Re: Tip: how to make your own resolv.conf
On 12/18/22 22:37, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 12/18/22 18:00, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/18/22 17:57, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 12/18/22 17:10, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/18/22 15:34, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Chuckle. All is took was giving the developers a "doggy chew toy" (fake resolv.conf) to distract them from messing up my networking and all suddenly worked. Clearly you missed the documentation that that's how to do it. The must think everyone only has one network card. Fedora Server folks must be crying blood. No, it's specifically designed for multiple interfaces. e.g. at work I have split-DNS so requests for a particular domain go over the VPN that provides the connection to that network. They did a really, really bad job of it. Well, you're welcome to your opinion. But it's clearly working for most people. I am also welcome to my experience too. Do those other people have FIVE network interfaces (two physical) and an option for another sixth virtual interface? Do you really want to do this? :-) I don't know about "those" people, but one server of mine has 12 interfaces including physical, vlans, vpns, and VMs and I have no problems with it using only NetworkManager. I did override the resolv.conf on that one with no problems because of some issue with resolving at boot, probably related to the DNS server being in a VM that wasn't up yet. Another server has 10 interfaces, but it still has the default systemd-resolved config and is working fine and it has a similar freeipa VM for DNS. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Tip: how to make your own resolv.conf
On 12/18/22 18:00, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/18/22 17:57, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 12/18/22 17:10, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/18/22 15:34, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Chuckle. All is took was giving the developers a "doggy chew toy" (fake resolv.conf) to distract them from messing up my networking and all suddenly worked. Clearly you missed the documentation that that's how to do it. The must think everyone only has one network card. Fedora Server folks must be crying blood. No, it's specifically designed for multiple interfaces. e.g. at work I have split-DNS so requests for a particular domain go over the VPN that provides the connection to that network. They did a really, really bad job of it. Well, you're welcome to your opinion. But it's clearly working for most people. I am also welcome to my experience too. Do those other people have FIVE network interfaces (two physical) and an option for another sixth virtual interface? You saw how it fell apart when it put different DNS servers on different interfaces and that did not match resolv.conf? And how I kept over riding my manual configurations. This hurt me more than a Windows upgrade. I use Linux to avoid that kind of nonsense. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: dvdformat a loopback device
On 12/18/2022 9:38 PM, Tim via users wrote: Tim: VTS_01_0.VOB an intro or video menu for playing this video clip VTS_01.1.VOB part 1 of the main feature VTS_01.2.VOB part 2 of the main feature VTS_01.3.VOB part 3 of the main feature, etc. Go Canes: I have seen many DVDs where Title Set 1 was *not* the main feature; I don't think Title Set 1 = main feature is a safe assumption. If the DVD is a movie, you can look for the largest Title Set. But generally, you have to look at each Title Set to see what they are and determine which Title Set corresponds to which "title" on the DVD. I haven't seen any where it wasn't, but fair enough. Check you have the right ones. VTS_01 is supposed to be the *main& title. Some of the early DVD players even had a button to go straight to the main title, and that's how they did it. I had a home DVD recorder which worked very oddly. For every new recording, it just tacked onto the end of the previous one, it didn't start a new title set (like it ought to). I am dealing with one right now that is always copying VTS_03_X.VOBs as the main feature. That is what dvdbackup chooses every time when only copying the main feature, not the entire DVD. I too, have seen features when VTS_1_ was not particularly the feature. IDK about the old days and things have changed. B ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: dvdformat a loopback device
On Sun, 2022-12-18 at 21:50 -0500, Go Canes wrote: > I've played around with converting mpg to mp4, but generally wasn't > happy with the quality/size tradeoff and just kept the mpg version. I haven't, but that's what I'd expect. DVD video is already *heavily* compressed. I consider it terrible as a source medium for doing anything else to it. -- NB: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the list. The following system info data is generated fresh for each post: uname -rsvp Linux 6.0.10-200.fc36.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Nov 26 16:53:11 UTC 2022 x86_64 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: dvdformat a loopback device
On 12/18/2022 9:59 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Sun, 2022-12-18 at 21:16 -0500, Bill Cunningham wrote: But I do want a dvd converted into a mp4. Or an ISO into a mp4. It seems a hard time doing it. If you did the whole disc/iso, you'd get the studio promos, the copyright warnings, the adverts, the main feature, the shorts, all compiled into one huge video file. It'd be like playing video tape, with no way to jump to particular sections, you'd have to spool through. There are some file formats which support index markers, but you also need a player that knows to look for them (I don't which, if any, do). If you want just the main feature, you pretty much have to hand select the right VOB files to use. Or, use a tool which lets you select which title to use, and you'd have to figure out which title it was. VLC has a convert/save thing in the menu which brings up various options for batch conversion (I don't know if it'll take four input files and produce one output file). There's a whole disc option. You may be constrained by (a) needing pre-decrypted files, and (b) installing extra codecs. ... I know anytime I have created an mp4 file I only got a title screen and the feature. I didn't have to make any adjustments. Now the ISO is different, this is my experience. But I want the ISO when there is special features on the dvd like director's cuts, interviews with cast and such. All mp4 I have made have been 700 MB or so. Far better for a film that has no added features other than the main feature. On linux's modern tools. I have always had to use loopback with dvdbackup. It seems to want a device not directory to copy from. I can attach a ISO or just copy from the dvd. For example, losetup /dev/loop0 FILE.iso dvdbackup -F( or M)vpi /dev/loop0 -o OUTPUT I have no idea how so far, to use dvdauthor. Unless there a switch IDK about, dvdbackup doesn't read a file or directory, only device files. What does it mean to "encode" a dvd? I am not familiar with that. Is that what dvdauthor does. I will try to find mplayer and mencode, They it seems to me too, older. B ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: dvdformat a loopback device
On Sun, 2022-12-18 at 21:16 -0500, Bill Cunningham wrote: > But I do want a dvd converted into a mp4. Or an ISO into a mp4. It > seems a hard time doing it. If you did the whole disc/iso, you'd get the studio promos, the copyright warnings, the adverts, the main feature, the shorts, all compiled into one huge video file. It'd be like playing video tape, with no way to jump to particular sections, you'd have to spool through. There are some file formats which support index markers, but you also need a player that knows to look for them (I don't which, if any, do). If you want just the main feature, you pretty much have to hand select the right VOB files to use. Or, use a tool which lets you select which title to use, and you'd have to figure out which title it was. VLC has a convert/save thing in the menu which brings up various options for batch conversion (I don't know if it'll take four input files and produce one output file). There's a whole disc option. You may be constrained by (a) needing pre-decrypted files, and (b) installing extra codecs. I used to use mplayer (command line) to play a particular title set and stream dump it to one output file. But I was doing things like copying my own DVD recorded video to a single file to put on a file server. That was *something* like: mplayer dvd://1 -dumpstream -dumpfile dumped.mpg That read the DVD drive, the first title on the disc, told it to dump the stream to a file, and told it what file to dump it to. If you needed to pick a particular DVD drive: e.g. mplayer dvd://1 -dvd-device /dev/dvd2 -dumpstream -dumpfile dumped.mpg If you wanted to work from a directory of VOB files: e.g. mplayer dvd://1 -dvd-device /path/to/directory/ -dumpstream - dumpfile dumped.mpg I guess you could point to an ISO file, instead. The VOB files are mpegs that can often be directly played as they are. Some players might choke on a .vob named file, but be perfectly happy with simply renaming the file. mencoder (mplayer encoder) can be re-encode files. But look at the man file for actual instructions. -- NB: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the list. The following system info data is generated fresh for each post: uname -rsvp Linux 6.0.10-200.fc36.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Nov 26 16:53:11 UTC 2022 x86_64 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: dvdformat a loopback device
On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 9:18 PM Bill Cunningham wrote:
> How do you get it to convert a directory of VOBs and such into a mp4?
