Re: iPad file backup?

2023-10-23 Thread Dave Close
I wrote:
> What the consumer world calls a router is barely worthy of the term.
> Why not invest a surprising small amount in a real router like the
> Ubiquiti Edgerouter X?

Tim via users wrote:

>There's been a few times I've considered doing that kind of thing,
>however some ISPs make it nearly impossible to run anything but their
>own router (they have their approved list).  I'm not sure if mine does
>that.  The other issue is trying to find something that actually is
>better, because lots of review are complete junk.
>
>Some while ago my ISP offered me a free upgrade router.  It was a
>complete disaster.  The 5 GHz WiFi was dead in the water, the 2 GHz
>WiFi failed often.  Sick of arguing with online support, I took it back
>to their shopfront and had it swapped.  The newer replacement 5 GHz
>worked, but it was still always disconnecting things, wanting you to
>log in to continue.  They expected me to accept that I'd have to
>continually reconnect to the network instead of it just working, they
>wouldn't accept that I didn't accept that, nor that various devices
>have no interface for you to do that with.  They couldn't accept that
>my old router didn't have that problem.  Morons!

That's one of the reasons I find consumer "routers" to be barely worthy
of the name. They're really wifi access points with some routing things
built in. I'd say get a good WAP and a separate router that can really
do what a router should be able to do. The ERX I mentioned does not
include any wifi (though I think Ubiquiti does make more expensive units
which do both).
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Re: docker and iptables

2023-10-23 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 3:40 AM jdow  wrote:
>
> On 20231019 19:15:47, David King wrote:
>
> On 10/19/23 21:53, Jonathan Billings wrote:
>
> On Oct 19, 2023, at 10:05, Alex  wrote:
>
> I'm using docker on fedora38 and can't figure out how to prevent port 8080 
> from being available to the outside world. I've done quite a bit of reading 
> on this, and it appears I'm not the only one having trouble figuring this 
> out. This docker doc appears to indicate it shouldn't be listening on the 
> external port when the -p option is not used.
>
> https://docs.docker.com/network/#the-world
>
> You should be using firewalld to limit access to services running in docker, 
> as described here:
>
> https://docs.docker.com/network/packet-filtering-firewalls/#integration-with-firewalld
>
> Indeed.  Fedora deprecated iptables a while ago.  It uses nftables now with 
> firewalld being used to configure it.
>
> And finally you can even set up a filter that allows a specific source to 
> attempt a connection no more often than once every 90 seconds. Before I found 
> that the IPTables "recent" option was the only solution newer than ipchains 
> where I first used the trick. I bet something as simple as "horsehair" is far 
> enough down the guess list that the probability of a successful attack is out 
> at way more time than I have life left. When you can put time on your side 
> life's great.
>
> Now, presuming he has another setup problem similar to the one I nominally 
> found a potential solution for two days ago and have not implemented yet can 
> you answer his actual question rather than accuse him of being a dunce using 
> the wrong and deprecated tool on the off hand chance he has a worthwhile 
> reason? It would be the polite thing to do, wouldn't it?

Hmmm... I think your assessment of the exchange was wrong. JB and DK
merely stated facts. They were not rude, and they did not speak
condescendingly.

For completeness, here is JB's response. It is not clear from your
quoting style:

> You should be using firewalld to limit access to services
running in docker, as described here:
>
> 
https://docs.docker.com/network/packet-filtering-firewalls/#integration-with-firewalld

And DK's response:

> Indeed.  Fedora deprecated iptables a while ago.  It uses nftables now
> with firewalld being used to configure it.

Perhaps you are conflating terseness with rudeness?

Jeff
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Re: docker and iptables

2023-10-23 Thread Joe Zeff

On 10/23/2023 09:54 PM, Tim via users wrote:

I had to set a password for some in-store credit card, later on I had
to tell them "th!sTh1ngreallysucks" to a person when it wouldn't work.


Back when I was doing tech support for an ISP, they had password 
protected web pages that were only accessible from inside the firewall, 
and had to be changed every 60 days, probably because they could, even 
if they didn't need to.  Most of mine were vulgar, which amused one of 
my leads when I had to tell it to her because it wasn't working.

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Re: docker and iptables

2023-10-23 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2023-10-20 at 10:42 -0600, Joe Zeff wrote:
> I used to house sit for Jerry Pournelle, and you might consider 
> something like his WiFi password: ThisIsAVeryLongPassword

I had to set a password for some in-store credit card, later on I had
to tell them "th!sTh1ngreallysucks" to a person when it wouldn't work.
 
