooth]

I got an F31 message saying Mate-panel had crashed -- and it 
hadn't. This is on a machine which displays both on its own monitor and 
on my main one. (Both are behind an HDMI KVM-switch. Each has panels on 
all four sides, not identical.) The box that popped up the erroneous 
notice asked for a report, which I started, and then wanted to upload a 
whole core load, at many MiB and slowly. Stopping the upload killed the 
popped up box. 

If the Mate crew really does want all that dump, please tell me 
how and where to send it, or what to do instead, and I will.
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Re: Password trouble

[Beartooth]

On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 14:49:25 -0500, Tim Evans wrote:

> On 2/24/20 2:40 PM, Beartooth wrote:
> 
>>  Well, I tried it:
>> 
>> # passwd $ Changing password for user root.
> 
> Did you enter the literal "$"? That would've indicated an empty
> variable, so would have been the same as entering "passwd blank".  Which
> would have indicated you wanted to change root's password.

Yes. I took that as meaning I should. :-(  (My .sig, alas!, means 
what it says.)

But you nailed it:

# passwd xxx
Changing password for user xxx.
New password: 
BAD PASSWORD: The password fails the dictionary check - it is based on a 
dictionary word
Retype new password: 

[at this point I gave it her password anyway.]

passwd: all authentication tokens updated successfully.

Then I checked:
$ su - xxx
Password: 
[xxx@localhost ~]$ 

HOORAY! Many, many thanks! Now I can spare her a flight of stairs 
just for a quick email check. 
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Re: Password trouble

[Tim Evans]

On 2/24/20 2:40 PM, Beartooth wrote:


Well, I tried it:

# passwd $
Changing password for user root.


Did you enter the literal "$"? That would've indicated an empty 
variable, so would have been the same as entering "passwd blank".  Which 
would have indicated you wanted to change root's password.




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Re: Password trouble

[Beartooth]

On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 11:40:01 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:

> On 02/24/2020 11:23 AM, Beartooth wrote:
>>  useradd -h as root got me nothing that seemed to enable even root
>> to edit a user's data. (I tried -p and -u.) Can I do it??
> 
> Try this: first, use su - to become root.  Then, as root:
> 
> passwd $USERNAME
> 
> This will (or at least should) allow you to change the user's password
> without needing to know the old one.

Well, I tried it:

# passwd $
Changing password for user root.
New password: 

IOW, when I actually gave it one, it changed *root's* password, 
and I had to change that back. That's worse.
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Re: Password trouble

[Joe Zeff]

On 02/24/2020 11:23 AM, Beartooth wrote:

useradd -h as root got me nothing that seemed to enable even root
to edit a user's data. (I tried -p and -u.) Can I do it??


Try this: first, use su - to become root.  Then, as root:

passwd $USERNAME

This will (or at least should) allow you to change the user's password 
without needing to know the old one.

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Password trouble

[Beartooth]

I had set my wife an account on one of my computers recently, a 
Thinkpad E-series using MATE User Manager under F31. I suppose I may have 
failed to set her password, though I doubt that intensely.

 This is a machine that never leaves my desk, despite being a 
laptop. 

 I typed in her usual password for logging in; I got this:

su - tslg 
You are required to change your password immediately 
(administrator  enforced)
New password: 
BAD PASSWORD: The password fails the dictionary check - it is based on a 
dictionary word
su: Authentication token manipulation error

Just for the record, it consists of first letters of a line of 
poetry, and does not resemble any word in any of the several languages I 
know. (The app is probably just complaining of the length.) Nor had I 
enforced any such requirement, nor would I.

useradd -h as root got me nothing that seemed to enable even root 
to edit a user's data. (I tried -p and -u.) Can I do it?? 
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Suppose I try the obvious: delete and re-add her. (She has not yet 
touched this particular machine, so the account is still empty.) Will she 
or I then be able to set the password she chooses? 

I don't mind an OS warning me of hazards I can judge better than 
it can; but  I do take it amiss to be forbidden something trivial.
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Re: f31,kde :: dolphin autostarting without being requested

[Iosif Fettich]

Hi Adrian,

Hi! Some time ago, after some updates, i started to have the dolphin auto 
starting a window with my $HOME. This is not related to File Manager setting 
as my default is Konqueror..


Did anyone encounter anything similar?


Same behavior seen here.


Any idea what is going on?


Nope... Hopefully the next update will get rid of it ;)

However, following the advices seen in some other mails, I've checked 
what's running, and there was a dolphin running in daemon mode (no idea 
when/why that came to life - I don't think I 've ever used dolphin 
knowingly).


