Re: dnfdragora freezing, pausing, crashing

2020-05-06 Thread Richard England

On 2020-05-06 14:41, Richard England wrote:

On 2020-05-06 12:06, antonio montagnani wrote:

Richard England ha scritto il 06/05/20 alle 21:02:

Steven,
I've checked all the locations I know of and using the techniques 
I'm aware of but I don't seem to be able to locate 
dnfdragora-1.1.1-6.fc32.noarch.rpm   All I turn up for F32 is 
dnfdragora-2.0.0-2.fc32.noarch.rpm


When I checked FC31 it only showed dnfdragora-1.1.1-3.fc31.noarch.rpm

Do you have a location where I can find 
dnfdragora-1.1.1-6.fc32.noarch.rpm


Thanks for your time.

~~R

On 2020-05-04 04:26, Steven Usdansky via users wrote:
The current version of dnfdragora has been crashing for me for 
about a week. Not wanting to investigate further, I downgraded to 
dnfdragora-1.1.1-6.fc32.noarch.rpm which still works

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Thank you, Steven and Antonio.

Downgrading to dnfdragora-1.1.1-6.fc32.noarch.rpm and 
dnfdragora-updater-1.1.1-6.fc32.noarch.rpm corrected the problem.


I'll see about entering a bugzilla on this

~~R


While preparing to enter the Bugzilla report I researched the existing 
bugs (more thoroughly apparently) and found this one


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1823184

The fix/workaround is to delete the file
~/.config/dnfdragora.yaml

A new file is created when you run dnfdragora the next time.

~~R

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Re: dual Ethernet adapters?

2020-05-06 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/6/20 8:13 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 2020-05-06 15:55, Samuel Sieb wrote:

Would I have to bond at both the Lixux side and
the switching hub side?


Yes, the switch has to understand the bonding or you can get very 
interesting results.


And I presume the hub have to be twice as fast as
your Ethernet cards to take advantage of it.


Most switches advertise that they can handle full duplex on all ports at 
once, so it's not the switch bandwidth that's the problem.  It's 
whatever you're connecting to.  If you try to download from another 
computer with only one network card, that's all you'll get.  This is 
more for servers where there are multiple clients trying to get data at 
the same time or for a computer that is downloading from multiple 
locations at once on the local network.

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Re: user crontab

2020-05-06 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 07May2020 13:19, Cameron Simpson  wrote:

On 06May2020 20:20, Robert Moskowitz  wrote:
I am reading up on esmtp which comes with the base install and 
seemingly no mta needed?


Anyway
https://linux.die.net/man/5/esmtprc

shows how to config for sending an email via esmtp to an mta, but 
not just local delivery...


The bottom of that manual entry describes the "mta" setting, and says 
that esmtp relies on a local MTA for local delivery (addresses without 
an "@"). So you'll need something additional anyway. May as well go 
straight to a proper MTA.


And then, to my chagrin, I reread and see it provides example "mta" 
values like:


   /usr/bin/procmail -d %T

So you may be good there.

Cheers,
Cameron Simpson 
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Re: user crontab

2020-05-06 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 06May2020 20:20, Robert Moskowitz  wrote:
I am reading up on esmtp which comes with the base install and 
seemingly no mta needed?


Anyway
https://linux.die.net/man/5/esmtprc

shows how to config for sending an email via esmtp to an mta, but not 
just local delivery...


The bottom of that manual entry describes the "mta" setting, and says 
that esmtp relies on a local MTA for local delivery (addresses without 
an "@"). So you'll need something additional anyway. May as well go 
straight to a proper MTA.


Had you considered a shell script? cron and most local commands should 
be using "sendmail -oi addresses... < message" to deliver. A shell 
script to accept those commands and copy the input to an mbox or Maildir 
file would be pretty simple...


Um, it doesn't solve delivering email to a different (local) user.

I'm sure I've seen a minimal local MTA somewhere, can't remember.  
Actually, I think it might have been an esmtp equivalent for purely 
remote-via-SMTP email. The inverse of what you want.


Cheers,
Cameron Simpson 
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Re: dual Ethernet adapters?

2020-05-06 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 2020-05-06 15:58, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 5/6/20 3:44 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

By the way, both are hubs.  "switch" is a short name for
a type of hub.


I suppose that's correct, but it's terminology that's not used now.  If 
you say "hub" to someone that's too young to have actually used one, 
they most likely won't know what you're talking about.  They're just 
switches now.


True.  That is why I put "switch" in there somewhere
so they can figure out what I am talking about.

With my customers I always use the word "hub" as that
they understand.  To them "switch" is what they turn
their lights on and off with.
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Re: dual Ethernet adapters?

2020-05-06 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 2020-05-06 15:55, Samuel Sieb wrote:

Would I have to bond at both the Lixux side and
the switching hub side?


Yes, the switch has to understand the bonding or you can get very 
interesting results.


And I presume the hub have to be twice as fast as
your Ethernet cards to take advantage of it.
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Re: user crontab

2020-05-06 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 5/6/20 3:00 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Do I need something like postfix with a minimal installation to get 
the output from my crontab? 



Technically, no.  If you only want to deliver the messages locally, then 
you only need an MDA, not an MTA.  In fact, you could just create 
/usr/sbin/sendmail as a simple shell script:


#!/bin/sh

(cat; echo) >> $HOME/cron-output
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Re: Problems and errors upgrading F31 to F32 [Solved]

2020-05-06 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via users
On Wed, 2020-05-06 at 18:47 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 2020-05-06 18:36, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote:
> > On Wed, 2020-05-06 at 12:14 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > > On 2020-05-06 12:04, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote:
> > > > Ed,
> > > > 
> > > > Running "dnf info " against each of the packages listed as
> > > > a
> > > > Problem returns either:
> > > > 
> > > > Repository   : @System
> > > > From repo: fedora
> > > > 
> > > > or
> > > > 
> > > > Repository   : @System
> > > > From repo: updates
> > > > 
> > > > My take is that they're genuine Fedora packages and not COPR.
> > > 
> > > How about "dnf info php-recode"?
> > 
> > Ed,
> > 
> > # dnf info php-recode
> > ...
> > Repository   : @System
> > From repo: updates
> > 
> 
> It would seem that Samuel is right yet again.  :-)
> 
> F32 is updated to php-7.4.5-1 and...
> 
> Tue Oct 01 2019 Remi Collet  - 7.4.0~RC3-1
> - update to 7.4.0RC3
> - bump API version to 20190902
> - drop wddx, recode and interbase extensions
> - add ffi extension
> - drop dependency on libargon2, use libsodium implementation
> - run test suite using 4 concurrent workers
> - cleanup unused conditional
> - add upstream patch to fix aarch64 build
> 
> So, best to add --allowerasing and note what gets removed.

Ed,

Bazinga! That's the solution. Thanks.

--Doc Savage
  Fairview Heights, IL 
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Re: user crontab

2020-05-06 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 06May2020 20:11, Robert Moskowitz  wrote:

Oh I have done a lot with postfix:

http://www.htt-consult.com/Centos7-mailserver.html


Excellent.


On 5/6/20 7:28 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
With postfix, I put the following settings at the top of 
/etc/postfix/main.cf:


better to use the

postconf -e

command had have the commands put in the proper places.  Or append to 
the end, as postfix reads main.cf in order and last command wins.


I can see that would avoid accidental replication (and loss of my custom 
setting). But personally I like to have the customisations at the top 
where I find them easy to see. Point taken though, postconf -e is more 
robust.



So I can do postfix, and if I have a problem I will ask,


If your experience is as deep as you say your expertise probably exceeds 
mine.



but I wanted just a local mail delivery like maybe esmtp.


Then I'm probably not helpful. I like a full mail system because I want 
to locally queue. (Eg respond to email while offline, have it go out 
later.)


Cheers,
Cameron Simpson 
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Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-06 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-07 10:30, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>
>
> On 5/6/20 10:21 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 2020-05-07 10:14, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>>
>>> On 5/6/20 10:03 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
 On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 6:35:15 PM MST Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> Ugh.
>
> And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background.
>
> This overly blue and bright background has to go!!!
 Yeah, it came up on the devel list a few weeks ago, it led users to believe
 their graphics drivers were having issues. I'm not really surprised it 
 didn't
 get resolve though. As a plus, it's not the default for KDE Spin, it seems.

>>> One person on the list sent me some nice soft blue backgrounds that if I 
>>> have to use blue they are miles better.
>>>
>>> I don't like backgrounds with any sort of picture.  Soothing soft plain 
>>> colors for me.  Perhaps a green would be better...
>>>
>> You said you're using Xfce, yes?
>>
>> If you want a solid color background, then why didn't you select "Style: 
>> None" and then
>> "Color: Solid color" and then pick the color you want?
>>
>>
> I am not seeing this as a feature in the Desktop settings dialog.
>
> What are you using for this?
>
>

Desktop Settings.  Here is a screenshot.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1a9i45W69SrCUnAxrz9yyw0qICJBCIRf9/view?usp=sharing

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[389-users] Re: replication problems

2020-05-06 Thread William Brown


> On 6 May 2020, at 22:40, Alberto Viana  wrote:
> 
> William,
> 
> Here's:
> 
> (gdb) frame 3
> #3  0x77b71627 in slapi_valueset_done (vs=0x7fffac022aa8) at 
> ldap/servers/slapd/valueset.c:471
> 471PR_ASSERT((vs->sorted == NULL) || (vs->num < 
> VALUESET_ARRAY_SORT_THRESHOLD) || ((vs->num >= VALUESET_ARRAY_SORT_THRESHOLD) 
> && (vs->sorted[0] < vs->num)));
> (gdb) print *vs->sorted@21
> $1 = {18446744073709551615 }

Ahhh sorry, maybe it should be vs->sorted@21 (no *)