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Re: Did something just change with HDMI support?

2023-10-23 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2023-10-23 at 21:39 -0300, George N. White III wrote:
> 3 dogs here.  One that justs wants to be told how pretty he is, one that 
> listens carefully and does what I tell him to do, and one that wants me
> to come out and play if I stay at the computer for more than an hour.

And people actually write software to encourage users to take a break
from spending too much time at their computer...  ;-)
 
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Re: iPad file backup?

2023-10-23 Thread Tim via users
Tim:
>> Also, I've found routers to have woefully underpowered CPUs, barely
>> managing to handle modest internet traffic.  Not to mention the
>> primitive configuration options available to you.

I didn't even mention how it was so slow that it barely manages to run
its own web interface.  Click on something, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait.  Dial-up internet is faster...


Dave Close wrote:
> What the consumer world calls a router is barely worthy of the term.
> Why not invest a surprising small amount in a real router like the
> Ubiquiti Edgerouter X?

There's been a few times I've considered doing that kind of thing,
however some ISPs make it nearly impossible to run anything but their
own router (they have their approved list).  I'm not sure if mine does
that.  The other issue is trying to find something that actually is
better, because lots of review are complete junk.

Some while ago my ISP offered me a free upgrade router.  It was a
complete disaster.  The 5 GHz WiFi was dead in the water, the 2 GHz
WiFi failed often.  Sick of arguing with online support, I took it back
to their shopfront and had it swapped.  The newer replacement 5 GHz
worked, but it was still always disconnecting things, wanting you to
log in to continue.  They expected me to accept that I'd have to
continually reconnect to the network instead of it just working, they
wouldn't accept that I didn't accept that, nor that various devices
have no interface for you to do that with.  They couldn't accept that
my old router didn't have that problem.  Morons!

So the upgrade sits unplugged on the shelf.

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Re: iPad file backup?

2023-10-23 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 10/23/23 06:08, Dave Ihnat wrote:

All that said, the solution I've been implementing is a hybrid
model. Cloud for only non-critical data transfer with clients and
customers--NO sensitive information whatsoever. On-premises, we provide a
private cloud using NextCloud. It's easy to build on a Linux system, works
on a VM, and is easy to use. I have a detailed generic guide to
installation and configuration if anyone wishes.

So you might consider putting up your own NextCloud instance.


I have my own NextCloud instance as well.  I use NextCloud and syncthing 
for transferring pictures and files to and from the phones and tablets. 
I actually prefer syncthing because it allows bi-directional syncing. 
NextCloud doesn't seem to support that.  It's push-only from the phone. 
Deleting on my side doesn't delete from the phone.

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Re: Did something just change with HDMI support?

2023-10-23 Thread Mauricio Tavares
On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 7:23 PM Tom Horsley  wrote:
>
> On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 18:18:17 -0500
> Roger Heflin wrote:
>
> > Is your TV a Smart TV and is it connected to the internet in some way?
>
> Yea, I asked the same question on a samsung forum to find out
> if some samsung update is responsible, but since I just tried booting
> the previous kernel, the banner display has stopped, so I suspect
> linux more than samsung :-).
>
  If it helps any, my monitor at work is also Samsung and it shows
every so often a simple black-n-white banner on the top left saying
which HDMI port it is using *if* the laptop was sleeping and I just
tapped the external keyboard to wake it up. After a bit it will then
show the screen where I can unlock the screen.
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Re: Did something just change with HDMI support?

2023-10-23 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 9:18 PM Roger Heflin  wrote:

> I am sure it just wants to be helpful.   Much like my dog wants to
> help me with whatever I am doing.
>

I use a Vizio TV.  The initial display and user menus change randomly, and
even though it is
connected by ethernet it sometimes complains that wifi is not available.
The latest
version is an improvement.

>
3 dogs here.  One that justs wants to be told how pretty he is, one that
listens carefully and does what I tell him to do, and one that wants me
to come out and play if I stay at the computer for more than an hour.

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Re: Did something just change with HDMI support?

2023-10-23 Thread Roger Heflin
I am sure it just wants to be helpful.   Much like my dog wants to
help me with whatever I am doing.

I really wish more developers would actually use their own products
rather than just code for it and/or test it and realize how
idiotic/annoying some of their cute but useless features are.