For all I know there may be a tool somewhere that will do an entire
disk, but I've always done it one title set at a time using steps as
indicated in prior posts. Example:
n=01
cat VIDEO_TS/VTS_${n}_*.VOB > title_${n}.mpg
# repeat with n=02, 03, etc. until you have all the title sets you want
# sometimes you need to omit VTS_*_0.VOB as it will be an animated
menu or some other bit you don't really want
I've played around with converting mpg to mp4, but generally wasn't
happy with the quality/size tradeoff and just kept the mpg version.
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Re: dvdformat a loopback device
Tim: >> VTS_01_0.VOB an intro or video menu for playing this video clip >> VTS_01.1.VOB part 1 of the main feature >> VTS_01.2.VOB part 2 of the main feature >> VTS_01.3.VOB part 3 of the main feature, etc. Go Canes: > I have seen many DVDs where Title Set 1 was *not* the main feature; I > don't think Title Set 1 = main feature is a safe assumption. If the > DVD is a movie, you can look for the largest Title Set. But > generally, you have to look at each Title Set to see what they are and > determine which Title Set corresponds to which "title" on the DVD. I haven't seen any where it wasn't, but fair enough. Check you have the right ones. VTS_01 is supposed to be the *main& title. Some of the early DVD players even had a button to go straight to the main title, and that's how they did it. I had a home DVD recorder which worked very oddly. For every new recording, it just tacked onto the end of the previous one, it didn't start a new title set (like it ought to). -- NB: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the list. The following system info data is generated fresh for each post: uname -rsvp Linux 6.0.10-200.fc36.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Nov 26 16:53:11 UTC 2022 x86_64 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: dvdformat a loopback device
On 12/18/2022 9:09 PM, Go Canes wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 8:44 PM Bill Cunningham wrote: The thing is I can't get vlc to convert a DVD a decrypted mirror image of that dvd nor an ISO created from those decrypted files. IDK what it is with vlc. I use it all the time to view. But the convert options with vlc. I get a short feature that plays a song of the movie's release company, then all ends. It's about 1-2 minutes long. That sounds like it is converting the title set that has the studio "splash" video. I don't use vlc to convert, so I can really provide much help, but you might look to see if there is an option to select the title set. [ If you were to convert all the VTS_nn_*.VOB files to their corresponding title_nn.VOB file, you would likely find that there are several short videos that you don't care about. ] Following-on to my earlier post, another way you can think of the VTS*.VOB file is to "translate" VTS_nn_p.VOB" into "Video Title Set nn, part p - video object". How do you get it to convert a directory of VOBs and such into a mp4? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: dvdformat a loopback device
On 12/18/2022 8:58 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Sun, 2022-12-18 at 19:18 -0500, Bill Cunningham wrote: Too answer many people's questions here, as to what I want to accomplish; is there some way to make these huge 7 GB ISOs smaller? Are you trying to squish a double-sided DVD onto a single-sided DVD and play it in a DVD player? Are you trying to do something like turn a movie from a DVD into a MP4 file that you're not going to play from a DVD disc? (Files on your hard drive, on a USB flash drive, etc.) Yeah. The horsing around might be fun. But I do want a dvd converted into a mp4. Or an ISO into a mp4. It seems a hard time doing it. Handbrake seems to be the easiest. vlc does indeed need tinkering constantly, it quickly becomes not worth the effort. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: dvdformat a loopback device
On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 9:08 PM Tim via users wrote: > VTS_01_0.VOB an intro or video menu for playing this video clip > VTS_01.1.VOB part 1 of the main feature > VTS_01.2.VOB part 2 of the main feature > VTS_01.3.VOB part 3 of the main feature, etc. I have seen many DVDs where Title Set 1 was *not* the main feature; I don't think Title Set 1 = main feature is a safe assumption. If the DVD is a movie, you can look for the largest Title Set. But generally, you have to look at each Title Set to see what they are and determine which Title Set corresponds to which "title" on the DVD. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: dvdformat a loopback device
On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 8:44 PM Bill Cunningham wrote: > The thing is I can't get vlc to convert a DVD a decrypted mirror image > of that dvd nor an ISO created from those decrypted files. IDK what it > is with vlc. I use it all the time to view. But the convert options with > vlc. I get a short feature that plays a song of the movie's release > company, then all ends. It's about 1-2 minutes long. That sounds like it is converting the title set that has the studio "splash" video. I don't use vlc to convert, so I can really provide much help, but you might look to see if there is an option to select the title set. [ If you were to convert all the VTS_nn_*.VOB files to their corresponding title_nn.VOB file, you would likely find that there are several short videos that you don't care about. ] Following-on to my earlier post, another way you can think of the VTS*.VOB file is to "translate" VTS_nn_p.VOB" into "Video Title Set nn, part p - video object". ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: dvdformat a loopback device
On Sun, 2022-12-18 at 20:42 -0500, Bill Cunningham wrote: > The thing is I can't get vlc to convert a DVD a decrypted mirror image > of that dvd nor an ISO created from those decrypted files. IDK what it > is with vlc. I use it all the time to view. But the convert options with > vlc. I get a short feature that plays a song of the movie's release > company, then all ends. It's about 1-2 minutes long. Harking back to my prior email... these are some of the video files on a DVD-Video disc (ignoring the other files): VIDEO_TS.VOB an intro or video menu for the whole disc VTS_01_0.VOB an intro or video menu for playing this video clip VTS_01.1.VOB part 1 of the main feature VTS_01.2.VOB part 2 of the main feature VTS_01.3.VOB part 3 of the main feature, etc. VTS_02_0.VOB an intro or video menu for playing this clip VTS_02_1.VOB part 1 of the second video clip VTS_02_2.VOB part 2 of the second video clip VTS_02_3.VOB part 3 of the second video clip, etc. So, just add the VTS_01*.VOB files into VLC, and work on them by themselves. Again, it's rare that I horse around with using VLC to convert things, each time I have to experiment with it, so I can't just offer a recipe to follow. -- NB: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the list. The following system info data is generated fresh for each post: uname -rsvp Linux 6.0.10-200.fc36.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Nov 26 16:53:11 UTC 2022 x86_64 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Tip: how to make your own resolv.conf
On 12/18/22 17:57, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 12/18/22 17:10, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/18/22 15:34, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Chuckle. All is took was giving the developers a "doggy chew toy" (fake resolv.conf) to distract them from messing up my networking and all suddenly worked. Clearly you missed the documentation that that's how to do it. The must think everyone only has one network card. Fedora Server folks must be crying blood. No, it's specifically designed for multiple interfaces. e.g. at work I have split-DNS so requests for a particular domain go over the VPN that provides the connection to that network. They did a really, really bad job of it. Well, you're welcome to your opinion. But it's clearly working for most people. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: dvdformat a loopback device
