Re: Anacron question
On 7/18/24 00:12, Frederic Muller wrote: Hi! Following up on a old question of mine about daily backup tools I did follow the advice and am using borg successfully. So thank you for that: very easy to setup and works great. However wanting to do that daily automatically from my laptop to a local network drive I looked for a way to start the backup like 10 minutes after I switched on the PC and only once a day which led me to anacron. How about a systemd timer that is fired fired 10 minutes after boot. Its ExecStart could call a script that checks for a touched file ( a semaphore ). If the semaphore is not from today it would call the backup program. On successful completion it would refresh the semaphore. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: different behaviors for anaconda depending on iso files
On 7/10/24 10:48, François Patte wrote: Le 2024-07-10 18:26, Mike Wright a écrit : On 7/10/24 09:19, François Patte wrote: Le 2024-07-10 18:05, Mike Wright a écrit : On 7/10/24 08:33, François Patte wrote: Le 2024-07-10 15:12, Mike Wright a écrit : On 7/10/24 01:15, François Patte wrote: Bonjour, Bonjour, François, Now, if someone could tell me how to mount an lvm2_member, I will be happy! Indeed, my personnal data are on a disk from the f36 install which is a RAID1 member and an lvm2_member. If I try: mount /dev/sdd2 I get "unknown filesystem linux_raid_member" I can bypass this error typing mount /dev/md5 But the error is now: "unknown filesystem lvm2_member" and I don't know how to bypass this error. When a partition is added manually to a system by mounting the system needs a hint as to what to do. I think what you need here is to activate the LVM member: vgchange -y. If this is to be permanent you would need to use -ay. Little command, tons of options. Man vgchange. I read this on some posts on the internet... but if I do something like this will it change something on this partition making it unusable with the f36 install as the /home partition I want to keep this f36 install untill f40 will be completely configured (because I use it to work!) I do not think it modifies the partition in any way whatsoever. It just advises the o/s what to do with it. OK. I tried and nothing has changed... What can I do! Go Canes, in a reply to me, suggested pvscan|vgscan|lvscan. This is most likely the missing ingredient. Sorry I missed that. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: different behaviors for anaconda depending on iso files
On 7/10/24 09:19, François Patte wrote: Le 2024-07-10 18:05, Mike Wright a écrit : On 7/10/24 08:33, François Patte wrote: Le 2024-07-10 15:12, Mike Wright a écrit : On 7/10/24 01:15, François Patte wrote: Bonjour, Bonjour, François, Now, if someone could tell me how to mount an lvm2_member, I will be happy! Indeed, my personnal data are on a disk from the f36 install which is a RAID1 member and an lvm2_member. If I try: mount /dev/sdd2 I get "unknown filesystem linux_raid_member" I can bypass this error typing mount /dev/md5 But the error is now: "unknown filesystem lvm2_member" and I don't know how to bypass this error. When a partition is added manually to a system by mounting the system needs a hint as to what to do. I think what you need here is to activate the LVM member: vgchange -y. If this is to be permanent you would need to use -ay. Little command, tons of options. Man vgchange. I read this on some posts on the internet... but if I do something like this will it change something on this partition making it unusable with the f36 install as the /home partition I want to keep this f36 install untill f40 will be completely configured (because I use it to work!) I do not think it modifies the partition in any way whatsoever. It just advises the o/s what to do with it. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: different behaviors for anaconda depending on iso files
On 7/10/24 09:05, Mike Wright wrote: When a partition is added manually to a system by mounting the system needs a hint as to what to do. I think what you need here is to activate the LVM member: vgchange -y. If this is to be permanent you would need to use -ay. Little command, tons of options. Man vgchange. The manpage is confusing in this regard. It offers this: -a|--activate y|n|ay So, is that -a y and -a ay ? Dunno... -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: different behaviors for anaconda depending on iso files
On 7/10/24 08:33, François Patte wrote: Le 2024-07-10 15:12, Mike Wright a écrit : On 7/10/24 01:15, François Patte wrote: Bonjour, Bonjour, François, Now, if someone could tell me how to mount an lvm2_member, I will be happy! Indeed, my personnal data are on a disk from the f36 install which is a RAID1 member and an lvm2_member. If I try: mount /dev/sdd2 I get "unknown filesystem linux_raid_member" I can bypass this error typing mount /dev/md5 But the error is now: "unknown filesystem lvm2_member" and I don't know how to bypass this error. When a partition is added manually to a system by mounting the system needs a hint as to what to do. I think what you need here is to activate the LVM member: vgchange -y. If this is to be permanent you would need to use -ay. Little command, tons of options. Man vgchange. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: different behaviors for anaconda depending on iso files
On 7/10/24 01:15, François Patte wrote: Bonjour, Bonjour, François, Now, if someone could tell me how to mount an lvm2_member, I will be happy! Indeed, my personnal data are on a disk from the f36 install which is a RAID1 member and an lvm2_member. If I try: mount /dev/sdd2 I get "unknown filesystem linux_raid_member" I can bypass this error typing mount /dev/md5 But the error is now: "unknown filesystem lvm2_member" and I don't know how to bypass this error. There are several ways. I detest UUID so I prefer /dev/ entries. /dev/VG_Name/LV_Name or /dev/mapper/VG_Name-LV_Name Note that when you use mapper names slashes (/) are replaced by single hyhpen (-) and hyphens are replaced by double hyphens (--). Your persistence is admirable. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: issue with f40 installer [2]
On 7/6/24 00:37, François Patte wrote: Bonjour, On another post I complained that I couldn't install f40 due, I thought, to existing partitions on a disk... I tried to install on new disks without anything on them and used blivet-gui to define the partitions: I want RAID1 arrays, so I defined each of them asking for RAID1 on two disks and ext4 or luks file system. Here is the error message given when I press the Done button: https://www.bertuccio.homelinux.net/IMG_20240705_194641.jpg It is in French, I am sorry but I think that it understable The song is "device RAID cannot be of luks type, ext4 type... device RAID cannot be mounted on device /boot/efi,... partition EFI cannot be of type mdmember and so on... It is telling you that it wants a separate partition for /boot/efi and that separate partition cannot be part of a raid array. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: isues with f40 install
On 7/4/24 16:30, Mike Wright wrote: --> EFI EXPLAINED <-- I just found this collection of pages about EFI. If you learn all of this you will know more about EFI than all but a miniscule percentage of humanity. https://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/index.html -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: isues with f40 install
On 7/4/24 11:37, Tim via users wrote: If you install other OSs, they should do something similar. You'd have something like: ... EFI/debian ... EFI/fedora Which should keep all the OSs separate from each other. If you wanted dual booting different versions of Fedora, without one stomping on the others files, it might be worth naming the directories more uniquely. I'm not sure if there's any straightforward way to do that. e.g. ... EFI/fedora39 ... EFI/fedora40 At first I thought something similar but that the 36, 40, etc would be subdirs of fedora. Not so... After some (a lot) searching I found bits that help understand what is going on. The efi spec is not helpful in describing the EFI structure but is more about the byte/bit layout of the motherboard's NVRAM. /boot/efi/EFI contains vendor directories and one generic called boot. Names are case insensitive. I've seen MICROSOFT, fedora, Fedora, Debian, debian, DEBIAN, boot, BOOT, and so on. Within each of the vendor directories there are efi binaries, and a bootx64.csv which tersely describes what is there. E.g. here's one for debian: shimx64.efi,debian,,This is the boot entry for debian Lastly, there is a config file specific to what each vendor uses. Most of the linux distros use grub so for those you will find grub.cfg. Whenever a vendor's product is installed successfully the system runs the os-prober and rebuilds, in our case, the grub.cfg, with menuentries for each that it finds. That is how multiple version co-exist: not as entries in EFI but as entries in the appropriate config file. There are a couple of levels in the boot process. First one is the BIOS which offers different devices, then proceeds to the loader that handles the selected device, which then runs that loader. That is the one that offers e.g. fedora36, fedora40, etc. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: isues with f40 install
On 7/4/24 09:29, François Patte wrote: Le 2024-07-04 18:18, Mike Wright a écrit : On 7/4/24 09:09, François Patte wrote: Should I understand that if you have a windows installation on a disk with some (big) space left, you cannot install f40 as a dual boot system? (because anaconda is unable to ignore the windows partition) I *think* that there can be only one /boot/efi partition on a disk. So how can we proceed when you want a dual (fedora/fedora, fedora/debian, fedora.ubuntu) boot on the same disk? EFI is designed to allow multiple diverse operating systems to co-exist on a drive. When you install an O/S the installer *somehow* makes an entry into the motherboard's NVRAM (non-volatile memory) which the BIOS uses to offer a boot selection. I *believe* that the nvram contains a pointer into the EFI table (list of folders) indicating which one to use for the boot. Caution: if you're going to multiboot don't set your BIOS to "fast" or "ultra-fast" boot or it will be difficult to impossible to interrupt the BIOS (F12, DELETE, whichever magic key that takes you to the BIOS) to make an O/S selection. It's probably a good idea to create the new partition manually *before* running anaconda. Then you can select it for the install location. Anaconda knows about EFI so it should be smart enough to create a unique entry in the mobo's nvram and create the /boot/efi/EFI entry automagically.. That's all to the best of my knowledge because I don't usually have multiple O/S's on my systems. Bonne chance -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: isues with f40 install
On 7/4/24 09:09, François Patte wrote: Should I understand that if you have a windows installation on a disk with some (big) space left, you cannot install f40 as a dual boot system? (because anaconda is unable to ignore the windows partition) I *think* that there can be only one /boot/efi partition on a disk. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Local, system e-mails only delivered on reboot
On 7/3/24 07:21, Tom Horsley wrote: ...sendmail is utterly cryptic, I still have nightmares about the Bat book. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Hypothetical boot question
On 7/2/24 07:44, Frank Bures wrote: Hi, I was wondering if it was possible to boot the existing F40 installation from a USB. I tried to research this but everything I was able to find dealt with booting a live image of F40 from USB and/or installing a live image of F40 on a USB. What I want is to create a USB stick with /boot and /boot/efi fs in such a way that it boots an existing F40 installation on a HD. I am not talking about rescuing the system from a live Fedora USB. I am talking about a fully automatic boot of an existing installed Fedora from a USB. Is it possible and what would it involve? I found this article; it is 8 years old and mostly covers MBR boot but there is one efi boot example. https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/252936/grub2-boot-to-a-second-another-hard-disk -- This one looks interesting. Harddrives are hdX starting at 0. Add a menuentry to your usb grub.cfg menuentry "Boot from second disk" { chainloader (hd1)+1 } but changed to this: menuentry "Boot from first harddisk" { chainloader (hd0)+1 } Give it a try and see what happens. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Hypothetical boot question
On 7/2/24 07:44, Frank Bures wrote: Hi, I was wondering if it was possible to boot the existing F40 installation from a USB. I tried to research this but everything I was able to find dealt with booting a live image of F40 from USB and/or installing a live image of F40 on a USB. What I want is to create a USB stick with /boot and /boot/efi fs in such a way that it boots an existing F40 installation on a HD. I am not talking about rescuing the system from a live Fedora USB. I am talking about a fully automatic boot of an existing installed Fedora from a USB. Is it possible and what would it involve? Check out ventoy. It boots to a menu containing links to ISOs. Make a selection and it boots into that ISO. Great way to explore different distros. It has 2 partitions: part1 is all of the usb minus 32MB and contains your ISOs part2 is 32MB and contains all the boot stuff and boots many o/s's here is part2's layout ( I've skipped listing the .mod files ) └── EFI └── BOOT ├── BOOTAA64.EFI ├── BOOTIA32.EFI ├── BOOTMIPS.EFI ├── BOOTX64.EFI ├── grub.efi ├── grubia32.efi ├── grubia32_real.efi ├── grubx64_real.efi ├── mmia32.efi └── MokManager.efi └── grub ├── arm64-efi ├── checksum.cfg ├── debug.cfg ├── distro ├── fonts ├── grub.cfg ├── help.tar.gz ├── hwinfo.cfg ├── i386-efi ├── i386-pc ├── keyboard.cfg ├── localboot.cfg ├── menulang.cfg ├── menu.tar.gz ├── mips64el-efi ├── power.cfg ├── themes └── x86_64-efi -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: password issue with f40