On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 7:12 PM Tom Horsley  wrote:
>
> On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 19:21:16 -0400
> Tom Horsley wrote:
>
> > I just booted into kernel 6.5.6-200.fc38.x86_64 and it doesn't seem
> > to display the annoying banner any longer, so I'm guessing it is
> > something "helpful" linux has done (I was previously using kernel
> > 6.5.7-200.fc38.x86_64 where the annoying banner shows up).
>
> Didn't leave it off long enough. The older kernel acts the same, so
> maybe it is the TV.
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Re: Did something just change with HDMI support?

2023-10-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 19:21:16 -0400
Tom Horsley wrote:

> I just booted into kernel 6.5.6-200.fc38.x86_64 and it doesn't seem
> to display the annoying banner any longer, so I'm guessing it is
> something "helpful" linux has done (I was previously using kernel
> 6.5.7-200.fc38.x86_64 where the annoying banner shows up).

Didn't leave it off long enough. The older kernel acts the same, so
maybe it is the TV.
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Re: Did something just change with HDMI support?

2023-10-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 18:18:17 -0500
Roger Heflin wrote:

> Is your TV a Smart TV and is it connected to the internet in some way?

Yea, I asked the same question on a samsung forum to find out
if some samsung update is responsible, but since I just tried booting
the previous kernel, the banner display has stopped, so I suspect
linux more than samsung :-).
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Re: Did something just change with HDMI support?

2023-10-23 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 18:59:31 -0400
Tom Horsley wrote:

> I use my samsung TV (QN90B) as a monitor. Until today, when I turned
> it on, the picture would come right up and I could use it immediately.
> Now, for some reason, a big banner appears at the top of the screen
> telling me it is connected to HDMI 4 and saying what resolution it
> is displaying (and the time of day). Is some fancy new power management
> turning off the HDMI port when it detects the monitor was powered
> down, then turning it back on and inducing the TV to report this info?
> 
> It is very irritating.
> 
> (I'm using the nvidia drivers from rpmfusion.)

I just booted into kernel 6.5.6-200.fc38.x86_64 and it doesn't seem
to display the annoying banner any longer, so I'm guessing it is
something "helpful" linux has done (I was previously using kernel
6.5.7-200.fc38.x86_64 where the annoying banner shows up).

I wonder if there is some /proc flag I can use to turn off whatever
this is?
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Re: Did something just change with HDMI support?

2023-10-23 Thread Roger Heflin
My TV as a monitor seems to randomly change its behavior.

I suspect (since I had had the behavior change without
rebooting/restarting X/Wayland) that the TV is updating firmware and
reporting its boot up differently.

Is your TV a Smart TV and is it connected to the internet in some way?

On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 6:00 PM Tom Horsley  wrote:
>
> I use my samsung TV (QN90B) as a monitor. Until today, when I turned
> it on, the picture would come right up and I could use it immediately.
> Now, for some reason, a big banner appears at the top of the screen
> telling me it is connected to HDMI 4 and saying what resolution it
> is displaying (and the time of day). Is some fancy new power management
> turning off the HDMI port when it detects the monitor was powered
> down, then turning it back on and inducing the TV to report this info?
>
> It is very irritating.
>
> (I'm using the nvidia drivers from rpmfusion.)
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Did something just change with HDMI support?

2023-10-23 Thread Tom Horsley
I use my samsung TV (QN90B) as a monitor. Until today, when I turned
it on, the picture would come right up and I could use it immediately.
Now, for some reason, a big banner appears at the top of the screen
telling me it is connected to HDMI 4 and saying what resolution it
is displaying (and the time of day). Is some fancy new power management
turning off the HDMI port when it detects the monitor was powered
down, then turning it back on and inducing the TV to report this info?

It is very irritating.

(I'm using the nvidia drivers from rpmfusion.)
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Re: iPad file backup?

2023-10-23 Thread Dave Ihnat
On 23 Oct at 15:55, Dave Close  wrote:
> What the consumer world calls a router is barely worthy of the term.
> Why not invest a surprising small amount in a real router like the
> Ubiquiti Edgerouter X?

Actually, I'm having excellent results with the GL.iNET products (for
business, I'm all for WatchGuard Fireboxes).

I bought the Slate AX (GL-AXT1800) for my laptop. It was amazingly
flexible and gave great performance. Then a client who couldn't
budget for a WatchGuard for his business agreed to try the Brume 2
(GL-MT2500A). Again, it's worked great for him.

It's based on OpenWRT. They put their own GUI over it, but you can get into
the full LuCI GUI interface, or CLI. The prices are in line with mid- to
higher-end retail router/firewalls, but it's far better.

$0.02, YMMV. I'm not associated in any way with GL.iNET, nor do I get
anything for saying good things about the product. And, of course, it's
always subject to change if they do.

G'luck,
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Re: docker and iptables

2023-10-23 Thread Thomas Cameron via users

On 10/20/23 11:42, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 10/20/2023 01:39 AM, jdow wrote:
I bet something as simple as "horsehair" is far enough down the guess 
list that the probability of a successful attack is out at way more 
time than I have life left. When you can put time on your side life's 
great.


I used to house sit for Jerry Pournelle, and you might consider 
something like his WiFi password: ThisIsAVeryLongPassword

pwgen 16 -cnys
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Re: iPad file backup?

2023-10-23 Thread Dave Close
Tim via users wrote:

>Also, I've found routers to have woefully underpowered CPUs, barely
>managing to handle modest internet traffic.  Not to mention the
>primitive configuration options available to you.

What the consumer world calls a router is barely worthy of the term.
Why not invest a surprising small amount in a real router like the
Ubiquiti Edgerouter X?
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Re: iPad file backup?

2023-10-23 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 4:12 PM Tim via users
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>
> On Mon, 2023-10-23 at 08:21 -0700, Doug Herr wrote:
> > That reminds me that my last router had the option to plug in a stick
> > or drive via usb and present that to the LAN as a shared storage
> > option.
>
> Mine have that, too.  While I'd happily plug in something to watch a
> video file on the TV, I wouldn't use them for personal files.
>
> They're on the router, which connects to the outside world, and I have
> no idea how well isolated this is from the WAN.

Not to mention the router is probably configured for Medium security
by the service provider.

And UPnP is probably running so websites can punch holes in your
firewall and reconfigure the device..

> Also, I've found routers to have woefully underpowered CPUs, barely
> managing to handle modest internet traffic.  Not to mention the
> primitive configuration options available to you.

Jeff
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Re: iPad file backup?

2023-10-23 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2023-10-23 at 08:21 -0700, Doug Herr wrote:
> That reminds me that my last router had the option to plug in a stick
> or drive via usb and present that to the LAN as a shared storage
> option.

Mine have that, too.  While I'd happily plug in something to watch a
video file on the TV, I wouldn't use them for personal files.

They're on the router, which connects to the outside world, and I have
no idea how well isolated this is from the WAN.

Also, I've found routers to have woefully underpowered CPUs, barely
managing to handle modest internet traffic.  Not to mention the
primitive configuration options available to you.
 
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Re: iPad file backup?

2023-10-23 Thread Doug Herr
On Mon, Oct 23, 2023, at 4:33 AM, Tim via users wrote:
> I had one of those WD or Seagate NAS drives, that have their own local
> cloud within your LAN feature.  They supported the back-up schemes of
> Windows and Mac.
[snip]

That reminds me that my last router had the option to plug in a stick or drive 
via usb and present that to the LAN as a shared storage option.
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Re: Sound synthesizer for Linux

2023-10-23 Thread Fulko Hew
On Mon, Oct 23, 2023 at 9:33 AM Michael Schwendt 
wrote:

> On Sun, 22 Oct 2023 19:59:56 -0400, Fulko Hew wrote:
>
> > About 15 years or so ago, I was using a sound synthesizer on Fedora
> > that was GUI drag-n-drop sound modules, and draw wires between them
> > There were VCOs, filters, ADSR, mixers, etc.
> >
> > It looks like I never wrote down what I installed back then.
> > Can anyone remember or think of what that software was called?
> > Nothing I've been able to Google now resembles that simple/powerful tool.
>
> Ardour?
>

No, Ardour is all about recording/mixing.  That's not it.

Don Marti suggested that old Linux Journal article, and although
I had seen it, I didn't read it completely the first time around.

I think AMS was the app I used decades ago.
So I did DNF install it last night, and although it ran,
I couldn't get any output; either as sound or recorded into a file.
So I don't know what's wrong.
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Re: iPad file backup?

2023-10-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2023-10-23 at 08:08 -0500, Dave Ihnat wrote:
> On 23 Oct at 05:39, Patrick O'Callaghan 
> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2023-10-23 at 03:16 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> > > Nothing other than than cloud backup gives both my
> > > wife and me the creeps.
> > 
> > That's your call of course. It's a question of weighing the
> > benefits
> > against potential risks, which only you can do. In my case I
> > consider
> > the potential risks to be negligible and the benefits considerable,
> > but
> > YMMV.
> 
> I've been a consultant for over 45 years. I've seen fads come and go,
> along with more consistent changes that survive. Cloud isn't a fad--
> it's not going away--but it is still finding itself. And implementors
> are not, in my professional opinion, anywhere near a secure and
> sustainable final solution. None will sign meaningful contracts that
> hold them liable for downtime or data loss.

To be clear, I'm not advocating the use of a cloud service as an
alternative to local storage. The specific question here is about
facilitating data transfer between two incompatible systems. Keeping
your valuable data in the cloud, with or without local backup, is a
different issue.

poc
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Re: Sound synthesizer for Linux

2023-10-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 22 Oct 2023 19:59:56 -0400, Fulko Hew wrote:

> About 15 years or so ago, I was using a sound synthesizer on Fedora
> that was GUI drag-n-drop sound modules, and draw wires between them
> There were VCOs, filters, ADSR, mixers, etc.
> 
> It looks like I never wrote down what I installed back then.
> Can anyone remember or think of what that software was called?
> Nothing I've been able to Google now resembles that simple/powerful tool.

Ardour?
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Re: iPad file backup?

2023-10-23 Thread Dave Ihnat
On 23 Oct at 05:39, Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:
> On Mon, 2023-10-23 at 03:16 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> > Nothing other than than cloud backup gives both my
> > wife and me the creeps.
> 
> That's your call of course. It's a question of weighing the benefits
> against potential risks, which only you can do. In my case I consider
> the potential risks to be negligible and the benefits considerable, but
> YMMV.

I've been a consultant for over 45 years. I've seen fads come and go, along
with more consistent changes that survive. Cloud isn't a fad--it's not
going away--but it is still finding itself. And implementors are not, in my
professional opinion, anywhere near a secure and sustainable final
solution. None will sign meaningful contracts that hold them liable for
downtime or data loss. Punitive charges for data extraction still
exist--the "roach motel" model. Security isn't where it needs to be,
especially considering they're a high-value centralized target for attack.
And transparency across the field is lacking--who has access to the data
resident on their servers, what redundancy, backup, and protection schemes
are in use, etc.

All that said, the solution I've been implementing is a hybrid
model. Cloud for only non-critical data transfer with clients and
customers--NO sensitive information whatsoever. On-premises, we provide a
private cloud using NextCloud. It's easy to build on a Linux system, works
on a VM, and is easy to use. I have a detailed generic guide to
installation and configuration if anyone wishes.

So you might consider putting up your own NextCloud instance.
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Re: iPad file backup?

2023-10-23 Thread Tim via users
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>> Is there any reason you can't upload them to a cloud service (Google
>> Drive, Dropbox etc.), then download them on the target system?

ToddAndMargo:
> Nothing other than than cloud backup gives both my
> wife and me the creeps.
> 

I had one of those WD or Seagate NAS drives, that have their own local
cloud within your LAN feature.  They supported the back-up schemes of
Windows and Mac.

So, supposedly, you have their streamlined method of doing backups and
restore, where you can follow the native instructions for doing it, and
just point them at your own personal cloud.

As well as just supporting the various network file systems (Mac,
Windows, and NFS), to use them as just a hard drive on the LAN.

Hint:  For the ones that are the size and shape of a fat hardback book,
prop them up with something so they can't be knocked over sideways. 
The little snap-on foot they supply isn't wide enough.
 
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Re: iPad file backup?

2023-10-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2023-10-23 at 03:16 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/23/23 02:20, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sun, 2023-10-22 at 16:03 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> > > My wife is just after her documents.  Sneaker net is an option.
> > Is there any reason you can't upload them to a cloud service
> > (Google
> > Drive, Dropbox etc.), then download them on the target system?
> > 
> > poc
> 
> Nothing other than than cloud backup gives both my
> wife and me the creeps.

That's your call of course. It's a question of weighing the benefits
against potential risks, which only you can do. In my case I consider
the potential risks to be negligible and the benefits considerable, but
YMMV.

poc
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Re: iPad file backup?

2023-10-23 Thread ToddAndMargo via users



On 10/23/23 02:20, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sun, 2023-10-22 at 16:03 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

My wife is just after her documents.  Sneaker net is an option.

Is there any reason you can't upload them to a cloud service (Google
Drive, Dropbox etc.), then download them on the target system?

poc


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Re: iPad file backup?

2023-10-23 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2023-10-22 at 16:03 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> My wife is just after her documents.  Sneaker net is an option.

Is there any reason you can't upload them to a cloud service (Google
Drive, Dropbox etc.), then download them on the target system?

poc
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