On Sun, 2022-12-18 at 19:18 -0500, Bill Cunningham wrote: > Too answer many people's questions here, as to what I want to > accomplish; is there some way to make these huge 7 GB ISOs smaller? Are you trying to squish a double-sided DVD onto a single-sided DVD and play it in a DVD player? Are you trying to do something like turn a movie from a DVD into a MP4 file that you're not going to play from a DVD disc? (Files on your hard drive, on a USB flash drive, etc.) > Converting to an mp4 would be the simple answer, but not a simple task > as I am finding. Handbrake for a GUI tool, ffmpeg for a command line, those are two that spring to mind. Not that I'm familiar with either of them, it's such a rarity that I'd have to figure it out each time. In the dim and distant past, I'd used Nero (disc burning software) to create a DVD disc from files meant to go on them. Just start a DVD project, drop in your source files, and it'd do all the hard work for you. In recent times, I'd shoot video, import the clips into FCP (Final Cut Pro) on a Mac, edit things together with FCP (that's it's actual purpose, video editing), and export a file ready to burn to a DVD. FCP did all the hard work for me. > There is some manual way I came across having something > to do with cat'ing a VOB and that somehow shrinks it. Cat will just join files together, the program name comes from concatenate. Sure, we often just use it to read a text file, but it's really just dumping the text file to the screen (file[s] in, something out in one big chunk). cat file1 file2 file3 > joinedfile or cat files* > joinedfile You'd have done some double process: Join all the source files together, re-encode and compress them. But even that's probably not necessary, the encoder could probably just be given a list of files to use as an input. Similar to the cat example, above. > I also would like to understand this ISO and dvd format much more, > as you seem to. We've explained the files on a DVD disc, what each one is. There's plenty of articles describing the same thing. An ISO file is just a dump of the disc contents. If you took a DVD disc and used dd to dump everything on it to a file, that's an ISO file. It's an image of the contents of the disc. Virtually the same thing as stamping vinyl records. dd if=/dev/dvdrom of=image.iso If you were to analyse the ISO file, you'd get the headers at the start that define the disc, then the file system that was on the disc. It's the same as dumping an image of a hard drive to a file. But what makes an ISO file different is that it's the structure of an optical disc's filesystem (CD or DVD) rather than some other medium. That structure is ISO 9660 (the 9660 specification from the International Organization for Standardization). If you dumped the structure of a hard drive, it might be the partition headers and filing system of ext3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_disc_image https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_9660 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Disk_Format DVDs were supposed to be UDF, which is essentially more features added to the old CDROM way of doing things. Mostly unneeded (considering all the do is play video), so most DVDs aren't really UDF. You'll notice that DVDs are all upper case filenames, short length filenames, like FAT. If they'd always used UDF they wouldn't have to constrained themselves to those limitations. But a DVD player doesn't need human- friendly filenames. And commercially pressed discs didn't need the other features UDF could offer, either (multi-session, being able to add more things to a disc, etc). It's a bit like ASCII still living on in 7-bit plaintext emails. Most of what we type can be covered by it, so the email client uses the lowest common denominator, rather than always using UTF-8, only switching over to the higher ability UTF-8 when you type something that needs it. -- NB: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the list. The following system info data is generated fresh for each post: uname -rsvp Linux 6.0.10-200.fc36.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Nov 26 16:53:11 UTC 2022 x86_64 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Tip: how to make your own resolv.conf
On 12/18/22 17:10, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/18/22 15:34, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Chuckle. All is took was giving the developers a "doggy chew toy" (fake resolv.conf) to distract them from messing up my networking and all suddenly worked. Clearly you missed the documentation that that's how to do it. The must think everyone only has one network card. Fedora Server folks must be crying blood. No, it's specifically designed for multiple interfaces. e.g. at work I have split-DNS so requests for a particular domain go over the VPN that provides the connection to that network. They did a really, really bad job of it. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: dvdformat a loopback device
On 12/18/2022 7:52 PM, Go Canes wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 7:18 PM Bill Cunningham wrote: Too answer many people's questions here, as to what I want to accomplish; is there some way to make these huge 7 GB ISOs smaller? Converting to an mp4 would be the simple answer, but not a simple task as I am finding. Assuming you have a DVD that is not encrypted. - mount the DVD - in the VIDEO_TS folder there will be several files names VTS_xx_y.VOB, where "xx" and "y" are numbers - cat all of the VTS_xx_*.VOB files together with something like "cat VTS_01_*.VOB > title_01.mpg". cat does not care if the files are text or binary - it just concatenates them together. - use the video player of your choice to play the *.mpg files and determine which you wish to keep (I like many others prefer vlc). The thing is I can't get vlc to convert a DVD a decrypted mirror image of that dvd nor an ISO created from those decrypted files. IDK what it is with vlc. I use it all the time to view. But the convert options with vlc. I get a short feature that plays a song of the movie's release company, then all ends. It's about 1-2 minutes long. B ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Tip: how to make your own resolv.conf
On 12/18/22 15:34, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Chuckle. All is took was giving the developers a "doggy chew toy" (fake resolv.conf) to distract them from messing up my networking and all suddenly worked. Clearly you missed the documentation that that's how to do it. The must think everyone only has one network card. Fedora Server folks must be crying blood. No, it's specifically designed for multiple interfaces. e.g. at work I have split-DNS so requests for a particular domain go over the VPN that provides the connection to that network. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: dvdformat a loopback device
On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 7:18 PM Bill Cunningham wrote: > Too answer many people's questions here, as to what I want to > accomplish; is there some way to make these huge 7 GB ISOs smaller? > Converting to an mp4 would be the simple answer, but not a simple task > as I am finding. Assuming you have a DVD that is not encrypted. - mount the DVD - in the VIDEO_TS folder there will be several files names VTS_xx_y.VOB, where "xx" and "y" are numbers - cat all of the VTS_xx_*.VOB files together with something like "cat VTS_01_*.VOB > title_01.mpg". cat does not care if the files are text or binary - it just concatenates them together. - use the video player of your choice to play the *.mpg files and determine which you wish to keep (I like many others prefer vlc). - you can also use dvdbackup to extract the title set(s) if you don't want to deal with the file structure yourself - if you wish to convert the *.mpg file to mp4, you can use any of several tools. ffmpeg is one that many people favor. The command would be something like "ffmpeg -i title_01.mpg title_01.mp4" - note that you might need to add other options to get a higher compression rate (with corresponding loss of quality) to significantly reduce the file size. google "ffmpeg convert DVD to mp4" and you should find several "cheat sheets". - alternatively you can use one of the OSS linear video editors to do the conversion; i.e. if you use KDE you can install kdenlive, import the *.mpg file, and have it do the conversion. - note that pretty much all of the tools that can do the conversion will have a certain amount of "learning curve". Re: DVD structure - there is an AUDIO_TS directory that has to be present for the structure to be compliant, but unless the DVD provides DVD-Audio (basically a super-CD), it will be empty. All of the video (and associated audio tracks) will be in the VIDEO_TS directory. The files in the VIDEO_TS directory are broken into "title sets" - each file is named *_xx_y.*, where "xx" is the title set number. Each title set will have *.IFO, *.VOB, and *.BUP files. The IFO files contain information such as chapter times, menu items, etc. *.BUP files are backup files - I think they protect against disc damage to the sectors in the corresponding *.IFO files. The VOBs are the actual "video objects" - i.e. the mpg encoded video. Each VOB is split into multiple files such that no file is larger than 2GB. That is my non-expert understanding of DVD structure. I'm sure if I got anything horribly wrong someone else will correct me. You can probably also find this info via googling. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: dvdformat a loopback device