On 6/21/24 07:44, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Fri, 21 Jun 2024, Michael Hennebry wrote: Possibly related: totem does not play movies. totem complains that it cannot initialize openGL support. I can't dissect a .rpm but I know how to dissect a .deb so I installed totem onto Ubuntu 24.04 (latest release) so I could take it apart. There was no need for anything that drastic... Running totem I got the same results you are seeing: An error occurred Could not initialize OpenGL support Methinks it is not a problem with your setup. Browsers and VLC all play videos just fine... -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Fedora F40 Won't Power Off
On 6/18/24 01:03, Stephen Morris wrote: On 18/6/24 09:23, Mike Wright wrote: On 6/17/24 15:28, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi, I haven't done a restart yet to see if that rectifies the issue. Have you tried executing "systemctl poweroff"? Thanks Mike, I haven't tried that yet nor have I tried Shutdown --now either. I just wasn't expecting to have to, selecting shutdown from the KDE Throbber should be enough the shut the machine down, which is the normal state of affairs. The nice thing about using systemctl poweroff is you get the reverse of the "non-quiet" boot sequence: everything is printed to the screen as it's shutting down. If something causes it to pause you'll be able to see what it is. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Fedora F40 Won't Power Off
On 6/17/24 15:28, Stephen Morris wrote: Hi, Ever since a couple of updates ago, from KDE, when I select "Shutdown" KDE displays a black screen (it used to be that you could press the escape key and it would show you the apps that were closing down so you could see which apps were causing shutdown/reboot lag, but that doesn't seem to be working at the moment) but never physically powers off the pc, even if I leave it running all day/all night. Has anyone else seen this issue or know what I can look for to identify why? I have just put on an update that has installed kernel 6.9.4, I haven't done a restart yet to see if that rectifies the issue. Have you tried executing "systemctl poweroff"? -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: number of lines on console
On 6/6/24 09:00, Greg Woods wrote: on a standard 1920x1080 HD monitor in this case). If the boot hangs, then of course the last few messages are the crucial ones to see. Once the machine is booted, of course, then I can log in and use tools such as "stty" to set the number of rows and cure this problem, but I need something that will take effect during system startup before the login prompt comes up. These values will be used during boot but they don't kick in until about half way through. You include it by adding it to /etc/default/grub and running grub-mkconfig -o /wherever/your/grub.cfg/is. GRUB_GFXMODE=1920x1080 -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Please stop hijacking /etc/resolv.conf
On 5/30/24 13:18, Todd Zullinger wrote: Kevin Fenzi wrote: [...snip loads of useful information...] So, I think if you: disable systemd-resolved sudo bash -c 'mkdir -p /etc/systemd/system-preset && echo "disable systemd-resolved.service" >/etc/systemd/system-preset/20-systemd-resolved-disable.preset' Here's one that doesn't eat yet another inode ( and saves some typing ) for f in disable stop mask; do sudo systemctl $f systemd-resolved; done -- I just wasted at least a week with systemd-networkd trying to configure half a dozen or so bridges, their members, some regular ports, and a mix of static and dynamic addresses. It required dozens of .link, .network, .netdev files, each about 50 to 100 bytes, and each consuming a 4k inode. If systemd had a theme song it would be Queen's "Another One Bytes the Dust". Back when 2μS SRAM came in 1kx1 dips at $2 each and a few hundred megabytes would consume an entire fab line's output for who knows how long we would make fun of the programmers, "give them a byte and they'll take a k." In the end I spent a few hours writing a script to bring everything up, down, show status, list options and call it from a miniscule systemd service that runs after network-online. And it only ate two inodes. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: 2 installations on the same PC - Add partition in Ftab
On 5/28/24 21:24, soles.g wrote: El 23/5/24 a las 21:28, Mike Wright escribió: porque desde la terminal no me deja de ninguna manera: because from the terminal it won't let me in any way: soles_40@garibaldina-40:~$ sudo mount -n /dev/sda7 /run/media/soles_40/desde_fedora_37 mount: /run/media/soles_40/desde_fedora_37: mount point does not exist. El punto de montar no existe. Créalo: mkdir -p /run/media/soles_40/desde_fedora_37 Repite la comanda original: sudo mount -n /dev/sda7 /run/media/soles_40/desde_fedora_37 Debe hace lo que quieras. -- The mount point doesn't exist. Create it: mkdir -p /run/media/soles_40/desde_fedora_37 Repeat the original command: sudo mount -n /dev/sda7 /run/media/soles_40/desde_fedora_37 That should do what you want. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: 2 installations on the same PC - Add partition in Ftab
On 5/23/24 15:43, soles.g wrote: El 23/5/24 a las 18:28, Patrick O'Callaghan escribió: On Thu, 2024-05-23 at 13:00 -0300, soles.g wrote: ¡Hola...! :-) ¿Escribo aquí en castellano...? ;-) [Should I write here in Spanish?] La lista realmente es para usarse en inglés y no quiero asumir la función de traductor general, pero por esta vez estoy dispuesto a actuar como intermediario. Manda la pregunta por la lista. The list is really meant to be used in English and I don´t want to take on the role of all-purpose translator, but just this once I can act as intermediary if you want to post the question here. Thank you so much...! :-) So the two things I need help with: the first I did two installations of Fedora40 on the same hard drive. I didn't know how to do it so you don't have to create in each of the facilities the directory? /efi. ├─sda1 vfat FAT16 EFI 0B9B-8F19 ├─sda8 vfat FAT32 boot 0566-61F4 /dev/sda8: LABEL_FATBOOT="boot" LABEL="boot" UUID="0533-61F4" BLOCK_SIZE="512" TYPE="vfat" PARTLABEL=" EFI System Partition" PARTUUID="916a4cb1-8f50-42c7-92be-dc53d80a4bdb" So when the machine starts up it tells me something about two 'journal'... I don't know what... I wish I could fix it just to have it done well (if it could...) The other thing I don't understand It's what I have to write in the fstab to tell you that when you start... Also start a partition: /sda7... which is not /home... If you could tell me that I have to write with the mount command to mount it manually from the terminal... I would like it more... :-) Well... I'm going to ask san google translate to translate this to save you work... do you think...? ¡Muchas gracias...! :-) Entonces las dos cosicas con las que necesito ayuda: la primera es que hice dos instalaciones de Fedora40 en el mismo disco duro. No supe como hacer para no tener que crear en cada una de las instalaciones el ¿directorio? /efi. ├─sda1 vfat FAT16 EFI 0B9B-8F19 ├─sda8 vfat FAT32 boot 0566-61F4 /dev/sda8: LABEL_FATBOOT="boot" LABEL="boot" UUID="0533-61F4" BLOCK_SIZE="512" TYPE="vfat" PARTLABEL=" EFI System Partition" PARTUUID="916a4cb1-8f50-42c7-92be-dc53d80a4bdb" Asi que al iniciarse la máquina me dice algo de dos 'journal'... no se que... Me gustaría poder arreglarlo sólo por tenerlo bien hecho (si se pudiera...) La otra cosa con la que no me aclaro es con lo que tengo que escribir en el fstab para decirle que al iniciarse... inicie tambien una partición: la /sda7... que no es /home... La manera mas fácil y directo (sin usar el UUID) /dev/sda7 /ruta/al/punto/de/montar ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 2 tipo del sistema del fichero -^ Si pudieras decirme que tengo que escribir con el comando mount para montarla manualmente desde la terminal... me gustaría mas... :-) A mano... mount /dev/sda7 /ruta/al/punto/de/montar Bueno... le voy a pedir a san google traslate que traduzca esto para ahorrarte trabajo... ¿te parece...? -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: getting out of bridge mode
On 5/21/24 23:48, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Tue, 21 May 2024, Samuel Sieb wrote: You probably need your ISP to do that. Once it's in bridge mode, it's basically invisible. Whatever device is connected to it has a direct internet connection now. You might be able to access it if you can figure out the IP address. Do you remember what its IP address was before it went to bridge mode? If so, you can try setting the attached device to a static IP address in the same range and try to connect. 192.168.0.1 gets me to the router login page. I just cannot login any more. I have logged in before. My expectation is that I can get it out of bridge mode if I can login. The attached device is a Midco-supplied Tivo. I think I could get it to tell me its IP address, but I suspect it wouldn't matter, as I am not trying to connect my PC to the Tivo. Also the cable from my office to the Tivo in the living room would be a major tripping hazard. How do I figure out why I cannot login? Do you have access to the internet through the router? You've said you can ping but I've had situations where ping works but networking doesn't. I don't know how much you know about bridge mode but here's a quick explanation. What was previously your gateway address now becomes your wan's IP address (probably your first enpXXs0 or eth0). Your router's gateway address is now your gateway address. Your lan, probably a 192 something is not routable, so it's floating out there between your machine's new IP address and the gateway. Getting yourself setup as the customer end of the network might make the router happy enough to get you into it. Now I don't see how that affects your inability to login to the router but I do know when things get out of whack it can have mysterious side effects such as icmp works but tcp and udp don't. Once you reach a point where you can login getting out of bridge mode is just a couple of clicks. Does the Arris have any sort of *hard* reset? If so you may have luck reconfiguring the router yourself. It should default to NOT having passthru (bridge mode). Again, I'm not familiar with the Arris but many of these things have the default password on the device label. Verrry high security, that ;/ If all fails your provider can access the router from their end. How they do so is another mystery in itself. Good luck! -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: My Fedora 40 experiences
On 5/18/24 01:10, John Pilkington wrote: On 18/05/2024 03:17, Stephen Morris wrote: On 17/5/24 22:43, John Pilkington wrote: On 17/05/2024 13:08, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: Hi. On Thu, 16 May 2024 23:04:21 +1000 Stephen Morris wrote: On 16/5/24 21:33, George N. White III wrote: Many users have had problems with the akmod-nvida install. For 470xx the module failed to compile. For newer cards, users sometimes end up with unsigned drivers. This usually means they rebooted too quickly (during the window after the module was compiled but before it was signed.). Or before the depmod done by the postintall of the kmod-nvidia-KERNEL RPM finishes. I have had the reboot happen too too quickly before but in this case I had no control over the reboot process, it happened automatically when the installs were completed. Right: more precisely as soon as dnf system-upgrade finishes. As said earlier on this list: I made a proposal to prevent that: kmod failed to load after upgrade Fedora using dnf system-upgrade https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011120 still waiting for approval. This morning 'dnf upgrade' on one of my boxes installed the 470.239.06-2 versions of akmod and kmod, while the other box, having the -1 nersions, said there was 'nothing to do'; then packagekit found them and did a preliminary reboot before install. Both boxes now have the -2 versions installed and running. The process does take several minutes - and I did an "akmods --rebuild --force" just to make sure. F40 with plasma-workspace-x11 does seem to be working well now for me, and can use vdpau. How did you get Xorg working with Plasma as I can't see any group in dnf to install that? The path to where I am now has been complicated, mainly because my nvidia hardware is 'legacy' and its 470xx driver has not claimed to support Wayland. Under Wayland all cpus max out, and keyboard/mouse are almost unusable. YMMV. dnf info plasma-workspace-x11 It's in the Fedora 'updates' repo. The other thing I didn't like with the F40 upgrade was in F39 I had dnf configured to retain 5 kernels, but the F40 upgrade reset that back to 3. My system has 450 MB /boot, space for only 2 kernels + rescue. For the first time ever I had a need for the "rescue" kernel. Using that grub entry brought up a system that required a root login. I have not had a root password on any distro since I can't recall. Oh, I remember, edit the command line and put it in runlevel 1. hahahaha! Grampa, what's a runlevel? I ended up booting off of a USB (ventoy is awesome!) to bring up some distro, mounted the borken system, did my magic, rebooted and was back in business. Point being: what good is a rescue kernel when the canoe has no oars? If you need space get rid of the rescue kernel. IMHO -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: postfix fails to start on boot
On 5/16/24 18:40, Alex wrote: Hi, I have a fedora38 server with postfix-3.7.9 (although this problem has existed for a long time) that fails to start because I believe the server has multiple interfaces. ifconfig shows just the primary ethernet interface, but "ip addr" shows the rest. There are five total interfaces in this multi-instance postfix config. Here are the related boot messages from journalctl -xb0: postfix[1360]: egrep: warning: egrep is obsolescent; using grep -E postfix[1371]: fatal: parameter inet_interfaces: no local interface found for 130.250.NNN.197 postfix[1374]: fatal: parameter inet_interfaces: no local interface found for 130.250.NNN.198 postfix[1375]: fatal: parameter inet_interfaces: no local interface found for 130.250.NNN.199 postfix[1376]: fatal: parameter inet_interfaces: no local interface found for 130.250.NNN.200 postfix[1379]: fatal: parameter inet_interfaces: no local interface found for 130.250.NNN.201 Each of the IPs correspond to a different postfix instance. After the system boots, I can start postfix successfully with just "service postfix start". Since it has systemd as an option and the postfix service should know to wait for networking, why not use that to run it? systemctl unmask postfix systemctl enable postfix systemctl start postfix After that it should start automatically on boot. Is it perhaps trying to start before networking is available? This would be odd because the problem has persisted for quite a while, and I would have thought something like that would have been fixed long ago. Perhaps related to the difference between ifconfig and ip? Where is the egrep coming from? I don't see it in the systemd file: # ls -l /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/postfix.service lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 Jan 24 2023 /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/postfix.service -> /usr/lib/systemd/system/postfix.service -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How to list Apache (httpd) virtual servers