> 
> Everything has been a quite chaotic to me too.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Alberto Viana
> 
> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 10:38 PM William Brown  wrote:
> So reading these frames, it's likely that this is the assert condition 
> failing:
> 
> (vs->num >= VALUESET_ARRAY_SORT_THRESHOLD) && (vs->sorted[0] < vs->num)
> 
> This is because vs->sorted exists, and vs->num >= threshhold (10), so as a 
> result, this would indicate that vs->sorted[0] has a problem where it must be 
> equal to or greater than vs->num.
> 
> Is is still possible to seethe content of the vs->sorted array? I think you 
> could do:
> 
> frame 3
> print *vs->sorted@21
> 
> Sorry about the delay in responding to this, things have been hectic for me. 
> 
> 
> 
> > On 29 Apr 2020, at 23:40, Alberto Viana  wrote:
> > 
> > William,
> > 
> > Here's:
> > 
> > Frame9:
> > https://gist.github.com/albertocrj/87bf4a010bf2f7e1f97ef3ee72ee44df
> > 
> > Frame7:
> > https://gist.github.com/albertocrj/840f15e5df10cad0e2977cd030abdba4
> > 
> > Frame6:
> > https://gist.github.com/albertocrj/befb7144b86bc4af86b9a2e0be0293a1
> > 
> > Thank you
> > 
> > Alberto Viana
> > 
> > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:09 PM William Brown  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > On 23 Apr 2020, at 06:59, Alberto Viana  wrote:
> > > 
> > > Mark,
> > > 
> > > On frame 9:
> > > 
> > > It's go until p *mod->mod_bvalues[20]
> > > 
> > > (gdb)  p *mod->mod_bvalues[21]
> > > Cannot access memory at address 0x0
> > > 
> > > On frame 7:
> > > It's go until p *replacevals[20]
> > > 
> > > (gdb) p *replacevals[21]
> > > Cannot access memory at address 0x0
> > 
> > Yep, but we need to see all the outputs from 0 -> 20 and 0 -> 21 
> > respectively :) So copy paste the full out put please! Thanks for your 
> > patience with this. 
> > 
> > > 
> > > On frame 6:
> > > (gdb) frame 6
> > > #6  0x77ada6fa in entry_delete_present_values_wsi_multi_valued 
> > > (e=0x7fff8401f500, type=0x7fff84012780 "memberOf", vals=0x0, 
> > > csn=0x7fff967fb340, urp=8, mod_op=2, replacevals=0x7fff840127c0)
> > > at ldap/servers/slapd/entrywsi.c:777
> > > 777valueset_purge(a, >a_present_values, csn);
> > > (gdb) print *a
> > > $278 = {a_type = 0x7fff84022b30 "memberOf", a_present_values = {num = 21, 
> > > max = 32, sorted = 0x7fff84023ad0, va = 0x7fff84022b50}, a_flags = 4, 
> > > a_plugin = 0x6c7e80, a_deleted_values = {num = 0, max = 0,
> > > sorted = 0x0, va = 0x0}, a_listtofree = 0x0, a_next = 0x7fff84023c00, 
> > > a_deletioncsn = 0x7fff840247c0, a_mr_eq_plugin = 0x0, a_mr_ord_plugin = 
> > > 0x0, a_mr_sub_plugin = 0x0}
> > > (gdb) print *a->a_present_values
> > > Structure has no component named operator*.
> > > (gdb) print *a->a_present_values.va[0]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > Alberto Viana
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 4:57 PM Mark Reynolds  
> > > wrote:
> > > Goto frame 9 and start printing the mod:
> > > 
> > > (gdb) p *mod
> > > 
> > > (gdb) print i
> > > 
> > > (gdb) p *mod->mod_bvalues[0]
> > > 
> > > (gdb) p *mod->mod_bvalues[1]
> > > 
> > > ... Keep doing that unitl its NULL
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Then goto frame 7
> > > 
> > > (gdb) p *replacevals
> > > 
> > > (gdb) p *replacevals[0]
> > > 
> > > (gdb) p *replacevals[1]
> > > 
> > > --- Keeping doing this until its NULL
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Then goto frame 6
> > > 
> > > (gdb) print *a
> > > 
> > > (gdb) print *a->a_present_values
> > > 
> > > (gdb) print *a->a_present_values.va[0]
> > > 
> > > (gdb) print *a->a_present_values.va[1]
> > > 
> > > --- Keeping doing this until its NULL
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mark
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 4/22/20 3:43 PM, Alberto Viana wrote:
> > >> Mark,
> > >> 
> > >> Yes, I'm  in frame 3, and No, I do not know what modification is, sorry. 
> > >> I think thats what I'm  trying to find out, why one of the servers 
> > >> always crash if I enable the replication between 2 389.
> > >> 
> > >> Maybe reconfigure my replication, enable debug log and see where stops?
> > >> 
> > >> What else can I do?
> > >> 
> > >> Thanks
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 4:34 PM Mark Reynolds  
> > >> wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> On 4/22/20 3:27 PM, Alberto Viana wrote:
> > >>> Mark,
> > >>> 
> > >>> Here's: 
> > >>> (gdb) where
> > >>> #0  0x7455399f in raise () at /lib64/libc.so.6
> > >>> #1  0x7453dcf5 in abort () at /lib64/libc.so.6
> > >>> #2  0x75430cd0 in PR_Assert () at /lib64/libnspr4.so
> > >>> #3  0x77b71627 in slapi_valueset_done 

Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 5/6/20 10:21 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-05-07 10:14, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


On 5/6/20 10:03 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:

On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 6:35:15 PM MST Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Ugh.

And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background.

This overly blue and bright background has to go!!!

Yeah, it came up on the devel list a few weeks ago, it led users to believe
their graphics drivers were having issues. I'm not really surprised it didn't
get resolve though. As a plus, it's not the default for KDE Spin, it seems.


One person on the list sent me some nice soft blue backgrounds that if I have 
to use blue they are miles better.

I don't like backgrounds with any sort of picture.  Soothing soft plain colors 
for me.  Perhaps a green would be better...


You said you're using Xfce, yes?

If you want a solid color background, then why didn't you select "Style: None" 
and then
"Color: Solid color" and then pick the color you want?



I am not seeing this as a feature in the Desktop settings dialog.

What are you using for this?

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Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-06 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-07 10:14, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>
>
> On 5/6/20 10:03 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 6:35:15 PM MST Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>> Ugh.
>>>
>>> And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background.
>>>
>>> This overly blue and bright background has to go!!!
>> Yeah, it came up on the devel list a few weeks ago, it led users to believe
>> their graphics drivers were having issues. I'm not really surprised it didn't
>> get resolve though. As a plus, it's not the default for KDE Spin, it seems.
>>
> One person on the list sent me some nice soft blue backgrounds that if I have 
> to use blue they are miles better.
>
> I don't like backgrounds with any sort of picture.  Soothing soft plain 
> colors for me.  Perhaps a green would be better...
>

You said you're using Xfce, yes?

If you want a solid color background, then why didn't you select "Style: None" 
and then
"Color: Solid color" and then pick the color you want? 


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Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 5/6/20 10:03 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:

On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 6:35:15 PM MST Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Ugh.

And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background.

This overly blue and bright background has to go!!!

Yeah, it came up on the devel list a few weeks ago, it led users to believe
their graphics drivers were having issues. I'm not really surprised it didn't
get resolve though. As a plus, it's not the default for KDE Spin, it seems.

One person on the list sent me some nice soft blue backgrounds that if I 
have to use blue they are miles better.


I don't like backgrounds with any sort of picture.  Soothing soft plain 
colors for me.  Perhaps a green would be better...


Anyway I am off the default.  It is AWFUL.

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GNOME audio routing problem with Bluetooth headset

2020-05-06 Thread Gordon Messmer
I have a new problem with GNOME on Fedora 32.  Since upgrading, I'm 
unable to make my Bose QC 35 II headset the default audio device.


I'm not having trouble pairing, nor any general Bluetooth audio problem. 
 I can play audio through VLC, for example, because that application 
lets me select my audio sink.  If I select the headset as an audio 
output in VLC, then audio is played back on the headset as expected.


However, the GNOME "Sound" preferences don't work as expected.  I see 
the headset there when it is on and connected.  If I select the headset 
as the Output Device, and then scroll down to select an Alert Sound at 
the bottom of that preferences panel, those alerts will play back on the 
headset.  Nothing else that I've tested does.  For example, the audio 
tests from the Output Device "Test" button will play back on whichever 
audio device was selected before I switched to the headset.


The problem seems to be specific to the headset.  If I have an external 
monitor connected with headphones plugged in, I'll have Speakers - 
Built-in Audio as on option, and HDMI as another.  Switching between 
those works as expected.  However, I can't switch from either of them to 
the headset.


If I use "journalctl -f", I can see the following log messages when I 
successfully switch between other audio output devices.  When I switch 
to the headset, there are no log messages.


May 06 18:46:02 vagabond.private.dragonsdawn.net rtkit-daemon[1117]: 
Supervising 1 threads of 1 processes of 1 users.
May 06 18:46:02 vagabond.private.dragonsdawn.net rtkit-daemon[1117]: 
Successfully made thread 17248 of process 1446 (/usr/bin/pulseaudio) 
owned by '55665' RT at priority 5.
May 06 18:46:02 vagabond.private.dragonsdawn.net rtkit-daemon[1117]: 
Supervising 2 threads of 1 processes of 1 users.

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Re: F32 - terrible background

2020-05-06 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 6:35:15 PM MST Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> Ugh.
> 
> And I had the nerve to complain about the F30 background.
> 
> This overly blue and bright background has to go!!!

Yeah, it came up on the devel list a few weeks ago, it led users to believe 
their graphics drivers were having issues. I'm not really surprised it didn't 
get resolve though. As a plus, it's not the default for KDE Spin, it seems.

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Re: LibreOffice print dialog too tall for my screen

2020-05-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Found that if I hold down alt key and left mouse button I can use mouse 
ball to move the dialog up so I can get to the OK.


But this is not a solution to a dialog too big for its britches.

On 5/6/20 9:53 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

F30 with Xfce

Screen size 1280 x 768

The dialog goes from just below the top panel to below the bottom of 
the screen so the print button is lost.


I cannot resize this dialog.  It is locked.  I cannot get it to move 
up the screen (releases ago I had a similar problem and there was some 
magic key combination to make this possible?)


There are only 2 tabs on the top of the dialog for General and 
LibreOffice Writer.  Back in F30 there were 4 tabs and the dialog box 
was much shorter.


I cannot find any way to configure this dialog nor move it around.

And I need to print something...

Help?

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LibreOffice print dialog too tall for my screen

2020-05-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz

F30 with Xfce

Screen size 1280 x 768

The dialog goes from just below the top panel to below the bottom of the 
screen so the print button is lost.


I cannot resize this dialog.  It is locked.  I cannot get it to move up 
the screen (releases ago I had a similar problem and there was some 
magic key combination to make this possible?)


There are only 2 tabs on the top of the dialog for General and 
LibreOffice Writer.  Back in F30 there were 4 tabs and the dialog box 
was much shorter.


I cannot find any way to configure this dialog nor move it around.

And I need to print something...

Help?

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Re: user crontab

2020-05-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 5/6/20 7:28 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:

On 06May2020 18:15, Robert Moskowitz  wrote:

On 5/6/20 6:08 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

MAILTO=rgm

[...]
Can you point me to some guide for this? Local delivery for viewing 
with mutt is ok.  I don't have to send it to my mail server


sendmail would take me running postfix locally.

Or would sendmail work for local store delivery?  Hmm.


I run postfix locally on my laptops. And I read mail with mutt.



I am reading up on esmtp which comes with the base install and seemingly 
no mta needed?


Anyway

https://linux.die.net/man/5/esmtprc

shows how to config for sending an email via esmtp to an mta, but not 
just local delivery...


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Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-07 08:00, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 4:41:27 PM MST John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>> On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 4:10:56 PM MST John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>>
>>>  "Wired connection 1"..
>>
>> Looking into this some more, looks like NetworkManager doesn't recognize
>> that  it's associated with an actual device, which I imagine is why it's
>> not coming up on boot.. I may be horribly wrong, I'm not incredibly
>> familiar with NetworkManager.
> Well, rebooted and now NetworkManager recognizes that it's enp1s0, and it 
> works without network-scripts installed. Don't know what changed, but I'll 
> take it.
>

FWIW, you can do

sudo nmcli connection modify Wired\ connection\ 1 connection.id eth0

to change the name to "eth0" or whatever you like to make it easier.