On 12/18/2022 7:05 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Mon, 2022-12-19 at 10:29 +1030, Tim wrote: To create a playable DVD, the files have to be put into the master image (the ISO file, in your example), in order. DVD players are very simple, and expect the first file at the start of the disc, and the rest in sequence. They can do a bit of hunting around to play different files, but each file is contiguous in itself. There's also a bootblock kind of structure to the disc, with headers identifying the type of disc. These are just a few reasons why you use video-DVD creation tools to create DVDs, rather than try to do it all by hand. Supplemental: The creation tools just directly make an ISO file, they don't have to loop mount anything. You only need to horse around with loop mounting if *you* want to see the finished ISO file as if it were a disc that you'd put into a drive. There are various software players that will just play the ISO file directly as if you'd loaded a disc, too. What tools would they be? That sounds interesting. B ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: dvdformat a loopback device
On 12/18/2022 6:59 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Sun, 2022-12-18 at 17:44 -0500, Bill Cunningham wrote: OK so how exactly do I create an "empty" ISO file? I will try to explain by example. As above say I have an "empty" vfat format. mount /dev/loop /mnt which is attached to a FILE. copy files manually into the /mnt directory. Be they VOBs IFOs or such. wold I have to turn to mkfs.udf for this? IDK if that is a ISO. To create a playable DVD, the files have to be put into the master image (the ISO file, in your example), in order. DVD players are very simple, and expect the first file at the start of the disc, and the rest in sequence. They can do a bit of hunting around to play different files, but each file is contiguous in itself. There's also a bootblock kind of structure to the disc, with headers identifying the type of disc. These are just a few reasons why you use video-DVD creation tools to create DVDs, rather than try to do it all by hand. Too answer many people's questions here, as to what I want to accomplish; is there some way to make these huge 7 GB ISOs smaller? Converting to an mp4 would be the simple answer, but not a simple task as I am finding. There is some manual way I came across having something to do with cat'ing a VOB and that somehow shrinks it. This is manual and I can't remember the steps, there would have to be much more to it than that as using cat is usually for text files. I am even having trouble with handbrake now. I also would like to understand this ISO and dvd format much more, as you seem to. B ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: dvdformat a loopback device
On Mon, 2022-12-19 at 10:29 +1030, Tim wrote: > To create a playable DVD, the files have to be put into the master > image (the ISO file, in your example), in order. DVD players are very > simple, and expect the first file at the start of the disc, and the > rest in sequence. They can do a bit of hunting around to play > different files, but each file is contiguous in itself. There's also a > bootblock kind of structure to the disc, with headers identifying the > type of disc. > > These are just a few reasons why you use video-DVD creation tools to > create DVDs, rather than try to do it all by hand. Supplemental: The creation tools just directly make an ISO file, they don't have to loop mount anything. You only need to horse around with loop mounting if *you* want to see the finished ISO file as if it were a disc that you'd put into a drive. There are various software players that will just play the ISO file directly as if you'd loaded a disc, too. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.80.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 8 15:48:59 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: dvdformat a loopback device
On Sun, 2022-12-18 at 17:44 -0500, Bill Cunningham wrote: > OK so how exactly do I create an "empty" ISO file? I will try to explain > by example. > > As above say I have an "empty" vfat format. > > mount /dev/loop /mnt which is attached to a FILE. > > copy files manually into the /mnt directory. Be they VOBs IFOs or such. > > wold I have to turn to mkfs.udf for this? IDK if that is a ISO. To create a playable DVD, the files have to be put into the master image (the ISO file, in your example), in order. DVD players are very simple, and expect the first file at the start of the disc, and the rest in sequence. They can do a bit of hunting around to play different files, but each file is contiguous in itself. There's also a bootblock kind of structure to the disc, with headers identifying the type of disc. These are just a few reasons why you use video-DVD creation tools to create DVDs, rather than try to do it all by hand. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.80.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 8 15:48:59 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: dvdformat a loopback device
On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 5:45 PM Bill Cunningham wrote: > OK so how exactly do I create an "empty" ISO file? I will try to explain > by example. Why do you want to create an empty ISO file? The way I do it is: - create a normal directory - put the contents of the DVD in said directory; i.e., if creating a DVD, create the VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS directories,copy the VOBs, etc. in - run the mkiso command - you'll need to look at man pages and/or google for specifics, but the basic idea is you specify the "source" directory and the name of the ISO file There may be other ways to accomplish the same end result - it all depends on what you are trying to accomplish; i.e. what is the end result? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Dvdauthor and dvdbackup
On Sun, 2022-12-18 at 14:14 -0500, Bill C wrote: > I notice a DVD, or ISO that has special features usually is converted > to a much smaller acceptable size with just a feature. Something is > being done there, I hope that makes sense. If you look at the files on a DVD, you'll see a structure like: An empty AUDIO_TS (audio title sets) directory, since audio DVDs are rare, and that's its only use. A VIDEO_TS (video title sets) directory, holding all the files for a video DVD playback. Inside it are a bunch of VIDEO_TS.IFO and VIDEO_TS.BUP files, they're the info (info and back-up files) about playing the VIDEO_TS.VOB files (video object, which have video and sound). The un-numbered ones would be things like the animated DISK menus. The main feature will have a series of files like: VTS_01_0.IFO meta data for playing this clip VTS_01_0.BUP back-up of the meta data VTS_01_0.VOB an intro or video menu for playing this video clip VTS_01.1.VOB part 1 of the main feature VTS_01.2.VOB part 2 of the main feature VTS_01.3.VOB part 3 of the main feature, etc. VTS_02_0.IFO meta data for playing this clip VTS_02_0.BUP back-up of the meta data VTS_02_0.VOB an intro or video menu for playing this clip VTS_02_1.VOB part 1 of the second video clip VTS_02_2.VOB part 2 of the second video clip VTS_02_3.VOB part 3 of the second video clip, etc. And so on, and so forth. If you only want the main feature, it's only going to make use of VTS01.1.VOB (and the next series of .2.VOB, .3.VOB, etc parts), ignoring