On 5/12/24 14:56, Ian Pilcher wrote: I am trying to list the virtual servers in my Apache httpd configuration on Fedora 38. My internet searches keep turning up references to using either apachectl or apache2ctl with the -S option, but neither one seems to work on Fedora. # apachectl -S apachectl: The "-S" option is not supported. # dnf provides '*/apache2ctl' Last metadata expiration check: 3:35:44 ago on Sun 12 May 2024 01:13:05 PM CDT. bash-completion-1:2.11-9.fc38.noarch : Programmable completion for Bash Repo : fedora Matched from: Filename : /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/apache2ctl So how is one supposed to do this on Fedora? Not specific to Fedora but the apache2 method is apache2ctl -t -D DUMP_VHOSTS -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Live USB extra space
On 4/27/24 21:21, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I "Finally" have a customer interested in Fedora. I talked him into letting me spin a Live USB flash drive for him to play with before we jump ahead. Question: Is there a way to use the extra space on the drive to install a few more programs for him to experiment with? https://www.baeldung.com/linux/easy2boot-live-usb-persistence -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: [correction] The best way to still use Fedora + Xorg + Gnome ... even after version 40
On 4/17/24 17:37, Mike Wright wrote: From what I read X11 suffered from mission creep and a lot of features that should have been in the windowmanagers ended up in X11 and will never be in Wayland. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: The best way to still use Fedora + Xorg + Gnome ... even after version 40
On 4/17/24 12:30, Go Canes wrote: On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 1:48 PM John Mellor wrote: With X being a completely unmaintainable mess, all new and bugfix development stopped about 2 years ago. Most disturbing is that for the last 2 years there have been essentially no security fixes as a result. I have heard that there have been no security fixes, and also that there have. I understand that there is little to no "development" in the X11 space, but as a mature product it doesn't need development so much as a proper "X12". Some of the original X developers started Wayland as X reimagined 45 year later for the 21st century needs. This was a "good idea". Agreed. From what I read X11 suffered from mission creep and a lot of features that should have been in the compositors ended up in X11 and will never be in Wayland. That means some features will disappear until re-engineered by the different teams and only if they decide it's worth their effort. One feature I make heavy use of is the ability to "shade" or roll windows up/down into/from the title bar. A plasma6 guy said that if shading is not in Wayland then it's probably kaput because he doesn't see anybody with the knowledge and willingness to implement it. I have no idea what else will be lost but it is those features that may take years to reappear, if ever. Hope I'm still here then, hahaha. :m -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: systemd-networkd-wait-online times out
On 4/11/24 15:08, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 6:01 PM Sam Varshavchik wrote: Tim via users writes: "The service systemd-networkd-wait-online.service invokes systemd- networkd-wait-online without any options. Thus, it waits for all managed interfaces to be configured or failed, and for at least one to be online." Could it be that you have some additional interfaces configured, or half-configured, that it thinks it has to wait for? I have two network interfaces. Both of them fully come up. This system predates the introduction of systemd-networkd. It uses NetworkManager, which shows both interfaces as fully up: # nmcli conn show NAME UUID TYPE DEVICE wan0 71e6ac4b-c693-4c20-aa0d-e1a63b7373fe ethernet eno2 lan0 d1a1ee90-f006-43bb-9cbf-175ad32f6565 ethernet eno1 lo65db7135-f18c-4598-b5ad-61a1475f41ee loopback lo Another thing that springs to mind, is do you have IPv6? And if not, is it waiting for it in vain? Both of these are IPv4 only. Both of these have static IP address assignments. There are no non-default IPv6 addresses on either of them. They do have the stock link-local IPv6 address that all interfaces get. That's it. There is no reason, whatsoever, why these network interfaces would not come up immediately. They do. I ssh into the box on one of these immediately after boot, and the Intertubes are there. "dnf remove systemd-networkd" says that it can be removed by itself, and it has no other dependencies. I have no idea how it got installed. This system's original install predated even NetworkManager's existence. Some dependency must've pulled in systemd-networkd at some point. Another data point is that the systemd-networkd main service is disabled. The real problem is that systemd-networkd-wait-online was enabled. I have no recollection of enabling it, I was completely unaware of it, until I noticed this breakage. DIsabled means the service can be manually started. You should mask the service if you don't want it to start automatically or manually. Because I prefer systemd-networkd for my management system I shutdown NetworkManager: disabled, stopped, masked, and all of a sudden my networks disappeared. Iit's bck! Reason is because .socket files will activate their corresponding service files REGARDLESS of masking or disabling. You have to check for sockets, too, and shut those down. So, it looks to me like the main issue is systemd-networkd-wait-online, and only systemd-networkd-wait-online was erroneously enabled, and – and this is the guesswork part – the systemd-verse had no network interfaces defined (all the network interfaces are managed by NetworkManager) and systemd- networkd-wait-online will, apparently, hang until it times out, waiting for network interfaces to come up, but none will ever come up because none have been configured. Jeff -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: [OT] plasma6
On 4/3/24 22:52, Barry wrote: On 3 Apr 2024, at 23:13, Mike Wright wrote: If anybody is curious about KDE's new Plasma6 on Wayland you can install Fedora-KDE-Live from rawhide to get a sneak-peak at Fedora 41. Spoiler alert: it's nice. It is already part of fedora 40. What is it that the rawhide builds providing that is not in f40? Thanks for the heads up. KDE isn't part of my bailiwick but a developer waxing enthusiastic convinced me to check it out. I guess it has undergone a decade long upgrade and the change to QT6 required some major rewrites. Possibility of another environment than X11/Gnome was also a factor so I decided to try the Kool Aid. I've been looking for *any* distro that had picked it up already. It hasn't gained much traction from what I could find. I had no idea that fedora had quietly adopted it and it was sitting there under my nose. :/ -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
[OT] plasma6
Hey all, If anybody is curious about KDE's new Plasma6 on Wayland you can install Fedora-KDE-Live from rawhide to get a sneak-peak at Fedora 41. Spoiler alert: it's nice. https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/rawhide/Spins/x86_64/iso/Fedora-KDE-Live-x86_64-Rawhide-20240403.n.0.iso :m -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Failed to start jobs message from today's F39 update
On 3/13/24 10:10, Neal Becker wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 2:50 PM Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/12/2024 12:33 PM, Neal Becker wrote: Failed to start jobs: Failed to enqueue some jobs, see logs for details: Invalid argument Should I worry? I don't even know what armadillo is. Did you look at the logs and if not, why not? Checking Wikipedia, armadillo is a C++ library for linear algebra. I didn't search, because I don't know an easy way to do it. Back when syslog was text it was easy. Let's try: journalctl -g 'Failed to start jobs:' -g --grep I couldn't find any way to pass grep options to -g but grep itself has -A and -B for showing "n" number of lines After or Before the matched context. The journalctl manpage has an option -n --lines that combined with -g MAY do something like that but I haven't tried it yet. ... Mar 13 07:17:37 nbecker0 packagekitd[723125]: Failed to start jobs: Failed to enqueue some jobs, see logs for details: Invalid argument OK, that still tells me nothing. I need to see the lines before this, and maybe after. Any ideas? -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Configuring LXC containers
On 3/13/24 04:45, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2024-03-12 at 15:36 -0700, Mike Wright wrote: On 3/11/24 14:41, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2024-03-10 at 16:39 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I'd like to play with LXC but I find the docs not very newbie- friendly. I'm trying to follow a guide at: https://brandonrozek.com/blog/lxc-fedora-38/ (basically because it mentions Fedora). I followed the steps closely and rebooted, but I get the following error: $ systemd-run --unit=my-unit --user --scope -p "Delegate=yes" -- lxc-start test Running scope as unit: my-unit.scope lxc-start: test: lxccontainer.c: wait_on_daemonized_start: 877 Received container state "ABORTING" instead of "RUNNING" lxc-start: test: tools/lxc_start.c: main: 306 The container failed to start lxc-start: test: tools/lxc_start.c: main: 309 To get more details, run the container in foreground mode lxc-start: test: tools/lxc_start.c: main: 311 Additional information can be obtained by setting the --logfile and -- logpriority options Any insights would be welcome. (Just in case, I tried running with SElinux turned off, but it made no difference.) One thing: on running lxc-checkconfig I get: ... Cgroup v1 systemd controller: missing Cgroup v1 freezer controller: missing Cgroup ns_cgroup: required ... (everything else is OK). The first two are irrelevant. It uses cgroup2 now. 3rd one I don't understand. How is your test container working? It isn't. I still get the same errors on startup. I've been playing along over here and now have a container that reports "UNPRIVILEGED true" using lxc-ls -f. It starts and runs but is unusable. lxc-start -n C1 -F shows the bootup sequence and it is full of [FAILED] sections. root can't even change to /root: permission denied. Almost everything is owned by 65534:65534. If I manually set an IP and default route I have networking and it uses my DNS container successfully. I found this: https://brandonrozek.com/blog/lxc-fedora-38/ "Setting up unprivileged containers with LXC on Fedora 38" and how to use systemd to start and stop the containers. It works but doesn't solve the other problems I'm seeing. Yes, I'd found that page a couple of days ago and tried following it. Same problems as before. I'm thinking this isn't worth the hassle. I reached the same conclusion wrt unprivileged containers. Nonetheless, I'm still very happy using privileged containers. They're up in a second, none have ever crashed or become unstable. I find them ideal for isolating individual services on my network and for conducting quick experiments. My main interest in lxc was to run a small containerised VPN, but Fedora seems to have much better support for docker (via podman) so I'll probably concentrate on that. Good luck! -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Configuring LXC containers
On 3/11/24 14:41, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2024-03-10 at 16:39 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I'd like to play with LXC but I find the docs not very newbie- friendly. I'm trying to follow a guide at: https://brandonrozek.com/blog/lxc-fedora-38/ (basically because it mentions Fedora). I followed the steps closely and rebooted, but I get the following error: $ systemd-run --unit=my-unit --user --scope -p "Delegate=yes" -- lxc-start test Running scope as unit: my-unit.scope lxc-start: test: lxccontainer.c: wait_on_daemonized_start: 877 Received container state "ABORTING" instead of "RUNNING" lxc-start: test: tools/lxc_start.c: main: 306 The container failed to start lxc-start: test: tools/lxc_start.c: main: 309 To get more details, run the container in foreground mode lxc-start: test: tools/lxc_start.c: main: 311 Additional information can be obtained by setting the --logfile and -- logpriority options Any insights would be welcome. (Just in case, I tried running with SElinux turned off, but it made no difference.) One thing: on running lxc-checkconfig I get: ... Cgroup v1 systemd controller: missing Cgroup v1 freezer controller: missing Cgroup ns_cgroup: required ... (everything else is OK). The first two are irrelevant. It uses cgroup2 now. 3rd one I don't understand. How is your test container working? I've been playing along over here and now have a container that reports "UNPRIVILEGED true" using lxc-ls -f. It starts and runs but is unusable. lxc-start -n C1 -F shows the bootup sequence and it is full of [FAILED] sections. root can't even change to /root: permission denied. Almost everything is owned by 65534:65534. If I manually set an IP and default route I have networking and it uses my DNS container successfully. I found this: https://brandonrozek.com/blog/lxc-fedora-38/ "Setting up unprivileged containers with LXC on Fedora 38" and how to use systemd to start and stop the containers. It works but doesn't solve the other problems I'm seeing. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Configuring LXC containers