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Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 5:05:10 PM MST Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> On 5/6/20 7:13 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> 
> > On 5/6/20 3:55 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
> > 
> >> On Wed, 6 May 2020 15:34:09 -0700
> >> Samuel Sieb wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> I have no network-scripts package, but everything still goes into
> >>> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Weird. I thought there was nothing there, at least when I first
> >> ran the live image, but it does have files stored there now
> >> that I've got everything configured.
> >
> >
> >
> > The install process doesn't create any network connections on the 
> > installed system.
> 
> 
> I think this is part of firstboot.
> 
> I used my ethernet for install and first manual package installs.  I 
> have a broadcom wifi that I need the broadcom-wl installed so a bit of 
> chicken and egg.  But as I shared I have the network-script files.

Sorry, yep it is part of firstboot.

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Re: user crontab

2020-05-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz

Cameron,

Oh I have done a lot with postfix:

http://www.htt-consult.com/Centos7-mailserver.html

On 5/6/20 7:28 PM, Cameron Simpson wrote:

On 06May2020 18:15, Robert Moskowitz  wrote:

On 5/6/20 6:08 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

MAILTO=rgm

[...]
Can you point me to some guide for this? Local delivery for viewing 
with mutt is ok.  I don't have to send it to my mail server


sendmail would take me running postfix locally.

Or would sendmail work for local store delivery?  Hmm.


I run postfix locally on my laptops. And I read mail with mutt.

Installing postfix is easy, _and_ being a proper mail system it also 
lets your queue and send. All the MAILTO= in crontab relies on is a 
"sendmail" executable, and all UNIX mail systems provide one. So 
installing postfix gets you one.


(So does installing exim or sendmail or qmail etc, but I like 
postfix's configuration.)


With postfix, I put the following settings at the top of 
/etc/postfix/main.cf:


better to use the

postconf -e

command had have the commands put in the proper places.  Or append to 
the end, as postfix reads main.cf in order and last command wins.


I go way back years on the postfix list on things like this.



   # where to send email for off-this-host - I run something special, 
   # but your ISP's mail service or the like should do just fine

   relayhost = 127.0.0.2:1025

   # what domain email from this machine has - I run my own domain
   mydomain = cskk.id.au
   myorigin = cskk.id.au

   # what domains get delivered locally
   mydestination = $mydomain, $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost

   # postfix will accept SMTP - my laptop only listens on localhost
   inet_interfaces = localhost

   # don't relay for anyone else, just the laptop
   mynetworks_style = host
   mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8, [::1]/128

   # support the very cool "basic-address+suffix@" stuff
   recipient_delimiter = +

   # my usual upstream SMTP service gets stupid if you try to be too 
   # enthusiastic

   default_destination_concurrency_limit = 1

The supplied main.cf has almost all the interesting settings set out 
already, with comments. Those I change I comment out in the main file 
and put the changed setting at the top of the file.


Happy to help debug your setup.


So I can do postfix, and if I have a problem I will ask, but I wanted 
just a local mail delivery like maybe esmtp.


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Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 5/6/20 7:13 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 5/6/20 3:55 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Wed, 6 May 2020 15:34:09 -0700
Samuel Sieb wrote:


I have no network-scripts package, but everything still goes into
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts.


Weird. I thought there was nothing there, at least when I first
ran the live image, but it does have files stored there now
that I've got everything configured.


The install process doesn't create any network connections on the 
installed system.


I think this is part of firstboot.

I used my ethernet for install and first manual package installs.  I 
have a broadcom wifi that I need the broadcom-wl installed so a bit of 
chicken and egg.  But as I shared I have the network-script files.


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Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 4:41:27 PM MST John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 4:10:56 PM MST John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> 
> > On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 3:59:32 PM MST Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > On 5/6/20 3:48 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > On 2020-05-07 06:19, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >> On 5/6/20 3:10 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> > > >> 
> > > >> 
> > > >> 
> > > >>> On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 2:50:27 PM MST Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> 
> > >  On 5/6/20 2:46 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Anyone know if this is just broken now, and what the workaround
> > > > is
> > > > if
> > > > so?
> > > > I'm fine manually setting it on boot for now, but this is causing
> > > > a
> > > > lot
> > > > of issues..
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  Are you using NetworkManager or something else?
> > >  What do you mean they aren't being read?  What is happening or not
> > >  happening?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I'm using NetworkManager. The interface is present, with the
> > > >>> correct
> > > >>> name, but didn't get an IP address assigned.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> My ethernet port is called enp0s25, change the following command as
> > > >> necessary.  Run "nmcli c show enp0s25" to see what NetworkManager
> > > >> knows
> > > >> about the connection.  See if there's anything missing.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I would first run just "nmcli c" to see what the name of the
> > > > connection
> > > > is.  The name is often not equal to the device.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thank you, that's a good point, considering I did exactly that to find 
> > > out mine...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Useful info, that returned that it is actually managed by NetworkManager,
> > as
> 
> >  "Wired connection 1"..
> 
> 
> Looking into this some more, looks like NetworkManager doesn't recognize
> that  it's associated with an actual device, which I imagine is why it's
> not coming up on boot.. I may be horribly wrong, I'm not incredibly
> familiar with NetworkManager.

Well, rebooted and now NetworkManager recognizes that it's enp1s0, and it 
works without network-scripts installed. Don't know what changed, but I'll 
take it.

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Splentity

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Re: grub has wrong path for Windows boot

2020-05-06 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/6/20 4:38 PM, sean darcy wrote:

I'm on FC31, dual boot.

os-prober finds the Windows efi boot partition. /dev/nvme0n1p1

sudo mount /dev/nvme0n1p1 nvme0n1p1/
$ ls nvme0n1p1/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
nvme0n1p1/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi

But boot from the grub menu fails:

'/efi/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi' not found

because the grub path use lower case efi, while the the actual path has 
it capitalized.


If you edit the boot command to be uppercase, does it work?  The 
partition is vfat, so it's supposed to be case-insensitive.

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Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 4:10:56 PM MST John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 3:59:32 PM MST Samuel Sieb wrote:
> 
> > On 5/6/20 3:48 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > On 2020-05-07 06:19, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > >> On 5/6/20 3:10 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >>> On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 2:50:27 PM MST Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> >  On 5/6/20 2:46 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Anyone know if this is just broken now, and what the workaround is
> > > if
> > > so?
> > > I'm fine manually setting it on boot for now, but this is causing a
> > > lot
> > > of issues..
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  Are you using NetworkManager or something else?
> >  What do you mean they aren't being read?  What is happening or not
> >  happening?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm using NetworkManager. The interface is present, with the correct
> > >>> name, but didn't get an IP address assigned.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> My ethernet port is called enp0s25, change the following command as
> > >> necessary.  Run "nmcli c show enp0s25" to see what NetworkManager
> > >> knows
> > >> about the connection.  See if there's anything missing.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > I would first run just "nmcli c" to see what the name of the connection
> > > is.  The name is often not equal to the device.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thank you, that's a good point, considering I did exactly that to find 
> > out mine...
> 
> 
> Useful info, that returned that it is actually managed by NetworkManager, as
>  "Wired connection 1"..

Looking into this some more, looks like NetworkManager doesn't recognize that 
it's associated with an actual device, which I imagine is why it's not coming 
up on boot.. I may be horribly wrong, I'm not incredibly familiar with 
NetworkManager.

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grub has wrong path for Windows boot

2020-05-06 Thread sean darcy

I'm on FC31, dual boot.

os-prober finds the Windows efi boot partition. /dev/nvme0n1p1

sudo mount /dev/nvme0n1p1 nvme0n1p1/
$ ls nvme0n1p1/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
nvme0n1p1/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi

But boot from the grub menu fails:

'/efi/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi' not found

because the grub path use lower case efi, while the the actual path has 
it capitalized.


Where does grub store the path it uses for the Windows boot manager ?

sean

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Re: user crontab

2020-05-06 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 06May2020 18:15, Robert Moskowitz  wrote:

On 5/6/20 6:08 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

MAILTO=rgm

[...]
Can you point me to some guide for this?  Local delivery for viewing 
with mutt is ok.  I don't have to send it to my mail server


sendmail would take me running postfix locally.

Or would sendmail work for local store delivery?  Hmm.


I run postfix locally on my laptops. And I read mail with mutt.

Installing postfix is easy, _and_ being a proper mail system it also 
lets your queue and send. All the MAILTO= in crontab relies on is a 
"sendmail" executable, and all UNIX mail systems provide one. So 
installing postfix gets you one.


(So does installing exim or sendmail or qmail etc, but I like postfix's 
configuration.)


With postfix, I put the following settings at the top of 
/etc/postfix/main.cf:


   # where to send email for off-this-host - I run something special, 
   # but your ISP's mail service or the like should do just fine

   relayhost = 127.0.0.2:1025

   # what domain email from this machine has - I run my own domain
   mydomain = cskk.id.au
   myorigin = cskk.id.au

   # what domains get delivered locally
   mydestination = $mydomain, $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, localhost

   # postfix will accept SMTP - my laptop only listens on localhost
   inet_interfaces = localhost

   # don't relay for anyone else, just the laptop
   mynetworks_style = host
   mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8, [::1]/128

   # support the very cool "basic-address+suffix@" stuff
   recipient_delimiter = +

   # my usual upstream SMTP service gets stupid if you try to be too 
   # enthusiastic

   default_destination_concurrency_limit = 1

The supplied main.cf has almost all the interesting settings set out 
already, with comments. Those I change I comment out in the main file 
and put the changed setting at the top of the file.


Happy to help debug your setup.

Cheers,
Cameron Simpson 
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Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/6/20 4:18 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Wed, 6 May 2020 16:13:50 -0700
Samuel Sieb wrote:


The install process doesn't create any network connections on the
installed system.


But I was able to access the network :-).


NetworkManager will automatically configure an ethernet connection if it 
finds one.

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Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/6/20 4:09 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:

On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 3:21:46 PM MST Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 5/6/20 3:15 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:

While this did solve it, I wonder why it was working in F31, but stopped
in F32, if that was the issue. There should probably be a warning upon
upgrade, or something like that, because using
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is not at all uncommon..



You installed "network-scripts" and that made it work?  That package is
deprecated and going away soon.  You should make sure it works without that.


Well, that's just more confusing as it turns out.. I configured this one with
the GUI in Anaconda, but this is where it put the connection info. The only
thing I've got in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ is a VPN
configuration. I installed this system as F31 via KDE Spin's installer, if
that makes a difference.


Careful, I think you're confusing two things here.

There's the "network-scripts" package that contains some scripts for 
"ifup/down", etc.  Those scripts shouldn't be used and are going away. 
They will give you a warning if you run them.  NetworkManager provides 
it's own versions of "ifup/down" that are just wrappers for "nmcli".


Then there's the directory /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts that contains 
the ifcfg-* files.  That is not going away and NetworkManager reads 
interface info from there.  /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ is 
kind of the native config for NetworkManager and at least VPNs get put 
there.  Other distributions use that more, probably because ifcfg-* is a 
historical Redhat thing.


As far as I know, the installer doesn't create any network connection 
configs for the installed system.  Those get created when you start it.