I then saved my sessions with the dolphin daemon shut down, logged
 out/in and there's no dolphin around any more.

(not sure now if I applied today's updates before or after the 
get-rid-of-dolphin manoeuver).


Best regards,

Iosif Fettich
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Re: f31,kde :: dolphin autostarting without being requested

[Mark C. Allman]

On 2/24/20 7:46 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Mon, 2020-02-24 at 12:45 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

I suggest you post this on the Fedora KDE list to see if other people
are seeing similar issues. It might be preferable to continue the
discussion there so as to avoid cross-posting.

I meant the OP of course, not you.

poc
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Agreed (post to KDE list).  Adrian -- are you going to post the question 
there?



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Re: f31,kde :: dolphin autostarting without being requested

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2020-02-24 at 12:45 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> I suggest you post this on the Fedora KDE list to see if other people
> are seeing similar issues. It might be preferable to continue the
> discussion there so as to avoid cross-posting.

I meant the OP of course, not you.

poc
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Re: f31,kde :: dolphin autostarting without being requested

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2020-02-24 at 06:55 -0500, Mark C. Allman wrote:
> On 2/24/20 6:28 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Mon, 2020-02-24 at 10:35 +0200, Adrian Sevcenco wrote:
> > > Hi! Some time ago, after some updates, i started to have the dolphin
> > > auto starting a window with my $HOME. This is not related to File
> > > Manager setting as my default is Konqueror..
> > > 
> > > Did anyone encounter anything similar?
> > > Any idea what is going on?
> > Have you enabled Restore Manually Saved Session, or Restore Previous
> > Session (System Settings->Startup and Shutdown)? Is Dolphin listed in
> > the Autostart apps?
> > 
> > The Fedora KDE list might be a better place to ask.
> > 
> > poc
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> FYI, I see the same "dolphin auto-starting" behavior.  Looking at 
> "Settings --> System Settings --> Startup and Shutdown", I have "restore 
> previous session" set, dolphin is not set to auto-start and dolphin 
> isn't running when I log off or restart. It is a bit odd.  I assumed 
> that it was a side effect of my cloud service (pCloud) starting.

I have Restore Manually Saved Session, but that session does include
several Dolphin panes. However I've noticed recently that I'm getting
one extra pane when I log in, so possibly there is a bug worth
reporting.

I suggest you post this on the Fedora KDE list to see if other people
are seeing similar issues. It might be preferable to continue the
discussion there so as to avoid cross-posting.

poc
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Re: f31,kde :: dolphin autostarting without being requested

[Mark C. Allman]

On 2/24/20 6:28 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Mon, 2020-02-24 at 10:35 +0200, Adrian Sevcenco wrote:

Hi! Some time ago, after some updates, i started to have the dolphin
auto starting a window with my $HOME. This is not related to File
Manager setting as my default is Konqueror..

Did anyone encounter anything similar?
Any idea what is going on?

Have you enabled Restore Manually Saved Session, or Restore Previous
Session (System Settings->Startup and Shutdown)? Is Dolphin listed in
the Autostart apps?

The Fedora KDE list might be a better place to ask.

poc
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FYI, I see the same "dolphin auto-starting" behavior.  Looking at 
"Settings --> System Settings --> Startup and Shutdown", I have "restore 
previous session" set, dolphin is not set to auto-start and dolphin 
isn't running when I log off or restart. It is a bit odd.  I assumed 
that it was a side effect of my cloud service (pCloud) starting.



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Re: f31,kde :: dolphin autostarting without being requested

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2020-02-24 at 10:35 +0200, Adrian Sevcenco wrote:
> Hi! Some time ago, after some updates, i started to have the dolphin 
> auto starting a window with my $HOME. This is not related to File 
> Manager setting as my default is Konqueror..
> 
> Did anyone encounter anything similar?
> Any idea what is going on?

Have you enabled Restore Manually Saved Session, or Restore Previous
Session (System Settings->Startup and Shutdown)? Is Dolphin listed in
the Autostart apps?

The Fedora KDE list might be a better place to ask.

poc
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f31,kde :: dolphin autostarting without being requested

[Adrian Sevcenco]

Hi! Some time ago, after some updates, i started to have the dolphin 
auto starting a window with my $HOME. This is not related to File 
Manager setting as my default is Konqueror..


Did anyone encounter anything similar?
Any idea what is going on?
Thanks!
Adrian




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