On 3/11/24 14:41, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2024-03-10 at 16:39 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I'd like to play with LXC but I find the docs not very newbie- friendly. I'm trying to follow a guide at: https://brandonrozek.com/blog/lxc-fedora-38/ (basically because it mentions Fedora). I followed the steps closely and rebooted, but I get the following error: $ systemd-run --unit=my-unit --user --scope -p "Delegate=yes" -- lxc-start test Running scope as unit: my-unit.scope lxc-start: test: lxccontainer.c: wait_on_daemonized_start: 877 Received container state "ABORTING" instead of "RUNNING" lxc-start: test: tools/lxc_start.c: main: 306 The container failed to start lxc-start: test: tools/lxc_start.c: main: 309 To get more details, run the container in foreground mode lxc-start: test: tools/lxc_start.c: main: 311 Additional information can be obtained by setting the --logfile and -- logpriority options Any insights would be welcome. (Just in case, I tried running with SElinux turned off, but it made no difference.) One thing: on running lxc-checkconfig I get: ... Cgroup v1 systemd controller: missing Cgroup v1 freezer controller: missing Cgroup ns_cgroup: required I get the same results over here. The first two are irrelevant since current systems are using v2. I don't know if ns_required is a WARN or ERROR or a threat :) -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Configuring LXC containers
On 3/11/24 14:38, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2024-03-11 at 09:16 -0700, Mike Wright wrote: >> On 3/11/24 08:41, Mike Wright wrote: >>> On 3/11/24 04:33, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>>> On Sun, 2024-03-10 at 22:56 -0700, Mike Wright wrote: >>>>> On 3/10/24 15:40, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >>>>>> On Sun, 2024-03-10 at 11:13 -0700, Mike Wright wrote: >>>>>>> The last two lines are key. Add these flags: -F -o >>>>>>> logfile. The >>>>>>> default loglevel is ERROR. If you want more detail include >>>>>>> -l >>>>>>> LEVEL. >>>>>>> >> >>>> AFAIK 'apparmor' is a Ubuntu-ism. Both my system and the system >>>> in the >>>> container are Fedora 39. >> >>> That one puzzles me, too. However, there is no corresponding >>> lxc.selinux setting. lxc was a canonical/ubuntu creation so my >>> first >>> reaction was the same as yours but from some of the comments I've >>> read >>> on https://discuss.linuxcontainers.org ( another forum with *lots* >>> of >>> empty space ) that it or something like it may have been integrated >>> into >>> lxc. >> >> CORRECTION: the above paragraph is wrong. >> >> A much easier to read manpage: >> >> https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/en/man5/lxc.container.conf.5.html >> > > This appears to the manpage at lxc-container.conf(5). Yes, sans-serif is easier for me to read. White BG (although I prefer dark theme) is also a lot better for me than white on black manpages. > >> § SELINUX CONTEXT >> >> lxc.selinux.context >> >> Specify the SELinux context under which the container should be run >> or >> unconfined_t. For example >> >> lxc.selinux.context = system_u:system_r:lxc_t:s0:c22 >> > > I added that to the config file. It made no difference. Try this ( works with lxc.apparmor.context ). lxc.selinux.context = generated ...and also ~/.local/lxc/default.conf with these contents: lxc.include = /etc/lxc/default.conf lxc.idmap = u 0 10 65536 lxc.idmap = g 0 10 65536 That way the lxc.idmap lines are not required in each config. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Configuring LXC containers
On 3/11/24 08:41, Mike Wright wrote: On 3/11/24 04:33, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2024-03-10 at 22:56 -0700, Mike Wright wrote: On 3/10/24 15:40, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2024-03-10 at 11:13 -0700, Mike Wright wrote: The last two lines are key. Add these flags: -F -o logfile. The default loglevel is ERROR. If you want more detail include -l LEVEL. AFAIK 'apparmor' is a Ubuntu-ism. Both my system and the system in the container are Fedora 39. That one puzzles me, too. However, there is no corresponding lxc.selinux setting. lxc was a canonical/ubuntu creation so my first reaction was the same as yours but from some of the comments I've read on https://discuss.linuxcontainers.org ( another forum with *lots* of empty space ) that it or something like it may have been integrated into lxc. CORRECTION: the above paragraph is wrong. A much easier to read manpage: https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/en/man5/lxc.container.conf.5.html § SELINUX CONTEXT lxc.selinux.context Specify the SELinux context under which the container should be run or unconfined_t. For example lxc.selinux.context = system_u:system_r:lxc_t:s0:c22 -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Configuring LXC containers
On 3/11/24 04:33, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2024-03-10 at 22:56 -0700, Mike Wright wrote: On 3/10/24 15:40, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2024-03-10 at 11:13 -0700, Mike Wright wrote: The last two lines are key. Add these flags: -F -o logfile. The default loglevel is ERROR. If you want more detail include -l LEVEL. e.g. lxc-start -n containerName -F -o containerName.log -l WARN This is what I get: $ lxc-start -n test -F -o test.log -l WARN $ cat test.log lxc-start test 20240310223702.913 ERROR cgfsng - cgroups/cgfsng.c:__cgfsng_delegate_controllers:2921 - Device or resource busy - Could not enable "+cpu +io +memory +pids" controllers in the unified cgroup 9 lxc-start test 20240310223702.934 ERROR cgfsng - cgroups/cgfsng.c:__cgfsng_delegate_controllers:2921 - Device or resource busy - Could not enable "+cpu +io +memory +pids" controllers in the unified cgroup 9 I use this: lxc.apparmor.profile=unconfined which runs the container as root. That setting doesn't stop you from adding profiles. AFAIK 'apparmor' is a Ubuntu-ism. Both my system and the system in the container are Fedora 39. That one puzzles me, too. However, there is no corresponding lxc.selinux setting. lxc was a canonical/ubuntu creation so my first reaction was the same as yours but from some of the comments I've read on https://discuss.linuxcontainers.org ( another forum with *lots* of empty space ) that it or something like it may have been integrated into lxc. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Configuring LXC containers
On 3/10/24 15:40, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2024-03-10 at 11:13 -0700, Mike Wright wrote: The last two lines are key. Add these flags: -F -o logfile. The default loglevel is ERROR. If you want more detail include -l LEVEL. e.g. lxc-start -n containerName -F -o containerName.log -l WARN This is what I get: $ lxc-start -n test -F -o test.log -l WARN $ cat test.log lxc-start test 20240310223702.913 ERRORcgfsng - cgroups/cgfsng.c:__cgfsng_delegate_controllers:2921 - Device or resource busy - Could not enable "+cpu +io +memory +pids" controllers in the unified cgroup 9 lxc-start test 20240310223702.934 ERRORcgfsng - cgroups/cgfsng.c:__cgfsng_delegate_controllers:2921 - Device or resource busy - Could not enable "+cpu +io +memory +pids" controllers in the unified cgroup 9 I use this: lxc.apparmor.profile=unconfined which runs the container as root. That setting doesn't stop you from adding profiles. If I disable that line I get a cgfsng WARN and the container won't start. ( My containers are used for local services so I'm pretty lax about running them as root. They are also heavily firewalled behind a router (also a container which starts the firewall then puts an IP on the WAN and sets the default route. Until the router container comes up my host has no network connectivity at all) ) Also, you're remapping IDs. What happens if you comment those out? My thought here is to get it running as root first then begin the process of securing it as you see fit. I don't have this in my configs but I found this: lxc.cgroup.devices.allow=a -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Configuring LXC containers
On 3/10/24 15:40, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2024-03-10 at 11:13 -0700, Mike Wright wrote: The last two lines are key. Add these flags: -F -o logfile. The default loglevel is ERROR. If you want more detail include -l LEVEL. e.g. lxc-start -n containerName -F -o containerName.log -l WARN This is what I get: $ lxc-start -n test -F -o test.log -l WARN ... lxc-start test 20240310223702.945 ERRORstart - start.c:print_top_failing_dir:99 - Permission denied - Could not access /home/poc/.local. Please grant it x access, or add an ACL for the container root This one looks interesting -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Configuring LXC containers
On 3/10/24 09:39, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I'd like to play with LXC but I find the docs not very newbie-friendly. I'm trying to follow a guide at: https://brandonrozek.com/blog/lxc-fedora-38/ (basically because it mentions Fedora). I followed the steps closely and rebooted, but I get the following error: $ systemd-run --unit=my-unit --user --scope -p "Delegate=yes" -- lxc-start test Running scope as unit: my-unit.scope lxc-start: test: lxccontainer.c: wait_on_daemonized_start: 877 Received container state "ABORTING" instead of "RUNNING" lxc-start: test: tools/lxc_start.c: main: 306 The container failed to start lxc-start: test: tools/lxc_start.c: main: 309 To get more details, run the container in foreground mode lxc-start: test: tools/lxc_start.c: main: 311 Additional information can be obtained by setting the --logfile and --logpriority options Any insights would be welcome. (Just in case, I tried running with SElinux turned off, but it made no difference.) I use lxc all the time. The last two lines are key. Add these flags: -F -o logfile. The default loglevel is ERROR. If you want more detail include -l LEVEL. e.g. lxc-start -n containerName -F -o containerName.log -l WARN My experience has been that there is a disconnect between the container and the host's bridge usually caused by misconfigured network options in the config file or perhaps the default bridge is not up. Here's a section from my Archlinux config. This particular bridge is named WWW. The veth.pair isn't necessary but it puts a name on the interface and makes it easier to identify with "ip link list (ip l l )". The generated names, eth-VLXWORL eg. aren't helpful at all. Same thing about hwaddr. If you don't provide a MAC one will be provided for you. # Network configuration lxc.net.0.type = veth lxc.net.0.link = WWW lxc.net.0.flags = up # not required lxc.net.0.veth.pair = WWW-rch lxc.net.0.hwaddr = 00:16:3e:00:05:10 hth, :m -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Fora vs. mailing lists
On 3/10/24 09:40, Thomas Cameron wrote: Quick definition: fora is the plural of forum, as in a web based forum to discuss a topic or technology, like https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/. Having said that... I love mailing lists. I have filters set up they silently go to the correct mail folder, I can read through them at my leisure, and I only have to deal with one client - my mail client. My mail client defaults to sane viewing rules, threaded, in the order I prefer. It's the same experience across every mailing list I'm a member of. I love that. It's very accessibility-friendly. I hate using fora. I generally have to open a separate tab for each forum I'm on, and I'm on a LOT. And I have to go out of my way to even remember all the fora I am a member of. For those of us who are members of a bunch, it's kind of a beating - especially if you're an ADHD person, like me. I get that I can (sometimes) set up email notifications when there are responses to my posts or comments, but... if we're already emailing forum members, why the heck don't we just use email lists? I also love that I see interesting problems on mailing lists that I'd never thought of or dealt with, and it's right there, in the list's mail folder. I learn a LOT perusing those messages. It's there, I can easily read through the threads when I get a minute. And I don't have to remember to fire up a new browser tab to parse them. The whole "fora are an archive" argument is kinda nonsensical, since mailing lists are generally archived on the web, as well. In my experience, mailing list archives are easier to search than a forum. I get the sense that moving from email lists to fora was a move to force folks to go to a web site to drive advertising. I kinda hate that. When Red Hat moved from email lists to fora (log in required), I got the sense that it was really to gather information about who was interacting with their web site. Ditto pretty much every other vendor who moved from email lists to web based fora - this isn't a Red Hat or Fedora specific thing. Am I the only one who feels this way? Has the day finally come where I'm just old and set in my ways? Are there others who prefer mailing lists to fora? To be clear, I am not bashing fora, per se - I'm just saying that for me, they're not NEARLY as easy to deal with as email lists. If you like fora, that's awesome. I'm not attacking you. Let's nip that in the bud. I'm not looking for a flame war, just trying to see if other feel the same way. Let's keep it civil. Thank you for posting this. I could not agree more. After Barry's post "Re: ghost town" I visited the forum. It's pretty. Lot of wasted space. When I opened a "thread" there didn't seem to be a way to close it. That lead to lots of scrolling. Lots. When I stretched my always open mail client to the same size as the forum I had more than 50 threads listed. The forum had eight. I can only speculate because I use a desktop vis-à-vis a cellphone so maybe I'm missing something that makes web forums easier and mailing lists more difficult for those users. But all in all, I concur with Thomas' well written opinion, especially his comment regarding list archives. If the mailing list were to atrophy from lack of users it would become useless to me and I would fade away from the Fedora scene. Mike Wright -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: imminent /boot problem.