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Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 6 May 2020 16:13:50 -0700
Samuel Sieb wrote:

> The install process doesn't create any network connections on the 
> installed system.

But I was able to access the network :-).
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Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/6/20 3:55 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Wed, 6 May 2020 15:34:09 -0700
Samuel Sieb wrote:


I have no network-scripts package, but everything still goes into
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts.


Weird. I thought there was nothing there, at least when I first
ran the live image, but it does have files stored there now
that I've got everything configured.


The install process doesn't create any network connections on the 
installed system.

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Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 3:59:32 PM MST Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 5/6/20 3:48 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> 
> > On 2020-05-07 06:19, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > 
> >> On 5/6/20 3:10 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 2:50:27 PM MST Samuel Sieb wrote:
> >>> 
>  On 5/6/20 2:46 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > Anyone know if this is just broken now, and what the workaround is if
> > so?
> > I'm fine manually setting it on boot for now, but this is causing a
> > lot
> > of issues..
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Are you using NetworkManager or something else?
>  What do you mean they aren't being read?  What is happening or not
>  happening?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm using NetworkManager. The interface is present, with the correct
> >>> name, but didn't get an IP address assigned.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> My ethernet port is called enp0s25, change the following command as
> >> necessary.  Run "nmcli c show enp0s25" to see what NetworkManager knows
> >> about the connection.  See if there's anything missing.
> 
> > 
> > I would first run just "nmcli c" to see what the name of the connection
> > is.  The name is often not equal to the device.
> 
> 
> Thank you, that's a good point, considering I did exactly that to find 
> out mine...

Useful info, that returned that it is actually managed by NetworkManager, as 
"Wired connection 1"..

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Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 3:21:46 PM MST Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 5/6/20 3:15 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> 
> > On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 3:01:28 PM MST Tom Horsley wrote:
> > 
> >> On Wed, 06 May 2020 14:46:35 -0700
> >> John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Anyone know if this is just broken now, and what the workaround is if
> >>> so?
> >>> I'm  fine manually setting it on boot for now, but this is causing a
> >>> lot
> >>> of issues..
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Probably don't have network-scripts installed. Ever since about fedora
> >> 29 I think they haven't shipped network-scripts by default, you have
> >> to fetch them via:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> dnf install network-scripts
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> (which can be tricky if you have no network :-).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I finally gave up and after a monster struggle got my networking
> >> functioning with just NetworkManager when I installed fedora 32.
> > 
> > 
> > While this did solve it, I wonder why it was working in F31, but stopped
> > in F32, if that was the issue. There should probably be a warning upon
> > upgrade, or something like that, because using
> > /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is not at all uncommon..
> 
> 
> You installed "network-scripts" and that made it work?  That package is 
> deprecated and going away soon.  You should make sure it works without that.

Well, that's just more confusing as it turns out.. I configured this one with 
the GUI in Anaconda, but this is where it put the connection info. The only 
thing I've got in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ is a VPN 
configuration. I installed this system as F31 via KDE Spin's installer, if 
that makes a difference.

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Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/6/20 3:48 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-05-07 06:19, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 5/6/20 3:10 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:

On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 2:50:27 PM MST Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 5/6/20 2:46 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:


Anyone know if this is just broken now, and what the workaround is if so?
I'm fine manually setting it on boot for now, but this is causing a lot
of issues..



Are you using NetworkManager or something else?
What do you mean they aren't being read?  What is happening or not
happening?


I'm using NetworkManager. The interface is present, with the correct name, but
didn't get an IP address assigned.


My ethernet port is called enp0s25, change the following command as necessary.  Run 
"nmcli c show enp0s25" to see what NetworkManager knows about the connection.  
See if there's anything missing.


I would first run just "nmcli c" to see what the name of the connection is.  
The name is often not equal to the
device.


Thank you, that's a good point, considering I did exactly that to find 
out mine...

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Re: dual Ethernet adapters?

2020-05-06 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/6/20 3:44 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

By the way, both are hubs.  "switch" is a short name for
a type of hub.


I suppose that's correct, but it's terminology that's not used now.  If 
you say "hub" to someone that's too young to have actually used one, 
they most likely won't know what you're talking about.  They're just 
switches now.

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Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 6 May 2020 15:34:09 -0700
Samuel Sieb wrote:

> I have no network-scripts package, but everything still goes into 
> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts.

Weird. I thought there was nothing there, at least when I first
ran the live image, but it does have files stored there now
that I've got everything configured.
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Re: dual Ethernet adapters?

2020-05-06 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/6/20 3:45 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 2020-05-06 15:11, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Wed, 6 May 2020 15:02:08 -0700
ToddAndMargo via users wrote:


Not to ask too silly a question, but what happens when
you have dual Ethernet adapters and you hook both of
them to your (switching) hub?


Mostly you need something that supports "bonding" to
go faster. As near as I can tell, 99.9% of all traffic
always goes through one ethernet if they are both configured
on the same subnet.


Would I have to bond at both the Lixux side and
the switching hub side?


Yes, the switch has to understand the bonding or you can get very 
interesting results.

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[389-users] Re: pwadmin not working

2020-05-06 Thread William Brown
Remember to *unset* it after you make your change, else anyone with write to 
userPassword can bypass your password policy. Generally this means a userc that 
is able to change their own password through a self mod, can then bypass 
pwpolicy. 

> On 7 May 2020, at 01:49, Alberto Viana  wrote:
> 
> William,
> 
> Set nsslapd-allow-hashed-passwords and pwadmin in global policy works as 
> expected.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Alberto Viana
> 
> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 9:22 PM Alberto Viana  wrote:
> William,
> 
> I will try it tomorrow, but a reference about 
> "nsslapd-allow-hashed-passwords" in 
> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_directory_server/11/html/administration_guide/password_administrators
>  make senses to me.
> 
> 
> Thanks anyway.
> 
> Alberto Viana
> 
> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 8:58 PM William Brown  wrote:
> 
> 
> > On 6 May 2020, at 09:09, Alberto Viana  wrote:
> > 
> > William
> > 
> > I want to let this user bypass the policy and add a pre-hashed password,
> 
> If you want to add a pre-hashed password here, you'll need to change the 
> password-migrate flag in cn=config, load that password, then unset the 
> password migrate flag. 
> 
> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_directory_server/11/html/configuration_command_and_file_reference/core_server_configuration_reference#nsslapd-allow-hashed-passwords
> 
> 
> 
> > I also have a global policy and some OU policies level. On this OU 
> > OU=POP-PA,dc=my,dc=domain I have a local policy set.
> > 
> > Should I set pwadmin in local policy level? global policy level is not 
> > enough?
> 
> I think the ou policies over-ride the global policy, but regardless, password 
> hash loading is a seperate issues - as mentioned a pre-hashed PW bypasses 
> pwpolicy regardless of it's level, and is disallowed unless the above config 
> value is set. It's not recommended to allow pre-hashed password upload in 
> production long term, so as mentioned enable it, load the one password, then 
> disable it.
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Alberto Viana
> > 
> > On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 7:57 PM William Brown  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > On 6 May 2020, at 04:33, Alberto Viana  wrote:
> > > 
> > > additional info: invalid password syntax - passwords with storage scheme 
> > > are not allowed
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > This line here is saying that you have a userPassword: {SCHEME} in 
> > your ldif (I think). By default we don't allow this, but there is a migrate 
> > password hash option in cn=config.
> > 
> > Of course, loading a hash this way bypasses the password policy checks  
> > 
> > So you may want to check your ldif, and set the userPassword as cleartext 
> > for the modify, and the server-side will apply pwpolicy and perform proper 
> > hashing. 
> > 
> > Hope that helps,
> > 
> > —
> > Sincerely,
> > 
> > William Brown
> > 
> > Senior Software Engineer, 389 Directory Server
> > SUSE Labs
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Re: user crontab

2020-05-06 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/6/20 3:15 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
Can you point me to some guide for this?  Local delivery for viewing 
with mutt is ok.  I don't have to send it to my mail server


sendmail would take me running postfix locally.

Or would sendmail work for local store delivery?  Hmm.


You need some program that can handle local delivery.  It appears exim4 
is a fairly minimal one that should work by default.  Or if you want 
really minimal, I found https://git.lekensteyn.nl/femtomail/ .

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Re: dual Ethernet adapters?

2020-05-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 6 May 2020 15:45:39 -0700
ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

> Would I have to bond at both the Lixux side and
> the switching hub side?

I assume so, I've never used it.
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Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-07 06:19, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 5/6/20 3:10 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>> On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 2:50:27 PM MST Samuel Sieb wrote:
>>> On 5/6/20 2:46 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
>>>
 Anyone know if this is just broken now, and what the workaround is if so?
 I'm fine manually setting it on boot for now, but this is causing a lot
 of issues..
>>>
>>>
>>> Are you using NetworkManager or something else?
>>> What do you mean they aren't being read?  What is happening or not
>>> happening?
>>
>> I'm using NetworkManager. The interface is present, with the correct name, 
>> but
>> didn't get an IP address assigned.
>
> My ethernet port is called enp0s25, change the following command as 
> necessary.  Run "nmcli c show enp0s25" to see what NetworkManager knows about 
> the connection.  See if there's anything missing.

I would first run just "nmcli c" to see what the name of the connection is.  
The name is often not equal to the
device.

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Re: dual Ethernet adapters?

2020-05-06 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 2020-05-06 15:14, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 5/6/20 3:02 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Not to ask too silly a question, but what happens when
you have dual Ethernet adapters and you hook both of
them to your (switching) hub?

You go twice as fast?


Only if you have a smart switch that does bonding or trunking.  Then you 
can configure a bonded interface across both and it will load balance. 
Otherwise, you will get a different IP address on each one and one of 
them will be the default and the other won't be used.


Hi Sam,

Perfect explanation.  Thank you

-T
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Re: dual Ethernet adapters?

2020-05-06 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 2020-05-06 15:11, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Wed, 6 May 2020 15:02:08 -0700
ToddAndMargo via users wrote:


Not to ask too silly a question, but what happens when
you have dual Ethernet adapters and you hook both of
them to your (switching) hub?


Mostly you need something that supports "bonding" to
go faster. As near as I can tell, 99.9% of all traffic
always goes through one ethernet if they are both configured
on the same subnet.


Would I have to bond at both the Lixux side and
the switching hub side?
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Re: dual Ethernet adapters?

2020-05-06 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 2020-05-06 15:15, Digimer wrote:

On 2020-05-06 6:02 p.m., ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

Not to ask too silly a question, but what happens when
you have dual Ethernet adapters and you hook both of
them to your (switching) hub?

You go twice as fast?

Many thanks,


Yes and no...

There's seven bonding modes, six of which aggregate bandwidth in various
ways (one, mode=1, is focused on reliability). So with those, you'll
double your bandwidth.

Of course, this is bandwidth to the switch (point of order, "hub" is an
old style that shares bandwidth to all ports, modern switches are per
port). If you've got data coming/going from more that one source, you'll
potentially benefit, but between two machines, you'll need the other
machine to also have enough bandwidth as connections always go at the
slowest link.



Thank you.  Good explanation.