everything else. Some discs have more extras than the main feature, hence a large size reduction (as well as recompressing into a smaller video format). The IFO files are the so-called index files for playing each video clip. They're only of direct use for the DVD player, but your decoder will also use them to create whatever it needs out of the VOB files. If you have an un-encrypted DVD, you can play the VOB files directly, they're only MPEG video. You could drop VTS_01.1.VOB, VTS_01.2.VOB, and VTS_01.3.VOB, into the playlist of VLC (or equivelent), and it'd play the movie straight through. Encrypted files need decoding, and that was cracked decades ago. I won't condone piracy, but have no qualms about backing up discs I've bought to something more convenient to play. I've paid for DVDs, I expect to be able to watch the movie, and it pisses me off extremely to have to sit through 2 minutes of crap before I can do so. More so on multi-disc box sets, with every disc doing that to you. Even more so when you put in the wrong disc, and have to go through this pallaver several times to play the one you want (rarely are the discs indexed on the box as to what's on which, and rarely are the discs labelled with their content). -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.80.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 8 15:48:59 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Tip: how to make your own resolv.conf
On 12/18/22 13:42, Felix Miata wrote: Tom Horsley composed on 2022-12-18 16:27 (UTC-0500): On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 21:19:02 + Barry wrote: That like my router config. Except I use systemd-networkd not networkmanager. Its been stable over lots of fedora releases. Right up till the release when they decide to eradicate it because everyone must use NetworkManager :-). Eradicate an easy-to-use component of systemd from systemd's flagship distro? Heresy!!! No fooling! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Tip: how to make your own resolv.conf
On 12/18/22 13:54, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/17/22 16:38, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: If you are tired of all the bugs and Micky Mouse surrounding /etc/resolv.conf, here is how to make your own that Micky can't alter: Your problem appears to be that you're trying to configure your system outside of the normal tools to do so. Did you try setting the network manager config for the interface to use the DNS server you wanted instead of the one it gets from DHCP? Yup. Did not make any difference. The only thing that kept Micky Mouse and Friends at bay was giving the a "doggy chew toy" to distract them from the real resolv.conf. By the way, I tried both fixed on floating on my internet facing interface. No difference. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Tip: how to make your own resolv.conf
On 12/18/22 06:22, Roger Heflin wrote: From what I can tell they developers expect everyone to do the config in exactly one way. If you do the config differently (ie the old way, and if dns is not configured/defined I assume from dhcp and/or directly in the Network manager config), then the software rewrites the file with a valid entry in it, to have no entry. Developers seem to ignore backward compatibility and/or supporting how something has been configured since before they were born. After powering down last night and powering up again this morning, it was awfully nice to have everything working correctly. Chuckle. All is took was giving the developers a "doggy chew toy" (fake resolv.conf) to distract them from messing up my networking and all suddenly worked. The must think everyone only has one network card. Fedora Server folks must be crying blood. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: dvdformat a loopback device
On 12/18/22 14:44, Bill Cunningham wrote: OK so how exactly do I create an "empty" ISO file? I will try to explain by example. The simple answer is you don't. They are not designed for that. However, there is a multi-session extension that lets you add another chunk of files to an existing iso. But you can't just add files one by one to the image. wold I have to turn to mkfs.udf for this? IDK if that is a ISO. I learned something. Yes, you can use udf for this. But what is your use case? What are you trying to do? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: dvdformat a loopback device
On 12/18/2022 5:08 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/18/22 14:03, Bill Cunningham wrote: On 12/18/2022 4:47 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/18/22 13:40, Bill Cunningham wrote: IDK if you can do this or not. Say if you have a file that is 2.048 Gig and it is attached to a loopback device, say /dev/loop0, losetup /dev/loop0 FILE_NAME, And you tried cdrwtool -d /dev/loop0 -q; Now I have tried this and get errors. IDK if there's a way around this, a safety issue that is built in, or maybe I am not using the right program to format a "dvd". Can you dvdformat a loopback device? No, that doesn't make any sense. The formatting is a physical thing. For a disk image, you just make an .iso file. You can later write that to a physical disk. What are you trying to do? I thought I would make the format, observe the detail then copy. For example, I can format a loopback and observe the data with a hexdump like xxd. This seems to work and thre is no physical device, I use dd to create a 2.048 Gb zero'd file, for example. losetup /dev/loop0 FILE to mount the loopback, mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/loop0 and detach and xxd -g1 FILE. There is a formatted FAT32 filesystem. Why can't this be done with a DVD format UDF file? Because the format doesn't work like that. It's designed for sequential writing, you don't random access write to optical media. (At least for CD and DVD.) The format command just writes the initialization information to the optical media, it's data for the drive, not part of the filesystem. You use one of the iso tools to create UDF files, you don't need a loopback for it. OK so how exactly do I create an "empty" ISO file? I will try to explain by example. As above say I have an "empty" vfat format. mount /dev/loop /mnt which is attached to a FILE. copy files manually into the /mnt directory. Be they VOBs IFOs or such. wold I have to turn to mkfs.udf for this? IDK if that is a ISO. B ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: dvdformat a loopback device
On 12/18/2022 5:08 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/18/22 14:03, Bill Cunningham wrote: On 12/18/2022 4:47 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/18/22 13:40, Bill Cunningham wrote: IDK if you can do this or not. Say if you have a file that is 2.048 Gig and it is attached to a loopback device, say /dev/loop0, losetup /dev/loop0 FILE_NAME, And you tried cdrwtool -d /dev/loop0 -q; Now I have tried this and get errors. IDK if there's a way around this, a safety issue that is built in, or maybe I am not using the right program to format a "dvd". Can you dvdformat a loopback device? No, that doesn't make any sense. The formatting is a physical thing. For a disk image, you just make an .iso file. You can later write that to a physical disk. What are you trying to do? I thought I would make the format, observe the detail then copy. For example, I can format a loopback and observe the data with a hexdump like xxd. This seems to work and thre is no physical device, I use dd to create a 2.048 Gb zero'd file, for example. losetup /dev/loop0 FILE to mount the loopback, mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/loop0 and detach and xxd -g1 FILE. There is a formatted FAT32 filesystem. Why can't this be done with a DVD format UDF file? Because the format doesn't work like that. It's designed for sequential writing, you don't random access write to optical media. (At least for CD and DVD.) The format command just writes the initialization information to the optical media, it's data for the drive, not part of the filesystem. You use one of the iso tools to create UDF files, you don't need a loopback for it. OK I think I see, thanks for your insight. B ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: dvdformat a loopback device