On 2/22/24 10:21, home user wrote: (f-38; gnome) Good morning, While doing my weekly "dnf upgrade" a little while ago, I got the following pop-up at the top of the screen" -- Low Disk Space on"boot" The volume "boot" has only 20.9 MB disk space remaining. Examine Ignore -- Seeing that a new kernel needs... over 74,000,000 (initrams*) over 14,700,000 (vmlinuz*) over 8,800,000 (System.map*) over 200,000 (config*) = over 97,700,000 total, I suspect that the next time I do weekly patches (next Thursday), it will fail. I'm only keeping 2 old kernels now. I did not do anything to shrink /boot. What has grown so much recently? What do I delete? Here's what's in /boot: - -bash.2[~]: ls -alS /boot total 414860 -rw---. 1 root root 116291735 Jun 1 2023 initramfs-0-rescue-70857e3fb05849139515e66a3fdc6b38.img -rw---. 1 root root 74107910 Feb 8 12:15 initramfs-6.7.3-100.fc38.x86_64.img -rw---. 1 root root 74063151 Feb 22 10:15 initramfs-6.7.5-100.fc38.x86_64.img -rw---. 1 root root 74060383 Feb 15 13:15 initramfs-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64.img -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 14806856 Feb 4 17:00 vmlinuz-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64 -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 14786376 Jan 30 17:00 vmlinuz-6.7.3-100.fc38.x86_64 -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 14786376 Feb 16 17:00 vmlinuz-6.7.5-100.fc38.x86_64 -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 14329896 Jun 1 2023 vmlinuz-0-rescue-70857e3fb05849139515e66a3fdc6b38 -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 8851363 Feb 16 17:00 System.map-6.7.5-100.fc38.x86_64 -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 8850577 Feb 4 17:00 System.map-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64 -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 8849769 Jan 30 17:00 System.map-6.7.3-100.fc38.x86_64 -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 269368 Jan 30 17:00 config-6.7.3-100.fc38.x86_64 -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 269338 Feb 16 17:00 config-6.7.5-100.fc38.x86_64 -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 269327 Feb 4 17:00 config-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64 -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 147744 Jan 6 17:00 memtest86+x64.bin drwx--. 2 root root 12288 Mar 17 2013 lost+found dr-xr-xr-x. 6 root root 5120 Feb 22 10:15 . dr-xr-xr-x. 22 root root 4096 Oct 5 14:40 .. drwx--. 3 root root 1024 Jan 18 2023 efi drwx--. 6 root root 1024 Feb 22 10:55 grub2 drwxr-xr-x. 3 root root 1024 Oct 11 2018 loader -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 161 Nov 1 18:00 .vmlinuz-6.5.10-200.fc38.x86_64.hmac -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 160 Oct 19 18:00 .vmlinuz-6.5.8-200.fc38.x86_64.hmac -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 160 Jan 30 17:00 .vmlinuz-6.7.3-100.fc38.x86_64.hmac -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 160 Feb 4 17:00 .vmlinuz-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64.hmac -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 160 Feb 16 17:00 .vmlinuz-6.7.5-100.fc38.x86_64.hmac lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 45 Feb 8 12:15 symvers-6.7.3-100.fc38.x86_64.xz -> /lib/modules/6.7.3-100.fc38.x86_64/symvers.xz lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 45 Feb 15 13:15 symvers-6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64.xz -> /lib/modules/6.7.4-100.fc38.x86_64/symvers.xz lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 45 Feb 22 10:15 symvers-6.7.5-100.fc38.x86_64.xz -> /lib/modules/6.7.5-100.fc38.x86_64/symvers.xz rm *6.7.3* would open up a lot and you'd still have 2 kernel versions -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: sudo problem on restore from archive
On 12/30/23 20:48, Robert McBroom via users wrote: On 12/30/23 18:18, Mike Wright wrote: On 12/30/23 15:13, Robert McBroom via users wrote: On a system restore from a tar archive sudo won't work. Says /usr/bin/sudo needs to be owned by 0 with the suid bit set. Root owns the file and is 0. Looking at a working system directory list shows -rwsr-xr-x. 1 root root 57456 Aug 16 20:00 su ---s--x--x. 1 root root 202872 Jul 24 20:00 sudo How does that s bit get set? man chmod, paragraph 2 The error message is about an suid bit while the man page talks about setuid, trying it works. Not a clear extension over the old 777. chown 0:0 /usr/bin/sudo root root chmod 755 /usr/bin/sudo rwxr-xr-x chmod u+s /usr/bin/sudo rwsr-xr-x -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: sudo problem on restore from archive
On 12/30/23 15:13, Robert McBroom via users wrote: On a system restore from a tar archive sudo won't work. Says /usr/bin/sudo needs to be owned by 0 with the suid bit set. Root owns the file and is 0. Looking at a working system directory list shows -rwsr-xr-x. 1 root root 57456 Aug 16 20:00 su ---s--x--x. 1 root root 202872 Jul 24 20:00 sudo How does that s bit get set? man chmod, paragraph 2 -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: F38 - ssh now having a password popup
On 12/25/23 18:22, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I did a system upgrade last week and now the following is failing: $rsync -ah --stats -e "ssh -p 223 -4" /home/stuff/Daf/21-Bava_Kama/ inside.htt-consult.com:/media/WD3TB01/Archive/Videos/Daf14/21-Bava_Kama/ Permission denied, please try again. Permission denied, please try again. r...@inside.htt-consult.com: Permission denied (publickey,gssapi-keyex,gssapi-with-mic,password). rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [sender] rsync error: unexplained error (code 255) at io.c(231) [sender=3.2.7] When I just try the ssh inside I get a popup for my password. How do I turn this off so I get the old command prompt for the password? Using -f with the ssh command will prompt for a password. I don't know if rsync will pass that through. The rsync manpage has this suggestion: set environment variable RSYNC_PASSWORD to the password Maybe the combination will let rsync pass the pw to the ssh prompt? Good luck. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Location for python plugin to allow letsencrypt(certbot) automated access to GoDaddy DNS
On 12/21/23 09:04, John W. Himpel wrote: All, I am a complete stranger to python. I am attempting to automate the certificate renewal process for several certificates obtained from Letsencrypt via certbot. My DNS is hosted at GoDaddy.com. I found several projects on github that provide authenticators for GoDaddy that reportedly work with the "certbot renew --manual ..." command. What I don't know is where in the filesystem I should put the .py files so that certbot will find them and I don't have to reinstall everytime there's a python version upgrade. The instructions in the documentation for the add-on use a venv and pip. Are those instructions compatible with fedora packages? https://community.letsencrypt.org has a very active support group and gives rapid responses. That may be the place to look for assistance. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: chromium will not start
On 11/24/23 14:43, Michael Hennebry wrote: I realize 127.0.0.1 is my computer, but I'm not clear on how 127.0.053 and 127.0.0.53#53 are used. All addresses from 127.0.0.0 to 127.255.255.255 are on your machine. They are called loopback addresses (because they loop back to you). Usually the machine grabs the first routable address, 127.0.0.1, and uses that for itself. Sometimes services will pick one of your 268,435,454 available addresses to use as its own. In this case it's probably some sort of DNS. (DNS runs on port #53). Here whatever it is is running on 127.0.0.53 port 53. I use port numbers in my localhost services all the time. 127.53.0.0 authoritative DNS 127.0.53.0 resolver/caching DNS 127.0.0.80 webserver You get the idea. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: FC39 Upgrade failure - Kernel not in grub
On 11/11/23 19:48, Robin Laing wrote: Hello, I did an upgrade today from from FC37 to FC39 and all went well except that the kernel is NOT in grub. All the apps are now FC39 but no option to boot with the FC39 kernel. I tried to reinstall the kernel to see if it would be picked up by grub that that didn't work either. RPM shows that the kernel is installed. How do I progress from here? sudo update-grub ? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Web page doesn't display (Trouble with javascript?)