By the way, both are hubs.  "switch" is a short name for
a type of hub.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_switch

 A network switch (also called switching hub, bridging
 hub, officially MAC bridge)[1] is networking hardware
 that connects devices on a computer network by
 using packet switching to receive and forward data
 to the destination device.

I use the word "hub" because it is proper English:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hub
 1 : the central part of a circular object (such as a
wheel or propeller) spokes attached to the hub
of the wheel

 2a : a center of activity : focal point The island
is a major tourist hub.

  b : an airport or city through which an airline
  routes most of its traffic

  c : a central device that connects multiple computers
  on a single network (see network entry 1 sense 3b)

And since not everyone know the difference, I put "Switching"
in parenthesis.

"Level 3" would also be short for "level 3 switching hub"

-T






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Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 3:19:42 PM MST Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 5/6/20 3:10 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> 
> > On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 2:50:27 PM MST Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > 
> >> On 5/6/20 2:46 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Anyone know if this is just broken now, and what the workaround is if
> >>> so?
> >>> I'm fine manually setting it on boot for now, but this is causing a lot
> >>> of issues..
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Are you using NetworkManager or something else?
> >> What do you mean they aren't being read?  What is happening or not
> >> happening?
> > 
> > 
> > I'm using NetworkManager. The interface is present, with the correct name,
> > but didn't get an IP address assigned.
> 
> 
> My ethernet port is called enp0s25, change the following command as 
> necessary.  Run "nmcli c show enp0s25" to see what NetworkManager knows 
> about the connection.  See if there's anything missing.

Apparently, nothing.. "no such connection profile". That's pretty odd, this 
was configured using NetworkManager in the Anaconda GUI.

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Re: user crontab

2020-05-06 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 2020-05-06 15:15, Robert Moskowitz wrote:



On 5/6/20 6:08 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 2020-05-06 15:00, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

I know I can edit the user crontab with:

crontab -e

and display it with

crontab -l

But where is it?  I don't see anything like ~/.crontab




Hi Robert,

Your crontab files are in

# ls /var/spool/cron
root tom dick harry


The user's crontab will appear as the users name


Ah, thanks.


MAILTO=rgm

Only set a variable.  You have to use a program to
send your mail.  Good luck finding one that supports
OAuth2.

Check out curl and s-nail to send eMail.


Can you point me to some guide for this?  Local delivery for viewing 
with mutt is ok.  I don't have to send it to my mail server


sendmail would take me running postfix locally.

Or would sendmail work for local store delivery?  Hmm.


man curl

But good luck with that.

Here is an example I have kicking around:

$ cat mail.txt | curl -vvv smtps://smtp.zoho.com:465 --mail-from 
"x...@zoho.com" --mail-rcpt "y...@zoho.com" --ssl -u 
x...@zoho.com:xx -k --anyauth

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Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/6/20 3:25 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Wed, 06 May 2020 15:13:27 -0700
John M. Harris Jr wrote:


This solved it, thank you!


If that solved it, you may not actually be using NetworkManager.
I have no files at all in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts after
configuring my network with just NetworkManager (it must
store the info somewhere, but I have no idea where).


Check in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
I have no network-scripts package, but everything still goes into 
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts.

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Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 06 May 2020 15:13:27 -0700
John M. Harris Jr wrote:

> This solved it, thank you!

If that solved it, you may not actually be using NetworkManager.
I have no files at all in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts after
configuring my network with just NetworkManager (it must
store the info somewhere, but I have no idea where).
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Re: nothing provides module platform:f31

2020-05-06 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/6/20 3:12 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:

So, apparently GIMP is a module now, which I wasn't aware of before.. Upon
attempting to update to F32 on a workstation, I'm running into:

nothing provides module(platform:f31) needed by module gimp:
2.10:3120191106095052:f636be4b-0.x86_64

I can just --skip-broken on this one, but is there something to this that I'm
not aware of that will resolve the dependency issue, or is another instance
where Modularity has broken Fedora's repos?


You can either ignore those messages and it will automatically get 
resolved or you can run "dnf module reset \*" to fix it before.

(I'm assuming you're using "dnf system-upgrade".)
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Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/6/20 3:15 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:

On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 3:01:28 PM MST Tom Horsley wrote:

On Wed, 06 May 2020 14:46:35 -0700
John M. Harris Jr wrote:

Anyone know if this is just broken now, and what the workaround is if so?
I'm  fine manually setting it on boot for now, but this is causing a lot
of issues..


Probably don't have network-scripts installed. Ever since about fedora
29 I think they haven't shipped network-scripts by default, you have
to fetch them via:

dnf install network-scripts

(which can be tricky if you have no network :-).

I finally gave up and after a monster struggle got my networking
functioning with just NetworkManager when I installed fedora 32.


While this did solve it, I wonder why it was working in F31, but stopped in
F32, if that was the issue. There should probably be a warning upon upgrade,
or something like that, because using /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is not at
all uncommon..


You installed "network-scripts" and that made it work?  That package is 
deprecated and going away soon.  You should make sure it works without that.

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Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/6/20 3:10 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:

On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 2:50:27 PM MST Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 5/6/20 2:46 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:


Anyone know if this is just broken now, and what the workaround is if so?
I'm fine manually setting it on boot for now, but this is causing a lot
of issues..



Are you using NetworkManager or something else?
What do you mean they aren't being read?  What is happening or not
happening?


I'm using NetworkManager. The interface is present, with the correct name, but
didn't get an IP address assigned.


My ethernet port is called enp0s25, change the following command as 
necessary.  Run "nmcli c show enp0s25" to see what NetworkManager knows 
about the connection.  See if there's anything missing.

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Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 3:01:28 PM MST Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Wed, 06 May 2020 14:46:35 -0700
> John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> 
> 
> > Anyone know if this is just broken now, and what the workaround is if so?
> > I'm  fine manually setting it on boot for now, but this is causing a lot
> > of issues..
> > 
> 
> 
> Probably don't have network-scripts installed. Ever since about fedora
> 29 I think they haven't shipped network-scripts by default, you have
> to fetch them via:
> 
> dnf install network-scripts
> 
> (which can be tricky if you have no network :-).
> 
> I finally gave up and after a monster struggle got my networking
> functioning with just NetworkManager when I installed fedora 32.

While this did solve it, I wonder why it was working in F31, but stopped in 
F32, if that was the issue. There should probably be a warning upon upgrade, 
or something like that, because using /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is not at 
all uncommon..

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Re: dual Ethernet adapters?

2020-05-06 Thread Digimer
On 2020-05-06 6:02 p.m., ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Not to ask too silly a question, but what happens when
> you have dual Ethernet adapters and you hook both of
> them to your (switching) hub?
> 
> You go twice as fast?
> 
> Many thanks,

Yes and no...

There's seven bonding modes, six of which aggregate bandwidth in various
ways (one, mode=1, is focused on reliability). So with those, you'll
double your bandwidth.

Of course, this is bandwidth to the switch (point of order, "hub" is an
old style that shares bandwidth to all ports, modern switches are per
port). If you've got data coming/going from more that one source, you'll
potentially benefit, but between two machines, you'll need the other
machine to also have enough bandwidth as connections always go at the
slowest link.

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Re: user crontab

2020-05-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 5/6/20 6:08 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 2020-05-06 15:00, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

I know I can edit the user crontab with:

crontab -e

and display it with

crontab -l

But where is it?  I don't see anything like ~/.crontab




Hi Robert,

Your crontab files are in

# ls /var/spool/cron
root tom dick harry


The user's crontab will appear as the users name


Ah, thanks.


MAILTO=rgm

Only set a variable.  You have to use a program to
send your mail.  Good luck finding one that supports
OAuth2.

Check out curl and s-nail to send eMail.


Can you point me to some guide for this?  Local delivery for viewing 
with mutt is ok.  I don't have to send it to my mail server


sendmail would take me running postfix locally.

Or would sendmail work for local store delivery?  Hmm.

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Re: dual Ethernet adapters?

2020-05-06 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/6/20 3:02 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Not to ask too silly a question, but what happens when
you have dual Ethernet adapters and you hook both of
them to your (switching) hub?

You go twice as fast?


Only if you have a smart switch that does bonding or trunking.  Then you 
can configure a bonded interface across both and it will load balance. 
Otherwise, you will get a different IP address on each one and one of 
them will be the default and the other won't be used.

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Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 3:01:28 PM MST Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Wed, 06 May 2020 14:46:35 -0700
> John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> 
> 
> > Anyone know if this is just broken now, and what the workaround is if so?
> > I'm 
 fine manually setting it on boot for now, but this is causing a lot
> > of issues..
> > 
> 
> 
> Probably don't have network-scripts installed. Ever since about fedora
> 29 I think they haven't shipped network-scripts by default, you have
> to fetch them via:
> 
> dnf install network-scripts
> 
> (which can be tricky if you have no network :-).
> 
> I finally gave up and after a monster struggle got my networking
> functioning with just NetworkManager when I installed fedora 32.

This solved it, thank you!

-- 
John M. Harris, Jr.
Splentity

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nothing provides module platform:f31

2020-05-06 Thread John M. Harris Jr
So, apparently GIMP is a module now, which I wasn't aware of before.. Upon 
attempting to update to F32 on a workstation, I'm running into:

nothing provides module(platform:f31) needed by module gimp:
2.10:3120191106095052:f636be4b-0.x86_64

I can just --skip-broken on this one, but is there something to this that I'm 
not aware of that will resolve the dependency issue, or is another instance 
where Modularity has broken Fedora's repos?

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Splentity

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Re: dual Ethernet adapters?

2020-05-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 6 May 2020 15:02:08 -0700
ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

> Not to ask too silly a question, but what happens when
> you have dual Ethernet adapters and you hook both of
> them to your (switching) hub?

Mostly you need something that supports "bonding" to
go faster. As near as I can tell, 99.9% of all traffic
always goes through one ethernet if they are both configured
on the same subnet.
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Killing existing connections with firewall-cmd (F31)

2020-05-06 Thread Sam Varshavchik
My intertubes connectivity goes through a dual-NIC host that does NATing for  
my LAN.


tcpdump gives me the offending IP address every time something on my LAN  
start spewing crap and saturates my upstream bandwidth; and I have a built- 
in script for this:


firewall-cmd --add-rich-rule "rule family=ipv4 source address=$1 reject"
firewall-cmd --add-rich-rule "rule family=ipv4 destination address=$1 reject"

This usually does the trick, but it looks to me like this is only blocks new  
connections.


Something on someone's phone, started spewing to an IP address today and  
kept spewing after I added these rules.


Looking through the output of iptables -n -L, I see a rule that accepts an  
ESTABLISHED connection:


Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination
ACCEPT all  –  0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0ctstate  
RELATED,ESTABLISHED,DNAT


That's the first rule that hits INPUT. I found the rule with the blocked IP  
address in "Chain IN_FedoraServer_deny". I'm not 100% up to speed on  
iptables, but it does look to me like only new connections gets blocked.


Is there a way with firewall-cmd to /really/ block an IP address, new or  
established connections, or is manually adding an iptables rule my only  
option?




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Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 2:50:27 PM MST Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 5/6/20 2:46 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> 
> > Anyone know if this is just broken now, and what the workaround is if so?
> > I'm fine manually setting it on boot for now, but this is causing a lot
> > of issues..
> 
> 
> Are you using NetworkManager or something else?
> What do you mean they aren't being read?  What is happening or not 
> happening?