On 12/18/22 14:03, Bill Cunningham wrote: On 12/18/2022 4:47 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/18/22 13:40, Bill Cunningham wrote: IDK if you can do this or not. Say if you have a file that is 2.048 Gig and it is attached to a loopback device, say /dev/loop0, losetup /dev/loop0 FILE_NAME, And you tried cdrwtool -d /dev/loop0 -q; Now I have tried this and get errors. IDK if there's a way around this, a safety issue that is built in, or maybe I am not using the right program to format a "dvd". Can you dvdformat a loopback device? No, that doesn't make any sense. The formatting is a physical thing. For a disk image, you just make an .iso file. You can later write that to a physical disk. What are you trying to do? I thought I would make the format, observe the detail then copy. For example, I can format a loopback and observe the data with a hexdump like xxd. This seems to work and thre is no physical device, I use dd to create a 2.048 Gb zero'd file, for example. losetup /dev/loop0 FILE to mount the loopback, mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/loop0 and detach and xxd -g1 FILE. There is a formatted FAT32 filesystem. Why can't this be done with a DVD format UDF file? Because the format doesn't work like that. It's designed for sequential writing, you don't random access write to optical media. (At least for CD and DVD.) The format command just writes the initialization information to the optical media, it's data for the drive, not part of the filesystem. You use one of the iso tools to create UDF files, you don't need a loopback for it. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: dvdformat a loopback device
On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 5:03 PM Bill Cunningham wrote: > losetup /dev/loop0 FILE to mount the loopback, > > mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/loop0 > > and detach and xxd -g1 FILE. Use mkiso to create FILE, and then you can hexdump FILE directly. You can also then "mount FILE /mt" (or similar) if you want to examine the data as a mounted file system. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: dvdformat a loopback device
On 12/18/2022 5:02 PM, Go Canes wrote: On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 4:41 PM Bill Cunningham wrote: IDK if you can do this or not. Say if you have a file that is 2.048 Gig and it is attached to a loopback device, say /dev/loop0, losetup /dev/loop0 FILE_NAME, And you tried cdrwtool -d /dev/loop0 -q; Now I have tried this and get errors. IDK if there's a way around this, a safety issue that is built in, or maybe I am not using the right program to format a "dvd". Can you dvdformat a loopback device? If you are trying to create the DVD file system, you want to use something like mkiso. I've never used cdrwtool, but based on the name I would think it is used to send the commands to a disc burner to actually burn the disk - but it would need the data to burn, such as an iso file created by something like mkiso. Hmm. That makes sense. It uses libburnia libraries I believe. xorrecord and dvd+rw-format don't work either. B ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: dvdformat a loopback device
On 12/18/2022 4:47 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/18/22 13:40, Bill Cunningham wrote: IDK if you can do this or not. Say if you have a file that is 2.048 Gig and it is attached to a loopback device, say /dev/loop0, losetup /dev/loop0 FILE_NAME, And you tried cdrwtool -d /dev/loop0 -q; Now I have tried this and get errors. IDK if there's a way around this, a safety issue that is built in, or maybe I am not using the right program to format a "dvd". Can you dvdformat a loopback device? No, that doesn't make any sense. The formatting is a physical thing. For a disk image, you just make an .iso file. You can later write that to a physical disk. What are you trying to do? I thought I would make the format, observe the detail then copy. For example, I can format a loopback and observe the data with a hexdump like xxd. This seems to work and thre is no physical device, I use dd to create a 2.048 Gb zero'd file, for example. losetup /dev/loop0 FILE to mount the loopback, mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/loop0 and detach and xxd -g1 FILE. There is a formatted FAT32 filesystem. Why can't this be done with a DVD format UDF file? Hope that makes sense. B ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: dvdformat a loopback device
On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 4:41 PM Bill Cunningham wrote: > > IDK if you can do this or not. Say if you have a file that is 2.048 Gig > and it is attached to a loopback device, say /dev/loop0, > > losetup /dev/loop0 FILE_NAME, > > And you tried cdrwtool -d /dev/loop0 -q; > > Now I have tried this and get errors. IDK if there's a way around this, > a safety issue that is built in, or maybe I am not using the right > program to format a "dvd". > > Can you dvdformat a loopback device? If you are trying to create the DVD file system, you want to use something like mkiso. I've never used cdrwtool, but based on the name I would think it is used to send the commands to a disc burner to actually burn the disk - but it would need the data to burn, such as an iso file created by something like mkiso. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Tip: how to make your own resolv.conf
On 12/17/22 16:38, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: If you are tired of all the bugs and Micky Mouse surrounding /etc/resolv.conf, here is how to make your own that Micky can't alter: Your problem appears to be that you're trying to configure your system outside of the normal tools to do so. Did you try setting the network manager config for the interface to use the DNS server you wanted instead of the one it gets from DHCP? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: dvdformat a loopback device
On 12/18/22 13:40, Bill Cunningham wrote: IDK if you can do this or not. Say if you have a file that is 2.048 Gig and it is attached to a loopback device, say /dev/loop0, losetup /dev/loop0 FILE_NAME, And you tried cdrwtool -d /dev/loop0 -q; Now I have tried this and get errors. IDK if there's a way around this, a safety issue that is built in, or maybe I am not using the right program to format a "dvd". Can you dvdformat a loopback device? No, that doesn't make any sense. The formatting is a physical thing. For a disk image, you just make an .iso file. You can later write that to a physical disk. What are you trying to do? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Tip: how to make your own resolv.conf
Tom Horsley composed on 2022-12-18 16:27 (UTC-0500): > On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 21:19:02 + Barry wrote: >> That like my router config. Except I use systemd-networkd not networkmanager. >> Its been stable over lots of fedora releases. > Right up till the release when they decide to eradicate it > because everyone must use NetworkManager :-). Eradicate an easy-to-use component of systemd from systemd's flagship distro? Heresy!!! -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
dvdformat a loopback device
IDK if you can do this or not. Say if you have a file that is 2.048 Gig and it is attached to a loopback device, say /dev/loop0, losetup /dev/loop0 FILE_NAME, And you tried cdrwtool -d /dev/loop0 -q; Now I have tried this and get errors. IDK if there's a way around this, a safety issue that is built in, or maybe I am not using the right program to format a "dvd". Can you dvdformat a loopback device? B ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Tip: how to make your own resolv.conf
On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 21:19:02 + Barry wrote: > That like my router config. Except I use systemd-networkd not networkmanager. > Its been stable over lots of fedora releases. Right up till the release when they decide to eradicate it because everyone must use NetworkManager :-). That's why I gave up and figured out how to beat NetworkManager into submission sicne I figured I'd be forced to use it in the not too distant future. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Tip: how to make your own resolv.conf