On 11/6/23 13:27, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: Can anyone display this page: https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEgoogle/SEgoogle2001/SE2024Apr08Tgoogle.html The text claims the page contains a map of the April 2024 eclipse, but no such thing appears on the screen. No go here. Chrome, Firefox, Brave. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB
On 10/14/23 18:18, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/14/2023 02:35 PM, Montague Bestes via users wrote: The fact that the usb inserted prevents you from 'F*number*' (as in F12 or whatever) into your BIOS is the most peculiar thing I have heard. I don't know much about the engineering of these various flash drives and usb drives, but I was surprised on occasion to see that some had a password protection. Is it possible that the computer is seeing something at machine level like a mistakenly set or unset flag that makes the processor think that the stick is where to find the BIOS? It only does this on the laptop. It works fine on the desktop. Ok, because it's fine on the desktop I think it is safe to say that the media is not the problem. Since all you get is a grub prompt and it never moves beyound that wouldn't that indicate the BIOS is pointing to the wrong boot device and finding nothing there? Here is a tedious approach but seems the only way forward since having the device plugged in on boot leaves you unable to get to the BIOS. Unplug the USB device. Get into the BIOS and select the 1st boot device. Plug in the device and reboot... nada? Unplug and choose boot device #2. Rinse and repeat until there are no untried boot devices left. At that point you might want to consider handing your laptop's drive to the vendor and paying to have a recent fedora installed onto it. Good luck. This one has been a real stinker. Please let us know what it took once you're back online. Also, this thread is so long I've lost the beginnings of it. What's the laptop model # ? Maybe we can find BIOS docs for it and help look for something there. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Google Chrome Update Question
On 10/10/23 15:38, Tim Evans wrote: Usually, dnf updates take care of updating Google Chrome. Lately, for the past week or so, however, there's a big pink button in Chrome's status bar labeled "Update," but dnf insists I have the latest version (google-chrome-stable-115.0.5790.110-1.x86_64). If you click this button, it tells you it's unable to update Chrome and asks if you want to re-install. Is this just a new idiot light that means nothing, or is there some sort of conflict with update versions? I'd put it in the idiot light category. It is almost always on for me but when I follow the instructions Settings->About??? there is no Update button which means I don't need to update. Useless and annoying. Last time I got that I downloaded the latest package and installed it over the top and the warning has disappeared, at least for the time being. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: F38 installer claims it cannot find a hard disk
On 10/8/23 11:10, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Sat, 7 Oct 2023, Roger Heflin wrote: On Sat, Oct 7, 2023 at 10:19?AM Michael Hennebry wrote: What is a livecd to hard disk type install? There is usually an install-to-hard-disk icon someplace on the livecd desktop. That is what I did, though I used a DVD. Is there another way? I tried and failed to boot the .iso image from a partition on the hard drive. I believe .iso files require an MBR. Those don't exist on partitions. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: After F35->F38 install, video player, firefox not behaving well
On 10/7/23 11:23, Michael Hennebry wrote: As noted in another thread, I recently installed F38, retaining my /home partition. When I try to play a .avi file, Videos claims "Could not initialise OpenGL support". dnf was not a help. How do I get videos to work? Firefox is also unpleasantly interesting. Firefox was and is set to restore on startup. There were a lot of pages to restore. They all came up with a single blank tab. Do I need to start from scratch? Have you tried Ctrl-Shift-T ? For me that sometimes opens a previous window with all its previous tabs intact; some windows I have to hover over and hit multiple ^Shft-T to restore the tabs in that window. Popups that I've moved off window come back as whole windows. Those I manually restore. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I stop this malware
On 10/6/23 07:58, Michael Hennebry wrote: On Thu, 5 Oct 2023, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/05/2023 09:15 PM, Tim via users wrote: It's a pity there isn't a hotkey for killing just the frontmost/topmost program. ALT+F4 will close the top/front window, if they're obeying control, but I mean instantly killing the topmost window despite what it wants. There's a force quit taskbar app for that (on Mate, at least), click on it, then click on the window you want to kill. But that can be hard to do if something is really hammering the CPU with a heavy load. Just install xkill and put an icon for it on your taskbar. It's DE agnostic and kills rogue windows just fine. That might work if I could get to it, but with the malware doing its thing, no go. I can delete just one tab if I disconnect from the internet. For now, that means disconnecting a cable, as I cannot use the network icon either. Hence the desire to keep malware from going fullscreen. Also, disconnection might not work on a similar attack done with client-side scripting. In that case, I might have to directly kill a process. I can do that from another console, but do not know how to select the process of the rogue tab. What would happen if you disconnected from the network just long enough to change the settings on the browser to NOT open new pages in a tab but instead to do it the old-fashioned way: open new pages in their own window. You might be able to X the malware window or at least identify it with ps so you could manually kill it by PID. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Getting grub working on a LiveUSB
On 10/4/23 13:25, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/04/2023 02:16 PM, Go Canes wrote: - on the laptop, boot off of the USB drive. If it gives you the expected menu, choose the option for verifying the media. If I could do that, I wouldn't be asking about a grub prompt, would I? Working from the grub prompt: https://superuser.com/questions/1237684/how-to-boot-from-grub-shell It's a shot. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Couple of Thunderbird pains
On 10/3/23 09:33, Lester Petrie wrote: On 10/2/2023 8:01 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/2/23 16:32, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/2/23 14:13, Lester Petrie wrote: In my thunderbird, in settings/general the last group of entries is Indexing. The second entry is Message Store Type for new accounts: which is File per folder(mbox) This can be set to File per message (maildir) Oh, nice! I didn't realize how far down that preferences page went. Too bad it requires redoing the account, but it might be worth it. After a bunch of searching, I discovered that you don't have to redo the account. There's a secret setting that lets you migrate the data: mail.store_conversion_enabled If you set that to true, it will let you change the message store type in the server settings. ___ Thanks for finding that! +1 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: LiveUSB doesn't boot
On 10/2/23 13:43, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/02/2023 03:17 AM, Mauricio Tavares wrote: Di you checksum the iso? Also, try using a rocky/ubuntu .iso to see if the problem is in your USB drive or image. I downloaded a new copy and tried to verify it but was unable to because some of the options needed by the commands weren't available in F25 and the instructions were in several places, making them very hard to follow. I think I'm going to try downloading Xubuntu and seeing if that works. If so, I can use that to download, verify and burn a proper Fedora .iso and overwrite Ubuntu with it. Thanx for the suggestion! I don't know what the download page looks like but there is often an associated file named something like md5sum and a long string of hex characters. If you execute md5sum file.iso you should get a match to that string. Of course you'd use whatever sum checker that matches. There are many, such as sha224sum, sha256sum, sha384sum, sha512sum, md5sum, etc. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: can't ping
On 9/27/23 12:12, Doug Herr wrote: On Wed, Sep 27, 2023, at 11:46 AM, Mike Wright wrote: Hi everybody, I have no idea how I got in this mess, but I've lost the ability to use ping as a regular user. sudo still works. What do you get with: sysctl net.ipv4.ping_group_range For me: sysctl net.ipv4.ping_group_range net.ipv4.ping_group_range = 0 2147483647 Thanks everybody who replied. OK, I've been doing a lot of network experiments, staying up wy too late, and I have no recollection of doing this. It was set to: > net.ipv4.ping_group_range = 1 0 Changing as recommended and I'm back in business... ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
can't ping
Hi everybody, I have no idea how I got in this mess, but I've lost the ability to use ping as a regular user. sudo still works. Nothing in lsattr, regular perms are 755 no suid. ping: socktype: SOCK_RAW ping: socket: Operation not permitted ping: => missing cap_net_raw+p capability or setuid? Any help? Especially ideas on how I managed to do this? Thanks ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Problem with mediawriter on old Fedora installation
On 9/14/23 14:30, Joe Zeff wrote: For a number of different reasons, my desktop is still on F25, and my laptop's hard drive has failed. I need to make a bootable USB drive, first to install F38 on my laptop's new drive and second to get my desktop current. Alas, when I try to run mediawriter, it failed with a Segmentation fault twice, at the same spot. I know that there's a way to put the .iso onto the drive with dd, but don't know the proper incantation as I've never had to do it before. If somebody can provide it, I'd be grateful. Hi Joe, I can't answer about mediawriter. dd works well for creating bootable devices. dd if=f38.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=1m (see note below about bs=) There are a lot of other options but that is the minimum and should work. if = input file (your file.iso) of = output file (here you would use the whole unpartitioned device) bs = block size (how large of chunks at a time to transfer: little stuff 4k, big stuff 1m, 4m, 16m. Bigger the chunks faster the copy. Writable media is much better now days). Good luck. It's been a long time since I've done this but I think that's the basic way to do it. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: unwanted login
On 8/29/23 07:44, Beartooth wrote: On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 20:58:47 +, Richard wrote: Date: Monday, August 28, 2023 19:09:43 + From: Beartooth One of my F38 machines has taken to demanding that I login over and over. I want not to have to login at all. (I'm the sole user, and at home.) Fwiw, I'm running xscreensaver under Mate. Where and how do I reconfigure? On the screensaver configuration screen (under the "system/preferences/look and feel/screensaver" pulldown) there's a "lock screen when screensaver active" checkbox. I suspect that if you uncheck that you'll get the action you desire. I always do that; and yes, I've checked it twice in the last couple minutes. What's more, I've tried it with and without a zero in the "number of minutes" box. And, btw, it's been doing this through more than one change of kernel with following reboot. Istr there's an applet somewhere actually called "login" or something to that effect. I *think* it does other things; it might also include a choice of when and whether to log the user out. But I haven't managed to find it. :-( You're looking for the "greeter". ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Creating a bridge
On 8/14/23 18:54, Alex wrote: Hi, I've just installed fedora38 over my previous fedora install but didn't save my network config that included a bridge to allow for local IPs for my virtual machines. Is there a network tool that I can use to create a bridge so I can then use the bridge option with virt-manager to assign IPs to my Win10 virtual machine? I'm used to doing the old-school network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 stuff by hand, but realize that doesn't exist anymore. Perhaps someone has a basic /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections bridge config they could paste here to get me started or the proper nmcli commands I need? I suppose I could probably also use NAT, but I'd rather have my gateway doing the NAT. # ip addr 4: virbr0: mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state DOWN group default qlen 1000 link/ether 52:54:00:c8:a0:df brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 192.168.122.1/24 brd 192.168.122.255 scope global virbr0 valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever Yet another use for "ip". ip link add name virbr0 type bridge ip link set virbr0 up ip addr add 192.168.122.1/24 virbr0 To manually add a port to the bridge: ip link set ethX up ip link set ethX master virbr0 To manually remove a port from the bridge: ip link set ethX nomaster Somewhere using your favorite firewalling tool you'll need to effect something like this: *filter :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] *nat :POSTROUTING ACCEPT [0:0] -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: dnf install stuck
On 8/15/23 20:34, Tim via users wrote: On Tue, 2023-08-15 at 22:02 +0100, Barry wrote: Better these days to replace ifconfig with: ip addr I'm not so sure I agree with that, there's some useful info provided by ifconf that ip addr doesn't supply. For example: RX packets 24927062 bytes 16569920396 (15.4 GiB) RX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 frame 0 TX packets 8396381 bytes 1513217283 (1.4 GiB) TX errors 0 dropped 0 overruns 0 carrier 0 collisions 0 ip -s a 1: lo: mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 RX: bytes packets errors dropped missed mcast 1221 19 0 0 0 0 TX: bytes packets errors dropped carrier collsns 1221 19 0 0 0 0 2: eth0: mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel state UP mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000 link/ether 00:50:56:39:76:2f brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff RX: bytes packets errors dropped missed mcast 3322683844 37489609 0 233097 0 264049 TX: bytes packets errors dropped carrier collsns 167566943 701810 0 0 0 0 altname enp11s0 altname ens192 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
dnf install stuck
Hi all, 2 f38 hosts. 1 dnf install xxx works fine. Very fast. 2) spins forever: dnf.log shows Error during transfer: Curl error (28): Timeout was reached for https://mirrors.fedo... Web searches show this to be common. It also showed the cures to "just wait", reboot, "try it again". Nothing definitive. Any body know how to move on from here? TIA ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: recommended key pair encryption
On 8/14/23 12:16, Todd Zullinger wrote: Mike Wright wrote: Hi all, I recall a discussion that may have said RSA was not being accepted in f38 and a different type was being preferred, possibly ecdsa? It's only old RSA1 keys which use SHA1 which are not accepted by default. RSA keys which use a SHA2 algorithm are perfectly acceptable. Though you may use ECDSA or ED25519 keys instead. Can anybody point me to that? (date or subject would help me search) I think this is the relevant change: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/StrongCryptoSettings3Forewarning1 I generated an ECDSA pair. The public key seems awfully short. They don't need to be as large as an RSA key to have similar strength. Though there are reasonable concerns regarding ECDSA. Refer to the "Concerns" section of the Wikipedia page for a starting point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliptic_Curve_Digital_Signature_Algorithm#Security Or, if you're really into diving in the weeds: https://safecurves.cr.yp.to/ ;) One possible downside to ED25519 is that it's not as widely supported. But unless you depend on some rather old systems, that's not likely a real issue. Excellent. Thanks for the detailed explanation. After reading through your references I settled on ED25591. :m ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
recommended key pair encryption
Hi all, I recall a discussion that may have said RSA was not being accepted in f38 and a different type was being preferred, possibly ecdsa? Can anybody point me to that? (date or subject would help me search) I generated an ECDSA pair. The public key seems awfully short. Thanks ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Firewalld - "forward:" in output?