I'm using NetworkManager. The interface is present, with the correct name, but 
didn't get an IP address assigned.

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Splentity

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Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 5/6/20 5:46 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:

Anyone know if this is just broken now, and what the workaround is if so? I'm
fine manually setting it on boot for now, but this is causing a lot of
issues..



"out of the box F32 workstation with Xfce"

I am assuming these were created by NetworkManager:

# cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-enp3s0
TYPE=Ethernet
PROXY_METHOD=none
BROWSER_ONLY=no
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
DEFROUTE=yes
IPV4_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6INIT=yes
IPV6_AUTOCONF=yes
IPV6_DEFROUTE=yes
IPV6_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6_ADDR_GEN_MODE=stable-privacy
NAME=enp3s0
UUID=ab051ba5-5260-3f64-a8d2-a887ffe75e21
DEVICE=enp3s0
ONBOOT=yes
AUTOCONNECT_PRIORITY=-999

# cat /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-HTTNET
ESSID=HTTNET
MODE=Managed
KEY_MGMT=WPA-PSK
SECURITYMODE=open
MAC_ADDRESS_RANDOMIZATION=default
TYPE=Wireless
PROXY_METHOD=none
BROWSER_ONLY=no
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
DEFROUTE=yes
IPV4_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6INIT=yes
IPV6_AUTOCONF=yes
IPV6_DEFROUTE=yes
IPV6_FAILURE_FATAL=no
IPV6_ADDR_GEN_MODE=stable-privacy
NAME=HTTNET
UUID=e7cef733-fb8d-4646-b102-089358705a02
DEVICE=wlp1s0
ONBOOT=yes
USERS=rgm

And this one has a key-HTTNET

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Re: user crontab

2020-05-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 6 May 2020 18:00:45 -0400
Robert Moskowitz wrote:

> But where is it? 

/var/spool/cron/user-name

> Do I need something like postfix with a minimal installation to get the 
> output from my crontab?

You need some kind of mail software, postfix might be overkill
(but is certainly easier to configure than sendmail). Not sure
if there is any mail software shipped by default on the live
images any longer.
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Re: user crontab

2020-05-06 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 2020-05-06 15:00, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

I know I can edit the user crontab with:

crontab -e

and display it with

crontab -l

But where is it?  I don't see anything like ~/.crontab




Hi Robert,

Your crontab files are in

# ls /var/spool/cron
root tom dick harry


The user's crontab will appear as the users name


MAILTO=rgm

Only set a variable.  You have to use a program to
send your mail.  Good luck finding one that supports
OAuth2.

Check out curl and s-nail to send eMail.

-T


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Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 06 May 2020 14:46:35 -0700
John M. Harris Jr wrote:

> Anyone know if this is just broken now, and what the workaround is if so? I'm 
> fine manually setting it on boot for now, but this is causing a lot of 
> issues..
> 

Probably don't have network-scripts installed. Ever since about fedora
29 I think they haven't shipped network-scripts by default, you have
to fetch them via:

dnf install network-scripts

(which can be tricky if you have no network :-).

I finally gave up and after a monster struggle got my networking
functioning with just NetworkManager when I installed fedora 32.
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dual Ethernet adapters?

2020-05-06 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

Hi All,

Not to ask too silly a question, but what happens when
you have dual Ethernet adapters and you hook both of
them to your (switching) hub?

You go twice as fast?

Many thanks,
-T
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user crontab

2020-05-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz

I know I can edit the user crontab with:

crontab -e

and display it with

crontab -l

But where is it?  I don't see anything like ~/.crontab

Secondly, and more importantly, is getting a email from the user 
crontab.  I have in my crontab:


SHELL=/bin/bash
PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
MAILTO=rgm


And nothing gets mailed to /var/spool/mail/rgm

ls /var/spool/mail/ -ls
total 0
0 -rw-rw. 1 rgm mail 0 May  5 17:21 rgm
0 -rw-rw. 1 rpc mail 0 May  5 17:07 rpc


Do I need something like postfix with a minimal installation to get the 
output from my crontab?


thanks

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Re: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/6/20 2:46 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:

Anyone know if this is just broken now, and what the workaround is if so? I'm
fine manually setting it on boot for now, but this is causing a lot of
issues..


Are you using NetworkManager or something else?
What do you mean they aren't being read?  What is happening or not 
happening?

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/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* not read after upgrade to F32

2020-05-06 Thread John M. Harris Jr
Anyone know if this is just broken now, and what the workaround is if so? I'm 
fine manually setting it on boot for now, but this is causing a lot of 
issues..

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Re: re. Restoring a USB back-up using Back-ups (Duplicity)

2020-05-06 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/6/20 1:11 PM, Andrew Wood wrote:
Thanks for this reply ... I should have said that the USB drive I 
mentioned (/run/media/awood/7160-75C1 ) was previously a bootable USB 
and partitioned as such. This leads me to wonder if I can simply rename 
the volume (is that the correct term?) to the previous name and then use 
Duplicity? But what's the parameters for a restore on this USB with this 
name?


How did you create the live boot?  Did you write the iso directly to the 
drive or did you use one of the live media tools?

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Re: Restoring a USB back-up using Back-ups (Duplicity) on Fedora

2020-05-06 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/6/20 1:27 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:

The data of the ISO quite surely overwrote the filesystem metadata
of the original partition 1.

So you will most probably have to start with a new partition table and
a new filesystem.

There is half hope for getting your old partition table back.
If the old table was GPT, then there might still be the backup table at
the end of the USB stick. (I actually advise to overwrite this backup
table too, when copying an ISO to USB stick.)


Have you seen USB sticks that come with a GPT partition table?  I 
haven't.  But even if he restored the partition table, the filesystem 
still needs to be reformatted and set to the right volume id.

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Re: dnfdragora freezing, pausing, crashing

2020-05-06 Thread Richard England

On 2020-05-06 12:06, antonio montagnani wrote:

Richard England ha scritto il 06/05/20 alle 21:02:

Steven,
I've checked all the locations I know of and using the techniques I'm 
aware of but I don't seem to be able to locate 
dnfdragora-1.1.1-6.fc32.noarch.rpm   All I turn up for F32 is 
dnfdragora-2.0.0-2.fc32.noarch.rpm


When I checked FC31 it only showed dnfdragora-1.1.1-3.fc31.noarch.rpm

Do you have a location where I can find 
dnfdragora-1.1.1-6.fc32.noarch.rpm


Thanks for your time.

~~R

On 2020-05-04 04:26, Steven Usdansky via users wrote:
The current version of dnfdragora has been crashing for me for about 
a week. Not wanting to investigate further, I downgraded to 
dnfdragora-1.1.1-6.fc32.noarch.rpm which still works

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Thank you, Steven and Antonio.

Downgrading to dnfdragora-1.1.1-6.fc32.noarch.rpm and 
dnfdragora-updater-1.1.1-6.fc32.noarch.rpm corrected the problem.


I'll see about entering a bugzilla on this

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Re: Restoring a USB back-up using Back-ups (Duplicity) on Fedora

2020-05-06 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/6/20 12:52 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:

Andrew Wood wrote:

How do I restore the contents of the USB flash drive so that it has the
same contents as the /run/media/awood/7160-75C1 ??


Samuel Sieb wrote:

sudo mkfs.fat -i 716075C1 /dev/sdb1


One will normally want to erase the partition table brought by the ISO
and instead create the normal partition table of a freshly bought USB
stick.


That's a good point.  I was thinking that he had used one of the tools 
to create the live media, but that usually gives a mount point of 
"LIVE", so it likely was a straight write of the iso.

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Re: dnfdragora freezing, pausing, crashing

2020-05-06 Thread Richard England

On 2020-05-06 12:06, antonio montagnani wrote:

Richard England ha scritto il 06/05/20 alle 21:02:

Steven,
I've checked all the locations I know of and using the techniques I'm 
aware of but I don't seem to be able to locate 
dnfdragora-1.1.1-6.fc32.noarch.rpm   All I turn up for F32 is 
dnfdragora-2.0.0-2.fc32.noarch.rpm


When I checked FC31 it only showed dnfdragora-1.1.1-3.fc31.noarch.rpm

Do you have a location where I can find 
dnfdragora-1.1.1-6.fc32.noarch.rpm


Thanks for your time.

~~R

On 2020-05-04 04:26, Steven Usdansky via users wrote:
The current version of dnfdragora has been crashing for me for about 
a week. Not wanting to investigate further, I downgraded to 
dnfdragora-1.1.1-6.fc32.noarch.rpm which still works

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Re: Restoring a USB back-up using Back-ups (Duplicity) on Fedora

2020-05-06 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi,

Andrew Wood wrote:
> This leads me to wonder if I can simply rename the volume (is that
> the correct term?) to the previous name and then use Duplicity?

If the ISO was copied to the USB stick in a way that it can boot,
then the old partition table of the USB stick was overwritten at that
occasion.
The data of the ISO quite surely overwrote the filesystem metadata
of the original partition 1.

So you will most probably have to start with a new partition table and
a new filesystem.

There is half hope for getting your old partition table back.
If the old table was GPT, then there might still be the backup table at
the end of the USB stick. (I actually advise to overwrite this backup
table too, when copying an ISO to USB stick.)

You may try whether a GPT aware partition editor offers you to restore
the backup table as main table. The answer to the question which editor
to use for this purpose is better left to Fedora experts.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas
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re. Restoring a USB back-up using Back-ups (Duplicity)

2020-05-06 Thread Andrew Wood
Thanks for this reply ... I should have said that the USB drive I 
mentioned (/run/media/awood/7160-75C1 ) was previously a bootable USB 
and partitioned as such. This leads me to wonder if I can simply rename 
the volume (is that the correct term?) to the previous name and then use 
Duplicity? But what's the parameters for a restore on this USB with this 
name?

Thanks for your help and assistance.
Andrew
Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 12:15:32 -0700 From: Samuel Sieb  
Subject: Re: Restoring a USB back-up using Back-ups (Duplicity) on 
Fedora To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Message-ID: 
 Content-Type: 
text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed On 5/6/20 11:38 AM, Andrew Wood 
wrote:



I had a USB flash drive which I backed using Back-ups (Duplicity) on
Fedora 31. The USB volume was called /run/media/awood/7160-75C1

I then used the same USB flash drive to create a Fedora 32 Live Image on
it. After this, the USB volume was called
/run/media/awood/Fedora-WS-Live-32-1-6

How do I restore the contents of the USB flash drive so that it has the
same contents as the /run/media/awood/7160-75C1 ??


You need to reformat it with the original filesystem id.  Open a
terminal and use "fdisk -l" to make sure you have the right device.  I'm
going to assume the drive is /dev/sdb and only has one partition.  Make
sure it's unmounted by running:
umount /run/media/awood/Fedora-WS-Live-32-1-6
Don't click the eject button because that will also disconnect it from
USB.  Then run "sudo mkfs.fat -i 716075C1 /dev/sdb1".  Replug the device
and it should come up as before.