> On 18 Dec 2022, at 08:25, ToddAndMargo via users > wrote: > > On 12/17/22 19:24, Tim via users wrote: >>> On Sat, 2022-12-17 at 16:38 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: >>> If you are tired of all the bugs and Micky Mouse >>> surrounding /etc/resolv.conf, here is how to make >>> your own that Micky can't alter: >> What I don't get is *why* it does this interference when you've either >> manually configured your network settings on your PC, or you >> specifically configure your DHCP server to configure your client the >> way you want. What good can come of doing unexpected things to a >> network configuration? > > > > I do not know what FC37 did. > > By the way, I have two network cards. > > The Internet facing was using dhclient to get > an IP from my router's dhcp server. I have now > switched it to fixed IP. > > My other network card has a DHCP server connected > to an internal DDNS server on it to to service > the comptuers on the internal side of the network. > > Both cards are connected through iptables. That like my router config. Except I use systemd-networkd not networkmanager. Its been stable over lots of fedora releases. Barry > > What ever helpful tools FC37 installed or updated > did not realize the comlexitiy of the network > and made things a nightmare for me. > > > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Dvdauthor and dvdbackup
When I say acceptable size I mean an MP4. On Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 2:14 PM Bill C wrote: > I notice a DVD, or ISO that has special features usually is converted to a > much smaller acceptable size with just a feature. Something is being done > there, I hope that makes sense. > > On Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 3:39 AM Tim via users > wrote: > >> On Sat, 2022-12-17 at 23:27 -0500, Bill C wrote: >> > I tried to copy just the "feature" vobs and such from a DVD iso >> > using dvdbackup and I didn't know if anything needed to be done using >> > dvdauthor. I have kind of given up on the iso to MP4 idea, though I >> > know it can be done. Would an index need to be created somehow with >> > dvdauthor to get certain vobs to play? >> >> If you're just copying the main feature of a DVD, then it's usually a >> multi-part VOB broken apart every gigabyte (unless the feature is so >> small its just one gigabyte VOB file, by itself). All the other >> ancillary VOBs can be ignored (normally speaking, unless they've done >> something odd to thwart piracy). >> >> If you were converting it to a MP4 that didn't have that gigabyte >> filesize problem, you could convert all the VOB sections into a single >> larger file (as part of the conversion process). >> >> If you had to keep it in gigabyte pieces, then there are players which >> could be given a playlist of the parts to play (m3u or pls files, for >> instance). They're little more than a text file with each filename on >> a new line, in the order of which file to play. >> >> Bearing in mind that the gigabyte-sized chunks takes into account >> limitations of the filesystem it's stored on, as well as the player >> playing it, and probably networking, too. >> >> -- >> >> uname -rsvp >> Linux 3.10.0-1160.80.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 8 15:48:59 UTC 2022 >> x86_64 >> >> Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. >> I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. >> >> ___ >> users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Fedora Code of Conduct: >> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ >> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines >> List Archives: >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Do not reply to spam, report it: >> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue >> > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Dvdauthor and dvdbackup
I notice a DVD, or ISO that has special features usually is converted to a much smaller acceptable size with just a feature. Something is being done there, I hope that makes sense. On Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 3:39 AM Tim via users wrote: > On Sat, 2022-12-17 at 23:27 -0500, Bill C wrote: > > I tried to copy just the "feature" vobs and such from a DVD iso > > using dvdbackup and I didn't know if anything needed to be done using > > dvdauthor. I have kind of given up on the iso to MP4 idea, though I > > know it can be done. Would an index need to be created somehow with > > dvdauthor to get certain vobs to play? > > If you're just copying the main feature of a DVD, then it's usually a > multi-part VOB broken apart every gigabyte (unless the feature is so > small its just one gigabyte VOB file, by itself). All the other > ancillary VOBs can be ignored (normally speaking, unless they've done > something odd to thwart piracy). > > If you were converting it to a MP4 that didn't have that gigabyte > filesize problem, you could convert all the VOB sections into a single > larger file (as part of the conversion process). > > If you had to keep it in gigabyte pieces, then there are players which > could be given a playlist of the parts to play (m3u or pls files, for > instance). They're little more than a text file with each filename on > a new line, in the order of which file to play. > > Bearing in mind that the gigabyte-sized chunks takes into account > limitations of the filesystem it's stored on, as well as the player > playing it, and probably networking, too. > > -- > > uname -rsvp > Linux 3.10.0-1160.80.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 8 15:48:59 UTC 2022 x86_64 > > Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. > I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. > > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Dvdauthor and dvdbackup
If I have only the "movie" , no special features, an MP4 or mkv is the way to go. I try to save an MP4 that way. Six to seven hundred meg's is better than 7 gig. I have read that dvdauthor created an "index" whatever that is. On Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 3:39 AM Tim via users wrote: > On Sat, 2022-12-17 at 23:27 -0500, Bill C wrote: > > I tried to copy just the "feature" vobs and such from a DVD iso > > using dvdbackup and I didn't know if anything needed to be done using > > dvdauthor. I have kind of given up on the iso to MP4 idea, though I > > know it can be done. Would an index need to be created somehow with > > dvdauthor to get certain vobs to play? > > If you're just copying the main feature of a DVD, then it's usually a > multi-part VOB broken apart every gigabyte (unless the feature is so > small its just one gigabyte VOB file, by itself). All the other > ancillary VOBs can be ignored (normally speaking, unless they've done > something odd to thwart piracy). > > If you were converting it to a MP4 that didn't have that gigabyte > filesize problem, you could convert all the VOB sections into a single > larger file (as part of the conversion process). > > If you had to keep it in gigabyte pieces, then there are players which > could be given a playlist of the parts to play (m3u or pls files, for > instance). They're little more than a text file with each filename on > a new line, in the order of which file to play. > > Bearing in mind that the gigabyte-sized chunks takes into account > limitations of the filesystem it's stored on, as well as the player > playing it, and probably networking, too. > > -- > > uname -rsvp > Linux 3.10.0-1160.80.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 8 15:48:59 UTC 2022 x86_64 > > Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. > I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. > > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Fedora37: Fails to boot with NISDOMAIN=... in /etc/sysconfig/network
If the nisdomain is not responding, I would claim the system should still boot, so I would think that is a bug. But if systemd/pam is not timing out on the non-responding nisdomain or the timeout is too high then I would think that might screw up a significant part of the system because lookups of passwd/hosts/group access may not work, depending on where else nis pieces are setup. I would think if file was first and there is a valid entry in the file that it should not go to nisdomain, but that may depend on what the order is in /etc/nsswitch.conf. On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 10:03 AM Terry Barnaby wrote: > A strange one this. I was just updating a Fedora35 server to Fedora37, > using a full reinstall and then copying configuration files from the old > system. > > The system failed to boot with lots of strange issues with systemd. It > started with console messages like: > > [ TIME ] Timeout waiting for device dev-zram0.device - /dev/zram0. > > Some further issues with zram, followed by some other services starting > fine then the system gets in a loop: > > [ FAILED] Failed to start systemd-udevd.service - ... > > [ FAILED] Failed to start systemd-oomd.service - ... > > None of this was logged in /var/log/messages. > > After some tracking down on a VM, I found the issue was somehow caused > by having "NISDOMAIN=kingnet" in the file /etc/sysconfig/network. This > came from an old client configuration ,setting the NIS domain. This was > not actually needed on the server and in fact not needed on the clients > now as the DHCP does this on our systems, it was a hangback from 20 > years or so. > > I have no idea why this has caused the boot fail though, I thought I'd > mention it in case anyone else sees it. I will report it as a "bug" > against systemd although I'm not sure it is really a systemd issue or > really a bug at all, but a bit nasty as the system fails to boot. > > Terry > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Fedora37: Fails to boot with NISDOMAIN=... in /etc/sysconfig/network
A strange one this. I was just updating a Fedora35 server to Fedora37, using a full reinstall and then copying configuration files from the old system. The system failed to boot with lots of strange issues with systemd. It started with console messages like: [ TIME ] Timeout waiting for device dev-zram0.device - /dev/zram0. Some further issues with zram, followed by some other services starting fine then the system gets in a loop: [ FAILED] Failed to start systemd-udevd.service - ... [ FAILED] Failed to start systemd-oomd.service - ... None of this was logged in /var/log/messages. After some tracking down on a VM, I found the issue was somehow caused by having "NISDOMAIN=kingnet" in the file /etc/sysconfig/network. This came from an old client configuration ,setting the NIS domain. This was not actually needed on the server and in fact not needed on the clients now as the DHCP does this on our systems, it was a hangback from 20 years or so. I have no idea why this has caused the boot fail though, I thought I'd mention it in case anyone else sees it. I will report it as a "bug" against systemd although I'm not sure it is really a systemd issue or really a bug at all, but a bit nasty as the system fails to boot. Terry ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Tip: how to make your own resolv.conf
>From what I can tell they developers expect everyone to do the config in exactly one way. If you do the config differently (ie the old way, and if dns is not configured/defined I assume from dhcp and/or directly in the Network manager config), then the software rewrites the file with a valid entry in it, to have no entry. Developers seem to ignore backward compatibility and/or supporting how something has been configured since before they were born. On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 9:24 PM Tim via users wrote: > On Sat, 2022-12-17 at 16:38 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > If you are tired of all the bugs and Micky Mouse > > surrounding /etc/resolv.conf, here is how to make > > your own that Micky can't alter: > > What I don't get is *why* it does this interference when you've either > manually configured your network settings on your PC, or you > specifically configure your DHCP server to configure your client the > way you want. What good can come of doing unexpected things to a > network configuration? > > -- > > uname -rsvp > Linux 3.10.0-1160.80.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 8 15:48:59 UTC 2022 x86_64 > > Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. > I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. > > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: need perm. fix for monitor/display problem.
On 17/12/2022 22:38, Barry wrote: On 17 Dec 2022, at 17:47, home user wrote: On 12/17/22 10:15 AM, John Pilkington wrote: I run it in a konsole (KDE terminal) tab and see a screenful of data refreshed every 10 seconds. Mainly the interest here is on jobs run by user akmods. For me it's just a guide showing when the system should be able to boot without doing complex things while in an unfamiliar state. If you boot before then it should work, but the action will be more 'under cover'. Escape should reveal more. For some time now, I've seen another process/user "mandb" running at the same time as or after the akmod processes at the end of (sometimes after) "dnf update". That mandb process seems to be slow; it takes a few minutes; yet it uses only one CPU. I'm guessing it's an I/O intensive process, but I don't really know. It seems that that, too, apparently has to be watched to make sure it's done before rebooting. I believe that if you reboot while mandb or akmod is running its fixed up as the system boots. I do not wait at all after dnf update and i have never seen a problem. This has been reliable for many years on my experience on multiple systems. I update approx 8 fedora systems every week like this. Barry Agreed. It usually works. But if it doesn't there's more to fix, in a more difficult environment. The rpmfusion guide recommends waiting. https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA /!\ Please remember to wait after the RPM transaction ends, until the kmod get built. This can take up to 5 minutes on some systems. and this is worth a look too: https://rpmfusion.org/CommonBugs There were statements here when, 6.0.5 first caused problems, that the 5-to-6 transition was simply linux running out of fingers and toes. I liked the image, but the problem was, briefly, real. John Bill. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Dvdauthor and dvdbackup
On Sat, 2022-12-17 at 23:27 -0500, Bill C wrote: > I tried to copy just the "feature" vobs and such from a DVD iso > using dvdbackup and I didn't know if anything needed to be done using > dvdauthor. I have kind of given up on the iso to MP4 idea, though I > know it can be done. Would an index need to be created somehow with > dvdauthor to get certain vobs to play? If you're just copying the main feature of a DVD, then it's usually a multi-part VOB broken apart every gigabyte (unless the feature is so small its just one gigabyte VOB file, by itself). All the other ancillary VOBs can be ignored (normally speaking, unless they've done something odd to thwart piracy). If you were converting it to a MP4 that didn't have that gigabyte filesize problem, you could convert all the VOB sections into a single larger file (as part of the conversion process). If you had to keep it in gigabyte pieces, then there are players which could be given a playlist of the parts to play (m3u or pls files, for instance). They're little more than a text file with each filename on a new line, in the order of which file to play. Bearing in mind that the gigabyte-sized chunks takes into account limitations of the filesystem it's stored on, as well as the player playing it, and probably networking, too. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.80.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 8 15:48:59 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Tip: how to make your own resolv.conf
On 12/17/22 19:24, Tim via users wrote: On Sat, 2022-12-17 at 16:38 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: If you are tired of all the bugs and Micky Mouse surrounding /etc/resolv.conf, here is how to make your own that Micky can't alter: What I don't get is *why* it does this interference when you've either manually configured your network settings on your PC, or you specifically configure your DHCP server to configure your client the way you want. What good can come of doing unexpected things to a network configuration? I do not know what FC37 did. By the way, I have two network cards. The Internet facing was using dhclient to get an IP from my router's dhcp server. I have now switched it to fixed IP. My other network card has a DHCP server connected to an internal DDNS server on it to to service the comptuers on the internal side of the network. Both cards are connected through iptables. What ever helpful tools FC37 installed or updated did not realize the comlexitiy of the network and made things a nightmare for me. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