On 8/7/23 07:29, John Horne wrote: Hello, Would someone tell me to what the 'forward:' line in the 'firewall-cmd --list- all' output refers: services: dhcpv6-client mdns ssh ports: protocols: forward: no masquerade: no forward-ports: I have a server with this set to 'yes', so would like to know what it means. Forwarding is used in multi-homed hosts i.e. hosts with more than one network interface. It allows traffic to be routed between them. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Starting LXDE from xinit -- :0 xterm window
On 8/4/23 10:09, Robert McBroom via users wrote: Been having problems with f38 startup going to a blank screen with no response to the keyboard, mouse. Was using sddm as the display manager. Can get around it by by booting in terminal mode. Starting the graphical mode with xinit -- :0 and lxsession in the resulting xterm window. Get the following messages in the window-- ~]$ lxsession & [1] 4047 ~]$ ** Message: 12:00:19.020: main.vala:113: Session is (null) ** Message: 12:00:19.021: main.vala:114: DE is (null) ** Message: 12:00:19.021: main.vala:118: No session set, fallback to LXDE session ** Message: 12:00:19.021: main.vala:124: No desktop environnement set, fallback to LXDE ** Message: 12:00:21.473: main.vala:145: log directory: /home/rm3/.cache/lxsession/LXDE ** Message: 12:00:21.473: main.vala:146: log path: /home/rm3/.cache/lxsession/LXDE/run.log The system is sthen somewhat usable but occasionally locks up. Is there a command to start a desktop environment before the session? I think you may want startx or a derivative. I use xfce4 and have both "startx" and "startxfce4". says it is used to start an x session. Maybe that does the initialization? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: OT: sed or awk command to add a file extension
On 7/28/23 05:31, olivares33561 via users wrote: Dear fellow Fedora users I have a file with entries \input{file1} \input{file2} ... \input{fileN} How can I add extension \input{file1.eps} \input{file2.eps} . \input{file3.eps} In case I need to add *jpg or *.png extension. I believe awk or sed would do the job. Thanks in advance ... OR ... you could do it the easy way: sed -i 's/}/.eps}/' filename ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: OT: sed or awk command to add a file extension
On 7/28/23 05:31, olivares33561 via users wrote: Dear fellow Fedora users I have a file with entries \input{file1} \input{file2} ... \input{fileN} How can I add extension \input{file1.eps} \input{file2.eps} . \input{file3.eps} In case I need to add *jpg or *.png extension. I believe awk or sed would do the job. Thanks in advance If all of the lines in the file need the same thing inserted into each line at the same position ( e.g. column 12) you could do this: sed -i 's/./&.eps/12' filename That will turn \input{fileN} into \input{fineN.eps} ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: OT: sed or awk command to add a file extension
On 7/28/23 05:31, olivares33561 via users wrote: Dear fellow Fedora users I have a file with entries \input{file1} \input{file2} ... \input{fileN} How can I add extension \input{file1.eps} \input{file2.eps} . \input{file3.eps} In case I need to add *jpg or *.png extension. I believe awk or sed would do the job. Thanks in advance I found this in my bash notes under "bulk file rename". for f in test; do echo "${f%.abc}.xyz"; done ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: console logging during shutdown.
On 7/25/23 18:43, home user wrote: On 7/25/23 2:42 PM, Barry Scott wrote: I uninstall plymouth so that there is no splash screen on many of my systems so that I can see the console messages. Without plymouth systemd will show start up and shutdown messages on the console. I checked; dnf confirms I have plymouth. I tried to research plymouth. I found little information about it; no hint of any configuration or customization file. I tried searching for files (not in user directory trees) containing the string "plymouth"; I was overwhelmed. I tried finding files and directories (not in user directory trees) whose name contained "plymouth"; I was overwhelmed. I gather plymouth is used for much more than logging during boot-up and shutdown. So I'm very nervous about removing plymouth. Is there a way of controlling shutdown (and boot-up) logging via configuration files? I would think that would be much easier and safer. I got rid of it and never noticed any problems. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: mariadb missing install file
On 7/17/23 15:20, Jerry James wrote: On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 4:15 PM Mike Wright wrote: There is supposed to be a file that creates the db's system files, sets an admin and its password, etc. From mariadb-10.5.2 onward it's called "mariadb-install-db". That file is missing in the rpm for 10.5.20 (latest for f38). $ dnf repoquery -f /usr/bin/mariadb-install-db mariadb-server-3:10.5.18-1.fc38.x86_64 mariadb-server-3:10.5.20-1.fc38.x86_64 Thanks Jerry, I'd installed the client, assuming that something named mariadb would be the database. It might make more sense to name it mariadb-client to more clearly differentiate the two packages ;/ At any rate I now have the correct package installed and, who knows, I might actually have to use the client for something. hahaha. :m ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
mariadb missing install file
I've received enough questions about WordPress that I've decided to explore it. I created an F38 virtual and pulled in mariadb, httpd, and wordpress. mariadb doesn't depend on the other two so I decided to start there. There is supposed to be a file that creates the db's system files, sets an admin and its password, etc. From mariadb-10.5.2 onward it's called "mariadb-install-db". That file is missing in the rpm for 10.5.20 (latest for f38). 2 questions: Is this a fedora packaging bug or does it come from elsewhere? Does anybody know if there is an alternate method to initialize the mariadb? Thanks for any help, Mike Wright ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: help downloading
On 7/9/23 18:09, Charlie Murff wrote: On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 8:54 PM Mike Wright wrote: On 7/9/23 17:07, Bill Cunningham wrote: I pinged 8.8.8.8 and the gateway of my router. "Network Unreachable" is the response. I can't find traceroute on my system which is unusual. What is the exact output of the command "ip route list" ? You might want to start with verifying the network adapter is detected. What is the output of the commands "ip link" and "ip addr"? ip r l (for a single homed host) will give the link, its ip, and the address of the next hop in two short lines. Very brief, identifies which device is being used to reach the outside, ie eth or wlan, and the gateway's ip. Often when networking fails it is because the default route has been lost. You find that out, too. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: help downloading
On 7/9/23 17:07, Bill Cunningham wrote: I pinged 8.8.8.8 and the gateway of my router. "Network Unreachable" is the response. I can't find traceroute on my system which is unusual. What is the exact output of the command "ip route list" ? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: xfce4 desktop problem
On 7/5/23 22:04, Robert McBroom via users wrote: How could xfce4 be told to use Openbox? More specifically: http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:XFCE/Openbox ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: xfce4 desktop problem
On 7/5/23 22:04, Robert McBroom via users wrote: How could xfce4 be told to use Openbox? http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Getting_started ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: xfce4 desktop problem
On 7/5/23 11:02, Robert McBroom via users wrote: Running xfce4 desktop on f38 terminal the desktop windows have lost the window bar at the top. Can't reposition open windows. They are fine if I switch to LXDE or kde. What part of xfce needs to be reinstalled? The WindowManager takes care of borders and title bars, etc. The sizes and colors are determined by which theme the WindowManager is using. Xfce4 uses Settings->WindowManager. Once there select the Style tab. That gives you options for Title font and font-size, alignment, and buttons (Minimize, Maximize, Close, etc) and Themes. Try selecting a different theme than the one that is highlighted (the current setting). If that fixes the windows go ahead and click on the originally highlighted Theme and you should be back to where you started. If the WM is so badly hosed that doesn't work you could try restarting the WindowManager, which is probably "xfwm4". killall -HUP xfwm4 or pkill -HUP xfwm4 or kill -HUP $(pidof xfwm4) If none of that works a reboot might get whatever is tangled up straightened out. Finally you could just install xfwm4 again which will bring in anything that may have gone walkies on you. All of this is assuming that the fault lies with the window manager. In fact, if you're feeling adventurous you could even install a different window manager. There is no hard and fast rule tying a specific window manager to a desktop environment, which in your case is xfce4. Hope there is something there to help you out. Mike Wright ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: logging in as root
On 6/20/23 17:46, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Mike Wright said: You want to use "sudo su" and use your personal password. There's no reason to "sudo su" (don't know why this gets recommended). In my case su is easier to type than -s. I don't have to take my fingers off the home row. When I'm shooting for the - I'm never sure which of 0-= I'm going to get. Pinky never quite gets that right, and that's after decades of practice. Don't know what other peoples reasons are. :/ ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: logging in as root
On 6/20/23 17:33, Bill Cunningham wrote: I have uploaded the tar.gz file to my cloud VM and try to use the system and it will not let me have root privledges. I use 'su' and the system wants me to enter a password. IDK what the password is. IS there a way around this? You want to use "sudo su" and use your personal password. For this to work on fedora I believe you have to be a member of the group "wheel". ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: firewalld question
On 6/19/23 11:07, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Amadeus WM said: 2. The command that I tried firewall-cmd --permanent --add-rich-rule="rule family='ipv4' protocol value="tcp" destination address='aa.bb.0.0/16' reject" One quirk of fireall-cmd is that there are two distinct modes - one that operates on the stored configuration (with --permanent) and one that operates on the running config (without --permanent). When you make a change with --permanent, it is stored, and will take effect on future boots, but it is not applied to the current config. You need to run the same command without the --permanent to apply to the current running config. Alternately, you can make all your changes to the running config (no --permanent), and then store them all at once with firewall-cmd --runtime-to-permanent (but if you have something making dynamic changes, like fail2ban for example, that would get stored as well). Or you can make all your changes to the permanent config and then load them to running all at once with firewall-cmd --reload. didn't put anything in iptables, i.e. iptables --list shows no rules. On the other hand, I do have this reject rule in /etc/firewalld/zones/ FedoraWorkstation.xml. iptables only exists as a compat layer on top of nftables, and not everything in nftables will be reflected in the output of iptables. To see the full nftables running config use "nft list ruleset". If you are going to use firewalld, you need to either _only_ use firewalld, or use nft with separate rulesets along side the firewalld managed rulesets. Trying to mix in iptables rules is unlikely to work how you'd like. Hi Chris, All of firewalld's rules are contained in custom chains. iptables is just a frontend to nftables so using iptables rather than nftables to enter rules shouldn't really matter. I tested this: iptables -t filter -A OUTPUT -d 192.168.1.1/32 -j DROP and it was translated to this nft rule: table ip filter { chain OUTPUT { type filter hook output priority filter; policy accept; ip daddr 192.168.1.1 counter packets 0 bytes 0 drop } } The filter:OUTPUT chain is predefined and is unused by firewalld so I can't see how using iptables and its predefined chains to get rules into nftables would make any difference whatsoever. Now, if I were to try mucking around with any of firewalld's custom chains without knowing what I was doing I could definitely envision being bitten by the laws of unintended consequences which, as we all know, have very sharp teeth. Thanks for your post. It got me digging around in all sorts of unfamiliar territory :m Mike Wright ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: firewalld question
On 6/18/23 11:15, Amadeus WM via users wrote: Say I want to drop/reject outgoing connections to a particular destination address (for parental control). How would I do this with firewalld? How about bypassing firewalld and using iptables directly to add a rule to the kernel? iptables -A OUTPUT -d address-to-ignore/xx -j DROP ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: cannot remove disk if it has logical volumes
On 6/3/23 21:02, Mike Wright wrote: On 6/3/23 19:42, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote: I am on f38, but I had this problem before with f36. I attach an external USB disk that has CentOS. I see that beyond the basic device and partitions, three other devices /dev/dm-{0,1,2} show up. Without doing anything else I want to remove the disk safely. I could not do it, see below. The question at the end is: how do I cleanly remove the external USB disk. It is an SSD in a USB3.0 caddy. Clarification: Note: the VG/LVs still exist and can be remounted by referring to them with their physical names: /dev/cl/{root,home} or added to swap with swapon /dev/cl/swap. I need to clarify the dual meaning of "physical" in the above paragraph. When a logical volume is created there is an entry created for it in /dev/mapper of the form VGName--LVName, in effect a pseudo physical device. When you need to refer to the LV using non-lvm tools you have to use the full path: /dev/VG/LV. When using the lvm tools you need only refer to its LVM style name: VG/LV. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: cannot remove disk if it has logical volumes
On 6/3/23 19:42, Eyal Lebedinsky wrote: I am on f38, but I had this problem before with f36. I attach an external USB disk that has CentOS. I see that beyond the basic device and partitions, three other devices /dev/dm-{0,1,2} show up. Without doing anything else I want to remove the disk safely. I could not do it, see below. The question at the end is: how do I cleanly remove the external USB disk. It is an SSD in a USB3.0 caddy. This stays until a reboot. I have some cron jobs that log the state of the machine and they raise errors in the log from looking into these devices. Hi Eyal, Partition /dev/sdi2 is now a pv so you can't work with it as a physical; you must work with it under the VG/LV names. Remove the swap: swapoff /dev/cl/swap Unmount root: umount /dev/cl/root Unmount home: umount /dev/cl/home Deactivate the LVs: vgchange --activate n cl (or vgchange -a n cl). The deactivation step may not be necessary but it won't hurt to make sure. All LVM stuff is cleared out. You must now refer to it by its physical name. Note: the VG/LVs still exist and can be remounted by referring to them with their physical names: /dev/cl/{root,home} or added to swap with swapon /dev/cl/swap. eject /dev/sdi -- you may now safely remove your device. Hope that explains everything clearly. Mike Wright ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: PS1 not in .bash_profile but somewhere else ?