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Re: Restoring a USB back-up using Back-ups (Duplicity) on Fedora

2020-05-06 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi,

Andrew Wood wrote:
> > How do I restore the contents of the USB flash drive so that it has the
> > same contents as the /run/media/awood/7160-75C1 ??

Samuel Sieb wrote:
> sudo mkfs.fat -i 716075C1 /dev/sdb1

One will normally want to erase the partition table brought by the ISO
and instead create the normal partition table of a freshly bought USB
stick.

The MBR partition table of Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-31-1.9.iso
looks like

  DeviceBoot Start End Sectors  Size Id Type
  Fedora...iso1 *0 3768319 3768320  1.8G  0 Empty
  Fedora...iso2172   21887   21716 10.6M ef EFI (FAT
  Fedora...iso3  21888   67407   45520 22.2M  0 Empty

The partition types alone will probably cause confusion in various
interpreters of USB sticks.
Further 1.8 GB of size is probably only a small part of a modern
stick's capacity.

My youngest USB stick initially looked like

  Device Boot Start   End   Sectors   Size Id Type
  intenso_128gb1 *  128 24575 245759872 117.2G  c W95 FAT32 (LBA)

(The use of FAT32 for a 100+ GB storage device seems awkward, though.)

---

In general one should make a (compressed) device backup of an USB stick
before temporarily using it for a bootable ISO:

  dd if=/dev/sdd bs=1M | gzip >red_64gb_usb_stick.img.gz

This can later be restored by

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Re: Restoring a USB back-up using Back-ups (Duplicity) on Fedora

2020-05-06 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/6/20 11:38 AM, Andrew Wood wrote:
I had a USB flash drive which I backed using Back-ups (Duplicity) on 
Fedora 31. The USB volume was called /run/media/awood/7160-75C1


I then used the same USB flash drive to create a Fedora 32 Live Image on 
it. After this, the USB volume was called 
/run/media/awood/Fedora-WS-Live-32-1-6


How do I restore the contents of the USB flash drive so that it has the 
same contents as the /run/media/awood/7160-75C1 ??


You need to reformat it with the original filesystem id.  Open a 
terminal and use "fdisk -l" to make sure you have the right device.  I'm 
going to assume the drive is /dev/sdb and only has one partition.  Make 
sure it's unmounted by running:

umount /run/media/awood/Fedora-WS-Live-32-1-6
Don't click the eject button because that will also disconnect it from 
USB.  Then run "sudo mkfs.fat -i 716075C1 /dev/sdb1".  Replug the device 
and it should come up as before.

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Re: dnfdragora freezing, pausing, crashing

2020-05-06 Thread antonio montagnani

Richard England ha scritto il 06/05/20 alle 21:02:

Steven,
I've checked all the locations I know of and using the techniques I'm 
aware of but I don't seem to be able to locate 
dnfdragora-1.1.1-6.fc32.noarch.rpm   All I turn up for F32 is 
dnfdragora-2.0.0-2.fc32.noarch.rpm


When I checked FC31 it only showed dnfdragora-1.1.1-3.fc31.noarch.rpm

Do you have a location where I can find  dnfdragora-1.1.1-6.fc32.noarch.rpm

Thanks for your time.

~~R

On 2020-05-04 04:26, Steven Usdansky via users wrote:
The current version of dnfdragora has been crashing for me for about a 
week. Not wanting to investigate further, I downgraded to 
dnfdragora-1.1.1-6.fc32.noarch.rpm which still works

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Re: dnfdragora freezing, pausing, crashing

2020-05-06 Thread Richard England

Steven,
I've checked all the locations I know of and using the techniques I'm 
aware of but I don't seem to be able to locate   
dnfdragora-1.1.1-6.fc32.noarch.rpm   All I turn up for F32 is 
dnfdragora-2.0.0-2.fc32.noarch.rpm


When I checked FC31 it only showed dnfdragora-1.1.1-3.fc31.noarch.rpm

Do you have a location where I can find  dnfdragora-1.1.1-6.fc32.noarch.rpm

Thanks for your time.

~~R

On 2020-05-04 04:26, Steven Usdansky via users wrote:

The current version of dnfdragora has been crashing for me for about a week. 
Not wanting to investigate further, I downgraded to 
dnfdragora-1.1.1-6.fc32.noarch.rpm which still works
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Restoring a USB back-up using Back-ups (Duplicity) on Fedora

2020-05-06 Thread Andrew Wood

Hello,

I had a USB flash drive which I backed using Back-ups (Duplicity) on 
Fedora 31. The USB volume was called /run/media/awood/7160-75C1


I then used the same USB flash drive to create a Fedora 32 Live Image on 
it. After this, the USB volume was called 
/run/media/awood/Fedora-WS-Live-32-1-6


How do I restore the contents of the USB flash drive so that it has the 
same contents as the /run/media/awood/7160-75C1 ??


Note that I also have a back-up of my hard disk using Back-ups 
(Duplicity) and I don't to restore that - only the USB flash drive which 
has now changed it's name. The restore should also restore the whole 
contents of the USB drive and not a single file or directory. It's the 
data part of the USB which I want to restore - I'm not concerned about 
the partitions which allow it to boot. Hope that makes sense?


The Gnome front end (on Fedora 31) for Back-ups doesn't have the options 
to change the names of the volumes on restore - it has to have the same 
name on back-up as restore. I checked the online manual for Duplicity 
but there's very few examples and so it's not particularly helpful!


Thank-you,

Andrew, Oxford

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Re: today's f32 update hung on restorecon

2020-05-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 5/6/20 1:38 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 5/6/20 5:37 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
And I just started my update minutes before this post and am also 
hung in the


Running scriptlet: selinux-policy-targeted-3.14.5-38.fc32.noarch 5/34

Is it safe to reboot?  All sorts of dire warnings about crashing out 
of an update...


Give it some time.  Check top to see if the restorecon process is just 
spinning at 100% CPU or is stuck or is actually writing to the drive. 
If you don't want to wait longer, then kill the restorecon process, 
not dnf.  Hopefully dnf will continue after.


Do you have any active network mounts?


Fortunately not!  Last night when I was migrating data, I had the drive 
out of my F30 system connected and rsyncing lots of files.  Of course it 
may have been all these files, newly on the system it was going at.  
Like ALL IETF RFCs and Drafts!


Part of the reason why I left the old 2 core x120e behind for the 4 core 
x140e (plus 2x memory).


All sorts of noise can be coming out from under the hood, and I ain't no 
auto mechanic.


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Re: today's f32 update hung on restorecon

2020-05-06 Thread Joe Zeff

On 05/06/2020 11:32 AM, Łukasz Posadowski wrote:

You can always check 'htop', or 'ps aux | grep restorecon' to see how it
is going and what directories are relabaled.


To do it right, you should add | grep -v grep to that command.  Why you 
need that is left as an exercise for the reader.

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Re: today's f32 update hung on restorecon

2020-05-06 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/6/20 10:38 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 5/6/20 5:37 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
And I just started my update minutes before this post and am also hung 
in the


Running scriptlet: 
selinux-policy-targeted-3.14.5-38.fc32.noarch   5/34


Is it safe to reboot?  All sorts of dire warnings about crashing out 
of an update...


Give it some time.  Check top to see if the restorecon process is just 
spinning at 100% CPU or is stuck or is actually writing to the drive. If 
you don't want to wait longer, then kill the restorecon process, not 
dnf.  Hopefully dnf will continue after.


Do you have any active network mounts?


Sorry, somehow I didn't see that there were a bunch of replies already 
and the issue was already resolved.

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Re: today's f32 update hung on restorecon

2020-05-06 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/6/20 5:37 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
And I just started my update minutes before this post and am also hung 
in the


Running scriptlet: 
selinux-policy-targeted-3.14.5-38.fc32.noarch   5/34


Is it safe to reboot?  All sorts of dire warnings about crashing out of 
an update...


Give it some time.  Check top to see if the restorecon process is just 
spinning at 100% CPU or is stuck or is actually writing to the drive. 
If you don't want to wait longer, then kill the restorecon process, not 
dnf.  Hopefully dnf will continue after.


Do you have any active network mounts?
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Re: dnf upgrade vs dnf system-upgrade?

2020-05-06 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Wed, 6 May 2020 10:21:03 -0700 Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> On 5/6/20 7:42 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> > So, my question: which of the two approaches is "better"? The latter is 
> > swankier while coming up, but is the one with the Windows-type message 
> > (Upgrading system -- please do not turn off your computer, or something 
> > similar) but if there is no difference, I prefer the first.
>
> A simple upgrade is somewhat risky because you are replacing almost
> every component of the currently running system.  It is very possible
> that the terminal you are running the command in (unless you're on the
> console) or the desktop could crash.  Then you end up with a
> half-upgraded system that might not function.  The system-upgrade runs
> offline with nothing else running so it's safe that way.  Also,
> system-upgrade sometimes has extra handling for certain situations.  For
> example, the upgrade to F32 required resetting all the modules.
>
> I will do regular updates live (I have run into issues with that a
> couple of times though), but for new releases I always use system-upgrade.

Thanks very much for this detailed explanation! It is helpful.

Best wishes,
Ranjan
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Re: today's f32 update hung on restorecon

2020-05-06 Thread Łukasz Posadowski
Wed, 6 May 2020 08:30:43 -0400
Neal Becker :

> Running update today appeared to hang on restorecon, which was
> triggered by an update
> to selinux-policy-targeted IIRC (can't seem to find the log).
> 
> After running >10minutes (system has SSD and shouldn't take long) I
> did kill -KILL  to it.
> On reboot everything seems OK.

Selinux-policy-targeted rpm triggers restorecon, sometimes on a
*lot* of files and directorties (today were /proc and /dev). Restorecon
uses only a single core, so it takes a lot of time.

You can always check 'htop', or 'ps aux | grep restorecon' to see how it
is going and what directories are relabaled.

-- 
Łukasz Posadowski
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Re: Lost Mate-panel

2020-05-06 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/6/20 9:59 AM, Beartooth wrote:

On Tue, 05 May 2020 13:01:12 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:



All right, I now have it booted into F32 Live, with a Mate-
terminal open.


I've never use the Mate live boot.  Did it have an install option when
it started up?  If not, check the menus for an install option.


It has the usual icon (on the desktop, not a panel) labeled
"Install to hard drive." After going through all the menus I could find,
and not seeing one for re-install, I tried that. It didn't show a re-
install either, not automatically and not under the help button. So I
quit the install. Is there a CLI method? Maybe even one already online?


re-install means do the install again, wiping out the previous install.


I should mention that never on any new install have I managed to
make /home separate; every interpretation I've ever put on any directions
has led only to an impasse from which I had to start over. I don't know
what I've always gotten wrong, nor even whether it's always been one
thing.


If you don't have a separate /home directory, you will need to make a 
full backup of your current one because it will get wiped out in the 
install.  The install will require formatting the root partition.

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Re: dnf upgrade vs dnf system-upgrade?

2020-05-06 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/6/20 7:42 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

So, my question: which of the two approaches is "better"? The latter is 
swankier while coming up, but is the one with the Windows-type message (Upgrading system 
-- please do not turn off your computer, or something similar) but if there is no 
difference, I prefer the first.


A simple upgrade is somewhat risky because you are replacing almost 
every component of the currently running system.  It is very possible 
that the terminal you are running the command in (unless you're on the 
console) or the desktop could crash.  Then you end up with a 
half-upgraded system that might not function.  The system-upgrade runs 
offline with nothing else running so it's safe that way.  Also, 
system-upgrade sometimes has extra handling for certain situations.  For 
example, the upgrade to F32 required resetting all the modules.


I will do regular updates live (I have run into issues with that a 
couple of times though), but for new releases I always use system-upgrade.

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Re: Lost Mate-panel

2020-05-06 Thread Joe Zeff

On 05/06/2020 10:59 AM, Beartooth wrote:

I should mention that never on any new install have I managed to
make /home separate; every interpretation I've ever put on any directions
has led only to an impasse from which I had to start over. I don't know
what I've always gotten wrong, nor even whether it's always been one
thing.


And I've never had any trouble getting one.  Weird!  I always go into 
Custom Partition, remove any partitions I don't want and create the 
one's I need.  If I'm reinstalling, I make sure that I specify that 
/home does not get reformatted.

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Re: Lost Mate-panel

2020-05-06 Thread Beartooth
On Tue, 05 May 2020 13:01:12 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:


>>  All right, I now have it booted into F32 Live, with a Mate-
>> terminal open.
> 
> I've never use the Mate live boot.  Did it have an install option when
> it started up?  If not, check the menus for an install option.

It has the usual icon (on the desktop, not a panel) labeled 
"Install to hard drive." After going through all the menus I could find, 
and not seeing one for re-install, I tried that. It didn't show a re-
install either, not automatically and not under the help button. So I 
quit the install. Is there a CLI method? Maybe even one already online?

I should mention that never on any new install have I managed to 
make /home separate; every interpretation I've ever put on any directions 
has led only to an impasse from which I had to start over. I don't know 
what I've always gotten wrong, nor even whether it's always been one 
thing.
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[389-users] Re: pwadmin not working

2020-05-06 Thread Alberto Viana
William,

Set nsslapd-allow-hashed-passwords and pwadmin in global policy works as
expected.

Thanks again.

Alberto Viana

On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 9:22 PM Alberto Viana  wrote:

> William,
>
> I will try it tomorrow, but a reference about
> "nsslapd-allow-hashed-passwords" in
> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_directory_server/11/html/administration_guide/password_administrators
>  make
> senses to me.
>
>
> Thanks anyway.
>
> Alberto Viana
>
> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 8:58 PM William Brown  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> > On 6 May 2020, at 09:09, Alberto Viana  wrote:
>> >
>> > William
>> >
>> > I want to let this user bypass the policy and add a pre-hashed password,
>>
>> If you want to add a pre-hashed password here, you'll need to change the
>> password-migrate flag in cn=config, load that password, then unset the
>> password migrate flag.
>>
>>
>> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_directory_server/11/html/configuration_command_and_file_reference/core_server_configuration_reference#nsslapd-allow-hashed-passwords
>>
>>
>>
>> > I also have a global policy and some OU policies level. On this OU
>> OU=POP-PA,dc=my,dc=domain I have a local policy set.
>> >
>> > Should I set pwadmin in local policy level? global policy level is not
>> enough?
>>
>> I think the ou policies over-ride the global policy, but regardless,
>> password hash loading is a seperate issues - as mentioned a pre-hashed PW
>> bypasses pwpolicy regardless of it's level, and is disallowed unless the
>> above config value is set. It's not recommended to allow pre-hashed
>> password upload in production long term, so as mentioned enable it, load
>> the one password, then disable it.
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Alberto Viana
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 7:57 PM William Brown  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > > On 6 May 2020, at 04:33, Alberto Viana  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > additional info: invalid password syntax - passwords with storage
>> scheme are not allowed
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > This line here is saying that you have a userPassword: {SCHEME}
>> in your ldif (I think). By default we don't allow this, but there is a
>> migrate password hash option in cn=config.
>> >
>> > Of course, loading a hash this way bypasses the password policy checks
>> 
>> >
>> > So you may want to check your ldif, and set the userPassword as
>> cleartext for the modify, and the server-side will apply pwpolicy and
>> perform proper hashing.
>> >
>> > Hope that helps,
>> >
>> > —
>> > Sincerely,
>> >
>> > William Brown
>> >
>> > Senior Software Engineer, 389 Directory Server
>> > SUSE Labs
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Re: What happened to k3b-extras-freeworld?

2020-05-06 Thread Rex Dieter
Robert Moskowitz wrote:

> I jumped from F30 to F32 (I tend to skip releases).  In F30 I had
> k3b-extras-freeworld in rpmfusion free.
> 
> It is not there in F32.

It was EOL'd by a maintainer at rpmfusion:

https://pkgs.rpmfusion.org/cgit/free/k3b-extras-freeworld.git/commit/?id=ff42ade84311469e2aa2e09e23c9bfdca471e670

"Doesn't function"

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Re: today's f32 update hung on restorecon

2020-05-06 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 5/6/20 3:37 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-05-06 20:30, Neal Becker wrote:

Running update today appeared to hang on restorecon, which was triggered by an 
update
to selinux-policy-targeted IIRC (can't seem to find the log).

After running >10minutes (system has SSD and shouldn't take long) I did kill -KILL 
 to it.
On reboot everything seems OK.

Thoughts?


Yes, some selinux updates should come with "warnings" that it may take a long 
time to complete.
This can take quite a bit of time depending on circumstances.

I have a slower system and even with an SSD the update took about 30 minutes.


I have slower system with a bigger filesystem (ca.  16 TB) on HDDs 
attached to it, and the update took half a day.


Seems to as if SELinux now is relabeling filesystems it did not touch 
before ;)


Ralf

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dnf upgrade vs dnf system-upgrade?

2020-05-06 Thread Ranjan Maitra
Hi,

I recently (last night) upgraded the oldest of my machines.

Because I was doing this from memory, I decided to do trial-and-error (not a 
good idea, I know, but it was late and I was lazy).

So, I did:

sudo dnf upgrade --releasever 31

and everything went through fine, including installation on the commandline. 
There was no interruption because it came up immediately in F31 (was previously 
F30). This morning, I went back and looked at the notes at 
https://fedoramagazine.org/upgrading-fedora-31-to-fedora-32/ and realized that 
I should have used

sudo dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=32

and

sudo dnf system-upgrade reboot

so that is what I did to move the system to F32. This took a long time in 
coming up, during which the machine was unusable.

So, my question: which of the two approaches is "better"? The latter is 
swankier while coming up, but is the one with the Windows-type message 
(Upgrading system -- please do not turn off your computer, or something 
similar) but if there is no difference, I prefer the first.

Any thoughts?

Many thanks and best wishes,
Ranjan
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Re: today's f32 update hung on restorecon

2020-05-06 Thread Neal Becker
I'd like to try to manually run restorecon and watch it, but I don't know
exactly what the command line was.

restorecon -R / -e /run -e /proc ...?

Tried
rpm -q --scripts selinux-policy-targeted-3.14.5-38.fc32.noarch
But couldn't figure it out from that.


On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 9:37 AM Ed Greshko  wrote:

> On 2020-05-06 20:30, Neal Becker wrote:
> > Running update today appeared to hang on restorecon, which was triggered
> by an update
> > to selinux-policy-targeted IIRC (can't seem to find the log).
> >
> > After running >10minutes (system has SSD and shouldn't take long) I did
> kill -KILL  to it.
> > On reboot everything seems OK.
> >
> > Thoughts?
>
> Yes, some selinux updates should come with "warnings" that it may take a
> long time to complete.
> This can take quite a bit of time depending on circumstances.
>
> I have a slower system and even with an SSD the update took about 30
> minutes.
>
> Updates rarely, if ever, really hang.  Killing updates can result in
> incomplete operations which may
> not be  immediately apparent.
>
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Re: today's f32 update hung on restorecon

2020-05-06 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-06 20:30, Neal Becker wrote:
> Running update today appeared to hang on restorecon, which was triggered by 
> an update
> to selinux-policy-targeted IIRC (can't seem to find the log).
>
> After running >10minutes (system has SSD and shouldn't take long) I did kill 
> -KILL  to it.
> On reboot everything seems OK.
>
> Thoughts?

Yes, some selinux updates should come with "warnings" that it may take a long 
time to complete.
This can take quite a bit of time depending on circumstances.

I have a slower system and even with an SSD the update took about 30 minutes.

Updates rarely, if ever, really hang.  Killing updates can result in incomplete 
operations which may
not be  immediately apparent.

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Re: today's f32 update hung on restorecon

2020-05-06 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 5/6/20 9:27 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:
I didn't time it but left it alone to make breakfast and came back and 
it's done.


Same here.


I just was waiting for some input from this list and was doing the IETF 
virtual meeting planning survey.  We don't know yet if we will have the 
July meeting in Madrid; it does look unlikely...


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Re: today's f32 update hung on restorecon

2020-05-06 Thread Richard Shaw
I didn't time it but left it alone to make breakfast and came back and it's
done.

Thanks,
Richard

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Re: Is there a F32 workstation Netinstall image

2020-05-06 Thread ja
On Wed, 2020-05-06 at 06:51 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> 
> On 5/6/20 5:32 AM, ja wrote:
> > On Wed, 2020-05-06 at 10:06 +0100, ja wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2020-05-05 at 16:51 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> > > > On 5/5/20 4:21 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > > > > On 5/5/20 1:11 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> > > > > > I looked and looked and only found a F32 server Netinstall image.
> > > > > Use this:
> > > > > https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/32/Everything/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Everything-netinst-x86_64-32-1.6.iso
> > > > > 
> > > > > You can choose the workstation option from the install options.
> > > > thank you.  that is what I need.
> > > > 
> > > > Got through the basics, like partitioning like I want
> > > > 
> > > > and now to software selection and there is Xfce Desktop!
> > > > 
> > > > Hopefully on my way.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > I used to use netinstall but now download the
> > > xfce live image
> > > 1.5G Apr 28 15:40 Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-32-1.6.iso
> > > 
> > > dd to a fast USB stick
> > > Boot and select "Install to Disk"
> > > On a clean SSD the time to install after partitioning is about 5 minutes.
> > > Ok - you then have to add any extras.
> > > 
> > > John
> > > 
> > > 
> > I was wrong
> > Just installed on another machine - 3 minutes!
> 
> And then how long for dnf update?

Not long from my local repo

> And another reboot for the new kernel?
less than a minute?

> 
> Most of my time is in getting the partitions how I want them and various 
> other steps before selecting the apps I want.
Yep

> 
> The actual download and install was maybe 10 min.
and the second, third, ... machine?

> 
> And CDs burn faster than DVDs  :)
> 
400MB/s read/write on the USB stick

ja@harting F32 3$ time (sync; cp /tmp/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-32-1.6.iso 
/media/GTX3; sync)

real0m4.445s
user0m0.001s
sys 0m0.646s
ja@harting F32 5$ ltr -h /tmp/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-32-1.6.iso 
-rw-rw-r--. 1 ja ja 1.5G May  6 14:14 /tmp/Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-32-1.6.iso
> 
> It is called "Total Cost of Install"  ;)
> 

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