On 6/2/23 04:56, lejeczek via users wrote: Hi guys I have one specific user whose PS1 if not set in .bash_profile, is taken from somewhere else. At the same time globally I set PS1 in /etc/environment - bu that, this one user does not honor. I've tried a few terminal/console apps - no difference. Where else can PS1 be set and/or how to find out here PS1 for a user/account was set? It may be because of how the user is invoking bash. A lot has changed since the times before bash and users had teletypes so there is much history WRT what is sourced on shell invocation. This link explains which files in which order and why: https://www.gnu.org/savannah-checkouts/gnu/bash/manual/bash.html#Bash-Startup-Files Hope that helps, Mike Wright ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: OT question about let's encrypt
On 6/1/23 17:37, Tim via users wrote: On Fri, 2023-06-02 at 00:39 +0200, Peter Boy wrote: (a) The message says .. domain failed DCV (Domain Control Validation) … Even if the domain worked previously, it may be worthwhile to check the DNS entry. So far as I can tell, there's nothing wrong with my DNS records. Of course reverse lookups will fail, it's virtual hosting. Every one of the hosts' client IP will resolve to the host service name. Have you requested a PTR record? I use two different hosting companies and both of them have accommodated me for whichever VMs I have spun up. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: OT question about let's encrypt
On 5/31/23 18:45, Tim via users wrote: Trying to find decent and affordable hosting in my country is an exercise in frustration. Trying to find one that's actually in my country is difficult (for Google to return my site to people as some kind of local service it needs to be at a local IP). Trying to find one that still uses Apache instead of that abomination LightSpeed is hard. Finding one that's affordable... Finding one that's run by competent people... How about this one? Hostinger’s VPS is a bit different from the others on our list, and it’s not just because it has the lowest prices. It’s because it’s up to you to configure your server and set up your software and security. You do get administrator root access, a dedicated IP address, and guaranteed resources. (from a search site) Basic setup same as Kamatera: $3.99 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: OT question about let's encrypt
On 5/31/23 18:57, Mike Wright wrote: On 5/31/23 18:45, Tim via users wrote: On Wed, 2023-05-31 at 20:26 +0200, Peter Boy wrote: Did you really use example.com <http://example.com/>? That would Trying to find decent and affordable hosting in my country is an exercise in frustration. Trying to find one that's actually in my country is difficult (for Google to return my site to people as some kind of local service it needs to be at a local IP). Trying to find one that still uses Apache instead of that abomination LightSpeed is hard. Finding one that's affordable... Finding one that's run by competent people... Check out Kamatera. In the US they're $4 for a basic virtual: 1cpu, 1g ram, 20g disk. I think your price would be $4 AU but not sure on that. No cPanel. ssh and web console. Real people help. This is a no frills outfit based in Israel. Use the package manager of your choice to install whichever webserver you'd like. PTR record on request. Best $4 US / month I've ever spent. Sorry for the false hopes. They don't have an Australian presence. :/ ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: OT question about let's encrypt
On 5/31/23 18:45, Tim via users wrote: On Wed, 2023-05-31 at 20:26 +0200, Peter Boy wrote: Did you really use example.com <http://example.com/>? That would Trying to find decent and affordable hosting in my country is an exercise in frustration. Trying to find one that's actually in my country is difficult (for Google to return my site to people as some kind of local service it needs to be at a local IP). Trying to find one that still uses Apache instead of that abomination LightSpeed is hard. Finding one that's affordable... Finding one that's run by competent people... Check out Kamatera. In the US they're $4 for a basic virtual: 1cpu, 1g ram, 20g disk. I think your price would be $4 AU but not sure on that. No cPanel. ssh and web console. Real people help. This is a no frills outfit based in Israel. Use the package manager of your choice to install whichever webserver you'd like. PTR record on request. Best $4 US / month I've ever spent. Mike Wright ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: /boot problem.
On 5/21/23 20:02, home user wrote: On 5/18/23 4:21 PM, home user wrote: [... snip ...] There are two more /boot subdirectories I want to look at: /boot/grub2/i386-pc/ /boot/grub2/themes/starfield/ I did an "ls -lRt" on /boot/grub2/ and put the output (as a text file) onto the google drive here: "https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YymPG9fvQQwjTtHOG6G0g2lpeuvx3tMW/view?usp=sharing;. I notice that the i386-pc subdirectory has numerous (over 275) files: 2 from Oct. 10, 2019, and all the rest from July 06, 2017. But should not assume that being old means they're no longer needed. My question: Is anything in this directory still needed. I'd like to either delete the whole subdirectory or keep the whole subdirectory. I don't want to do anything here file-by-file. They are actually very small and they are CRITICAL. If you look through your grub config you'll come across the command "insmod", short for "insert module", many, many times. Those modules, the ones in i386-pc, are the ones insmod is referring to. Without them your machine couldn't boot. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: blkid fully broken too chroot has losen sense in addition fstab has received an update not smart and luckily locate works with type the button star
On 5/18/23 05:21, Dorian ROSSE wrote: Hello everybody and the team fedora, blkid fully broken too chroot has losen sense in addition fstab has received an update not smart so it has losen a lot of part and luckily locate works without type the button star finally thanks you in advance to repair whole, Have a nice week, Regards. Portez ce vieux whisky au juge blond qui fume sur son île intérieure, à côté de l'alcôve ovoïde, où les bûches se consument dans l'âtre, ce qui lui permet de penser à la cænogenèse de l'être dont il est question dans la cause ambiguë entendue à Moÿ, dans un capharnaüm qui, pense-t-il, diminue çà et là la qualité de son œuvre. Merci ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: exslt.org domain name expired
On 5/11/23 05:25, Sam Varshavchik wrote: If anyone here knows anyone associated with exslt.org, home of xml and xpath extensions, used in xsltproc and others, kindly let them know that their domain has expired. Hi Sam, Both exslt.org and fourthought.com (which handles exslt.org mailing list) have expired. There is a man of many talents named Uche Ogbuji who is associated with LinkedIn and is part of the exslt management team. You might be able to contact him through there. I have no social media presence or I'd do it. Mike Wright ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: DMARC and SPF and DKIM, oh, my!
On 5/10/23 07:06, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2023-05-10 at 17:22 +0930, Tim via users wrote: The list server should, of course, be taking anti-spam efforts of its own (only allowed authorised members to post through it). Just on that point, policies vary: 1) Block unsubscribed users 2) Allow unsubscribed users 3) Hold unsubscribed users for moderation I think the Fedora list currently has (2). The Evolution list currently has (3), but clearly this will vary according to need and moderator load. Hi Patrick, A recent experience makes me think it's (3). I'd replied to a post using an unsubscribed email address and got notified at that address the the post was awaiting moderation. That was the last I heard and the post never showed up on the list. The content was obviously related to the thread but for whatever reason wasn't passed through. I was happy that was the action (not?) taken because I didn't want that email address out in the wild, i.e. on a public mailing list, so this is a big shoutout and thank you to the moderators. Mike Wright ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: F38 - qr code reader?
On 5/8/23 20:06, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Is there an app that will use my notebook's camera to read a qr code and put the content, maybe into the clipboard? Xfce app would be nice. CoBang is available as a FlatPak and QtQr is available from the RPM Sphere repo. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: More fun with SSL certificates
On 5/2/23 05:31, Peter Boy wrote: Am 02.05.2023 um 12:23 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan : # httpd -S VirtualHost configuration: *:80 bree.org.uk (/etc/httpd/conf.d/bree.conf:1) *:443 is a NameVirtualHost default server bree.org.uk (/etc/httpd/conf.d/bree-le-ssl.conf:2) port 443 namevhost bree.org.uk (/etc/httpd/conf.d/bree-le-ssl.conf:2) port 443 namevhost bree.org.uk (/etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf:56) ServerRoot: "/etc/httpd" Main DocumentRoot: "/var/www/html“ We often encounter issues with a configuration as you have. The problem is: Your bree.org.uk address acts as a default server following apache’s naming convention (it is the first file sorting the file names alphabetically). At the same time a default vname server is configured in the default ssl configuration file (/etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf:56). We often encounter problems in such a situation, when 2 configurations are effective at the same time. You may try either of the following (a) define another named host with comes first in the alphabetical order... Thank you Peter Boy. After only 29 years I finally understand why there is an apache vhost defined by 000-default.conf. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: More space needed on the / filesystem to upgrade from F37 to F38
On 4/30/23 07:23, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, I am trying to use dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=38 to upgrade from F37 to F38. However, I am getting this error: -- - Error Summary - Disk Requirements: At least 4020MB more space needed on the / filesystem. Why does it need more than 4 gigabytes to upgrade from f37 to f38? That's just crazy. I'd look into that before I started trying to stretch partitions. Mike Wright ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
NetworkManager vs systemd-networkd
Hi all, I've never been a fanboi when it came to NetworkManager so when I installed f38 I used systemd-networkd. I found it straight forward and was able to set up my networking very easily. Does anybody know which way forward Fedora is going? That is, NetworkManager with nmcli or systemd-networkd with networkctl? Or are they going to co-exist? Enquiring minds... Thanks, Mike Wright ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Certbot error - SOLVED (?)
On 4/23/23 15:08, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Patrick O'Callaghan said: httpd: could not open error log file /var/www/bree.org.uk/error.log Putting the log under /var/www is very bad practice, as that could be remotely accessible now (and share all kinds of useful information to attackers). Rather than do that, and disable SELinux protections, you should put your logs under the log directory, /var/log. If you don't like the default permissions on /var/log/httpd, you can make another directory, but still under /var/log (and not accessible over the web). Chris and others earlier, I don't understand how his logs are accessible to the web. They are not under the DocumentRoot. error.log is above it and access.log is next to it. Is it somehow possible for a client to reach above / ? If so, let me know how. I like to package my VirtualHosts so everything is in one zippable, portable package. If my stuff is in the wind I'll need to make some changes. path/to/domain/DocRoot path/to/domain/conf path/to/domain/acc (link to /var/log/httpd/domain/access.log) path/to/domain/err (link to /var/log/httpd/domain/error.log) Thanks in advance, Mike ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue